Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

[PJH]

on a 40D, considering the 1.6 crop factor, that's not very wide. it could work, but you'll need a big distance. I suggest you try it, if you have the gear available. You can always upgrade to a 10-20 of a 10-22 in case it doesn't work out.

[irlan85]

I have a question, after looking some of the rig set ups picts seen here and using the parts I already have, is there anything like the manfrotto's superclamp 035 but bigger and still compatible with the magic arm and manfrotto suction cups?

and, which is the exact name of the thing (spigot i think you call in english) needed to connect the pump cup 241 to the superclamp?

thanks!

PD: those lexus picts are amazing!!

[StreamlineGT]

did two shots of my friend's IS yesterday, probably the best one i have so far and I kinda like it...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3599200231_15009ffc85_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3589/3599199635_4c0fd5681f_o.jpg

I like the second as well, except for the building line matching up with the roofline. The dark area is a little distracting, and would like it much better if it were the same trees and sky as the rest.

[jhelms]

Does anyone have an opinion on whether 17mm will be wide enough for a rig shot or will i need something wider?


You'll need a LONG pole for 17mm to be enough on a crop sensor. Look for one of the 10-22 or other UWA lenses.

I went through the same thing and picked up a 12-24 and it works great with 10' pole for most angles, have to add extension for a few angles though.

[jhelms]

I have a question, after looking some of the rig set ups picts seen here and using the parts I already have, is there anything like the manfrotto's superclamp 035 but bigger and still compatible with the magic arm and manfrotto suction cups?

and, which is the exact name of the thing (spigot i think you call in english) needed to connect the pump cup 241 to the superclamp?

thanks!

PD: those lexus picts are amazing!!


The Avenger pump will plug right into a superclamp, no adapter needed.

[DonJuanMair]

i got these all at 17mm, but after using the 10mm its soo much better

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3425265735_b57492c5b2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3540469105_9c1aec7b79.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3628/3329541217_2794152ee7.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/3341547529_2c712b1b4d.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3412/3339075824_21ee20c5ff.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/3242617639_3bb5ec0cba.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/3239794759_6d41cfb3ed.jpg

that was with a 10ft pole, but with an uwa you tell me of a story, and its not just a car smack in the center.

Ste823 great shots!

[irlan85]

The Avenger pump will plug right into a superclamp, no adapter needed.

I know, but in order to connect the pump to a superclamp, what do i need?

[DonJuanMair]

nothing, he just answered you. it plugs right in

[jhelms]

I know, but in order to connect the pump to a superclamp, what do i need?

nothing, he just answered you. it plugs right in


That's right, all you do is take the avenger, and you stick it into the hole in the superclamp and twist the included tightening screw of the superclamp.

[irlan85]

That's right, all you do is take the avenger, and you stick it into the hole in the superclamp and twist the included tightening screw of the superclamp.


but I'm talking about this one:
http://harrysproshop.com/Tripods/superclamps/241.jpg
Manfrotto 241 Pump Cup w 5/8

how can I attach to that model a superclamp??

[syntax error]

The superclamp usually comes with a spigot anyway, so just plug it in that hole and tighten...

[irlan85]

mine has none :S

[Kryptix]

mine has none :S
You can buy a little adapter for it... Have a search on wherever you bought the Super Clamp from.

[jhelms]

but I'm talking about this one:
http://harrysproshop.com/Tripods/superclamps/241.jpg
Manfrotto 241 Pump Cup w 5/8

how can I attach to that model a superclamp??


That piece on the 241 either unscrews and removes allowing you to put the superclamp in it's place, or if not then the superclamp comes with an extra spigot that will attach to the top piece in the pic you posted. So you should be good either way.

[Sil3ntP8nd8]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/3600034078_0941483663.jpg

10' emt, magic arm, f1000, and clamps

one thing i did notice was the shakyness of the pole even though the top of th parking garage was super smooth and flat. and it was hard getting the red line NOT to appear on the cups. even though i did wipe the car surface down.

oh yeah, im waiting for my 11-16 tokina to come in as well

[iNfEk]

beautiful! care to share the exif data or your flickr account?

[Bots'_Revenge]

Hey guys, I'm proud to share with you some shots I made with my new real rig. I finally got a chance to test it on a car.

I'd really appreciate some criticism. 10x

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3606391755_4057100850.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3302/3607211636_93f157755b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3383/3606391421_73b713a001.jpg

This is my rig:
http://www.stefansolakov.com/other/Rig_s.jpg

It was remarkably stable vertically, but I got some movement to the sides. I'm thinking of using some rope to stabilize it horizontally.

[hphoto]

^^^^
Very sharp indeed. I believe you have master the rig. I'm guessing 10 ft EMT and with a 10-22 wide angel. What did you use to get the vertical pole to connect to the horizontal pole. Need that for my rig but lost on constructed it.

[Bots'_Revenge]

Thanks. Glad you like my pictures.
I'm using a Sigma 10-20 currently at 10mm. I need to make my pole longer.

In order to connect the vertical pole to the horizontal I used two flat aluminum pieces and a total of three bolts - two for the vertical pole and one for the horizontal one. I'm also using thumb screws so that it's easier to assemble the rig outdoors.

The 10" pole itself is cut in two for easier transportation.

[RoryOD]

Anyone know where you can get the Avenger Pump Cup with Swivel in the UK/Euro zone at a good price?? all the online shops i find are in the US..maybe i should just move across the atlantic :-)

[DonJuanMair]

Bots revenge is there any chance you can show close ups of the wire connecting to the horizontal pole please? your shots came out great

[hphoto]

Bots revenge is there any chance you can show close ups of the wire connecting to the horizontal pole please? your shots came out great
Please, if could be so kind, we would greatly appreciated it if you could.

[StE823]

some of my other recent rigshots, more cars lining up for me to do these shots :o

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2469/3604113772_67740be69e_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/3606375596_225bcafe2a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/3608250718_9a83952438_o.jpg

[Mike Bowen]

ste, your shots looks great. mind if you spill the beans on your rig? pole specs, maybe some setup shots?

Thanks

[StE823]

^ no problem, its a 1.6" OD aluminum pipe in 3 sections... 5" x3... 15" in total...
manfrotto magic arm, and suction cups... pretty much same with what people have in here...
mounted witih steel couplings...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3596521491_2e55c3fb5e.jpg

[Mike Bowen]

Cool, yeah looks pretty similar to everyone else. Do you happen to know the wall thickness of the tubing?

[Bots'_Revenge]

DonJuanMair, hphoto, of course I would :)
Here it is:
http://www.stefansolakov.com/other/Rig_cable_s.jpg

It's a 4 meters long steel cable, 2mm in diameter. It's seriously rigid.
I connect it to the pole with the help of two simple luster terminals (not sure if I named it correctly). I attach both ends first and then I pull the cable up on top of the vertical pole. The cable gets pretty strained and doesn't allow much vertical movement.

[StE823]

Cool, yeah looks pretty similar to everyone else. Do you happen to know the wall thickness of the tubing?

when i measure it its like 1.4" ID...

[Mike Bowen]

awesome, thanks ste! keep it up your shots and cars look great

[irlan85]

can anyone give me some help with this, I'm looking for something similar to manfrotto's super clamp but bigger. I need one which can be attached into a bigger tube than my actual super clamp... do you know about any model and where to purchase it online? thanks.

[jhelms]

can anyone give me some help with this, I'm looking for something similar to manfrotto's super clamp but bigger. I need one which can be attached into a bigger tube than my actual super clamp... do you know about any model and where to purchase it online? thanks.


What is the outside diameter of your tube?

[hphoto]

some of my other recent rigshots, more cars lining up for me to do these shots :o
Im loving the pictures. Did you use any ND filter with lens? Also you charging for doing these pictures yet. Because if I was you I be charging already. Could make some money to pay of that rig. Good Job on the sky. Its sick.............

[hphoto]

DonJuanMair, hphoto, of course I would :)
Here it is:
http://www.stefansolakov.com/other/Rig_cable_s.jpg

It's a 4 meters long steel cable, 2mm in diameter. It's seriously rigid.
I connect it to the pole with the help of two simple luster terminals (not sure if I named it correctly). I attach both ends first and then I pull the cable up on top of the vertical pole. The cable gets pretty strained and doesn't allow much vertical movement.

Thanks for the picture. Now I have to get working on building it. I'll post some of my when I get better result.

[StE823]

Im loving the pictures. Did you use any ND filter with lens? Also you charging for doing these pictures yet. Because if I was you I be charging already. Could make some money to pay of that rig. Good Job on the sky. Its sick.............
Yes! currently using one ND x8, but i need more thats why im shooting around evening mostly... and yes! im kinda start charing money to do these shots... unless the car is really nice or my buddy's car, lol

definetly need to make some money to payoff that rig!!!

[jhelms]

Yes! currently using one ND x8, but i need more thats why im shooting around evening mostly... and yes! im kinda start charing money to do these shots... unless the car is really nice or my buddy's car, lol

definetly need to make some money to payoff that rig!!!


What do ya'll think is a good starting point for what to charge on these? I'm guessing an hour or so for setup and shooting time, then no telling how much time spent on photoshopping afterwards...

[CH@Dbee]

What do ya'll think is a good starting point for what to charge on these? I'm guessing an hour or so for setup and shooting time, then no telling how much time spent on photoshopping afterwards...
i normally spend about 2 hours per shot in set-up/shooting/PP

what is your time worth hourly? plus me and you are the only photographers in GA that i know of with rigs ;)

[RoryOD]

some of my other recent rigshots, more cars lining up for me to do these shots :o





http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/3608250718_9a83952438_o.jpg


Great shots..i think the extra 5' makes a difference.
What was the shutter speeds on this one, was it pushed or driven.
nice work. looking forward to seeing more

rory

[uracowman]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8081101#post8081101

[RoryOD]

Whats better in the magic arm..the knob/wheel lock or the level lock?
anyone with pros/cons?
thanks

[EMSbyDay]

ok, so my piping came in today. 1.5" trade size aluminum conduit, 10ft length. Now obviously the sturdiest way to use it is in a straight 10ft length. It comes with male threaded ends and a female threaded coupler on one end. When the coupler is threaded tight down it seems pretty sturdy on the one end. I'd like the setup to be more portable and fit in my car so I'm debating cutting the pipe in half and having the two threaded ends in the middle. what is everyone else using for couplers? Are people using the threads, or are you using other longer sleeves overtop of the pipe secured somehow?

I'd like to just use this coupler if it will work but I dont know that it is long enough. the threads measure 1 14" on both ends and the coupler is only 2" long. i'd like the coupler to be wound tight to the end of the threads for stability.

http://www.stuckonmedia.ca/images/aluminumend1.jpg

http://www.stuckonmedia.ca/images/aluminumend2.jpg

[JDMist3hFastar]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/3615127926_d43c152871_o.png

Do those look to be the right parts? Also, the speedy metal website is kinda confusing. Could someone post a link to the proper tubing? Thanks guys!

[CH@Dbee]

Whats better in the magic arm..the knob/wheel lock or the level lock?
anyone with pros/cons?
thanks
buy the one that is lighter. more weight=more bounce.

[StreamlineGT]

ok, so my piping came in today. 1.5" trade size aluminum conduit, 10ft length. Now obviously the sturdiest way to use it is in a straight 10ft length. It comes with male threaded ends and a female threaded coupler on one end. When the coupler is threaded tight down it seems pretty sturdy on the one end. I'd like the setup to be more portable and fit in my car so I'm debating cutting the pipe in half and having the two threaded ends in the middle. what is everyone else using for couplers? Are people using the threads, or are you using other longer sleeves overtop of the pipe secured somehow?

I'd like to just use this coupler if it will work but I dont know that it is long enough. the threads measure 1 14" on both ends and the coupler is only 2" long. i'd like the coupler to be wound tight to the end of the threads for stability.



Mine is a three piece, and I use the threads and they work great. What I did was take a stick, cut it in half, and threaded the ends. I had a second piece that I cut three feet off, and use the other 7 feet for when I need some extra reach, but very rarely. A plumber or electrical contractor may have the tools to thread, or you can try to bring it to home depot, but not sure how they feel about threading something they don't sell.

[StE823]

some shots i did again, god im happy to shoot both of these cars!
also im gonna rest awhile for rigging, im pretty much cloned out.. LOL
Enjoy!

And yes! I'm from Toronto, if u can notice the tiny CN tower in the background!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3614625461_82ce3e90c6_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3614629403_7fa4f21575_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/3615447576_05e09553d3_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3614629277_794b2dd601_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/3615443542_9fb3da4127_o.jpg

Here's the rest of the set of these cars.. :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste823/sets/72157619568913034/

[Iank89]

T-Rex Rig shoot. : ) The PS effect isn't really my style. However it fit the theme of the shoot IMO. When you see it in real life it plays that fantasy aspect quite a bit, so it works in this aspect as far as Im concerned.

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs45/i/2009/161/6/0/T_Rex_2_by_IanKley.jpg

Pics of the set-up.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3614852125_ea92e290eb.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3614854053_4edb148f78.jpg

[iNfEk]

some shots i did again, god im happy to shoot both of these cars!
also im gonna rest awhile for rigging, im pretty much cloned out.. LOL
Enjoy!

And yes! I'm from Toronto, if u can notice the tiny CN tower in the background!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3614629403_7fa4f21575_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/3615447576_05e09553d3_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3614629277_794b2dd601_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/3615443542_9fb3da4127_o.jpg

Here's the rest of the set of these cars.. :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste823/sets/72157619568913034/
nice set... are you pushing or driving?

[StE823]

those four shots are driven... but at low speed

[StE823]

dude this would be an awesome shot w/o the photoshop effect!!! :(

T-Rex Rig shoot. : ) The PS effect isn't really my style. However it fit the theme of the shoot IMO. When you see it in real life it plays that fantasy aspect quite a bit, so it works in this aspect as far as Im concerned.

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs45/i/2009/161/6/0/T_Rex_2_by_IanKley.jpg

Pics of the set-up.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3614852125_ea92e290eb.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3614854053_4edb148f78.jpg

[iNfEk]

those four shots are driven... but at low speed
I figured that much...Thanks... just wanted to confirm.

[saturnin]

ring info can be found on other pages of this thread... thanks for looking

[KhanhD]

Okay guys Im ready to order my rig.

2x Avenger F1000 Pump Cups
3x Manfrotto Super Clamps. Theres like 10 variations, anyone have the part number of the one I want?

Ill be using the PanaVise ball head off the current mini rig I have. Pretty much as soon as I figure out which SuperClamps I want to order Im ready to do so.

[Sil3ntP8nd8]

Okay guys Im ready to order my rig.

2x Avenger F1000 Pump Cups
3x Manfrotto Super Clamps. Theres like 10 variations, anyone have the part number of the one I want?

Ill be using the PanaVise ball head off the current mini rig I have. Pretty much as soon as I figure out which SuperClamps I want to order Im ready to do so.

This is what I bought:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3578928642_6668c92f52_o.jpg

You dont need the ball head, and I bought the bogen magic arm off of amazon since it was in stock. Besides that, I bought everything and a 10' EMT pole at lowes (home depot)

[Joe_Gravelle]

they have suction cup things at lowes? do tell

[KhanhD]

Here's whats in my shopping cart at B&H right now

2x Avenger F1000 Pump Cup with Baby Swivel Pin $56.95 $113.90
2x Manfrotto 035RL Super Clamp with Standard Stud $27.50 $55
1x Manfrotto Magic Arm Kit - consists of: Magic Arm, Camera Platform, Super Clamp, Backlite Base $139.95

Total $308.85

Sil3ntP8nd8 how come you bought 3 Super Clamps in addition to the one in the Magic Arm kit? You'll have a total of 4..

[EMSbyDay]

StreamlineGT how long is the coupler you are using? I can only find 2" long couplers. The pipe already came threaded on both ends but the coupler is only super snug if its threaded tight to the ends of the threads otherwise its a little loose. Problem is the threaded sections are 1 1/4" each and the coupler only 2".

Soooo, I'm wondering about maybe having the coupler aluminum welded to one pipe about a 1/2" up the threads.

[williamsr815]

Do you have to special order the EMT pole at Lowes / Home Depot?? I went in the other day and maybe i was in the wrong section but i couldn't find anything but chain link fence pipe which weighs about 10 lbs which is a little bit much for me...

Also, does having an IS lens help reduce small vibrations caused by the car moving at all? I'm not very familiar with IS and i just thought about it, thanks.

[EMSbyDay]

10lbs isnt much for a 10ft pipe. 1 1.4" trade size steel EMT is over 20lbs.

Most people are prefering 1 1/2" trade size aluminum rigi conduit. Go to an electrical supply store.

[williamsr815]

yea i just called home depot and they now magically have it in stock...10 ft lengths of 1.5 in EMT and RMC for like 10 bucks....only problem is the EMT does not come threaded and im afraid the couplers they have will not be strong enough, any ideas?

[Sil3ntP8nd8]

In my other cart I bought a couple light stands too, umbrella mounts, etc. I know it comes with it but you can never have too many (unless you buy 10 and try to resell them).

The 10' pole is in the electrical department at lowes. And they dont sell cups there, i was just saying where I got my pole. Everything else was on amazon and adorama

[DisrupTer911]

yea i just called home depot and they now magically have it in stock...10 ft lengths of 1.5 in EMT and RMC for like 10 bucks....only problem is the EMT does not come threaded and im afraid the couplers they have will not be strong enough, any ideas?

If i'm not mistaken, HomeDepot/Lowes have pipe threading machines that can thread the outside of the tubing for you and then you can add couplers...

[williamsr815]

If i'm not mistaken, HomeDepot/Lowes have pipe threading machines that can thread the outside of the tubing for you and then you can add couplers...

Your right about them having the pipe threading machines but for some reason, i was told they cannot thread the EMT pipe, i'm going to go up there and ask in person and see if that helps. doubt it tho...

also, are there any off brand versions of the magic arm or any articulating arm in general? or does manfrotto have the market cornered as i suspected.

[iNfEk]

isn't' the EMT that they sell at lowes and home depot steel?

[Mike Bowen]

isn't' the EMT that they sell at lowes and home depot steel?

yea it's galvanized steel. they dont (at least i've never seen) any aluminum conduit. you need to go to a electrical outfit to find it.

[iNfEk]

isn't galvanized steel pretty heavy on the hood or roof of a car?

[Mike Bowen]

it's pretty thin walled, so you can get like 1.5" to work, but only 10'. it isn't the best for this type of setup, especially if you are lookng to go loinger than 10'.

[williamsr815]

do you know if Lowes/ Home Depot sell rigid aluminum conduit?

[Mike Bowen]

no, for the 50th time they dont. :)

electrical supplier is where you get it.

[williamsr815]

haha sorry just seein if you were paying attention

[CH@Dbee]

my EMT that i got from lowes was 10 ft but i welded another 1 ft on to it for now untill i get me 14 ft or so of aluminum EMT

[hphoto]

some shots i did again, god im happy to shoot both of these cars!
also im gonna rest awhile for rigging, im pretty much cloned out.. LOL
Enjoy!

And yes! I'm from Toronto, if u can notice the tiny CN tower in the background!http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3623/3614629277_794b2dd601_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/3615443542_9fb3da4127_o.jpg

Here's the rest of the set of these cars.. :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste823/sets/72157619568913034/

When you shoot other peoples car like these (Expensive cars) are you every worry that something bad might happen to the car, like scratches or dents. Also is the suction on the body of the hood and trunk or the glass window...

[StE823]

^ really? i never knew it can cause any damage to the paint or dent the car!!!?????!!

anyways just kidding, well first thing i would is aim for sunroofs and windshields... also if you mount it on the body panel just make sure if that part is strong enough... knock around the panel and pushing it down see if it can support a 15 feet pole...

and i did quite a few shots on my car before i do it on other people's car... lastly im very close with a body shop and a dent guy, if ****s happen i'll just sent it over to them *of course i would pay the labour for sure if it really happen.. lol*

but given if i can't find any sunroof or hood/bonnet to mount on, i can still mount it on the front windshield and one of the side window...

just like this EvoX, it was mounted on the front windshield and the driver's side window..
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/3608250718_9a83952438_o.jpg

[iNfEk]

does the manfrotto suction cups work well on the windsheild vs the hood or metal surface?

[StE823]

^ yea, actually.. i use 3 cups mostly... the windshield would come off before the cups fall off..

[KhanhD]

Looks like my Avenger cups, Super Clamps and Magic arm will be in TOMORROW! Hooray for B&H!

While I was at Home Depot today, 1" EMT looked fairly rigid and was fairly light. 1.25" EMT, while more rigid, was substantially heavier. They were out of 1.5", and 2" was just too heavy. I think Ill buy both the 1" and 1.25" and see which works for me. I almost picked them up today but didnt since I didnt know that my hardware would be in tomorrow

[justincase724]

Your right about them having the pipe threading machines but for some reason, i was told they cannot thread the EMT pipe, i'm going to go up there and ask in person and see if that helps. doubt it tho...

Their threaders are for rigid conduit. EMT is too thin-walled to thread. If you want to make it longer, I think 1" EMT slides right in 1 1/4" EMT (or something along those lines). Stick a 12" piece of 1" in between two pieces of 1 1/4", drill a couple holes, bolt it all together. Probably going to be way heavy though.

For aluminum tubing, you can find some here (http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=947&step=2&top_cat=60). It's quite expensive though.

[KhanhD]

Called the local electrical supply and they have AL Conduit. $35/10 foot for 1.5", $28/10 foot for 1.25". Ill be heading down there once my hardware comes in to pick up a stick of 1.5". I will also see if the 1.25" will slide snugly inside the 1.5", and if it does I will pick up half a stick of that, also.

[EMSbyDay]

Talked to my local aluminum welder ( close buddy ) who apparenty moved shops and no longer has aluminum welding materials. (background for those not following) I got my Aluminum conduit in, threaded on the ends but only tight when the coupler is threaded right to the end of the threads, prob being the threads are 1 1/4" long each and coupler is only 2" long. my plan was to weld the coupler on one end a 1/2" out. He suggests just cutting a 1/4" off the end of each threads.

Do you think this will still have enough support to hang a camera off?

Can anyone using the threads to put their pipes together tell me how long their couplers are, or what you are connecting with?

[StreamlineGT]

I use the 1.5" with two couplings in it, both of which are outboard of the suction cups, and haven't had a problem.

[KhanhD]

My rig is ready to rock!

I might in the future buy another stick of the tubing I have and cut it to 3.5/6.5' so I have further extension. That is, after I see what kind of coverage I can get with the 10-20 once it comes in.

While most people are having issues with their boom bending under weight, Im having issues with the sheetmetal on my Subie bending. :lol:

Oh yeah. Whoever asked if 1.5" Rigid Aluminum Conduit is too big for a Super Clamp, its not. Barely. It holds solid, but Im not sure itll hold anything much larger. I wanted to wrap my entire pole in black hockey tape to prevent glare/reflections and to help with scratching if I do hit the car with it, but Im not too sure about it now.

[Muska]

My rig has just gone up for sale in the for sale section if anyone fancies getting one with all the right parts ready made at a knock down price.

Regards,
Matt.

[StE823]

My rig is ready to rock!

I might in the future buy another stick of the tubing I have and cut it to 3.5/6.5' so I have further extension. That is, after I see what kind of coverage I can get with the 10-20 once it comes in.

While most people are having issues with their boom bending under weight, Im having issues with the sheetmetal on my Subie bending. :lol:

Oh yeah. Whoever asked if 1.5" Rigid Aluminum Conduit is too big for a Super Clamp, its not. Barely. It holds solid, but Im not sure itll hold anything much larger. I wanted to wrap my entire pole in black hockey tape to prevent glare/reflections and to help with scratching if I do hit the car with it, but Im not too sure about it now.

if the sheetmetal is bending you should put it in different body panel...

[cedew]

Or try to use leverage in your favor. The further apart your suction cups are, the less force you are putting on your panels.

[fanorama]

no, for the 50th time they dont. http://www.cookiewriter.com/trafficreport/img/3721/j09s0423emrh/a.gif

electrical supplier is where you get it.

So, I really need to go to an electrical supplier to have one.

[KhanhD]

if the sheetmetal is bending you should put it in different body panel...

Or try to use leverage in your favor. The further apart your suction cups are, the less force you are putting on your panels.
When I was on the roof I had to put one of the cups in the middle of the roof and 1 at the near edge in order to get the extension I needed.

I think thatll be rectified by buying another stick of conduit and when my 10-20 comes in

[StE823]

When I was on the roof I had to put one of the cups in the middle of the roof and 1 at the near edge in order to get the extension I needed.

I think thatll be rectified by buying another stick of conduit and when my 10-20 comes in
unless u have a sunroof, NEVER put one right in the middle of the roof (i drive a subie too), aim for corner of the roofs... the middle part of the sheet can be caved in...

[KhanhD]

I did some more testing and this is what I got.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/kduongphotography/CIMG7700.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/kduongphotography/CIMG7697.jpg

Well..those are a couple snaps of the setup my sister took while I was playing. CS2 clone stamp is giving me a hard time..

[KhanhD]

Heres a 5 minute PP job. I need to watch the BGs I use when shooting better. The trees and fence made cloning out the rig a bitch.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/kduongphotography/IMG_7925.jpg

[StE823]

Took a pic of a mini, trying to get the auto-x feel.. but forgot to grab more cones :S

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3624042754_d7690285a6_o.jpg

[iNfEk]

one I took today (a few hours ago) with a steel boom since the place I can get an aluminum pole from is closed (crossing fingers it's the right one). This is of my brothers turbo Miata.. driven at low speed

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/3623846321_d9026d2d9b_b.jpg
only the second one I've ever done

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3623971095_cec99c6992_b.jpg

[StE823]

not bad!
but 2nd shot's front wheel is kinda blurry

[iNfEk]

yeah, I'm still learning how to take these types of shots and the settings from the first one didn't work due to the change in ambient lighting conditions.

Also, I was just trying out some steel tent poles lying around the house... I so want my aluminum setup!

any additional tips you could give me StE823?

[iNfEk]

Took a pic of a mini, trying to get the auto-x feel.. but forgot to grab more cones :S

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3624042754_d7690285a6_o.jpg
you should have put a cone there that would make it more believable as an auto-x shot

[irlan85]

hey I'm trying to get my pipe here in Europe, do you guys have its dimensions in centimeters so I can clarify in the shop what I want? I mean for that set-up that almost everyone use...

or at least tell me each specification of lenght, diameter and thickness with its metering units, as I don't know what you mean with the numbers by itself hehee sorry for that.

thanks!!

[hfry]

Lets get this Strait.

Recommendation for which "Super Clamp" best compatible with F1000 baby Swivel Avenger Pump Cup?
C1575B (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/C1575B?product_from_search=true)
Or
C1550 (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/C1550?product_from_search=true)

Went to a Local electrical Supply store today and Got a Mad hook up on 20 ft of Aluminum 2.05 Diam. Wall .15 . $50 out the door Cut in 4x 5ft Pieces with 3 of the pieces with one end expanded so they can be Slid into One another at about 4inch Slide in. I merely have to drill holes for bolts etcs.

Now as far as these Bogen Magical Arms arms go.. I guess these are the Main choices. But Which one would be recommended.

143 (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/143A?product_from_search=true)
or
244 (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/244?product_from_search=true)

Also, Id like to discuss Counter Weight ideas.

[hphoto]

Those are umbrella bracket http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/298709-REG/Impact_3117_Umbrella_Bracket.html
2 of them connect i believe.

Lets get this Strait.

Recommendation for which "Super Clamp" best compatible with F1000 baby Swivel Avenger Pump Cup?
C1575B (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/C1575B?product_from_search=true)
Or
C1550 (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/C1550?product_from_search=true)

Went to a Local electrical Supply store today and Got a Mad hook up on 20 ft of Aluminum 2.05 Diam. Wall .15 . $50 out the door Cut in 4x 5ft Pieces with 3 of the pieces with one end expanded so they can be Slid into One another at about 4inch Slide in. I merely have to drill holes for bolts etcs.

Now as far as these Bogen Magical Arms arms go.. I guess these are the Main choices. But Which one would be recommended.

143 (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/143A?product_from_search=true)
or
244 (http://www.bogenimaging.us/code/bius/244?product_from_search=true)

Also, Id like to discuss Counter Weight ideas. As well as Raiser Options for the Cups. This Flat Angle Crap Isn't doin it for me. Lets Do this.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3426074686_898721f918_o.jpg
DonJuanMair (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=115086) What did you use for those Raisers?

[hfry]

Ride on thanks Bro.

[DisrupTer911]

a magic arm would probably be a more stable solution instead of 2 or 3 umbrella brackets lol

I like that idea tho!

[jhelms]

a magic arm would probably be a more stable solution instead of 2 or 3 umbrella brackets lol

I like that idea tho!


Or one of these solid 12 inch extensions...

http://www.stickypod.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=35

[aridan]

Time for a B/W one... :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2436/3630321305_e45db9cef1_o.jpg

[hphoto]

Nice b/w one.... Got one in color that you dont mind sharing with us.

[aridan]

Nice b/w one.... Got one in color that you dont mind sharing with us.

I have the original colored one but it's unedited (rig is in it)

[KhanhD]

How would you guys feel about attaching the cups to the roof of your car, putting the pole on it, and driving around with that? That would be the only way I could transport my 10' pole around, and no, I *WILL NOT* chop it.

[DonJuanMair]

i thought about doing that for a while, then i thought about someone hitting me from behind, the pole easily coming out the clamps and going through the chest of the driver in the car in front

[idobref]

one from me...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/idobref/rolling1.jpg

[EMSbyDay]

So, should finally have my F1000 cups in a couple of days. been waiting WEEKS for the store to get them from the supplier ( who is only 20mi away ). Found out yesterday they shipped them to the wrong store. grrrrrrr. but should have them in the next 2 days, so new pics to come soon.

[aridan]

How would you guys feel about attaching the cups to the roof of your car, putting the pole on it, and driving around with that? That would be the only way I could transport my 10' pole around, and no, I *WILL NOT* chop it.

I transport my 11' pole in my sedan by opening a the pass-thru between the trunk and rear seat. I insert it through the trunk, all the way into the cabin and it ends by front console next to the passenger seat.

[bReed]

Just bought a canon 16-35 2.8 now how dark of a ND filter do i need? and where can i purchase them from?

[StE823]

more recent, kinda try doing it at dark... kinda challenging...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3636610732_425bfb2e18_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3601/3635793203_b2570e6d04_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3636603648_c42b2ddef3_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/3636609876_875027ffc5_o.jpg

[EMSbyDay]

Anyone ever have rings left on the car from the suction cups. My old cups ( avengers still being shipped ) have sometimes left invisible rings on the car. Not usually visible to the naked eye, but once the car is wet it seems like a residue was left that leaves water patterns.

Below pic shows a glass roof of a car.

http://www.stuckonmedia.ca/images/suctionring.jpg

Gonna take some 99% Isopropol Alcohol from my shop to it, see if it gets rid of it.

[StE823]

Anyone ever have rings left on the car from the suction cups. My old cups ( avengers still being shipped ) have sometimes left invisible rings on the car. Not usually visible to the naked eye, but once the car is wet it seems like a residue was left that leaves water patterns.

Below pic shows a glass roof of a car.

http://www.stuckonmedia.ca/images/suctionring.jpg

Gonna take some 99% Isopropol Alcohol from my shop to it, see if it gets rid of it.
not sure on the windshield, but i'd say it should work... on the body wax can get rid the ring (from what i seen during my research, i didn't wax my car yet.. but that's what i told people while im rigging up their cars)

[jeffrsx231]

Dude, just wax it off. Works everytime for me. Even spray wax works most the time.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3638447573_4359573f8d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3638448089_c32c7a9e77_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3638448227_a734d6fa77_o.jpg

[DisrupTer911]

great shots!
where did you get the tow hook!?

[bReed]

Just bought a canon 16-35 2.8 now how dark of a ND filter do i need? and where can i purchase them from?
Help?

[n1nj4 m0d3]

great shots!
where did you get the tow hook!?
thanks! i forgot where i bought the tow hook from, but it's made by nukabe

Help?
you can always use a smaller aperture. the shots above were shot at f/8 with a cpl. i would get the nd 4 just because 2 is not dark enough and 8 is way too dark.

[quickster]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3638447573_4359573f8d_o.jpg




probably one of my favorite rig shot of yours.

[KhanhD]

I transport my 11' pole in my sedan by opening a the pass-thru between the trunk and rear seat. I insert it through the trunk, all the way into the cabin and it ends by front console next to the passenger seat.
I have a custom trunk setup, though, so I no longer have a pass-thru

Also, what ND are you guys using? I can only buy ONE (girlie broke my CPL so I have to replace it) so Im trying to decide between teh ND.6 (2 stops) or ND.9 (3 stops)

[EMSbyDay]

So great. After waiting 3 weeks for my Avenger F1000 cups to come in, I pick them up today AND ONE OF THEM DOES NOT WORK!!!! :mad:

You pump and pump and pump but it never gets to full suction. The other cup pumps what I assume is normal. Takes about 20-30 pumps to get to the red line. The one cup though i just keep pumping and it will build a very SMALL bit of suction bu never full suction.

soo frustrated right now.

[Mike Bowen]

You try cleaning off the edge of the cups? I thought one of mine was broken when i first got it...cleaned off the edges, got a nice flat surface and tried again and it worked

[Kryptix]

I'm about to buy two suction cups and two super clamps to hold my bar, but ideally I'd like to be able to position the bar a bit. Is there anything that can in-between the suction cup and the super clamp to sort of 'lengthen' the gap or put it at an angle? That way I can put one lower, one higher and have the camera high in the air and so on. I'd also like to be able to swivel it either side so I can stick it to the windscreen.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2653/166/117/500937216/n500937216_2057089_931428.jpg

What gear is he using? What suction cup and clamps? Is there anything between 'em?

[Mike Bowen]

Get the cups that have the pivot ball on them. You can angle them however you want then

[Kryptix]

Get the cups that have the pivot ball on them. You can angle them however you want then
Link?

[iNfEk]

So great. After waiting 3 weeks for my Avenger F1000 cups to come in, I pick them up today AND ONE OF THEM DOES NOT WORK!!!! :mad:

You pump and pump and pump but it never gets to full suction. The other cup pumps what I assume is normal. Takes about 20-30 pumps to get to the red line. The one cup though i just keep pumping and it will build a very SMALL bit of suction bu never full suction.

soo frustrated right now.
are you sure the pump is completely covering the surface of the area you're trying to stick it too... i have the same problem with mine and I have to push down LIGHTLY to get it to start going

[Mike Bowen]

Link?

Avenger F1000, just about everyone in here is using em. B&H sells em

[aridan]

Also, what ND are you guys using? I can only buy ONE (girlie broke my CPL so I have to replace it) so Im trying to decide between teh ND.6 (2 stops) or ND.9 (3 stops)

I used a CPL + 2 stop ND + 4 stop ND for this one:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2436/3630321305_e45db9cef1_o.jpg

[Kryptix]

Where can you get the Avenger F1000's in the UK? ...or at least, where will ship to the UK for a non-rip off price?

[quickster]

here are some from thurs

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3640981098_a2bd1ca5c4.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3640170675_5698d9e190.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3569/3640170361_afdac745f6.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3640170259_0b8f580236.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3640980814_57e88fe113.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3640170551_caba094606.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3348/3640173963_6ed399702f_o.jpg

[aridan]

Bro... what's up with that?!?! :eek: Please tell me this is NOT YOUR car... :D


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3640170551_caba094606.jpg?v=0

[EMSbyDay]

are you sure the pump is completely covering the surface of the area you're trying to stick it too... i have the same problem with mine and I have to push down LIGHTLY to get it to start going


Ya I've tried a bunch of stuff, cleaned it, and it was tested by a bunch of us on a prefectly flat glass counter at the camera store and nuthin. it would start to build ( and holds ) pressure, but never built up full pressure and would never get down even close to the line.

[KhanhD]

I used a CPL + 2 stop ND + 4 stop ND for this one:


Damn 6 stops worth of ND.

[saturnin]

lol..whts up with hello kitty all over the place hahahahahaah

[urbansickness]

Where can you get the Avenger F1000's in the UK? ...or at least, where will ship to the UK for a non-rip off price?

http://www.bogenimaging.co.uk/Jahia/site/biuk/pid/15913?kindOfProductCollectionRequest=productDetail&productCode=F1000&productDescription=PUMP%20CUP%20W/BABY%20SWIVEL%20PIN&curBrandId=BAV&market=MKT4&WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=bius_g00002&gclid=COni8NDimZsCFdUB4wodrz3hpw

based in crawley west sussex

[iNfEk]

beautiful.


here's another attempt taken just a little while ago... i can't seem to get the front or rear of the car in focus (depending on the angle I'm shooting at)... any tips? I need to shoot during the day though :( I'm waiting for my aluminum tubing to come in so I'm using a steel tent pole for the boom at the moment

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/3645873743_4e7ca2e2aa_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/3646733030_10e8b6f27d_b.jpg

[RaymondXTi]

I know most of you seem to use the Manfrotto 037 Superclamps, right?

Well a local guy on Craigslist has like 10+ Manfrotto 035 Superclamps for sale really cheap. I already talked to him and I can get three of them for $30, which is the price of one normally. Is there a big difference between the 035 and 037? I want to make sure before I buy them, because I looked at pictures of them and can't see how they're different. Thanks!

[KhanhD]

Mine are 035s

[n1nj4 m0d3]

probably one of my favorite rig shot of yours.
thank you! you have too many nice shots for me to just pick one :thumbup:

my brand new avenger f1000 cups don't work either. so pissed off.

a small shoot a couple days ago:

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3645292540_ed64a6bf7e_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3644007601_bbf9e6b59d_o.jpg

before:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3644484461_59d2980b34_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3345/3644814048_ef36ed563f_o.jpg

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/3645292688_7a1340419a_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3664/3644008765_9b9d58ebfb_o.jpg

before:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2428/3645292784_b863f47b5a_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3644815390_2628b8ef0b_o.jpg

[n1nj4 m0d3]

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3352/3645292930_856ed6abbb_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3644009807_8074d64cfa_o.jpg

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3621/3644485223_934e5bd5dc_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3644010293_fbd451d379_o.jpg

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3645293208_a987bfe74a_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3644816914_d0c7caa0c5_o.jpg

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3321/3645293360_b9d31a2136_o.jpg

after:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3339/3644011469_6bf2d3047d_o.jpg

the shots were taken with a sigma 10-20mm with a cpl, between .3-.8 second shutter, 100 iso, between f/4-10 (got dark way too fast), with a dark cloud cover

[RaymondXTi]

^Awesome work man, and great job on the pp.

[DonJuanMair]

great work ninja how long is your pole?

[n1nj4 m0d3]

thanks :)

great work ninja how long is your pole?
that's what she said ;)

j/k! it's 2 6' poles linked into one, so approximately 11'?

[Kryptix]

http://www.bogenimaging.co.uk/Jahia/site/biuk/pid/15913?kindOfProductCollectionRequest=productDetail&productCode=F1000&productDescription=PUMP%20CUP%20W/BABY%20SWIVEL%20PIN&curBrandId=BAV&market=MKT4&WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=bius_g00002&gclid=COni8NDimZsCFdUB4wodrz3hpw

based in crawley west sussex
Thanks, but what are these then?

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2653/166/117/500937216/n500937216_2057089_931428.jpg

They look completely differently...

[EMSbyDay]

n1nj4, you said your F1000 cups arn't working. What isnt working on them? I wanna know if its a widespread problem when I call my dealer tomorrow with my problem.

[RaymondXTi]

So anyone else on the Manfrotto 035 VS 037 superclamps? I should be picking them up tommorow.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

They look completely differently...
^those might be the older style.

n1nj4, you said your F1000 cups arn't working. What isnt working on them? I wanna know if its a widespread problem when I call my dealer tomorrow with my problem.
both the cups i have seems to be leaking oil from the pump. it won't even stick to clean flat glass. i don't know if i can send them back to adorama since it's been 2 weeks and i don't want to send them back to the manufacturer because i don't want to pay the shipping cost :confused: total bs cause i waited over a week for the cups also.

[Mike Bowen]

so i just got my 50D a couple weeks ago and just got a 10-22 last friday to upgrade from the 12-24...just tried it out tonight farting around in front of the house, which is very bumpy. but i'm liking what i'm seeing. the 10-22 gives you a lot more on the wide end. seems to be quite a bit sharper than the 12-24 as well. can't wait to go out for a shoot with the new stuff.

these were shot at f/5.6 too so the ass end of the car isn't sharp. normally these would be stopped down quite a bit but i was losing sunlight and wanted to see how 3.2 second shutter speed would do, and it looks good.

http://imgtree.net/files/wzzclszvha3il56rn1w2.jpg

http://imgtree.net/files/hfyib2bbwsqbhbfqhdyz.jpg

[n1nj4 m0d3]

^looking good! congrats on the new gear. what's up with the yellow wire? is that your shutter release? were you pushing the car shooting at 3.5 seconds?

one of my evo buddies and a buddy with a r34 gt-r are going to be doing a mini photoshoot this tuesday around the seattle area starting at 6:30pm. you're welcome to come along if you're up for it :)

[Mike Bowen]

i was driving the car actually i didn't have anyone around to help push lol. so i'm pretty pleaseed with that, should only get better with just pushing and a better surface.

i'll let you know about tuesday, i should be able to make it but it depends on work too...where at exactly?

[n1nj4 m0d3]

not exactly sure about the location yet, but i know my buddy wants his gt-r shot at that generic alki location (boat launch).

did you use live view?! also, did you use the continuous self timer? i've been using that instead of a remote and it's been working great for me. takes up to 10 shots at a time :)

[Mike Bowen]

yes i did, makes rig shots SO much easier!

[n1nj4 m0d3]

^:lol: i knew you would say that :) live view ftw!