Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

[Quadrajet]

Excellent thread, so full of information, I was glued to it the full 170 pages. I have a quick question for those using suction cup rigs on really nice cars, especially Classic Cars.

Do you have many problems with the cups leaving rings and/or the weight of the front cup flexing the hood/roof much? I realize that the potential cup rings can be easily waxed or buffed out and that placing the cups on the edges of the hood/roof work better. I'm just curious if it has ever been an issue even using those precautions.

Thanks for the info.

[crazyjetsfan22]

just ordered a some goodies from adorama so i should have my rig by the end of the week!!

[paddymcgrath]

Just tested out the beta version of my new rig. 55mm o/d & 53mm i/d aluminium tubing divided into 1 x 2 meter and 5 x 1 meter lengths. Only had the 2 meter tube and one of the 1 meter tubes but was happy with the results, much sturdier than my old one. I do need to tension it tho ...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/3749968215_395cb5cae1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2573/3749968465_e06b409699_o.jpg

[hphoto]

I like, I like a lot. Any before shot.... :)

[romasas]

my foto :

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2476/3744369312_aa61c99348_o.jpg

[Thameth]

Where is the blue streak on the brakes coming from on that last shot?

[mananetwork]

What's the next best suction cup when the F1000 can only hold 2kg!!

Another question, has anybody bought a 3rd suction cup and used on the other side of the car (rear window) to help support the clamp furthest away from the camera?
Would that work?

[romasas]

Where is the blue streak on the brakes coming from on that last shot?

its wheel lights :) super duper tuning :)

[rigshots]

...Another question, has anybody bought a 3rd suction cup and used on the other side of the car (rear window) to help support the clamp furthest away from the camera?
Would that work?

Yes. It's quite a bit safer in that even if one of the vacuum cups did let go then you would not loose the whole rig and possibly damage the car. It's not always possible to do this with a third Avenger F1000 and Super Clamp except by angling the F1000's towards each other (because the location of the Super Clamp on the Avenger F1000 is not height adjustable so if they are not on the same plane then they won't both connect to the boom). That's why I use a custom rig instead. The problem with using the Avenger F1000's is that they are not height adjustable. It's not a problem at all unless you want to use more than 2 and then it gets a bit harder.

http://www.rigshots.com.au/images/rig101/r_045_400.jpg

http://www.rigshots.com.au/images/rig101/r_040_600.jpg

JJ

[DisrupTer911]

I like your system. it looks very very stable and secure.

[Dino F]

Yay! finished the car rig today, hooked it up and all works well.
The rig is made up from 2 Manfrotto suction cups with Manfrotto superclamps attached
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig1.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig3.jpg

The pole is 2" aluminium tubing with internal stiffening ribs, running the length of the tube.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig2.jpg

The length can be adjusted, i have 4 x 4ft lengths with smaller inserts allowing the tube to be 8,12 or 16ft long. There is another superclamp on the end with a ball head attached. This will eventually have a Manfrotto Magic arm.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig4.jpg

This is the view i get using the full 16ft length, with a 10mm lens.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig5.jpg

The pole does not bend or flex at all, there is a little bent bit at the join though, But it is quite sturdy. Absolutely rock solid at 12ft.
Will post pictures when i use it in anger,
Dean:)

[maranelloboy05]

Looking into building one of these, for the superclamps do I need to buy the stud? B&H says they come without the stud, thanks.

[Dino F]

You dont need a stud for the superclamps. The studs are built in to the suction cups, the cups just have a hole for the studs to sit in. If you are going to join 2 clamps together, then you will need a double ended stud. You will need a stud - 1/4" adapter for the ball head to attach to the end clamp.
Dean:)

[Taleb Moh'd]

Hi all,


i need to know how to attach the rig under the car?

picturs please !


Thanx

[lcrazyaznl]

Hey guys any ideas how much the emt pole is roughly at home depot.

I'm collecting funds right now .
Question
for the super clamps I don't need studs right since the suction cups from the f1000 avengers have them right?

[illuzioo]

http://www.illuzioo.extra.hu/foto/rig/teszt1020.jpg

Quick test of my under-car rig, and my new sigma 10-20... I love this lens! :P I'll maybe in problem with low cars, I thinking of to make a suction cup based too.


Dino F: like the tubes... where you find that type. How it called?

[Taleb Moh'd]

Hi all,


i need to know how to attach the rig under the car?

picturs please !


Thanx



any body can tell me ?

[Linkzi]

any body can tell me ?

Go back and review this thread and you will find multiple samples.

[GwagDesigns]

thank you! you have too many nice shots for me to just pick one :thumbup:

my brand new avenger f1000 cups don't work either. so pissed off.

a small shoot a couple days ago:

before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3645292540_ed64a6bf7e_o.jpg



That's in Renton right? I was there the day you shot that, im a manager at the theater across the street :D

[Dino F]

Dino F: like the tubes... where you find that type. How it called?

They are the poles used in manufacturing roller blinds, google your local blind manufacturer and see if they will cut you in on a deal for a bit.
Dean:)

[DisrupTer911]

Hey guys any ideas how much the emt pole is roughly at home depot.

I'm collecting funds right now .
Question
for the super clamps I don't need studs right since the suction cups from the f1000 avengers have them right?

Home Depot doesn't usually carry the aluminum pipe, only galvanized steel and you definitely don't want that. it'll be 200 #s by the time you get it all sorted.

Correct, the avenger pump cups have studs build into them either on the F1000 ball head or the F1100 post.

[rikaro]

anyone have insight for doing drifting shots?

[illuzioo]

rikaro:

I thinking on when I started to build my rig. I think it will fails because too much vibration... But, when I shoot the mustang, I'll give a try... :P

[Konstantinos]

here's a recent one

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2596/3718514911_1aa4355556_o.jpg

there's more here

http://flickr.com/itscostas

having some issues with stability though, even have a bridge wire setup to improve it, but i think it could be bc my poles are only 1.5" in diameter, and the couplings to hold them together is only around 2" long so that's probably where i get most of my flex.

[maxblack]

^^^ That shot is still great. Gotta love the circular sweep.

[StE823]

some shots i did yesterday...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2543/3779412691_d4aa882d1b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2644/3779412865_56b6b51b5d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3780220838_32b092fd6a_o.jpg

not a rigshot but u get the idea..
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/3780221618_7c33f3b40b_o.jpg

[CH@Dbee]

Home Depot doesn't usually carry the aluminum pipe, only galvanized steel and you definitely don't want that. it'll be 200 #s by the time you get it all sorted.

Correct, the avenger pump cups have studs build into them either on the F1000 ball head or the F1100 post.
i has the steel EMT :(


http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh98/chadbee123/Friends%20Cars/r1OG.jpg



http://www.chadbeephotography.com/colbys10/r5done2.jpg

[maxblack]

http://www.chadbeephotography.com/colbys10/r5done2.jpg

This is really nice.
In case you overlooked it,
you can still see your rig in the bumper reflection.
Otherwise really sweet.

[CH@Dbee]

This is really nice.
In case you overlooked it,
you can still see your rig in the bumper reflection.
Otherwise really sweet.
damn it. i had clone it and me out but went back with the history brush over the truck :confused:

[adsayer]

Hi everyone it's been a while since I last did a rig shot, thanks for the indirect tips and advice... here's one I did tonight

cheers

Ads

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2439/3783123378_daeae472af_b.jpg

[PJH]

the processing is way over the top i'm afraid :s

[johnms88]

the processing is way over the top i'm afraid :s

I disagree. I think it looks great.

[adsayer]

Cheers for both comments guys :lol: It was more to show the stability (although this be the 298234023980 you've seen one) of the typical rig rather than what the opinion was on my (lack of) photoshop skillz.
I was trying to go for one of the magazine type adverts.

Cheers! Ads

[Capita159]

I guess I'll chim in on the fun :) you guys got some GREAT shots. I still need to upguard my mast from 5/8" to 3/4" or maybe just go 1".......
Can anyone deal me in on what material to use that is strong enough to extend out maybe 8-10 feet? I am currently using 5/8" aluminum poles.
enjoy and critique welcome :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3588/3783600876_410718aa9e_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2580/3782790155_84ff9ed675_b.jpg
this one was taken under too much low light. the back part wasn't in focus

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2450/3786879717_41f6111c22_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2482/3787691604_b98a1bdaf7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/3787692224_ebf4f8eba5_b.jpg
this one was three images blended in photoshop :)
Thanks everyone in this site and my buddy Jason_F for helping me try new things with photography......

[Capita159]

here's two more,
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2675/3718242564_fe22a9fe89_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2648/3718241818_25eb3e0824_o.jpg

[hphoto]

Nice work but major sensor dust detect....

[Capita159]

I know, the 5D doesn't like it when the shutter is open for too long. What a pain but I have a new plan.....I think I am going to mount the G10 instead.

[PJH]

anyone here who uses a Peleng 8mm to do rigshots? If so, any examples?

@Capita158, i see dark corners, what lens did you use?

[Capita159]

I used a Tarmon 17-35mm on my 5D. I couldn't find any lens that is lighter than that lens and also as wide as that lens for my full frames. I am waiting for a wide angle adaptor for my G10. I want to see the results with that little camera because it is small, light weight, and has image stabalizer.

The dark corners you see are from the circular polarizer filter and the lite edges are probably from the lens hood. I am starting to hate cleaning my sensor from long exposure so that is why you see sensor dust everywhere. If these photos are for my clients, they would be perfect. But these were taken just for fun :)

8mm Peleng lens? that is crazy. I too would like to see examples.

My engineer friends have something in mind for a more solid rig. We were talking about it last night but can't understand a word they are saying; it was all foriegn languages to me. The only thing I understood was, "These rigs are done wrong and can be engineer much better. I am surprise that you even got a good shot." I hate fighting with people like that. Artist and Scienist lives in two different world and speak different languages.
I'll post pictures of it when its done.

[illuzioo]

Capita159: If you true, I'm the most luckiest people in the world... :D I'm a computer engineer, and a photographer, in one... But I think I'm not an artist, and don"t wanna be...

[Capita159]

illuzioo, maybe if you were there last night, you too can mingo with them. I just told them to leave the photography to me and just worry about the rig....lol

[lcrazyaznl]

I guess I'll chim in on the fun you guys got some GREAT shots. I still need to upguard my mast from 5/8" to 3/4" or maybe just go 1".......
Can anyone deal me in on what material to use that is strong enough to extend out maybe 8-10 feet? I am currently using 5/8" aluminum poles.
enjoy and critique welcome




this one was taken under too much low light. the back part wasn't in focus






this one was three images blended in photoshop
Thanks everyone in this site and my buddy Jason_F for helping me try new things with photography......



nice shots i saw the tsx over on the tsx forums =)

[iNfEk]

Eek! A ghost is driving my car... LOL

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3797502752_ef7f79b499_b.jpg

[DonJuanMair]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3796615707_7b8fbfb4b1_b.jpg

[johnms88]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3796615707_7b8fbfb4b1_b.jpg

EXCELLENT! Where is this taken, on a beach?

[DonJuanMair]

Thanks! I can see why you may think that but its actually on concretel its just a pink color concrete

[johnms88]

Thanks! I can see why you may think that but its actually on concretel its just a pink color concrete

Cool. I guess that black (what I thought was tire tracks in the sand) is actually just the exposure from the black tire?

Any chance of a before PP shot? Interested in seeing where you mounted the rig.

[lcrazyaznl]

I got everything in today
and yesterday

tokina 11-16 2.8
2 avenger f1000
3 super clamps
1 magic arm

12 foot emt 1.5 pole
i found couplings to connect them seems pretty sturdy.
screw lock kind of ones I think i'm going to tape them up when i'm using the rig for some extra support.

[jhelms]

Cool. I guess that black (what I thought was tire tracks in the sand) is actually just the exposure from the black tire?

Any chance of a before PP shot? Interested in seeing where you mounted the rig.


donjuan - I'm also curious... that shot looks great and the black following tire tread on the ground is cool!

[DonJuanMair]

Yeah ill post a before a bit later, that tire mark was pure luck. I saw it on the ground I said just keep going in circles and and luckily I got it

[maxblack]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3796615707_7b8fbfb4b1_b.jpg
This ranks as one of the best in this entire thread. Really nice.

[lcrazyaznl]

I suck at photoshopping the rig out so i'm going have to pick up a few lessons as i do more shots

12 foot emt pole divided into thirds and coupling at 2 ends
tokina 11-16 2.8
d300 no grip since its a bit heavy
3 manfrotto super clamps
2 f1000 avenger suction cups
1 manfrotto magic arm


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2543/3799592382_376429013d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/3798774939_afd5f45a5b_b.jpg

how the rig looks like
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/3798803195_baa12f74a3_b.jpg

[GeminiZ]

wow this thread has given me so much inspiration...i am now ready to build my own rig.

[StE823]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2476/3799283951_fd81b03489_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3800103288_db3e942576_o.jpg

[Gorveatt]

Straight out of Initial D pretty much, those two are awesome

[paddymcgrath]

Just published a blog post about a recent promotional shoot I done for Prodrift & Monster Energy drink. Some behind the scenes images and a walk-through of the shots for those that are interested !

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2487/3800791767_396b9636ab_o.jpg

More here ...
http://www.pmcgphotos.com/automotive/prodrift-monster-academy-cars.html

[DonJuanMair]

congrats paddy, its ashame the rear car isn't sharp though

[iNfEk]

paddymcgrath those are some awesome pictures on your blog.

[Mike Bowen]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3799781146_9bd964dbd2_o.jpg

[jhelms]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3799781146_9bd964dbd2_o.jpg


Mike, I love that shot but was there any way to slightly reposition the camera to show the driver's face?

[Mike Bowen]

Mike, I love that shot but was there any way to slightly reposition the camera to show the driver's face?

heh, we noticed the same thing during the shoot.

this car was pretty ridiculous to rig, not many options. :)

here is 1 more

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/3802042226_f22163cea2_o.jpg

[stuffjunkie]

This ranks as one of the best in this entire thread. Really nice.

I agree! Sunset I presume?

[DonJuanMair]

I agree! Sunset I presume?

Thanks! Yeah right at it

[lcrazyaznl]

hey guys i'm using a circular polarizer
what nd filter do you guys suggest?
not sure which to buy most of my lenses are 77mm.

[DonJuanMair]

this is what i have

http://www.amazon.com/65-066534-Neutral-Desitny-1-8-64x-Filter/dp/B00017LSCQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1249792499&sr=8-2

that along with a cp should be fine

[jejeje]

this car was pretty ridiculous to rig, not many options. :)

here is 1 more


Love that shot!

[e r y k]

most these setups cost around 350+ from what i see... can anything be built in the $150 range? i'm poor :(

[StE823]

most these setups cost around 350+ from what i see... can anything be built in the $150 range? i'm poor :(
do you want to risk your camera in a $150 range rig? :(

[rigshots]

most these setups cost around 350+ from what i see... can anything be built in the $150 range? i'm poor :(


You could probably poke a length of 2"x4" (timber) through the windows of a car and tape a camera to the end. Why can't you just rest a 2"x4" on the boot or hood of a car (with a sandbag at one end to balance the weight)? That would cost very little. Really, I think it would work if you had the PS skills needed to hide the 'rig'.

The reason it costs much more is for the security, flexibility and reliability that the extra dollars give you. If you don't need security, flexibility or reliability then use a 2"x4" and some Gaffa tape!

JJ

[hene-]

How those pinch clamps can be attached under the car? Example diy clamps or automotiverigs.com clamps?
Does anyone have a picture one of those mounted to car?

[e r y k]

can i get a condensed part list? going thru these posts willt ake a while.

do i need the avenger f1000 with the swivel attachment? or can i use the other one?

also will the avenger superclamps work?

[lcrazyaznl]

A little less than one full second for the shots before.

The shots here are done with a circular polarize stacked on a Hoya nd .6 filter nx4
Taken at 1 second - 1.5 second.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2473/3813410908_0102cc7fab_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3812596417_a2b57f2b99_b.jpg

[hphoto]

Not bad. Your picture improve alot from the last shoot.

[keviny]

This is my first proper shoot with my new rig.....critiques welcome!!..:D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/3806941555_17a6a7e3f3_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3803346565_9f7432de1f_b.jpg

[saturnin]

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/eclipsefront_web.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/eclipseback_web.jpg

[adsayer]

This is my first proper shoot with my new rig.....critiques welcome!!..:D

really nice, my only beef with these is that you've possibly taken a stationary shot of the vehicle and cloned that on to the rolling shot (the lack of blur in the reflections in the paint work gives it away). good work though!

[keviny]

really nice, my only beef with these is that you've possibly taken a stationary shot of the vehicle and cloned that on to the rolling shot (the lack of blur in the reflections in the paint work gives it away). good work though!

Actually it wasn't a composite of a static and a rolling shot. But i see what you mean by the lack of movement in the paint work. I was trying to not blur out the background too much, so there is a bit of balancing i still have to learn between the shutter speed and the amount of background movement.

Much appreciate your comments. :)

[crazyjetsfan22]

anyone interested in some poles from speed metal they sent me extra at not cost.:) Its 4 x 4ft 2inch OD and 1.75 ID
3 x 1 1.75 OD

[RedHotLama]

Oh man that would be nice. Thats like all you need for a kit and an angle piece.

[saturnin]

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/firebird_web.jpg

[StE823]

here's some new shots...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2480/3816873034_5ecda36e61_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2629/3816872890_d727a41630_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2180/3816068489_b6d535bdfd_o.jpg

[ProjektPhoto]

Yay! finished the car rig today, hooked it up and all works well.
The rig is made up from 2 Manfrotto suction cups with Manfrotto superclamps attached


The pole is 2" aluminium tubing with internal stiffening ribs, running the length of the tube.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig2.jpg

The length can be adjusted, i have 4 x 4ft lengths with smaller inserts allowing the tube to be 8,12 or 16ft long. There is another superclamp on the end with a ball head attached. This will eventually have a Manfrotto Magic arm.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig4.jpg

This is the view i get using the full 16ft length, with a 10mm lens.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/dinof/rig5.jpg

The pole does not bend or flex at all, there is a little bent bit at the join though, But it is quite sturdy. Absolutely rock solid at 12ft.
Will post pictures when i use it in anger,
Dean:)


May I ask where you got said pole.

[Dino F]

Hey!, Welcome PP.
The poles can be sourced from any roller blind manufacturer, the range from 1" wide to 4" although tha Superclamps will only hold upto 55mm.
Google for your local supplier. Good Luck
Dean:)

[jrampton]

I'm in the process of building my rig, i've sourced a pole 12ft x 2in cut into 2x 6ft sections.

I've got 3 x super clamps and 2 x Arri F1000 suction cups.

I'm thinking about cutting about a foot off one of the poles, cutting it down the middle and either sliding it inside or slipping it over the outside ?

Anyone done this ? Will it work ?

I'd really appreciate any advise before i cut the pole and cock it up :D

[zanthrax]

I've been wanting to try some rigshots for a long time.

Yesterday I came across some nice suctioncups. €1.75 for a single, €3,75 for a double. Got one of each for a €5 total, picked up up a painter's pole for €15. For the head I used part of a cheap Manfrotto Modo tripod I already had. Rigged everything together with some thick tiewraps.

Taking the photo's was the easy parts, finding flat spots that the suctioncups can hold on to was harder and photoshopping out the rig was even harder.

But I expected the result for a first time, €20 effort to be worse. The sky is a bit blown out tho. Maybe I should have used a polarising filter.

Camera is a 450D, with the 18-55 IS kit lense.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2457/3823694072_319d3f7fcf_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/3825428805_2a407fb6a9_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2480/3825386745_676ca5d1e7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3826185688_2fa5b5b5fe_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/3825386429_33a355662b_b.jpg

Thanks for all the tips and pointers in this thread!

[jeremycliff]

here's a shot that i took yesterday... quite a few layers and time went into this... still not perfect tho. i have 3 more angles from this shoot that I need to get done but haven't had time yet.

High speed police chase!!!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2598/3825549390_937e711b3b_b.jpg

[saturnin]

its over exposed... your shot.. if it wasnt it might be decent

[jejeje]

High speed police chase!!!!


You're about to become a victim of the PIT maneuver ;-)

[Hences]

Here is the first rig picture I took! Used a DIY-rig and it worked fine, but I'm going to build one with suction cups now =) How heavy is your tubes of aluminium btw? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3604884528_419f9d3a70_b.jpg

[quickster]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3808671760_1f05acf29a_o.jpg

[illuzioo]

here's a shot that i took yesterday... quite a few layers and time went into this... still not perfect tho. i have 3 more angles from this shoot that I need to get done but haven't had time yet.

High speed police chase!!!!



Very nice idea, but I also think maybe overexposed a bit. :D But who cares?! Great! XD

[Hences]

My first shot with the rig I build today =) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3836237991_c30bb305fb.jpg

[e r y k]

just curious, on the superclamps, what is that little button that pushes in on the side? does it do anything?

[crazyjetsfan22]

here is a quick edit of a rig shot from earlier tonite

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/3838577639_5729838524_b.jpg

[e r y k]

are there two kinds of magic arms? i see one with a lever locking system, and one with a dial kinda thing... where can i find the dial one?

[crazyjetsfan22]

when taking pics with my rig its seems like focus is the problem for me. Any suggestions or pointers? its on manual focus too and i set it b4 the car starts to roll

[crazyjetsfan22]

are there two kinds of magic arms? i see one with a lever locking system, and one with a dial kinda thing... where can i find the dial one?

this what you are talking about??

http://www.adorama.com/BG2929QR.html?searchinfo=majic+arm

[e r y k]

^ yeahhh dang, i didnt see that one.

i much rather have the variable friction one than the one with the locking lever...

[e r y k]

one of my pumps... takes like 5000 pumps to get suction, and one only takes 30. :(

[idobref]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2578/3840875511_6e4ed360fc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3841473738_6ab5357ced_b.jpg

[marcos camargo]

My first shot with the rig I build today =) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3836237991_c30bb305fb.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2578/3840875511_6e4ed360fc_b.jpg



Hi Hences and idobref,
the photos above are an inspiration for me!
I write from Brazil and here is difficult to talk about rig photos with others photographers. I'm new in the rig photos and I need improve my rig set-up. I'm curious about yours set-up... which lens, which the length of the tube?

[DisrupTer911]

^ yeahhh dang, i didnt see that one.

i much rather have the variable friction one than the one with the locking lever...

the locking lever one is quite annoying. the friction knob is 1000x easier to operate.

one of my pumps... takes like 5000 pumps to get suction, and one only takes 30.

call manfrotto and get a replacement asap. you don't want it failing on you while mounted to a car

[e r y k]

oh well... i guess ill have to live w/ the locking lever for now -.-

it seems like i can dissassemble it with a few allen keys and possibly install a knob in its place?

[flosho]

Second ever decent rig shot.. Built a cheap harbor freight/menards rig.

These are shot with 10' EMT pole, HF suction cups, sony a200 with kit lens(18-70) at 18mm.

Have to get some ND filters so I can shoot earlier in the day instead of having about a 30 minute window. This picture was taken around 10pm I believe.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs146.snc/5412_572840173738_219700083_33758380_4598147_n.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/flosho924/rig1.jpg

[CliffordPhotography]

What are you guys using to fire the camera?

[saturnin]

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=canon+shutter+release&_sacat=See-All-Categories

[flosho]

10 second timer here ;)

[crazyjetsfan22]

here is one from last nite!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/3843121287_0338febd77_b.jpg

[saturnin]

from today
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/xterra_web.jpg
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/xtera2_web.jpg
i really need to clean my sensor.. its bloody dirty

[ddave]

from today


i really need to clean my sensor.. its bloody dirty

Love the second one :)

[siddr20]

saturnin - WOW NICE!!

[quickster]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3847221339_70f49161e0_o.jpg

[saturnin]

so i've been shooting with a full frame, but i'm thinking of switching to a crop body(due to its weight) and also so i can get different glass.

i'm considering 50D and Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM

i've read a few reviews on the 10-20mm and it gets a 8.67 for image quality
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/171/cat/31

is there any other glass that is this wide that gets a decent image quality, the widest that the canon has is 14mm(full frame) but its fairly pricey.


canon Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM gets a 8.91
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/135/cat/11

[e r y k]

how long are your booms? mines 12 ft, and i feel like its not long enough?

i want it longer, but im afraid its just gonna get bouncy... it already is at 12 ft. but surprisingly the pics are still sharp.

[crazyjetsfan22]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3847221339_70f49161e0_o.jpg


haha last nite i did some rig shots of my friends red crx!

[DonJuanMair]

Saturnin, the tokina 11-16 is supposed to be the sharpest uwa for a crop body. I have the sigma too and I'm happy with the results.

[saturnin]

i got the 12-24 sigma and i'm not happy with it...

my other option was the 14mm canon but thats super expensive.... thats why i considered just getting a crop with either the canon or sigma wides..but i didnt realize the tokina was getting good results... on slr gear the canon 10-22 got a better review
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/135/cat/11

the tokina got
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1152/cat/33

so its not as good and the price difference is really small

still up in the air... ..i'd rather get the canon i think.. i gotta look for some used ones...

[DonJuanMair]

oh here the review says otherwise

http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/379-tokina_1116_28_canon

i have the sigma, i couldnt justify the extra money for f2.8

[saturnin]

yah iguess depends where u go to get your review... right now i'm looking for used 40D body

[DonJuanMair]

ah that sucks my friend just sold one, immaculate as well.
You know the weight difference between a 40d and full frame bodies isnt that much though

[saturnin]

that might be the case, but good glas for a FF is expensive... next glass i'm looking into is the 14mm canon. I dont know of any other wide glass either prime or zoom for a FF that is decent.

for the price of that glass(14mm canon) i can get a crop body and wider glass lol(10 -20sigma/canon)

thats where my dilema is be..lol

[DonJuanMair]

whats your current wide lens on ff?

[saturnin]

12-24sigma and i'm not happy with the softness, i used to shoot a 15mm fisheye(sigma) on the ff and it was super sharp...

[DonJuanMair]

im going through the opposite situation your in, i am about to upgrade bodies to the 5D mkII and i have the 17-40L i used on my friends here Idobref and he got good results but im debating whether to keep the xsi and the Sigma 10-20 because iget pretty good results from that anyway and like you say the weight issue

[saturnin]

yah man.. hahaahahahahaha... too funny.. i wouldnt bother getting a full frame for car stuff unless you are shooting from another vehicle.. and then you can get away with using 17-40 etc. I mainly shoot with the rig right, and with a FF i am limited by the lenses. So thats why i want go back to crop, i used to have a 30D but i sold it to upgrade to FF, i love my FF and wouldnt sell it. I just need a crop for this car stuff for the fact that its light and better wider glass.

I wouldnt upgrade to a FF if i were you for car stuff, upgrade to FF for other photography. Car stuff get a 40D, and a 10-20 and u are set. :D

[DonJuanMair]

yeah thats what i was thinking, if eventually i could get a nice condition used 40D or even a 50D i will and use that as a second body

[lcrazyaznl]

anyone have problems with their magic arm not being able to lock?

[BIGTUFFGUY]

yah man.. hahaahahahahaha... too funny.. i wouldnt bother getting a full frame for car stuff unless you are shooting from another vehicle.. and then you can get away with using 17-40 etc. I mainly shoot with the rig right, and with a FF i am limited by the lenses. So thats why i want go back to crop, i used to have a 30D but i sold it to upgrade to FF, i love my FF and wouldnt sell it. I just need a crop for this car stuff for the fact that its light and better wider glass.

I wouldnt upgrade to a FF if i were you for car stuff, upgrade to FF for other photography. Car stuff get a 40D, and a 10-20 and u are set. :D

correct me if I'm wrong, but your reply makes very little sense. You want to go back to a crop for a 10mm lens, when you realize that you're essentially getting a 16mm. instead of buying a body and the 10-20(22) why not just get the 16-35. It's faster and sharper.

additionally you'll be able to use the 12-24 and 14mm to their full potential on a FF body.
The 5D is a fantastic body for automotive photography. If you're worried about weight it's because you haven't made a good enough rig. I've seen people hanging 1D bodies and their images were as sharp as a tack.
I've seen some of your shots, and they are really good, so i don't know what the problem is.

[GenuineRolla]

Here's a shot from last night. First time ever shooting one and editing.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3502/3858519204_539a5eb2a4_b.jpg

[saturnin]

16-35 is not wide enough unless you have a 16foot pole on a FF(wich i dont, mine is 12feet - ya i can attach another pole to it but it just bends so much..yada yada yada- everything together with the arm and body and glass is super heavy), and 12-24sigma is soft(hence not good), the only other is the canon 14mm but like i said earlier its super expensive and not sure if i can justify it. For that rpice i can get a crop with a 10 that will be sharp.

In my mind a crop with a wide like a 10 shoul be fine and be able to get the whole car in the pic kinda like i'm getting now with the 12-24, am i wrong?

glad you enjoyed my shots, i am very unsatisfied with the 12-24sigma, yah looks sharp but not sharp enough for me as i can tell the problems with it. I dont mind spending the time in post doing it up but when it comes out of the camera below my expectations its not a good thing. I was more satisfied with my 15mm sigma fisheye when i had it, it was sharp as hell. I got rid of it because it was a fish, got old fast.


correct me if I'm wrong, but your reply makes very little sense. You want to go back to a crop for a 10mm lens, when you realize that you're essentially getting a 16mm. instead of buying a body and the 10-20(22) why not just get the 16-35. It's faster and sharper.

additionally you'll be able to use the 12-24 and 14mm to their full potential on a FF body.
The 5D is a fantastic body for automotive photography. If you're worried about weight it's because you haven't made a good enough rig. I've seen people hanging 1D bodies and their images were as sharp as a tack.
I've seen some of your shots, and they are really good, so i don't know what the problem is.

[RedHotLama]

A crop with a 10 is the same as a FF with a 16. You make no sense.

[e r y k]

I WANT A LONGAR BOOM.

any ideas w/o making everything wobbly?

[DonJuanMair]

10mm x 1.6 crop factor = 16mm dude. 16mm on a full frame is 10mm equivalent on a crop

[GenuineRolla]

When I did my first shots last night, we did 25 second exposures...the camera wobbled a good bit, but the image still came out crystal clear and sharp.

[e r y k]

When I did my first shots last night, we did 25 second exposures...the camera wobbled a good bit, but the image still came out crystal clear and sharp.

how long is your boom? mines like 12 ft :S

[saturnin]

Ok, so it comes down to the fact that there is no good sharp wide glass for FF i'm talking about 14mm and under(ive only read reviews that say that 14mm is good) but thats what was said about the 12-24sigma(that its good). So unless i get a longer pole and or a 14mm i'm stuck with what i have, lol. thats it

[Zilly]

Ok, so it comes down to the fact that there is no good sharp wide glass for FF i'm talking about 14mm and under(ive only read reviews that say that 14mm is good) but thats what was said about the 12-24sigma(that its good). So unless i get a longer pole and or a 14mm i'm stuck with what i have, lol. thats it

you do know that the 14mm is partly fish eye and will probably look pants. If 16mm on a ff isnt wide enough you have issues in places other than your glass

of i you want the fish eye effect I think a sigma 10mm will fit a ff just then crop out the dead space

[saturnin]

the 14mm isnt fisheye unless they fail to mention it in the lens descripton, the 15mm canon is fisheye

yah my issue is i would like to work with a 12foot rig and not a 15ft rig, yes i know a 16-35 will work with a 15ft rig...but i'm trying to minimize the lenght and weight, so ya that my issue. :)

point is, what i have works great, i just want it to work even better.

[Zilly]

my bad its the sigma!

being that wide its still gunna balloon like a bugger at the edges heck the 16mm does

[GenuineRolla]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3860153070_9a1b83044b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/3859367871_c6a837e9b1_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2501/3859369193_447ca5bdde_b.jpg

[GenuineRolla]

how long is your boom? mines like 12 ft :S
We actually used a wal-mart painters pole which I think, we had extended to 12-14 feet.

[hphoto]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3461/3860153070_9a1b83044b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/3859367871_c6a837e9b1_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2501/3859369193_447ca5bdde_b.jpg


Nice set you have here. Any filters use in the works? I need to get going with this rig stuff. Its just collecting dust at the moment in the garage.

[bReed]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/3858679666_fa9f477ac7.jpg

[johnms88]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/3858679666_fa9f477ac7.jpg

Ummmmmmm....is this a rig shot? If so, why all the photoshopping?

[xishnik]

so i looked through about 30 different pages and didnt see any motorcycle shots. anyone ever rig a 2 wheeler? the only other vehicle i saw was the golf cart.

Here is one of my rig shots from a motorcycle. Mine is the only one I have seen on this forum of the whole bike, not too common.

here is a prove of concept shot for my bike rig... too much shake in this one, but that is because it isn't even connected to the bike, just hangs off the ventura rack mount. i used a cheap boom pipe with a swirrle mount at one end and a flash mount at the other.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/3852171768_3b0ee41107.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gkutas/3852171768/)

dwnhillskater: would be interesting to know how you mounted yours. I'm having some trouble finding a way of doing side shot without mounting the rig to rider.

GK

[yuriyo923]

I'm gonna lookin into doing this!

[bReed]

I am going to put my avenger cups up for sale if anyone is looking for some.

[DonJuanMair]

a couple from a recent shoot

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2454/3867976241_4e1187df81_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/3868755826_dbe9317de8_o.jpg

the rest of the shoot can be found here

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=745049

[saturnin]

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/lenzintruck1_web.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/ptcruiserA_web.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/ptcruiserc_web.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/anvilpictures/Autos/ptcruiserd_web.jpg

[Cole_Schmitt]

Would the Canon 17-55mm be good enough for rig shots? Or should I invest in the Tokina 11-16mm (looking to buy it shortly anyways, but not wanting to if I have to spend another $400 on a rig).