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StreamlineGT
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 22:48
Here's one I did all by myself...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/streamlineGT/DPP_2179.jpg

brasher
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 04:32
looks like an undercar set up

Nope, was mounted to the roof.

Hours of Painful Post Processing on this one, over 9 exposures used.

john owen
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 06:36
Nope, was mounted to the roof.

Hours of Painful Post Processing on this one, over 9 exposures used.

Thats impressive if you PP'd the pole out and it was running over the bay area, will you be posting a before shot?

9 images into one, was that to get correct exposure on areas or to help remove the rig?

brasher
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 06:46
The rig wasn't covering the engine bay, rather the roof and a lot of the background, The different exposures are for the car, background, engine, lights, interior and other bits and pieces to get the final image.

I've posted my rig several times in previous post in this thread if you want to see what it looks like.

jejeje
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 07:26
Here's one I did all by myself...

Nice one! I really like it.

john owen
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 07:33
The rig wasn't covering the engine bay, rather the roof and a lot of the background, The different exposures are for the car, background, engine, lights, interior and other bits and pieces to get the final image.

I've posted my rig several times in previous post in this thread if you want to see what it looks like.


No, i was interested in the PP work not the rig

wochi
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 12:32
The rig wasn't covering the engine bay, rather the roof and a lot of the background, The different exposures are for the car, background, engine, lights, interior and other bits and pieces to get the final image.

I've posted my rig several times in previous post in this thread if you want to see what it looks like.

can you post some tips of how to merge all those photos into one?
thanks in advance

Yellowmsp
19th of March 2009 (Thu), 13:36
if anyone is ordering those 12in 1.75in OD pieces from speedymetals.com let me know before. i ordered 3 of them to connect the poles but i dont have time to do a rig now and i think im gonna go a different route so i'm gonna need to get rid of those 3 pieces. ill let them go cheap cuz i dont need them so just send me a pm if interested

DonJuanMair
19th of March 2009 (Thu), 14:14
if anyone is ordering those 12in 1.75in OD pieces from speedymetals.com let me know before. i ordered 3 of them to connect the poles but i dont have time to do a rig now and i think im gonna go a different route so i'm gonna need to get rid of those 3 pieces. ill let them go cheap cuz i dont need them so just send me a pm if interested

bit off topic here Scott but i like your car portfolio, some nice pics there

Yellowmsp
19th of March 2009 (Thu), 14:20
yea just a little ot but figured it would only apply to people who visit this thread and are thinking of going that route with the alluminum pipes since the shots that have been posted receently keep getting better and better in here.

thanks too

edit: i may even have some pics to contribute in here after this weekend

DonJuanMair
19th of March 2009 (Thu), 15:49
oh no i didnt mean u were off topic i meant i was.

Yellowmsp
19th of March 2009 (Thu), 18:41
haha oh. thanks again then

quickster
20th of March 2009 (Fri), 04:32
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3370107634_0558314d5a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3370100802_4ff4763944_o.jpg

so happy with these ones. thankfully they came out good. (IMHO)

jejeje
20th of March 2009 (Fri), 06:24
so happy with these ones. thankfully they came out good. (IMHO)

Absolutely! They are awesome. Nice work and sweet car.

rmodys
20th of March 2009 (Fri), 14:55
so happy with these ones. thankfully they came out good. (IMHO) Looks great! If that's not an under-car rig, how did you mount it?

quickster
20th of March 2009 (Fri), 15:01
Looks great! If that's not an under-car rig, how did you mount it?

trunk and hood.

mcsime
20th of March 2009 (Fri), 15:26
My rigshot on Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2l

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3370448476_1e245fc69b_o.jpg

Photoshoot : http://mc.sime.free.fr/porsche9113l2.htm

Yellowmsp
21st of March 2009 (Sat), 12:00
so i ended up deciding to make one quick, heres a quick practice shot from the driveway

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/60/img1558web.jpg

adsayer
21st of March 2009 (Sat), 17:48
Hello guys, I've been viewing the thread since just before christmas, for some reason the manfrotto suctions cups are a horror to source in the UK - I waited... 7 weeks for mine to come through from Italy. But anyway the wait was worth it and I can't wait to get some practice in on the rig :D
Just wanted to say thanks for the advice - mucho appreciated.
Ads

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/CRW_1335e.jpg

edit: SORRY ABOUT THE SIZE!!!!

Yellowmsp
22nd of March 2009 (Sun), 21:40
another practice one
http://www.scottlam.com/img/v6/p121446805-4.jpg

100fotos.net
22nd of March 2009 (Sun), 22:01
Hello all
I've been viewing the forum since last month, for some reason "the real rig" suctions cups are a terrible to find in the Vietnam. But anyway I did it my self with glass-lifting, I will post behind the picture later, now just finished picture. I would like to say thanks to all of you for the advice on DIY.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3376101130_00a5e0bd32_o.jpg

RSebaF
23rd of March 2009 (Mon), 07:11
looking good 100fotos.net!

and welcome to POTN!

rmodys
23rd of March 2009 (Mon), 15:37
another practice one
http://www.scottlam.com/img/v6/p121446805-4.jpg
Holy crap, how are you getting these so sharp? In other words, what size tubing did you use?

Yellowmsp
23rd of March 2009 (Mon), 16:28
haha thanks, they are with 2" tubing

DonNguyen
23rd of March 2009 (Mon), 18:52
geez...30 seconds too....well done

DonNguyen
23rd of March 2009 (Mon), 18:56
Hello all
I've been viewing the forum since last month, for some reason "the real rig" suctions cups are a terrible to find in the Vietnam. But anyway I did it my self with glass-lifting, I will post behind the picture later, now just finished picture. I would like to say thanks to all of you for the advice on DIY.

great shot...

next time i have family going out to Vietnam, I will let you know and we may be able to work something out to get some to you

Kryptix
24th of March 2009 (Tue), 02:14
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Muska
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 09:31
This is my first post on this forum, i find this site to be great for all sorts of information/discussions and i'm not actually a Canon user (sorry) This has to be the best sourse of information on the net regarding automotive rigs that i've seen.
From what i've learned in this thread here is some of the equipment i've gained so far:
Equipment:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3594/3384273893_a582c5ea0d.jpg
Avenger f1000 suction cups. Ordered from Adorama New York. Arrived in less than 4days from point of ordering, very impressed. Did get stung with import duty and have since found somewhere that sells them in the UK, although the day i ordered i was damned if i could!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3433/3385090688_8ed9dec4dc.jpg
Manfrotto 035 super clamps.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3384280161_87f6e3efa9.jpg
Manfrotto Variable friction arm with quick release plate, much like a magic arm really.

Like anything they can be made cheaper but i've tried to take in all the info i've got from when i started looking with a hope to 'do it once, do it right'. It's going to have cost me alot (over Ģ300) but it's not just a toy to me.

If i get chance today i'll be picking up the pole's but i need to take sections of them to a lathe before i can mount it all up. I'm going with 4x 4ft sections 2" 10swg, and 3x 1ft sections 1.75" 10swg. Exactly as someone else on here has done.

thanks for looking,
Matt.

adsayer
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 10:07
Hello matt, that's my setup bar the friction arm... how much was it and where did you purchase it from?

Many thanks

adssss

Muska
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 10:34
Ads, it was bought from warehouse express. Personally i couldn't find it cheaper, only the same price. About Ģ100 with postage.

DonNguyen
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 11:24
muska, better to do it right the first time, otherwise, you simply end up spending more money on it.

and i've spend just about the same amount of money on my rig as well

john owen
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 15:39
If i get chance today i'll be picking up the pole's but i need to take sections of them to a lathe before i can mount it all up. I'm going with 4x 4ft sections 2" 10swg, and 3x 1ft sections 1.75" 10swg. Exactly as someone else on here has done.

thanks for looking,
Matt.


Hi Matt, where you getting your poles from?

Are they special order or having them made?

Muska
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 18:00
I haven't had them custom made, there is a place in an industrial estate near me called Metal Supermarket (bayton road bedworth if anyone wants to try mail order) they advised taking the 1ft sections to a lathe to get it all to slot together. For all sections I'm looking at Ģ87.
I've looked to replicate someone elses design that is a few pages back.

Hope that helps.

100fotos.net
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 23:02
Below some more rig-shots, still practicing.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3588/3383813611_958c08ffd0_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3384626780_e0afd7026c_o.jpg

And behind the pictures here

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3386700946_fffb29057f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3650/3385889261_6b4dbd2898_o.jpg

100fotos.net
25th of March 2009 (Wed), 23:07
great shot...

next time i have family going out to Vietnam, I will let you know and we may be able to work something out to get some to you
Welcomes man, just drop me a call once u are here in VN

Kryptix
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 01:19
Where are you all getting your suction pads from?

I'm in the UK so any advice?

The only bit I'm stuck on... Is attaching the metal pole to the suction pads, whilst being able to adjust it!

Any advice?

Kryptix
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 01:23
Oh and what's the tripod called that everyone seems to be attaching to their bar?

GVal
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 01:49
segmented poles in order to adjust the length.. and I assume most are using the Bogen Manfrotto magic arm.

Muska
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 04:01
Kryptix,
In the UK the avengers can be bought from:

http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_42_698&products_id=9440

I bought from adorama, not much in it with postage added and mine came from New york in 4days from ordering.
The suction cups come with a baby swivel pin for adjustment.
If you go back one page i've posted a picture of teh Manfrotto magic arm, i bought mine from warehouse express in the UK.

couleur
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 05:19
http://fc71.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/085/b/0/My_Space_by_couleur.jpg

wochi
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 05:52
i was going to post my first rig shot, but after couleurīs photo i got shy :lol:

but ok...i will post it anyway :oops:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1319/fredooooedit1.png

Muska
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 06:35
Coleur do you use off camera lighting in your photos? Everything you've posted is simply superb.

wochi
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 07:55
i understand if you donīt want to show us your photoshop/photo skills but can you show us the original photo just to see the before/after couleur?

Dom87SS
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 11:34
It's not 100% done yet so I haven't gone out and shot with it yet but I put it on my car this afternoon to see what it'll look like (only did this position, none of the rear yet). The rig is only like 13' long at this point but I'll write this model off as a starter:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/rmodys/rig001.jpg

Hopefully I'll be shooting with it for the first time this weekend! And considering how big the car is, I'm pretty satisfied with how much it gets in the frame, haha.


more pics when you get them please. nice monte btw...86?

Muska
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 12:06
Here is my rig, just testing with one 4ft section. I need to put the connecting sections on a lathe so it will all fit together.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3387064371_6b0271710a.jpg

I'm really impressed with how solid it all is.

Matt.

rmodys
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 20:35
more pics when you get them please. nice monte btw...86? Will do and yeah it's an '86.

If I get any rig shots this weekend it'll be of a Z4 I've been lent though.

Kryptix
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 21:49
Here is my rig, just testing with one 4ft section. I need to put the connecting sections on a lathe so it will all fit together.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3387064371_6b0271710a.jpg

I'm really impressed with how solid it all is.

Matt.
Matt, you're in the UK... Where did you get all the parts, including the arm, suction pads, and even the pole?

I'm really stuck!

dougboy
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 22:37
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Dougboy/Automotive/DSC_1884.jpg?t=1238121408

Too bad i always have to get it at such a low angle because my shots are dictated by the slope of the trunk/hood. And i need a wider angle lense

wochi
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 22:54
one more

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9030/s2keditada1.png

JustinL
26th of March 2009 (Thu), 23:21
Too bad i always have to get it at such a low angle because my shots are dictated by the slope of the trunk/hood. And i need a wider angle lense

I think your lens is fine... work on more interesting backgrounds and you'll be golden.

wochi
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 12:33
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2728/egaseditada1.png

TariQ.E
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 13:27
http://fc25.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/082/c/2/ZR1_Flying_Slowly_by_tariqphoto.jpg

Todd Good
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 16:16
http://fc25.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/082/c/2/ZR1_Flying_Slowly_by_tariqphoto.jpg

Great rig shot :-)

Bumgardnern
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 16:38
Great set ups guys.

I was wondering if anyone has advice about mounting a camera to a dirt bike?

PJH
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 17:19
that's going to be hard. Suction cups probably won't work since the plastic is curved and full of decals. So air will go out . If you can, try fastening your tube to the chassis of the bike itself. also consider where you are going to drive. Vibration offroad is a real issue for shots like these.

anyways: can someone post some picture's of how they connect their suctioncup to their pole? Or explain in words what i should look for when buying equipment (so that it all fits).

excuse me for my bad english.

Bumgardnern
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 17:31
The best way to connect the poles to the suction cups is via superclamps.

DonNguyen
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 19:38
whats the best way to remove these suctions? the instructions tell you how, but i've found that its a pretty big pain to do it that way

hphoto
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 19:45
whats the best way to remove these suctions? the instructions tell you how, but i've found that its a pretty big pain to do it that way
when I placing the suction cup on the car, I spray water on the suction cup so it would come off easy and have a better suction to the panel. Thats my 2 cent.....

itzjere
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 20:02
whats the best way to remove these suctions? the instructions tell you how, but i've found that its a pretty big pain to do it that way

I find pulling on the tab pretty easy. Is that what you've been doing?

DonNguyen
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 20:34
yeah, i'm pulling that tab...the problem is, they're so small, i have a hard time getting a good grip on em...

also, Jeremy, did you have to sand down the 1.75" pipe a little?

DonJuanMair
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 21:12
as soon as i pull on that tab it usually comes off straight away. you just have to make sure your on the opposite side of the tab

jeremycliff
27th of March 2009 (Fri), 22:33
Couple new ones I took a couple nights ago.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3388941700_e849838bb4_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3388916798_194817c112_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/3387360943_57f58dbbbd_b.jpg

wochi
28th of March 2009 (Sat), 22:25
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1756/s2keditpsd.png

DonNguyen
28th of March 2009 (Sat), 22:45
well done wochi

itzjere
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 03:59
yeah, i'm pulling that tab...the problem is, they're so small, i have a hard time getting a good grip on em...

also, Jeremy, did you have to sand down the 1.75" pipe a little?

Yah, it can be hard to get a good grip on them at times.. Overall, the tabs work well for me.

I sanded the inner coupler pipe a little bit.. but just to make it smooth.. some of them were notch-er than I would like.

PJH
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 07:38
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1756/s2keditpsd.png

wow that's great, what's your setup?

wochi
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 08:05
thanks for your comments.:cool:

This was done with a rig like the one automotiverigs.com sells.

400D+Sigma 10-20 :)

TariQ.E
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 08:13
wochi

nice angle

love to see the same angle in better location

wochi
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 08:18
you will :p

for the moment and for a noob like me thatīs the only location i have to take this photos. No traffic, no police (i must have a front licence plate here in Portugal :lol:) and the road is leaning so no pushing the car also :lol::lol:

PJH
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 09:05
i think the location is not too bad. Sure beats all the "going in circles blur" kind of pics we get here. So did you build your rig yourself? What kind of a distance are we talking here? how much did it cost, what parts are you using? Can we have some picture's of your rig? Detail shots etc. Can we see an original image, maybe even in high res to be able to see the vibrations (if any)?

also what kind of exposure did you use? I'm guessing F11-ish, seeing the star shape of the lights. And about 5 seconds of exposure in total?

edit: also a question for everyone. Who here make's pictures like these with the camera actually above the roofline of the car, and using suction cups? could someone explain (preferred with pictures) how they put there pole in an angle like that? i'm guessing you'd have to make an L shape or be able to add a joint in your pipe, so that it can be raised. But isn't that putting alot of stress on the suction cup (and body panel) on the far end?

wochi
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 09:21
i think the location is not too bad. Sure beats all the "going in circles blur" kind of pics we get here. So did you build your rig yourself? What kind of a distance are we talking here? how much did it cost, what parts are you using? Can we have some picture's of your rig? Detail shots etc. Can we see an original image, maybe even in high res to be able to see the vibrations (if any)?

also what kind of exposure did you use? I'm guessing F11-ish, seeing the star shape of the lights. And about 5 seconds of exposure in total?

letīs see if a can anwser all that in english :oops:

- a friend of mine that works with this materials built it, so i canīt answer to techical questions or costs of the rig
- the rig is very similar to automotiverigs.com only the pole seems larger in mine. I have 3 sections of 1,5meters( convert to inches :) )
- there was little vibration but there is
- F10 13sec. exposure

original image:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5255/s2koriginalv.png

PJH
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 10:32
so you have 4,5 meters of working distance. That's about 14.5 feet. That's rather long considering everyone here is around 12 feet. The picture looks great, can't really spot alot of vibration, that's very good considering it's a 13second exposure. I'm really impressed. I'm going to start working on my rig next week, hope I can get it as good as yours.

Are you using a Manfrotto magic arm to connect the camera to the pole? Or is this also custom made by your friend?

wochi
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 10:43
itīs not manfrotto. itīs a simple part that i got from a camera holder that i already had.

wochi
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 11:12
another from the same set

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9309/s2kedit2.png

aridan
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 13:06
another from the same set

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9309/s2kedit2.png

you got some nice distance on that sucker!

DonJuanMair
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 15:14
yeah those shots are really nice, its nice to see some distance from the car

john owen
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 18:07
Couple of friends pickup from today

Second one has an SB800 poped across the front to add some fill

john owen
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 18:11
Second

aridan
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 18:34
Second

Excellent use of lighting (both natural and artificial... ) :)

DonJuanMair
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 19:10
how did you incorporate a flash ina rig shot????

Thameth
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 21:31
how did you incorporate a flash ina rig shot????

Easiest way would be the set up a flash and roll past it, though you would want to avoid shots that include the wheels because it will usually freeze the spokes.

Though I don't see flash used in that shot....

Thameth
29th of March 2009 (Sun), 21:32
Couple of friends pickup from today

Second one has an SB800 poped across the front to add some fill

What I don't understand is how you guys get these offroad shots sharp, we have a hard enough time keeping the rig still on smooth pavement....

quickster
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 01:05
collaboration between member itzjere & I.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3655/3381000183_39b20c1228_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3381827364_275ec5fa84_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/3381008909_93e2fecb35_o.jpg

hphoto
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 10:54
Nice photos and car but im not feeling that background. Too much things going on.

aridan
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 21:02
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/3053950286_0df05f3eb2_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3048051820_8f9e35d127_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/3044463587_74dbf0d36f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/3044463895_7c7859b97a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/3042846158_c507c9c741_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3231/3039362963_4c0485006f_o.jpg

StreamlineGT
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 21:06
Nice work Dan!!

aridan
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 21:16
Nice work Dan!!

Thanks :)

P.S.

How did you know my name? Do we know each other?

StreamlineGT
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 21:43
well, your SN is ariDAN. Took a guess, if I was wrong, I could play it off. Nice Subie shots. Any of those fellas CTSubie members?

100fotos.net
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 22:01
Amazing shots aridan, could you post some original shots? Cause I'm from Vietnam, It's not easy to study car photography there. Only place I learned about rigshots is here POTN. Thanks in advances.

DonJuanMair
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 23:30
lol great shots though Dan

aridan
31st of March 2009 (Tue), 07:18
well, your SN is ariDAN. Took a guess, if I was wrong, I could play it off. Nice Subie shots. Any of those fellas CTSubie members?

LOL... pretty sharp! :D

Not sure about the Subie owner... he was a friend of a friend and stopped by to have the car shot and then took off. Didn't really have a chance to talk to him. :confused:

aridan
31st of March 2009 (Tue), 07:19
Amazing shots aridan, could you post some original shots? Cause I'm from Vietnam, It's not easy to study car photography there. Only place I learned about rigshots is here POTN. Thanks in advances.

Sure thing. I'll see if I can dig up the untouched originals. :)

saturnin
31st of March 2009 (Tue), 10:59
having a lighter camera is definalty a plus when doing this type of photography..tring to put a 1ds mk2 with a lens on a rig is soooooooo heavy..lol

nice shots everyone

quickster
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 03:18
still waiting for my magic arm to come in.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3403198517_323fce8e58.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3404009310_8c56340aed.jpg?v=0

aridan
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 08:27
still waiting for my magic arm to come in.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3403198517_323fce8e58.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3404009310_8c56340aed.jpg?v=0

Not bad, except a driver behind the wheel would have been nice :D

Kryptix
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 09:46
Anyone want to sell their suction pads, clamps or arm?

I'm interested in buying the lot...

Kryptix
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 10:02
Oh and does anyone know where to buy the suction pads in the UK?

I can only find them on Adorama and they want $190 delivered for two pads!

Muska
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 11:21
Here: http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_42_698&products_id=9440
Did you not get my PM...?
I sent you one saying exactly where to buy everything.

adsayer
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 12:57
another vote for Karlu for UK buyers.

quickster
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 14:26
Not bad, except a driver behind the wheel would have been nice :D

hes in there!

aridan
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 14:34
hes in there!

tell him to waive next time! :D

Iank89
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 14:39
Hey guys. This is my first post on this forum, and I'll be honest im not a canon shooter, regardless this thread brought me here and I've studied it extensively. There is sooooo much info for anyone looking to build a rig. The set up I went with was 2 avenger 1000 cups, bogen super clamps and a 10' 2" in diameter ETM pole, its very sturdy. Last night I got a chance to do a few test shots on a friends Evo. I must say cropping that rig out is MUCH more labor intensive that I had imagined, either way I look forward to getting more shots in the future and I owe it all to the info here, thanks again.

-Ian


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3403653393_29f9e12311_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3403837269_ec09e1fc48_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3404507648_758f631c16_b.jpg

PJH
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 16:20
really like the last one.

Kryptix
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 17:00
Here: http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_42_698&products_id=9440
Did you not get my PM...?
I sent you one saying exactly where to buy everything.
Cheers mate, but it's practically cheaper to buy them from the US with $70 shipping. :mad:

Muska
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 17:16
thats what i found, just try and get away without the import charges as thats another Ģ30... i got stung for them.

Kryptix
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 18:53
thats what i found, just try and get away without the import charges as thats another Ģ30... i got stung for them.
How much adjustability do your ones offer? I'm thinking of getting the Manfrotto Magic Arm but attaching the pole to two glass carries. Do you think it'd be OK? I can't see how the adjustable ones can be 'adjustable' when there's two of them in a line!

Care to show any pics?

adsayer
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 20:42
Hello all, I had another chance to grab some shots... mixed results really. I'm considering some modifications to the rig - mainly a suspension bridge style (using a steel wire to brace the ends of the rig) which I'm hoping to increase the rigidity.
Here's the set, if anyone has any tips or comments then I'm all ears and ready to hear them :) I can put up the shot including the rig as well if wanted

thanks!

Ads

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/CRW_1568copy-1.jpg?t=1238719083

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/CRW_1530-1.jpg?t=1238719318

If I can stiffen the rig at these distances then I'll be a happy chappy
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/CRW_1514copy-1.jpg

quickster
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 02:49
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3408129849_2748f9d78f_o.jpg

RSebaF
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 12:07
1.
http://sfurstenborg.1g.fi/kuvat/Silvia%20s15/IMG_0162.jpg/small

2.
http://sfurstenborg.1g.fi/kuvat/Silvia%20s15/IMG_0163.jpg/small

3.
http://sfurstenborg.1g.fi/kuvat/Silvia%20s15/IMG_0165.jpg/small

I'm working on a steadier rig right now...50mm OD. ~4,5m long.

RoryOD
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 14:06
Hi Ads, were you able to get all the parts in the UK? any chance of a shot with the rig.
Lovely stuff BTW.

adsayer
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 15:01
Hi Ads, were you able to get all the parts in the UK? any chance of a shot with the rig.
Lovely stuff BTW.

Hi Rory, Yep everything was sourced from UK vendors dude.
Karlu.co.uk for much of the kit

2x Pump Cups http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_42_698&products_id=9440
3x Super Clamps http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?products_id=3934
4x 5ft aluminium section from this seller http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/dongo1950
realistically because of the flex, you'll only need 2 of the sections but 3 sections can be done as well, but you've got to be MEGA steady though i.e. don't run the engine at all (see how blurred the last pic is).
you'll need a ballhead, I got one from Jessops for Ģ10 :lol:
and you'll need a spigot which looks like the top of the suction cup. That connects the ball head to the superclamp.
And that's everything to get you going i think!

Here's the originals...

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/CRW_1530-2.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/CRW_1514.jpg

I'm going to have a play again tonight so I'll get some separate shots of the camera, rig and car.
hope that helps!

ads

RoryOD
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 18:11
Cheers for that. the clio head on is class.
Have been meaning to build one but most of the vendors were in USA.
Keep up the good work.

Kryptix
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 10:50
Guys, can you please tell me where I can buy this head?

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=11009

I'm about to buy a Manfrotto Magic Arm and a Manfrotto Super Clamp but it doesn't come with the head. Can you tell me what head it uses? It's very hard to picture how it connects without ever using one before!

...or do you think I should just go for the Magic Arm Kit?

http://www.karlu.com/images/LS143KITCAT.jpg

Will that head be OK? I'd much, much sooner the other quick release head... What's it called? :confused:

Muska
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 19:02
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3602/3412270627_6e756b4c9b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3400/3412271413_ff3098d971.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/3413074844_ae1cde7e7b.jpg

I was a bit lazy with the editing on the first one i know!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3413072574_8beecef061.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/3412269275_16aa994d54.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3412268465_e143f6682b.jpg

Cheers,
Matt.

DonJuanMair
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 19:29
Wow that pole is so long, what part of the midlands are you from muska

Muska
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 20:25
Haha, thanks! it's 16ft total length. I think i'll be able to drop a section from it when i get a wider angle lens. Which will help as it was not as stable as i'd have liked.

You can see the Ricoh arena in the background, that is coventry city's football stadium. I live about 10mins from that in a village.

Matt.

DonJuanMair
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 21:00
ah very cool, i am from birmingham originally thats why i asked, is mike mcginity still the chairman of coventry city? i went on holiday with him and his family a few times, my dad was good friends with him

Kryptix
5th of April 2009 (Sun), 08:12
Guys, can you please tell me where I can buy this head?

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=11009

I'm about to buy a Manfrotto Magic Arm and a Manfrotto Super Clamp but it doesn't come with the head. Can you tell me what head it uses? It's very hard to picture how it connects without ever using one before!

...or do you think I should just go for the Magic Arm Kit?

http://www.karlu.com/images/LS143KITCAT.jpg

Will that head be OK? I'd much, much sooner the other quick release head... What's it called? :confused:
Anyone?

JurekB
5th of April 2009 (Sun), 16:32
I use this one and it does the job very well.

http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?products_id=9394

VicSkimmr
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 13:39
Does anyone know what effect the suction cups would have on vinyl? Is it relatively safe to use over it or would I be at a high risk for a tear/bubble/complete loss of adhesion?

saturnin
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 14:16
i dont think they will stick... but i woudlnt do it...

VicSkimmr
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 15:15
Really? I mean it looks/feels the same as paint would :(

Zilly
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 17:07
vinal i would expect to at least bubble if not rip and distort
dont do it

john owen
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 17:10
It will stick, might have problems with the foot of the pad if it goes between the paint and the vinyl

The surface may feel the same bu they are very different, you can buff a mark out of paint, unless the vinyl has a clear coat over the top it will react differently

I would'nt do it, but if you need to then get yourself some vinyl from a sign maker and stick it on your car to see what happens. It will peel off after with a bit of help from a hair dryer or other heat source.

StreamlineGT
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 18:04
I put a cup on rok blok and it distorted it, don't do it.

saturnin
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 01:08
2 more from tonight..

its my under car rig using pinch rails that i've built.. im having some issues with due to bending slighty but i think i figure dout the issue.. :D enjoy

i'm happy with the under car rig... set up takes a bit and moving it round the car is a pain... but now having 3 rigs to choose from it makes this much easier.. now just have to get nicer cars..lol..

c&C welcomed and needed, i'm still shooting with a sigma fisheye on a full frame body, im on hte look out for 16-35

its a mitsubishi
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/mitsu1.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/mitsu2.jpg

PJH
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 03:04
nice work in post processing the images. Love the colours too. The location is also very nice. The texture on the roof really gives it an extra here. Keep up the good work. Can you give us some more info about your rigs?

john owen
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 05:01
Love that yellow arrow in second shot, great colour

VicSkimmr
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 08:59
It will stick, might have problems with the foot of the pad if it goes between the paint and the vinyl

The surface may feel the same bu they are very different, you can buff a mark out of paint, unless the vinyl has a clear coat over the top it will react differently

I would'nt do it, but if you need to then get yourself some vinyl from a sign maker and stick it on your car to see what happens. It will peel off after with a bit of help from a hair dryer or other heat source.

Well, the entire car is (or will be) covered in vinyl. I guess that still leaves me the option of mounting a rig to the sunroof :)

saturnin
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 10:57
i woulndt use or take chances of the suction cups on vinyl man, and the sunroof doesnt have enough space to evenly distribute the weight of the poles, plus sunroofs arent bulletproof. I once atached one suction to a sunroof on a car and the roof was tweakin... not a good idea. Id say if u hae to shoot a car thats coverd in vinyl, just shoot from another vehicle...if it is a paid gig for you, do that, its much easier and safer for both the vinyl and your camera etc

VicSkimmr
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 12:01
Yeah, you're right. Rolling shots just can't get the same effect though

saturnin
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 12:04
before all this rig stuff..guys were shooting from vans etc etc.. :D

sunten1
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 12:27
saturin do you have a link to your setup?

saturnin
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 13:06
i dont have a link but its same as everyones..lol.. i took my idea from automotiverigs.com and i built my own with a few differences, its still a work in progress as i'm finding new adjustments and such for each set up as each car is differnt. It would be too easy to just have one that works on every car(well suction cups do). I'm lucky enough to have friend who's a fabricator so he helps with certain things.
I was skeptical about the pinch rail setup that automotive rigs has...but it does work very well, even under the load of a 1ds and a lense, 13 feet pole..lol.. its heavy but it hold like glue.

Cars with the frame rust coating dont work with magnets of course, especially under my cameras load the magnets give out. On a regualr metal frame with no coating, it holds very well as well.

Suction cups, last resort, i just hate to photoshop that stuff out cuz i never feel that it looks right, even tho other ppl cant tell, i can and it bugs the crap outta me.

aridan
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 22:06
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3343/3434069327_95aa8f7303_o.jpg

DonJuanMair
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 22:15
i just took a cool one with my b&w filter, its great now i just have to edit the hood, john i might need your help ha

saturnin
8th of April 2009 (Wed), 02:16
Hood rig.. nice work..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3422969318_b0f934b5f7_o.jpg

aridan
8th of April 2009 (Wed), 09:02
Hood rig.. nice work..

Thanks :)

john owen
8th of April 2009 (Wed), 17:56
i just took a cool one with my b&w filter, its great now i just have to edit the hood, john i might need your help ha


ah, show me the picture

DonJuanMair
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 02:18
its ok i persisted......

the set up

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3426074686_898721f918_o.jpg

checking its all looking good

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3425266011_4a474b471b_o.jpg

and the final outcome

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3425265735_27efd93392_o.jpg

john owen
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 02:40
its ok i persisted......

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3425266011_4a474b471b_o.jpg

and the final outcome

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3425265735_5bebc275b4_o.jpg


I think one of your best to date, great job on the retouch - bring up the front a little with dodge and burn and its a really winner

Is nice

DonJuanMair
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 02:57
thanks John, i just did what you said, i think it looks better now

Yellowmsp
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 20:59
hahahaha check the exif on these two
http://www.scottlam.com/img/v8/p625699128-4.jpg
this one was terrible from the start with flare and vignette and all kinds of stuff but i tried to do a quick save for it. i dont like the colors in it. and an even longer exposure than the first haha
http://www.scottlam.com/img/v7/p603461017-4.jpg

saturnin
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 21:06
can you please post your exif, thanks

Yellowmsp
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 21:12
should be in the pics but its....
1.
Exposure Time: 6.000 s
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO equiv: 400


2.
Exposure Time: 20.000 s
Aperture: f/6.3
ISO equiv: 400

hahaha

aridan
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 21:42
One more

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/3434069469_d3ef394162_o.jpg

saturnin
9th of April 2009 (Thu), 22:01
r u shooting with the 10-22 aridan?

t0n3dawgg
10th of April 2009 (Fri), 01:01
Woah, so many ideas now!

Iroc313
10th of April 2009 (Fri), 01:07
How fast are you guys going when taking these pics?

DonJuanMair
10th of April 2009 (Fri), 01:12
3-5 mph usually