What are your photography pet-peeves?

[photoguy6405]

What are your photography pet-peeves? Whether in your own work or other's work. No names or examples, please. I have several, but two that really get to me...

- Tilting horizons: Especially if water is involved. I feel like the water is going to spill out the side.

- Sunglasses on people on portraits: Like any 'rule', there are times where it can be done for effect and can be done well. Trying to be "cool" doesn't qualify. As a general rule, if I can't see your eyes, I can't see you. Might as well hold a blank piece of cardboard in front of your face, it has the same effect.

[Jamie Holladay]

Extreme angles in motorsports.

[Dermit]

Being approached by people asking who I am and what I am doing, etc. when shooting candids/sports at high schools. I always get approval first, but I get grilled from time to time. And it would not bother if they grilled everyone with a camera and not just the guy with a big white lens.

[JeffreyG]

I bet I can post examples from my own shots that meet everyone's pet peeves.

Here are tilted horizon and shades portrait to start. Same model interestingly enough.....and yet no shades at the beach. Hmmmm.

I may have beat feet cut off pet peever to the punch with tilted horizon. I'm calling that a two-fer.

[Analog6]

The tilting horizons is my #1. I hate it. If used for an effect, in a close up, can be good, but on a general shot it really upsets me. I use the grid feature if I'm in doubt (I know I have a crooked 'eye') so why can't others take the trouble?

[JCH77Yanks]

My top pet peeve is when an image is really noisy... not ISO 1600 out of a Canon dSLR noisy (actually thats nothing), but P&S "low light - auto ISO" noisy. A noisy P&S sensor is what primarily got me interested in getting a Canon dSLR.

[RPCrowe]

However, my dislike of tilted horizons is followed very closely by my dislike of intentionally tilted images - especially wedding shots. I know some folks think that's cool - but, I don't.

I also dislike soft shots and I don't care if the shots are soft from using a lousy lens, from bad focus or from camera movement. Soft is soft and, to me, soft is objectional.... I do however like some diffused shots - diffused and soft are two different animals which often are wearing the same disguise.

[gooble]

I hate when I'm out in public and people walking by suddenly dodge, crouch or apologize 'cause they think they're in my way. I'm well aware that they're there and most of they time they're not even remotely close to gitting in my image.

I don't really hate it. :) People are at least considerate but it's funny.

[Glenn NK]

Pet peeves?

None - for me it's a hobby for enjoyment.

Save the "peevement" for the office.;):lol:

[DragonSpeed]

The noodge that decides to stand up to get a beet RIGHT IN FRONT of you at sporting events just as you press the shutter. :rolleyes:

[TeeTee]

Cheesy generic snapshots.

I'm guilty as everyone else here, but as much quality as there is on this forum there tends to be a lot of snapshots still.

Now where's my flamesuit...

[TristanCardew]

Jeez, as much as I love photography and pro's work, I still have some serious gripes:

- Poor composition and/or bad cropping. Professionals even do it and it sh*ts me!
- Continuous use of fisheye for skateboarding shots (in magazines, especially)
- Excessive sharpening
- The looks from people for having a camera. Like it's a cardinal sin. Leave me alone!

But most of all -

The price of gear!! Argg, it's a killer!!

[Molnies]

I would have to say HDR photographs, they are everywhere these days — and it's very rare to see it being used to benefit the outcome.

[chauncey]

This is easy, people with shallow egos.

[blackcap]

Hmmm, let's see. HDR when it's badly- or over-done. Blurry/OOF shots. Shots that could do with some PP and the photographer boasts that it's SOOC. And I also hate it when people upload 10 near-identical shots, especially when they're all bad!

On Flickr I hate it when people post "Great shot" comments on shots that are clearly just mediocre snapshots. I look at the photo and the comments and think WTF?? But then I remind myself that a lot of people will just post "Great shot" comments for their contacts' pics regardless of quality.

[chauncey]

Are you saying blackcap, that one should not base their skill level on flickr comments.

I am agast.

[rabidcow]

Gear worshiping and pixel peeping.

[Permagrin]

biggest pet peeve?

gear obsessions to the point of intolerance for other's choices (be it camera choices, lens choices or brand choices)...irritates me beyond measure when people knock other people's gear (or focus on gear instead of photography).

The rest I figure are all artistic expressions of the photographer and wholly within their rights to express themselves however they wish. It is art after all.

[Nick Pro]

The fact that your friends treat you differently after they see you have a big camera, and think you are REALLY rich just cause you know how to save your money, and work hard. Same at school. I really dont care what they think, as long as I get the shot.

Disclaimer: I am not rich at all, nor is my family. I know how to work hard and save money with out spending it on frivolous things. Hell, I dropped just over 2 grand of my own $ in photo equipment over the last 6 months. I really like to say that my parents did not pay for 1 cent of my stuff. I am 15.

[EricL]

Hate parents that don't understand why I get a little "short" with their kids that are allowed to run around my gear when trying to shoot. Do they not have any idea how much this stuff costs?? The funny thing, that pet peeve didn't change when I got the stuff insured!!

[Stocky]

People who have camera gear that cost 4 times as much as the XTi kit that I carry around and have not idea how to use it. I always feel like I should hand them my Olympus P&S and take away their $3000 Nikon setup (this usually happens with the guys at work with cameras from the office).

[photoguy6405]

Hmmm, let's see. HDR when it's badly- or over-done. Blurry/OOF shots. Shots that could do with some PP and the photographer boasts that it's SOOC. And I also hate it when people upload 10 near-identical shots, especially when they're all bad!

What's SOOC?

The fact that your friends treat you differently after they see you have a big camera, and think you are REALLY rich just cause you know how to save your money, and work hard. Same at school. I really dont care what they think, as long as I get the shot.

I had to laugh at this one because about a year ago I found out that my 10 yr old nephew had been referring to me as his "rich uncle" because of my camera gear. :lol:

[Cyth0n]

I hate the fact that people don't realise that a camera has a portrait orientation, as well as landscape.

[blackcap]

What's SOOC?

Straight out of camera. I can understand people boasting about this when the shot is really good, but often the ones I see are in need of at least a saturation boost.

[cdifoto]

My biggest pet peeve is people having pet peeves about photography. My 2nd biggest pet peeve is when people use the word "distracting." One person on here said the subject itself was distracting! :lol:

[cdifoto]

Hate parents that don't understand why I get a little "short" with their kids that are allowed to run around my gear when trying to shoot. Do they not have any idea how much this stuff costs?? The funny thing, that pet peeve didn't change when I got the stuff insured!!

That's funny because it's the opposite way for me. Unless they're blatant (like the time my nephew smacked the front of the lens on my P&S as if to push it in and I growled him for it), I'm usually the nonchalant one while they're the ones being concerned and scowling at their kids. I'm of the mindset that kids will be kids and it's just "stuff." Besides, if a little kid can easily break the pro grade lenses and bodies, Canon has some serious re-engineering to do.

[MattMoore]

1. over(post)processed shots (I'm sometimes guilty of this, but I'm getting better :p).
2. magic bullet syndrome (akin to gear worship)
3. stranger's attempts to analyze my gear/process/socioeconomic situation/character based on what they see me with (gear)/doing (climbing on things, laying on the ground, using flash on sunny days)
4. People whose logic is as follows :
- nice camera (aka anything > P&S) = great pictures (no credit to photog)

[Mike R]

There is no reason for a tilted horizon, sure we all do it from time to time but that is why most editing software has a tool to correct it.
I hate when a person, with a DSLR, interrupts me to ask what settings they should use, ask me when I'm not shooting. Then when you try to help them, they come back in 5 minutes and say it's still not working, you look at their camera and it's not set as you told them.

[John E]

However, my dislike of tilted horizons is followed very closely by my dislike of intentionally tilted images - especially wedding shots. I know some folks think that's cool - but, I don't.

I also dislike soft shots and I don't care if the shots are soft from using a lousy lens, from bad focus or from camera movement. Soft is soft and, to me, soft is objectional.... I do however like some diffused shots - diffused and soft are two different animals which often are wearing the same disguise.

Ditto!

[yogestee]

The over use of acronyms like SooC, DoF, IQ etc..Very confusing for newbies..

Peeve # 2 "What camera and lens should I buy to shoot weddings?" :rolleyes: and the people who say you should buy a xyz camera with abc lens

[zacker]

Photography forums!

lol,lol,lol...

[Stefan A]

When cameras are allowed into an event - except my camera.

Stefan

[EcoRick]

My pet peeve is when I have a good opportunity and my camera is at home.

[argyle]

Overused buzzwords. Can't really express in words how much I hate the term "build quality", as if most of those posting about it are experts in design, manufacturing, and engineering.

[AndreaBFS]

People who believe that better gear will make them better photographers, but who rarely do much other than collect gear and sell off the stuff that didn't "work" for them to make money for the next upgrade.

[photoguy6405]

Straight out of camera.

Thanks.

Peeve # 2 "What camera and lens should I buy to shoot weddings?" :rolleyes: and the people who say you should buy a xyz camera with abc lens

There's a difference between seeking other's thoughts and recommendations and asking to be just blindly told what to buy. For people in the latter group, sometimes I think it'd be best to just tell them a make and model and be done with it. They obviously have no confidence in their own ability to research and make a decision based on what they find out.

Overused buzzwords. Can't really express in words how much I hate the term "build quality", as if most of those posting about it are experts in design, manufacturing, and engineering.

I get kind of annoyed by the use of the term "snapshot". The context in which it's quite often used I think it's meant to be denigrating to the other person's work in an elitist kind of way, albeit not necessarily intentionally. Unfortunately, I've caught myself using it in that manner a few times. I am trying to reform myself.

[Ade H]

There is only one thing that I really dislike and that is equipment snobbery.

Particularly when it manifests itself as a complete inability (or refusal, maybe) to imagine that some people might not have a huge amount of spare cash and that there is a good reason why they don't have a bag full of L-series lenses. My only L lens is 8 years old and was 2nd hand.

The same folk are prone to criticise almost any budget lens and over state the importance of their deficiencies, often citing a perpetuated opinion about its performance, without looking at some of the results that they can produce.

Fortunately, I haven't seen any examples of that attitude around here. :D

Oh, and another little bugbear - when I forget to check the foreground for removable debris/litter! It makes image editing and helpful forum members all the more invaluable ;)

[cdifoto]

The same folk are prone to criticise almost any budget lens and over state the importance of their deficiencies, often citing a perpetuated opinion about its performance, without looking at some of the results that they can produce.

It's good to know a piece of equipment's limitations before purchasing. I'm not sure how they can be over-stated though.

[TheSonofDarwin]

General:
When going out for the sake of taking pictures with other individuals and they think my camera is a P&S in terms of use. Exposure, composition, who cares? They just walk away expecting me to hold it out from my face, push the button, and move on AND expect the image to be professional to boot. Needless to say, that happens once per person before they are no longer invited.

When others think a larger lens = more zoom. I no longer have the patience to explain. Some days I shoot with a 78mm extension tubes + 100mm + 50mm and I've been asked how good of a shot of the moon I can get. Well, stick the moon about 1mm from the front of my lens and it'll be perfect! :p

Photos:
None really. Everyone has their own vision. So long as they did it on purpose, with thought, I don't care. However, if they just took the exposure without considering what was being captured, that irritates me.

Editing:
Gross oversharpening and oversaturation to the point of mass blowouts.
I should be one of the last people to criticize because when I edit, I rarely aim for reality. But come on, it needs to at least look good regardless if you are inserting a unicorn climbing the Eiffel tower or whatever.

But as far as certain techniques; levels adjustment is to USM is to B&W from color is to HDR as far as I'm concerned. They all are different from what you were actually able to capture, so I'll be the last one to criticize that.

[Ade H]

It's good to know a piece of equipment's limitations before purchasing.

Yes, it is. But that is very different from blasting certain lenses and describing them as useless because of some quite small shortcoming such as, say, a bit less sharpness than an L lens at twice the price or more, or a bit more distortion than usual at one end of the focal length range. Some folk extend their attitude towards those who purchase budget equipment, and that is really not on. It's not nice to be on the receiving end of that attitude.

[SkipD]

Like several others who have posted in this thread, I very much dislike 99% of the intentionally tilted images I have seen. Most of them seem to be related to motor sports, but I have seen plenty of others. Almost all of the ones I dislike have elements in the image that show very plainly what the horizontal or vertical plane in the real world is.

In my opinion, none of the tilted images that I have seen seem to have better composition than a more conventional (non-tilted) composition of the same subject.

[cdifoto]

Yes, it is. But that is very different from blasting certain lenses and describing them as useless because of some quite small shortcoming such as, say, a bit less sharpness than an L lens at twice the price or more, or a bit more distortion than usual at one end of the focal length range. Some folk extend their attitude towards those who purchase budget equipment, and that is really not on. It's not nice to be on the receiving end of that attitude.

I haven't seen it go that far. Usually just addressing how a third party without USM/HSM type motors could perform compared to a USM/HSM equivalent. Things like that. Then again, I tend to stay out of the lens/body sections most of the time.

[cdifoto]

Like several others who have posted in this thread, I very much dislike 99% of the intentionally tilted images I have seen. Most of them seem to be related to motor sports, but I have seen plenty of others. Almost all of the ones I dislike have elements in the image that show very plainly what the horizontal or vertical plane in the real world is.

In my opinion, none of the tilted images that I have seen seem to have better composition than a more conventional (non-tilted) composition of the same subject.

Sometimes I tilt because shooting everything straight is just boring. The single most commented on image I have in my wedding samples is a tilt. Every bride loves it and makes a point to tell me they love it.

[Ade H]

I don't mind tilting at all as long it's not over-done or over-used. It can work very well for single-seaters and there are some good shots on Wikimedia that make use of it, such as this one. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Jenson_Button_2006_Canada.jpg) Not one of mine, I must add, though I'd be very happy if it was.

But there definitely shouldn't be a horizon involved!

[Ade H]

I haven't seen it go that far. Usually just addressing how a third party without USM/HSM type motors could perform compared to a USM/HSM equivalent. Things like that. Then again, I tend to stay out of the lens/body sections most of the time.

I'm primarily thinking of real-world experiences, but I have seen the same things in some fora, too.

[cdifoto]

I'm primarily thinking of real-world experiences, but I have seen the same things in some fora, too.

Ah see I seldom encounter other photographers in my everyday life. I do know DPreview's forums are like a pit of venomous snakes though so I avoid those.

[photoguy6405]

I don't mind tilting at all as long it's not over-done or over-used. It can work very well for single-seaters and there are some good shots on Wikimedia that make use of it, such as this one. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Jenson_Button_2006_Canada.jpg) Not one of mine, I must add, though I'd be very happy if it was.

But there definitely shouldn't be a horizon involved!

That's really where it gets irksome for me, when horizons are involved.

I've seen some tilting with people and sports that can be quite good, though it is not common.

[PMN]

Two pet peeves for me. Firstly:

As has been mentioned before, people who think having good equipment will automatically guarantee good results; people who dash out and buy whatever the top end 1D at the time happens to be yet don't have the slightest clue how to actually use it. This could tie in with people who seek absolute technical perfection instead of creating something people actually want to look at, that is, people who would rather have a pin sharp and perfectly exposed photo of a housebrick than a stunning but perhaps slightly soft capture of the first minutes of warm, summer morning light shimmering down a country valley...

And secondly:

Canon shooters who are 'anti-Nikon' or Nikon shooters who are 'anti-Canon'. These are the insecure types of people who stand by a brand in the mistaken belief if they shoot with anything else, everything they think they've come to know about photography will suddenly cease to be true. A camera is a camera and if you know how you use one, you'll get good results from anything that's put in your hands, be it a 5D, a D2x or a 2 megapixel camera phone. People who don't grasp that don't necessarily annoy me, I just think it's a little sad. There's nothing wrong with a preference but to be so anti-anyone else is just irrational!

AHEM... Rant over. :)

Paul

[Mike-DT6]

My favourite makes me absolutely cringe:

When a talented, award-winning, highly-regarded and ispirational photographer gets some wally in the comments section of his online gallery, re-cropping and posting an 'improved' version of the photographer's orginal photograph, sometimes accompanied with some words of advice.

Mike

[questionmark]

I hate when people say "Your camera must take/takes good pictures"
argh

[PMN]

I hate when people say "Your camera must take/takes good pictures"
argh

Ahh yeah... I forgot about that one. Isn't ignorance a wonderful thing?!

Paul

[smallpotatoes]

I have an XTi and I hate when people refer to it as a toy. Yes, I know it's an entry level camera, but it's most definitely not made by Fisher-Price. I have small hands and go on long hikes, so the small size and light weight is perfect for me. Maybe it isn't comfortable for you, but that doesn't mean you have to insult it. I find the 40D too big and heavy for me to hold comfortably, but I don't belittle it or the people who own one. I still think it's an awesome camera, it's just not right for me.

Jaci

[TeeTee]

I hate when people say "Your camera must take/takes good pictures"
argh

Take it as a compliment. They're right, it does after all why else would you buy it and use it? :confused:

Try and educate them on the intricacies of photography rather than just getting annoyed. I find it helps both parties in the end.

[photoguy6405]

Ahh yeah... I forgot about that one. Isn't ignorance a wonderful thing?!

That one doesn't bother me as much. I figure they just don't know any better. If I were to sit in at a knitting club, I'd be just as clueless about what they do.

I have an XTi and I hate when people refer to it as a toy. Yes, I know it's an entry level camera, but it's most definitely not made by Fisher-Price. I have small hands and go on long hikes, so the small size and light weight is perfect for me. Maybe it isn't comfortable for you, but that doesn't mean you have to insult it. I find the 40D too big and heavy for me to hold comfortably, but I don't belittle it or the people who own one. I still think it's an awesome camera, it's just not right for me.

You can't belittle it... it's bigger and more 'professional'. :lol:

Ok, just kidding. Seriously, I know what you mean. I started with a Rebel 2000 and would get the same reactions. Physically, I will admit that it did feel better in my hands after I bought the battery grip, and I've never had to buy the grip for any other model I've owned, but that's a physical size thing between me and the camera, not a comment on the quality of the camera itself.

Shoot, going by looks alone, if you want to talk "toy" camera, any Leica will fit the bill.

[garryknight]

I hate when people say "Your camera must take/takes good pictures"
argh

That one's not so bad as when people see the pictures and say, "Wow! You must have a good camera!" Like eating in a top restaurant and saying, "Wow! You must have a good oven!"

Two things I dislike:

1) People who don't post-process their photos when the out-of-camera versions are deliberately flat and soft.
2) People who tell me my photos are over-processed.

Hang on, do I see a pattern here?

[Perry Ge]

Quite a few:

a) Things growing out of peoples' heads (trees, lampposts etc)
b) Unintentional, uncorrected tilted horizontals
c) Gear obsession syndromes
d) The anti-PP crowd
e) Digital sepia
f) Awful tone-mapped images

And many more.

[scottda]

...being asked to take the family/group photo at the reunion/gathering. I hate those pictures. I hate them, I hate them... sorry Mom... I hate them.

[PMN]

That one doesn't bother me as much. I figure they just don't know any better. If I were to sit in at a knitting club, I'd be just as clueless about what they do.

I didn't mean ignorant in a negative way. Ignorance is simply not knowing any different and that's simply how I meant it.

Paul

[Mike-DT6]

Quite a few:

e) Digital sepia

Yes, that's a good one actually. Sepia-toned photographs with subject matter clearly from the wrong era, particularly cars.

Mike

:-D

[CanadianKitKat]

I hate the fact that I'm ALWAYS behind the camera, not in front of it and that my husband won't learn to work the thing so that I can get some good pictures of me riding my horses.

I hate the fact that even when my family wants pictures done, they only want to schedule 5 minutes to do so and think I can get a hundred good shots while they are being wholly uncooperative and antsy.

I also hate it when people attribute it ALL to the camera.

[JCH77Yanks]

I have an XTi and I hate when people refer to it as a toy. Yes, I know it's an entry level camera, but it's most definitely not made by Fisher-Price. I have small hands and go on long hikes, so the small size and light weight is perfect for me. Maybe it isn't comfortable for you, but that doesn't mean you have to insult it.

Jaci

Here, here!

[Desertraptor]

People who know you are trying to photograph something but refuse to move from the shot.
Arrogant/ignorant people

[sjones]

What a cathartic thread…

I generally do not like the use of nicknames for lenses; just typing the word "Wigma" has taken a couple of years from my life. Worse, though, is when a member refers to a lens only by its nickname in the title and text of his original post.

A person who uses JPEG and then boasts that post processing is unnecessary because he "gets it right in the camera." As we all know, setting parameters for saturation, contrast, sharpening, and such involves a form of post processing.

The misguided belief that RAW is only a corrective agent.

As for the whole tilt thing, yeah, that Garry Winogrand and his wonky horizons; what a schmuk.

Yes, that's a good one actually. Sepia-toned photographs with subject matter clearly from the wrong era, particularly cars.

The use of sepia, selenium, gold, and other forms of toning, whether rendered through chemicals or digital manipulation, are not merely used to mimic a particular period, but instead to provide warmth and depth to a given subject. Darkroom toning, which has a history linked to preservation as much as aesthetics, is preferable, but not everyone has the luxury of such route…

[Riff Raff]

- Continuous use of fisheye for skateboarding shots (in magazines, especially)

Was just about to post that one. I hate it with a passion. I'm not quite up to reading the other several pages, so I'll toss in my other two that may or may not have already been mentioned:

- Selective coloring of eyes and/or lips
- Other photographers who move right in front of me while I'm shooting. I'm not even talking about amateur photographers either, it's usually the people with good equipment that think it's OK to just get in the way suddenly. Particularly at sport type events.

[Roach711]

People who think that an expensive camera will somehow give them great pictures.

My brother in law had been complaining about how his P&S camera took lousy pictures. I took some shots with his camera and said I didn't see anything wrong with it. When he saw the pictures he asked me what I did to get such clear shots so I showed him how to squeeze the shutter button instead of stabbing at it. He still hasn't figured out how to use it it in vertical orientation or WHAT that dial on the top is for, but he wants an SLR because they take better pictures and gets bugged when I tell him that it's not just a matter of buying the equipment. You actually have to know how to use it.

[dle42]

I hate when people say "Your camera must take/takes good pictures"
argh

In my case, it's when people see any picture with a blurred background and go, "Wow! What camera did you use?"

Also, something gets at me when people assume someone's "pro" just because they have an expensive camera. And they believe all the pictures are good (even when some aren't) just because they're taken with an expensive camera.

[jgetto]

One that has been bothering me a lot recently is people who use their phones in the dark room. I know that it probably doesn't really do that much to the paper, but it's still annoying.

[RandyMN]

One that has been bothering me a lot recently is people who use their phones in the dark room. I know that it probably doesn't really do that much to the paper, but it's still annoying.

New marketing technique, Red light darkroom safe cell phones. Heck, they have every other kind out there!

[bazzaqpr]

when you come on here and ask for C&C about pp trying to make the the main subject (a 1930's car) look like the picture was taken in the 30's some one says" great pp but you need to change the windows of the house behind cause they didnt have pvc windows in the 30's" geesh somtimes for wht every reason the background cant be changed and we have to make the most of it.....adobe just called me and they are bringing out a"windows and doors thru history" plug-in so that should help

[RandyMN]

when you come on here and ask for C&C about pp trying to make the the main subject (a 1930's car) look like the picture was taken in the 30's some one says" great pp but you need to change the windows of the house behind cause they didnt have pvc windows in the 30's" geesh somtimes for wht every reason the background cant be changed and we have to make the most of it.....adobe just called me and they are bringing out a"windows and doors thru history" plug-in so that should help

Well I tend to agree if you want it to look like the 30's then you should not have solar panels on the roof and lear jets flying overhead...

[bazzaqpr]

i agree there, but one window?? and it was the only chance to photograph the car somtimes you just have to take what your given

[Glenn NK]

Pet peeves?

None - for me it's a hobby for enjoyment.

Save the "peevement" for the office.;):lol:


Well as it turns out, I do have a pet peeve - personal websites/blogs that put forth a premise that they can't possibly prove, but simply rant on about it as though it was the "gospel truth".

A "person" started a thread on another forum entitled "Canon Quality Control Sucks". Never mind that he can't offer any statistics or even suggest that he did a random sampling of a number of owners of various brands to arrive at his conclusions. He's right nontheless, and keeps defending his position on the forum thread.

http://www.kareldonk.com/karel/2008/04/19/canon-quality-control-sucks/

The problem with the internet is that any self-proclaimed expert can post anything that enters his empty head without any verification of facts whatsoever.

[Mike Hoyer]

I don't like the terms "tog", "photog", "snapper" etc.

[shilophoto]

When a realllllllllllyyyyyyyy large woman wants me to PS her to look like Madonna. ,,,,,,,, yep it happened today!! Everyone has a beautiful side to capture but I think Madonna made a deal with the devil. :) Why do people always want what they can't have?

[NZDoug]

I love you all!!!

[fWord]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/s1ckpuppy/Joke.jpg

Imaginary subjects. And rigged photography competitions. Not saying I should have won, but man, aren't there better photographers out there than those who actually won the top places?

[argyle]

The problem with the internet is that any self-proclaimed expert can post anything that enters his empty head without any verification of facts whatsoever.

That's why people shouldn't believe everything they read on the internet...

[ANGUS]

That's why people shouldn't believe everything they read on the internet...

So you saying i shouldent believe that comment either? :lol:

[argyle]

People who believe that better gear will make them better photographers, but who rarely do much other than collect gear and sell off the stuff that didn't "work" for them to make money for the next upgrade.

Related to the ones that KEEP swapping out gear (bodies and lenses) continuously without learning how to actually use them, which is then followed shortly thereafter (after every equipment swap) by seven page threads on "What's wrong with my pictures...is it me or the camera/lens"?

[argyle]

So you saying i shouldent believe that comment either? :lol:

Touche ;)

[neil_r]

I hate it when people whitter on about the things they hate and then take their own values and try and impose them on everyone else. They do not have the grace or humility to even contemplate that anyone who does anything to contradict their "view of life" may have an equally valid point of view to their own.

[tdodd]

These are a few that spring immediately to mind. I expect there are others....

- Excessive Photoshop
- Point and shoot cameras - specifically the megapixel race destroying image quality and making the things unbuyable
- People who start new threads without first searching for existing threads on a subject - e.g. Gorillapod threads
- My failure to comprehend portrait lighting
- People who moan about Vista
- Repeated underexposure by my 580EX with +0 FEC
- People who post OOF shots in the lens archives, and don't even appear to be aware that the shots are cr4p - especially the nifty thread
- Polls whose results will be of limited use to anybody, including the OP
- Continual recommendations for "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson - a book that doesn't even cover histograms
- Continual recommendations for the nifty/thrifty 50, with no regard for what use the recomendee might get from the lens
- Worthless platitudes (or outright lies) in the sharing or critique forums
- The price of some kit - £20+ for a plastic lens hood! £10-£15 for a tiny QR plate etc., £40-£50 for a battery that third parties can produce and sell at retail for £5.
- Sensor dust
- Poor light
- People who think my camera takes really nice pictures
- People who put far too many photos in a single post/thread, asking for critique on them - even worse, people who post external links so you have to go searching for the photos and then come back to comment
- People who post small images, with no exif data, having already cropped and edited them, and then ask how they could have taken a better photo.

[fWord]

I hate it when people whitter on about the things they hate and then take their own values and try and impose them on everyone else. They do not have the grace or humility to even contemplate that anyone who does anything to contradict their "view of life" may have an equally valid point of view to their own.

Wouldn't this statement be somewhat contradictory to itself? ;)

[Boucher]

I pretty much echo what tdodd said.

except add

- the noise levels of the 400D..

but thats to be excpected..

boucher.

[NC_Photo]

Hmm...

I really hate equipment bashing. You're either a Canon user or a Nikon user - no need to be so hateful to people that use the other one. As a Canon shooter working at a Nikon shooting studio....I hear it all the time. I'm so sick of having to hear how inferior my Canon is to their Nikon's.

I also hate when I'm shooting a family session (on the beach no less) and people are complaining about the breeze in their hair, getting sandy, or having to sit in the sand. Seriously folks, you decided on the beach as your location - and you have 17 people. SOMEONE has to sit in the sand....and it ain't gonna be grandma and grampa. ---- Can ya'll tell this is an everyday thing for me? lol

[Don'tcry4mejanhrdina]

My sister said to me: "You can photograph my wedding. I think your camera is good enough that it will take good pictures by itself."

[Jon Smith]

Only pet peeve I have are people on forums whom like to give a criticism only for the sake of criticizing. That is not to say I do not appreciate solid and well thought out constructive criticism though. I hate when folks regurgitate a statement they've lifted from another critique, only for the purpose of providing a reply of some fashion.

[_aravena]

Don't really have any...yet. I'm sure I will get some, but it's hard to say. I may critique something but there's not a defined pet peeve yet for me.

[Mike-DT6]

The use of sepia, selenium, gold, and other forms of toning, whether rendered through chemicals or digital manipulation, are not merely used to mimic a particular period, but instead to provide warmth and depth to a given subject. Darkroom toning, which has a history linked to preservation as much as aesthetics, is preferable, but not everyone has the luxury of such route…

I was referring to sepia-toning, as was Perry. I'm not quite sure why you brought up the other toning processes.

Sepia-toning exists due to certain limitations in the early photographic process. It has been effective in preserving photographs from the early days, which is why we associate sepia tone with old photographs.

Sepia-toning present day photographs containing subjects from today (especially cars) in my opinion looks wrong. That is beyond debate, such is the theme of this thread.

Mike

[neil_r]

Wouldn't this statement be somewhat contradictory to itself? ;)

Oh absolutely, I also do irony :-)

[nicksan]

My pet peeve?

Other photographers...;)

[sjones]

I was referring to sepia-toning, as was Perry. I'm not quite sure why you brought up the other toning processes.
Mike

I was broadly associating "sepia" with any brownish tint in a monochrome photo, so I was admittedly taking liberties there. How this relates to the thread: it is a pet peeve of mine (actually, that's a little strong) when someone (and I am not saying you) assumes that a modern monochrome print with any golden or brownish tint is simply and only trying to achieve a look of antiquity.

[TeeTee]

My pet peeve?

Other photographers...;)

I have to seriously agree on this one.

I find that groups of photographers SOMETIMES adopt a mob mentality and end up all getting the same shot for the most part. Sometimes working in a group is excellent as it can be inspirational or supportive, but generally I actually have friends that are into photogrpahy that I really DISLIKE shooting with as they just seem to copy me. Bugs the hell out of me, the whole point I do photography is individual expression and perception! :confused:

Oh well, gripe over.

[rexspangle]

- When people think they are funny and put their hand in front of your camera when you are taking a picture. (used to annoy me much more in the film days)

- People that have to look off to the side and talk when posing in a group shot

- thinking I got an awesome shot only to get home and realize it wasn't all I was excpecting it to be....

- "how many megapixels is that?"

- the term "Noink"

[Mike Hoyer]

When you are setting up a shot that has no relevance to anyone but you and the people in the shot, and other photographers are running around in the background snapping away... that bugs me.

[Crossfire]

Pet Peeves:


OOF shots (incl my own)
hands/feet cut off
people pulling stupid faces in front of the camera
other photographers when I'm trying to take a group portrait (you just end up with people looking everywhere!)

[BCinMB]

When people think you're a joke because of your age or equipment.

[photoguy6405]

I don't like the terms "tog", "photog", "snapper" etc.

I slip and type "photog" at times, only when typing, but I don't really like it. I feel lazy when I do.

[photoguy6405]

- When people think they are funny and put their hand in front of your camera when you are taking a picture. (used to annoy me much more in the film days)

...and then they act as if they are the only person to ever have thought of it.

[Mike-DT6]

I know original question was more to do with photographs themselves, but seeing as some others have gone slightly off-topic I want to take the opportunity to mention one thing:

'Nifty'

Every time I hear that I think a rule should be made, requiring that one 'Nifty' should be beaten flat with a hammer every time the name is used, then hopefully within a week or so there should be no Niftys left in the world that need referring to.

Mike

:-)

[Jon, The Elder]

What a truly Nifty idea.

[Bukka]

My biggest pet-peeve is when another photographer takes it upon themselves to go up to someone tell them that the gear they're using for something is all wrong. Then go on about how their gear is the correct stuff to use, and that you should purchase what they have. Only to have their shots come out worse than than the person they were chewing out.
One of my friends fell victim to this, and I was quite ticked off upon hearing it.

Another pet-peeve is when people buy expensive equipment, then begin demanding that they be paid for every shot they take. Especially when they show up to something like a car meet with their gear in hand.

[Nick Pro]

When people think you're a joke because of your age or equipment.

Dude im 15. How do you pay for your stuff? Drugs? Selling pics? Parents?

Not trying to be bitchy, but I want to know so I can get a mark III too!

[photoguy6405]

Lense.

[Wilt]

Those who use flash from 50 yards away, where there is no hope in Hell of light reaching that far.

[tdodd]

Lense.
+ 1,000

[Mike-DT6]

A tog using a nifty lense. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[neil_r]

A tog using a nifty lense. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Using a flash to capture Durdle Door

[MikeMcL]

The one that has been bugging me lately is shallow, sensitive, pat-on-the-back critiques. If someone wants a critique, give it to them... don't just spam a "nice shot" for the sake of getting your post count up.

[Mike-DT6]

The one that has been bugging me lately is shallow, sensitive, pat-on-the-back critiques. If someone wants a critique, give it to them... don't just spam a "nice shot" for the sake of getting your post count up.

Nice post.

:lol:

[Nick Pro]

Those who use flash from 50 yards away, where there is no hope in Hell of light reaching that far.

but my 580 can reach 191'! :mrgreen:

[Wilt]

but my 580 can reach 191'! :mrgreen:

I guess everyone thinks that! ;)

[snails]

1. MySpace snapshots. (a face or more crammed into the frame, usually self-taken, blown out by flash, and crooked because it was taken while drunk at a dimly lit party)
2. Photos where someone stopped whatever they were doing to pose for the camera.

[JWright]

Like several others who have posted in this thread, I very much dislike 99% of the intentionally tilted images I have seen. Most of them seem to be related to motor sports, but I have seen plenty of others. Almost all of the ones I dislike have elements in the image that show very plainly what the horizontal or vertical plane in the real world is.

In my opinion, none of the tilted images that I have seen seem to have better composition than a more conventional (non-tilted) composition of the same subject.

Amen!

Related to the ones that KEEP swapping out gear (bodies and lenses) continuously without learning how to actually use them, which is then followed shortly thereafter (after every equipment swap) by seven page threads on "What's wrong with my pictures...is it me or the camera/lens"?

Like the guy in the gear forum that has had five 1DMkIIIs because all the others were off in their focus? Come on, the odds of encountering that many bad cameras in succession are huge.

I slip and type "photog" at times, only when typing, but I don't really like it. I feel lazy when I do.

As long as we're on the topic, I dislike people that use huge amounts of text messaging lingo in their posts, followed by those who can't seem the find the shift and punctuation keys. Another one is those who don't proofread their posts and correct any errors before submitting them... (Don't the schools teach spelling any more?)

As far as photographic peeves are concerned, there are the tilted pictures, cartoony HDR, and my biggest peeve, the blurred waterfall. Come on people, isn't it about time somebody came up with a new technique for shooting waterfalls?

[Wilt]

[quote=JWright;5383087](Don't the schools teach spelling any more?)
quote]

Since you mentioned spelling, another of my pet peeves are the owners who call their cameras "Cannons"...can't copy, let alone spell! :rolleyes:

[asysin2leads]

However, my dislike of tilted horizons is followed very closely by my dislike of intentionally tilted images - especially wedding shots. I know some folks think that's cool - but, I don't.

I agree 100%. I bet 90% of the car shots on here are tilted on purpose. That drives me nuts. I especially hate tilted wedding shots. Don't get me wrong. A LOT of people will have pet peeves about my shots. That's ok.

[argyle]

Another one is those who don't proofread their posts and correct any errors before submitting them... (Don't the schools teach spelling any more?

Apparently not...can't tell how many times I've seen people use "there" instead of "their". Or the ones that say "should of" instead of "should have". Doesn't speak highly of our educational system, does it? Once I come across those types of threads, I try to avoid them just to keep my sanity in check. If someone can't take the time to post a cogent thought or question, I'm not going to invest the time to figure out what it is that's actually being asked.

[argyle]

Another peeve concerns those that are too lazy to search the threads for an answer to a question that's been addressed many, many times over...one example is the variation of the old "What's a good filter"? Why search for yourself when you can get others to do the work for you?

[garryknight]

Another one is those who don't proofread their posts and correct any errors before submitting them...

Some people don't seem to know they can edit their posts. They'll type a paragraph or two then further down they'll correct what they said in the first paragraph. Can't find the cursor-up arrow, eh?

Another peeve of mine is when people critique the photo I didn't take. "Why didn't you bend down a little to take that shot?" "You shouldn't have cropped in so tight." "You should have waited till you could see more of the bird's face." "Why did you cut off the top of his head? I want to see the top of his head." Why, for crying out loud? There's nothing special about it. I took the shot the way I took it, and I deliberately took it that way. If I want critique, I want it on that shot, not the one in your head.

[TheSonofDarwin]

Some people don't seem to know they can edit their posts. They'll type a paragraph or two then further down they'll correct what they said in the first paragraph. Can't find the cursor-up arrow, eh?

Some people just genuinely don't know. I still get messages, or calls from friends who have used the internet their entire lives asking how to do this or that in a forum. While it can seem second nature, or completely obvious to us, it unfortunately isn't to others.

But along those same lines, people who know how to use forums and tags yet still, for who knows what reason, make new posts for each and every reply when there is no one commenting between their new post and their previous post. Oh you know who you people are :mad:

[nicksan]

Pet Peeve #786 ~ xxx

People who rag on other people (people like the guy who went through 5 1DMKIII's) when only numbers, but won't say a word by him/herself.

People who complain about "Lense", and "Cannon". You better start using that spell check and I better not see any mistakes in your post.:p

Elitist Photographers. ("Son, I was shooting even before you were born" (I am 36.))

Other photographers looking at my direction whispering to eachother. Friggin leave me the frig alone!!!

Photographers who think just b/c they are armed with a DSLR and big lens, they can enter anywhere, anytime through anyone.

"The only thing that matters is what's behind the camera".:rolleyes:

You are there taking some time trying to compose the shot. You are looking at your VF. You are ready to press the shutter button. Suddenly you see another photographer with a DSLR enter your frame. (Where's my gun?:lol:)

[Mike-DT6]

People who think Ansel Adams was a photographer. Everyone knows that he was a professional quote writer and just did photography in his spare time.

Mike

:lol:

[August 15 Photography]

1. Togs
2. Photogs
3. Gear lists ( People with huge gear lists make me think of the guy in the T-Top Corvette with the wife beater tank top huge chest hair and a gold chain blasting AC/DC or Def Leppard, or maybe the 5' 2" guy with the lifted truck that needs a step stool to get in..... Compensating??

[photoguy6405]

People who think Ansel Adams was a photographer. Everyone knows that he was a professional quote writer and just did photography in his spare time.

Mike

:lol:

How does that make him any less of a photographer?

[samnz]

"Nice Pic"

[Mike-DT6]

How does that make him any less of a photographer?

I think I am going to retire my little Ansel Adams joke for good! Last time I posted it I got corrected by a forum member informing me that Ansel Adams was actually a photographer and not a professional quote writer! :-D

Mike

[August 15 Photography]

Ansel Adams?? Isn't he the guy that lived in the wild with Grizzly bears up in Alaska? :)

[Mike-DT6]

That's more like it! :lol:

[TristanCardew]

The injustice of watching people who can afford to throw money away on decent cameras do so, when they clearly have neither a love of photography, nor seem to have improved over their last camera, and only have it because it's the latest and greatest.

[JenniferLShort]

Friends who assume that just because we are friends I am going to give them a free/discounted session. I seem to have gotten more birthday party invites since I began doing this on a professional level. I go, but I leave my camera at home. Kills me, but it is the only way to stop the maddness!!!

[nicksan]

People who complain about others owning gear that "they don't deserve" or complain having a lot of gear or a gearlist is "compensating" for something.

You know, the whole "He had a 1DsMKIII and he doesn't even love photography that much" thing...his money, his right to spend it. If he wants to wipe is behind with 100 dollar bills, it's his right.

Stop being jealous and bitter...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ironchef31]

1) People that spends money on gear but can't be bothered to read a book or take a course.
2) Wedding guests that crowd into the isle with phone cams and point and shoots when the bride is coming down the isle.

[randomlinh]

Pet Peeve #786 ~ xxx
"The only thing that matters is what's behind the camera".:rolleyes:

I dunno, I think it's a valid line. If you weren't behind the camera, then the camera wouldn't have anyone to click the shutter for it =P

[nicksan]

I heard that the 5D MKII will address those shortcomings as well...;)
I dunno, I think it's a valid line. If you weren't behind the camera, then the camera wouldn't have anyone to click the shutter for it =P

[ironchef31]

Oh. I got another one.
The opinion that you always spend money on the lens and keep the old camera body. Not saying it's wrong but It's not always the right either.

[Stocky]

hypocritical photographers:
Like the ones who will defend their copyrights to the death when used on myspace, and then won't bat an eye when they see people here using images pulled from TV shows as avatars.

[Double Negative]

I have a bunch, but after further analysis... I think I agree with the poster that said something about 'Save the "peevement" for the office.'

I go out and shoot to get away from peeves and all that... :)

EDIT: It was Glenn NK (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=5358042&postcount=9)

[Wilt]

People who complain about "Lense", and "Cannon". You better start using that spell check and I better not see any mistakes in your post.:p)

Spelling errors can be overlooked, "their" "there" and "they're" or "to" "too" and "two" are understandable, especially when English is not the first language for many. But not being able to copy C-A-N-O-N off the front of their camera into a message is eyebrow raising, Neecksan! ;)

[tonylong]

Hey! I'll start a "pet peeve" trend that's about me and my photography pitfalls:

-I get irritated when I forget to check and adjust exposure settings when the light changes

-I get irritated when I forget to pack an extra card and get reminded when my card fills up and I miss great shots

-I get irritated when I forget to pack an extra battery, and my battery runs out and I miss great shots

-I get irritated when I try to use a long telephoto hand-held and I get wobbly

-I get irritated especially when I'm holding a heavy camera/long lens pointing straight up to catch a bird and flight and I'm so wobbly I can't even find the bird, much less focus on it

-I get irritated because those little birds are so little and move so fast that 95% of the time I end up with a great shot of that rock or that river in the background!

[photoguy6405]

Oh. I got another one.
The opinion that you always spend money on the lens and keep the old camera body. Not saying it's wrong but It's not always the right either.

I think that's a holdover from film. With film it didn't matter what body was used in most situations. As long as it was accurate and didn't leak light it was more the film you chose and not so much the body itself. With digital, there is more of a difference between bodies.

[photoguy6405]

I get irritated at myself when I use a polarizer and forget to turn/set the damn thing!

[August 15 Photography]

People who complain about others owning gear that "they don't deserve" or complain having a lot of gear or a gearlist is "compensating" for something.

You know, the whole "He had a 1DsMKIII and he doesn't even love photography that much" thing...his money, his right to spend it. If he wants to wipe is behind with 100 dollar bills, it's his right.

Stop being jealous and bitter...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Says the guy with the huge gear list, personally I am not jealous of anyone, I just dont understand why you have to display to everyone what you have. I understand that I am in the minority here as most people have a gear list, but I just think its a "look what I got" rant. It serves no purpose.

[Mike-DT6]

I think gear lists do serve a purpose as it can often give people helpful information when looking to give advice to that person's forum question.

From a learning point of view it is interesting to look through people's gear lists to get an idea of what set-ups people have for certain types of photography. I frequently look at the gear lists of photographers whose photographs I like, to get an idea of what equipment they used to help achieve those photographs.

Then there are the wish lists. That's not showing off is it? That's telling people what you haven't got! :lol:

We are sharing a common interest in here, so it will naturally be of interest to other like-minded people what equipment you have. That's just human nature.

Mike

:-)

[photoguy6405]

Says the guy with the huge gear list, personally I am not jealous of anyone, I just dont understand why you have to display to everyone what you have. I understand that I am in the minority here as most people have a gear list, but I just think its a "look what I got" rant. It serves no purpose.

I don't see it necessarily as an ego thing, but rather more of an "occupational curiosity", so to speak. Gearheads wonder what's under the other guy's hood, so photographers wonder what equipment other photographers use.

Sometimes I do wonder, though, if all cameras and lenses looked exactly the same, if the higher end models would sell as well.

[Nick Pro]

Also, you dont have to ask them what camera/lens they used when they post pictures.

It puts you in a "club" too. All the other 1D owners on here gang up and harass the 1DII owners. :p

[August 15 Photography]

Also, you dont have to ask them what camera/lens they used when they post pictures.

It puts you in a "club" too. All the other 1D owners on here gang up and harass the 1DII owners. :p

So if you look at a picture someone posts and then you look at their gear list and they have 6 camera bodies, 14 lenses 25 filters etc etc . you know which combination they used to take that image?

[Andrushka]

So if you look at a picture someone posts and then you look at their gear list and they have 6 camera bodies, 14 lenses 25 filters etc etc . you know which combination they used to take that image?

exactly my thoughts... even better is when they used borrowed gear not in their gear list at all!:D

[nicksan]

Huge gear list? Not sure about that one.
What I am sure about is how a gearlist can be helpful to people who want to buy a lens or body for example and want to make sure they are talking to people who actually used the gear they are looking to buy.

Is that not relevant? I think it is.

The thing is when someone says stuff like "The undeserving person with a 1Ds MKIII...and he doesn't even lov photography" and it's not within a context of light-hearted humor, it only comes off as biterness or jealousy.

"Look what I got"? Yeah, you are totally wrong about that. I am here to help and to be helped. The gearlist keeps things relevent. I would never talk about a piece a gear in detail if I didn't own it or have owned it in the past. The gearlist makes that pretty clear to see. EXTREMELY helpful.


Says the guy with the huge gear list, personally I am not jealous of anyone, I just dont understand why you have to display to everyone what you have. I understand that I am in the minority here as most people have a gear list, but I just think its a "look what I got" rant. It serves no purpose.

[nicksan]

Really not getting this allergic reaction to gearlists. It's pretty silly. I have one, so do many, many others. If you don't I could care less. That's your choice and that's OK.

If you are in a market for a 1DsMKIII, wouldn't other users of this very expensive camera be useful information? How do you find that information? Are you going to start spamming people here and ask?

I have a better solution. Look at the gearlist. Better yet, post in the gear section and you'll get a bunch of replies. It will help you make a more informed decision.

I can't speak for each and every person who has a gear list, however I put mine up because I like to help people out in the gear forum and want them to feel comfortable with what I have to say because they can easily see that I owned that particular piece of gear.

exactly my thoughts... even better is when they used borrowed gear not in their gear list at all!:D

[August 15 Photography]

Really not getting this allergic reaction to gearlists. It's pretty silly. I have one, so do many, many others. If you don't I could care less. That's your choice and that's OK.

If you are in a market for a 1DsMKIII, wouldn't other users of this very expensive camera be useful information? How do you find that information? Are you going to start spamming people here and ask?

I have a better solution. Look at the gearlist. Better yet, post in the gear section and you'll get a bunch of replies. It will help you make a more informed decision.

I can't speak for each and every person who has a gear list, however I put mine up because I like to help people out in the gear forum and want them to feel comfortable with what I have to say because they can easily see that I owned that particular piece of gear.

Decent point. However I would be willing to bet that there are a large percentage of people who falsely inflate their gear list with a lot of stuff they dont actually have. Not saying that you do that, but I dont think that is a really reliable way to determine who to take advice from. Besides its MY pet Peev, doesnt have to be yours. :) One of my others is when people say "I could care less" leaving room for less caring, Dont you mean "You COULDN'T care less? :) :)