Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

[DEfinitivecars]

Took some new ones...

http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/e92m3/final/rig_5.jpg

http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/e92m3/final/rig_4.jpg

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[thebishopp]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/398657-REG/Avenger_C4469_C4469_MP_Coupler_with.html

Thanks guys, for some reason when I searched for "avenger" in bh I didn't find them, must of overlooked it.

[Atiyeh]

OK, so I'm looking for the best place online to source the boom. I've read 90+ pages of this thread and still am not sure about it...

Thanks for any advice :)

[hphoto]

OK, so I'm looking for the best place online to source the boom. I've read 90+ pages of this thread and still am not sure about it...

Thanks for any advice :)


http://www.speedymetals.com

[Atiyeh]

http://www.speedymetals.com

Thanks :)

[gixxer_kidd]

http://www.speedymetals.com

I actually have some new poles from them that I ordered but never got around to using. If someone wants to take them off my hands send me a PM. I paid $94 for them and will let it go for $80.

Main poles:
2" OD x 1.750" ID x .125" Wall Tube 6061-T6 Aluminum-48" - 4 pieces

Connecting tubes:
1-3/4" OD x 1.250" ID x .250" Wall Tube 6061-T6 Aluminum-12" - 3 pieces

[MRXPhotography]

ok sorry completly noob question here about rigs because the very few rolling shots ive taken have all been done by hand... how do you know how to set the settings for the shot and do yall use a remote to take the shots??

and i like all these DIY rigs... but where could i look up some to purchase premade?

[DutchOven]

check it out, someone decided to use pictures from this thread for a blog post

http://blog.defgrip.net/2009/11/automotive-rigs/#more-7868

mine was one of them :D

[jeremycliff]

one from yesterday's shoot... probably one of my favorite ones. reflection is real, not PS'd in.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/4148283591_fde98f79a9_b.jpg

[StE823]

ok few more, but i heard it's gonna snow next week here in toronto..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2756/4103757358_44cf1c63f7_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4150793873_02dd585604_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2494/4150793689_04213bd150_o.jpg

[The Hard Way]

one from yesterday's shoot... probably one of my favorite ones. reflection is real, not PS'd in.

Sweet. I love 'Vettes, especially of the Z06 variety!

[Ken Cravillion]

that Vette is sick!

[Muggsy1776]

http://www.speedymetals.com

Were they able to make connectors for you to join the segments?

[hphoto]

Were they able to make connectors for you to join the segments?

Not sure what kind of connectors you want but, just order the ID of the boom to connect it together then drill holes in the pole to the connectors to connect them. Look at previous post and you'll know what I mean. Hope that helps.

[DutchOven]

I found some close-up pics of the rig on automotiverigs.com. hope this helps <_<

http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/4046611660/in/pool-361841@N25/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/4046611902/in/pool-361841@N25/

[Muggsy1776]

Not sure what kind of connectors you want but, just order the ID of the boom to connect it together then drill holes in the pole to the connectors to connect them. Look at previous post and you'll know what I mean. Hope that helps.

Sorry- my mind was thinking further ahead than my fingers- what I meant was the pole would be in sections, and the sections would be joined together to form the one large pole. My question was: how would you join the sections and what was used to connect them. I would assume a smaller pipe inside the large pole and drill holes and bolt them together, or were they able to fabricate a connector for you (like a sleeve)?

[RadAL]

on the corvette shot, shame you didn't get all the roof in the reflection, that would have made it even better... but its a sweet shot!

[richwig83]

Hi... newbie here! Heres my Rig...



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/4045868189_5c499b5673.jpg
Parts from Automotiverigs.com

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/4045869449_4953ccc72a.jpg
Clamp fitted to the car

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2598/4110829060_de302b45da_o.jpg
Machined connectors

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4133224255_3aa77bbd58.jpg
How they fit together

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4134179516_e938f5d8b3.jpg
Machined joint section

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2579/4136604029_c10a0cd452.jpg
Complete Rig

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4137576365_f8e0eef862.jpg
First test shot

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/4150781612_3cc74366d7.jpg
Shot i took yesterday on VERY bumpy ground!!

let me know what you guys think... im still contemplating buying some suction cups but ive read that sometimes they can mar the paintwork!!


Rich

[JFP-Photography]

Well I just read through 212 pages....Time to go shopping for rig parts...

[kona77]

Well I just read through 212 pages....Time to go shopping for rig parts...
Good job, there will be a surprise test in 1 hour.:lol:

[MaxSteel]

I'm using 10' of 3/4 inch electrical conduit right now but it is too bouncy for my liking. Perhaps I'll look into thicker EMT tubing. Do the cable supports really help at keeping the pole from bouncing?

Anyway, here's an decent shot I got with my rig... out of 30 blurring ones.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2635/4157154766_b71ae76615_b.jpg

[jonnikray]

These are a couple of shots I did yesterday with my newly modified rig. Please let me know what you like and what I can work on. (With the exception of sensor dust spots) :-)

In addition, if you are interested in seeing more of these shots and some of the other automotive shots I have done, please fell free to check me out at www.facebook.com/jonathanrayphotography

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/4161807691_2dcb5c8d2b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2660/4163040411_c9152528db_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2774/4163040431_8d2ce8a6c0_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2546/4163040443_794cf04b0a_b.jpg

[Radders]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2546/4163040443_794cf04b0a_b.jpg

You missed the shadow.... :p

[jonnikray]

You missed the shadow.... :p

Yes I most certainly did... DOH!!! :p Thanks.

[z3speed4me]

Too bad winter is here.... I really wanna try this out again with some new rig parts I got and the 7D! Car is in hibernation mode :)

Gotta find some of my subaru buddies to try out some snow shots, which I have a feeling might be a pain to get composed correctly.

[fatalimage]

here's my setup from last year on my car, 14ft of length. a bit bouncy, but no blurred pix.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/yankiedoodle/rig3.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/yankiedoodle/rig2.jpg

[hphoto]

here's my setup from last year on my car, 14ft of length. a bit bouncy, but no blurred pix.






Diameter of the boom and any pictures of the connector?

[Radders]

Yes I most certainly did... DOH!!! :p Thanks.

No problem :p

Love the car btw!:mrgreen:

[quickster]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/4173197493_1c2d25d965_o.jpg

[MaxSteel]

Nice Supra fatalimage. Do we get to see any shots taken using the rig?

[fatalimage]

Nice Supra fatalimage. Do we get to see any shots taken using the rig?

I'll see if I can dig 'em up, I know I lost some pictures due to a harddrive failure, plus the shots weren't the best. i might be out this weekend and use it again, will post up pics.

hphoto: i'll take some pictures of the boom and post it up. to explain it first, i used two conduit pipes, 10ft each and cut it down to 7ft, connected with the threaded connectors. suction cups has U bolts on it to hold the pipe. then i have a shutter release cable which i extended with extra wiring from the camera, through the pipe, to me inside the car.

[pullerknabe]

After some first - very disappointing - tests with suction caps, i recently placed orders for the AR screw mounting kit and 20ft 1.5inch aluminum pipe. I will use 5ft under the car and a 15ft boom. Can't wait to get all things together. Plus, i already recieved a manfrotto magic arm and a ND8 filter.

Sums up to: 230$

But i am shure it will be worth every penny! :mrgreen:

[richwig83]

1.5inch wont be thick enough! You need 2" or 50mm overall diameter!!

[pullerknabe]

1.5inch wont be thick enough! You need 2" or 50mm overall diameter!!

That is not in general correct. It depends very much on the bending stiffness of the pipe. And the overall diameter is not the only factor for that ;)

I made some tests before buying the pipe and it was very promising (pushing the car, not driving).

Can't wait to put everything together...

[richwig83]

OK... but the AR rig clamps are designed for 2" tubing so i would have thought youd have a job making the 1.5" tubing grip!!

[quickster]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2549/4175020596_331aab4bfd_o.jpg

[richwig83]

Very nice quickster!!

[quickster]

thanks rich

[DonJuanMair]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2700/4156199592_9cba20645e_o.jpg

[jeremycliff]

^^^ Very nice, i'd love to see that but taking a corner during the rig shot.

here's another one i finished from my batman shoot.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4181886189_58604d5b8f_b.jpg

[MaxSteel]

Is anyone doing anything to protect their cam in the even of a suction cup failing? I was thinking of just having something stick out lower than the cam to take the initial impact.

[hphoto]

Is anyone doing anything to protect their cam in the even of a suction cup failing? I was thinking of just having something stick out lower than the cam to take the initial impact.

Yeah stay close to in case of suction cup failing, if your pushing your car. 'Knock on wood'

[jonnikray]

Here is a redo of the GTR Shot. Think this is a better version

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/4161807691_925255c52f_b.jpg

[aewon]

i like the darker feel.
but i'm not sure about the shadows and the rear looks a lil blown out on my screen.

[Marcus Schwanitz]

Gibr automotiverigs.com it yet? for I have sent an email from a time but as yet received no answer. someone has ahung whether it is as yet?
Sorry for my bad englisch:oops:

[pullerknabe]

Gibr automotiverigs.com it yet? for I have sent an email from a time but as yet received no answer. someone has ahung whether it is as yet?
Sorry for my bad englisch:oops:

I think i have Ahnung was Du meinst :-)

Stay tuned. They will answer. My last request was answered 7 days later but that's fine.

[Marcus Schwanitz]

hi pullerknabe. thanks for your comment.
my request to automotiverigs.com was about 3 weeks ago.
have anybody ever ordered this kind of rig in europe ?
maybe this customer can tell me how long he waited for his order?
iam impatient to ordering the rig and would having it so fast as it gets :-)

@pullerknabe: are you german?

[richwig83]

Marcus.. my car clamps from AR.com came in about 7 working days!

[PerFormA]

hi, my name David, from Indonesia, I'm just wan to share my first rig...
i use 50D with 18-55 is

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/david_mahajaya/My%20Photo/Novaakbar.jpg

comment are welcome, sorry if the photo is worst...

[PerFormA]

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/david_mahajaya/My%20Photo/audi1.jpg

maybe this photo it's to dark...

[TilenLicen]

missing sharpness and contrast

[PerFormA]

yup when i shot audi, the custom rig it's not really perfect....

[Lummie]

Took this shot last night. I didn't realize until afterwards that my ISO was set too high so I couldn't correct it as much as I'd like. So I kept it dark and moody. The rig was bouncing around a little too much too.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4236774074_cc187f5f8b_o.jpg

[DEfinitivecars]

Nice M lummie, where you at? Are you on M3post.com?

D

[quickster]

Took this shot last night. I didn't realize until afterwards that my ISO was set too high so I couldn't correct it as much as I'd like. So I kept it dark and moody. The rig was bouncing around a little too much too.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4236774074_cc187f5f8b_o.jpg

i wish theyd fix the road there.

[jedrak]

I have been googling for information about rigs and this thread is one of the most popular. After I've spent a few days reading all the 214 pages, I realized that somehow all rig shots were taken with Canon cameras. My initial concern was that somehow other cameras are not suitable for these photos. Only later I noticed that the thread is located on a Canon forum, LOL

Here are some questions. Does anybody use DIY rigs together with heavy cameras, like the Canon 1D series. I have a Nikon D3 and I am concerned about the weight of the equipment. I fear that it could cause a lot of bouncing. It really weighs a lot when I try to lift a 4 meter pole with the camera on the other end.

[TW0R]

As long as you dont move the car too fast, it shouldnt bounce.

[jedrak]

Oh and one more thing. Has anybody tested the suction cups in cold temperatures? Currently it's -5*C and I don't know if the rubber is flexible enough. On one hand I don't want to wait a few months before I can take the first photo but on the other hand I don't want to smash my camera on the ground.

[PerFormA]

if the road bump, the car must be push, the result it's not really bounce and you can hold you camera during shot..hopefully will help

[PerFormA]

Took this shot last night. I didn't realize until afterwards that my ISO was set too high so I couldn't correct it as much as I'd like. So I kept it dark and moody. The rig was bouncing around a little too much too.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4236774074_cc187f5f8b_o.jpg

like your head lamp!! nice

[Taleb Moh'd]

my first try

http://i50.tinypic.com/245do48.jpg

[RedlinePhotography_2009]

Does anyone have a list of websites wher ei can buy a rig in australia?

Cheers

[Jay Jay]

My 3rd attempt a few months ago.

http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1257083650-erics-civic-09-1678.jpg
http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1257083689-erics-civic-09-1723.jpg
http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1257083649-erics-civic-09-1655.jpg
http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1258048767-scotts-teg01.jpg
http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1258048768-scotts-teg02.jpg
http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1258048768-scotts-teg03.jpg

[DEfinitivecars]

Bouncy!

[Mark1]

http://photography.jjermacans.com/gallery/images/1257083650-erics-civic-09-1678.jpg







Not sure why, but I really like this one.

[PerFormA]

really like it the last one.....cool!!

[Jay Jay]

Bouncy!

Yeah, some of the longer exposed ones bouced too much. I fixed this with problem with new aluminum center post.

Not sure why, but I really like this one.

Thanks, that is my favorite as well.

[zelseman]

I think I saw those on ef-tuner.com. Shots look good. So does the car.

[khfoto.no]

WOW how many great shots ! Throw in one of mine too :)

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae130/khfoto/IMG_3791-900.jpg

[iNfEk]

it's been a while since I've used my rig. here's two from today

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4259158038_1d0a7a6afe_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4258502897_ba765ae8f0_b.jpg

[sunten1]

^^^ This pictures would be better if there wasn't a fence directly behind it...

[iNfEk]

Thanks, I'll ATTEMPT to take it out and repost it

[DEfinitivecars]

Here are a few I took yesterday.

http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/rigshots/328farm.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/rigshots/328farm2.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/rigshots/328farm3.jpg

D

[Supra_t]

Hey guys,

I'm new here and very interested in rigging. I'm in Australia and finding it hard to find a local source for the materials. I'm a litte worried about my camera hanging off something like this so I've been trying to think of a 'safety net' basically.

I was planning on going the suction cup version and came up with an idea. As most of the weight is on the end cup and the cup in between is basically a pivot. Using a small diameter steel cable with a hook on one end and a quick lock adjustment with a loop on the other end, the hook can be attatched somewhere under the hood or boot then with the cable coming out between the panel gap shut the boot/hood. You could then simply adjust the length of the cable as needed then loop over the end of your rig (oppsite your cam), thought i'd add this as it would provide a simple safety net and some piece of mind for guys with suction rigs.

[khfoto.no]

From last summer...

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae130/khfoto/IMG_3802-900bw.jpg?t=1263132138

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae130/khfoto/IMG_1458-900.jpg?t=1263132233

[DEfinitivecars]

That last one is sick!!!!!

[fotomast]

This is a great thread and some amazing talent out there! ;)

One question: I know most if not all these pictures are being done with DSLR's, but has anyone done any with a G10?

This is the only Canon I own at the moment, but it's a great camera and capable of good things...

[Formula21]

Hey guys, fairly new photographer here, and I wont lie I'm a Nikon user, but I'm looking to build an automotive rig and this is prob the biggest source of info I've yet found for DYI rigs. and I've been getting the run around on this issue and I have a few problems.
1st of all this is what I'm decided on.

2 Avenger F1000 Suction Cups (or 2 Fat Gecko Suction cup if I cant get the F1000s)
Manfrotto Super Clamps
Manfrotto Magic Arm

Now, my issue is the boom, I'm trying to use this suppler to avoid shipping cost since my budget is limited https://www.metalsupermarkets.com/MSC-Home.aspx

Now here are my issues initially I was looking at aluminum piping with a total length of 12ft with 40 schedule the problem with this, is that its weight was 12lbs and the cups state they can only handle 4lbs each so I decided to avoid that.

So then I turned to aluminum tubing, that seemed to be more like what I was seeing in photographs of rigs, so I said ok that's great I found what I need.

But here is my problem.

The grade is only 6061T6 and someone said they suspect it will be way to soft, widest wall thickness I can get from them is 0.125".

So im quite lost with what it is I should do needless to say I want to protect my gear. but as of now I only have $265...maybe $365 in a few weeks but I dont know if I can get that money.

So right now my main concerns are weight due to the F1000s apparently only being able to support 4lbs each

and my Boom being to flexible,

Again im sure these issues are here but the thread is at least over 200pages and I have no clue where I could find this info in here so I thank anyone who helps me alot cause im going absolutely insane over this.

Edit: Im also looking to get a multi-section thing like ..say 3 pipes of 3ish feet or something to that extent so I can easily get it in cars since I don't have my own and 'm in quite a few sports coupes, and I"m struggling with how to connect them. I've heard 2 1.5" Compression Couplers for Piping &
2 Piping Locking Clamps I don't know what these items are, was intending to ask at a hardware store when I get whatever piping I want in hopes they can help me.

[cinder3d]

Great Thread! Good read and loads of great talent as mentioned!
I have started a undercar rig, mutch the same like the automotiverigs.com rig. Got my alu and the rest of the suff but still no magnets. Found these and was woundering what you guys think about them!

http://www.magnet-shop.net/Haken/Oesenmagnete/Oesenmagnete/Oesenmagnet-%D8-75-mm-haelt-160-kg::375.html

Alex. :lol:

[iNfEk]

ok finally got around to trying to remove the fence... how's this?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4268539120_41263cc70e_b.jpg

[Lummie]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4267832705_9b9484b579_o.jpg

[khfoto.no]

Cool shot! A bit much grain?

[Lummie]

Cool shot! A bit much grain?

Yeah I agree it's a bit grainy.

[Lucian.B]

Hi there, glad to be here, i'm trying to improve my rig setup, it's a little bit bouncy at the moment, hopefully some steel strings will solve the problem, at least until i'll get some magnets.

Please don't throw rocks on me, because i have a Nikon :D

This is the first shot i took with my car, the pipe was 2meters long
(sorry about that dust on my sensor)
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2009/364/4/f/rollin___1300_by_LKS1988.jpg

Here the pipe was 4 meters long
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/010/3/c/3c8418fd8c1f58afcb389c38f05a40e2.jpg

Boths photos are taken with the 18-135mm

[PerFormA]

cool shot....the pipe 4 meter and the lens 18?
u have a suction rig or magnet rig?

[Lucian.B]

cool shot....the pipe 4 meter and the lens 18?
u have a suction rig or magnet rig?

Thanks, it's a suction cup setup for now. I'm waiting for the magnets now.

This is how it looks
(sorry for the photo quality, it's phone made)

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/816/dsc00385u.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6828/dsc00384m.jpg

[MRXPhotography]

Hi there, glad to be here, i'm trying to improve my rig setup, it's a little bit bouncy at the moment, hopefully some steel strings will solve the problem, at least until i'll get some magnets.

Please don't throw rocks on me, because i have a Nikon :D

Boths photos are taken with the 18-135mm

your on deviantart are you not?? i thought i reconized the BMW turbo ??

ok i have a big question for alot of you with small DD's.... how do you transport your rig or what did you do pole wise to fix the transportation issue lol

[iNfEk]

I cut my 16ft pole into 4ft sections

[Lucian.B]

Yes MRXPhotography, i'm on deviantART too :) .

My rig fits perfectly in my car (not in the trunk:) ), so it''s not a big problem transporting those 2m long pipes.
I didn't want to cut that in so many sections, because i hate those joints, they bounce.. :(

[PerFormA]

Thanks, it's a suction cup setup for now. I'm waiting for the magnets now.

This is how it looks
(sorry for the photo quality, it's phone made)

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/816/dsc00385u.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6828/dsc00384m.jpg

thanks to share your rig... it's nice n long rig. cool!!

[turboale]

[QUOTE=Lucian.B;9382925]Thanks, it's a suction cup setup for now. I'm waiting for the magnets now.

This is how it looks
(sorry for the photo quality, it's phone made)

First off, I can't help but cringe at the fact that your putting your suction cups down on the ground. You have to keep those totally clean or your going to scratch paint. It also will lead to premature failure of the cups. 2ndly, do you have a battery grip on your camera? The key to clean shots is to keep weight down, ESPECIALLY at the tip. 1lb = 10+ at the tip, every oz counts so take that battery grip off and save some size/weight.

[Lucian.B]

[QUOTE=Lucian.B;9382925]Thanks, it's a suction cup setup for now. I'm waiting for the magnets now.

This is how it looks
(sorry for the photo quality, it's phone made)

First off, I can't help but cringe at the fact that your putting your suction cups down on the ground. You have to keep those totally clean or your going to scratch paint. It also will lead to premature failure of the cups. 2ndly, do you have a battery grip on your camera? The key to clean shots is to keep weight down, ESPECIALLY at the tip. 1lb = 10+ at the tip, every oz counts so take that battery grip off and save some size/weight.

Thanks for your adivces, i usually take care with the suction cups, and wipe them before applying to the car.
You're right with the weight, I'll try some shots with the grip off the camera.

[MRXPhotography]

Yes MRXPhotography, i'm on deviantART too :) .

My rig fits perfectly in my car (not in the trunk:) ), so it''s not a big problem transporting those 2m long pipes.
I didn't want to cut that in so many sections, because i hate those joints, they bounce.. :(


lucian look me up on DA ... its Metalroach on there ... im on the Automotive group ur in also thats where i saw the photo ...

2m? thats what lol im in america lol and i drive a toyota tercel as a dd ... bout the same size as a civic... and i dont have folding rear seats... so what would be the optimum size for the poles ???

[StretchSTI]

Whats the size and wall thickness on the pipes you guys are running for your booms? I am going to run a suction cup rig and want to try and keep the wall thickness as thin as possible to save weight.

[quickster]

heres the newest one.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4277385662_8999c2e488_b.jpg

[synth19]

How much does your rubing all weigh? I looked at four 4' aluminum poles @ 2" diameter, about 30 lbs! Too heavy!

[Formula21]

Ya that's the big issues I'm having you guys don't want actual piping, but tubing, the only problem with this is im afraid of it being to soft and bending a fair bit with the camera on it, I do plan on using a cable support but ya.

[richwig83]

How much does your rubing all weigh? I looked at four 4' aluminum poles @ 2" diameter, about 30 lbs! Too heavy!

Get tubing with a wall thickness od about 1.5mm and it should still be fairly stable and a LOT lighter!

[jdefoor]

I purchase three 4' lengths of this tubing last week:

http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_553.html

It's used for roller shades and is quite a bit lighter than the 2" pipe.

[synth19]

Ya that's the big issues I'm having you guys don't want actual piping, but tubing, the only problem with this is im afraid of it being to soft and bending a fair bit with the camera on it, I do plan on using a cable support but ya.

the problem is the suction cups can only hold so much weight.

[Formula21]

Ya i know but tubing is ALOT lighter then piping, alot of people say they use piping for there rig, but all the ones I've looked at its tubing not piping, the tubing wall is WAY thinner then the piping wall.

[DisrupTer911]

I purchase three 4' lengths of this tubing last week:

http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_553.html

It's used for roller shades and is quite a bit lighter than the 2" pipe.

any setup shots with camera attached to it?

[jdefoor]

Not yet. I'm having a local aluminum welder fabricate some "couplings" out of some short 2" Schedule 40 pipe right now. I'll post a few shots when it's ready.

[richwig83]

That roller blind tubing looks excellent.... nice and reinforced!!

[z3speed4me]

Yea I need to find thinner tubing myself sometime... Really dont need the wall thickness I currently have, it's too much weight for no reason.

Random question, guys that attach their suction cups to windows, are you ever scared that weight of the rig would pull or pop out the window??? It really doesn't take that much pressure to pull / push out a front / rear window on most cars, so just kinda wondering.

[jdefoor]

I've also wondered about this comment:

Modern windscreens are made from laminated glass and are generally quite strong whilst old windscreens are made from tempered glass which can shatter under extreme loads. Full car rigs should never be fitted to tempered glass however light weight tripod based rigs, where possibly only one leg is attached to the windscreen, exert relatively little force so are relatively safe.

On this site:

http://www.rigshots.com.au/howto1.htm

Will the tempered glass shatter? I was also wondering about kit cars like the Shelby Cobra, which doesn't have many flat surfaces to attach a 6" cup to.

[lcrazyaznl]

2ides car

some new shots in a parking garage. Got some neat bleeding with the overexposed light coming in.

I'm using a d300
11-16 tokina 2.8
10ft 1.5 emt
I drilled a hole at each of the pole to use a cable tie down to hold it nice and sturdy in the couplings.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4268184664_b14ef0ca81.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4290662969_fc5e81a069.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4290664143_9e8b977dfb.jpg

[hphoto]

2ides car


10ft 1.5 emt
I drilled a hole at each of the pole to use a cable tie down to hold it nice and sturdy in the couplings.



Picture please of the rig it self.

[lcrazyaznl]

I don't have a shot of the recent rig modifcations but this how it looks like.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2498/3801900077_5f8b3186db_b.jpg

I basically drilled a hole in each end and used a cable tie down one those quick tie downs to strap something in a flat bed.

[Formula21]

Ok, so after reading a link a few posts back about pant scuffs im a lil agenst cup rigs, im thinking of going under the car rigging. but the only issues I have are 1) how do you effectively attach the magnets to the pipe? aluminum isnt magnetic...plus round pipe on magnets means its likely to roll off. and 2) what do you use to remove the magnet from the chassis? i mean im looking at a magnet that has 100lbs pulling strengh and getting 2 of them and im concerned about losing the magnet it geint stuck on the chassis and being in an unreachable place, or reachable but awkward placement and I cant get it off.

[DisrupTer911]

good strong magnets are expensive.
and you can use clamps to attach them.

http://www.automotiverigs.com/product.html

[pullerknabe]

The Question is: What kind of Magnets are they using?
Neodym Magnets with a power of 120kg are about 25 Dollars each.
Not a big deal.

But it would be interesting to know what AR is using (Diameter/Power)....

[Formula21]

i found magnets on ebay for $25 with claimed pulling force of 100lbs.

With that being said upon more research I've flipped flopped back to cups again.

[StE823]

Hello guys! Haven't got any chance to do any rigshots here in Canada, but i just launched my pure automotive wallpaper website where ppl can download my rigshots (and other still shots of course) in wallpaper format!

http://www.shutterlitwallpaper.com

Enjoy!

[khfoto.no]

Hello guys! Haven't got any chance to do any rigshots here in Canada, but i just launched my pure automotive wallpaper website where ppl can download my rigshots (and other still shots of course) in wallpaper format!

http://www.shutterlitwallpaper.com

Enjoy!

WOW, incredible good site !! and photos ... !!

[turboale]

Great stuff StE823,
Care to share your setup? I'm guessing at least primarily an under-car rig? Are you using clamps or magnets?

[StE823]

Great stuff StE823,
Care to share your setup? I'm guessing at least primarily an under-car rig? Are you using clamps or magnets?
thanks! i've been posting here for a while during summer... here's how my rig look, actually it was a over-car rig :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=8811312&postcount=2924

[turboale]

Well done! How long is the boom when extended? The picture of the Black IS is great in how wide it is, thats what made me think it was an under-car. I'm assuming you used the 10-22?

[Lucian.B]

i found magnets on ebay for $25 with claimed pulling force of 100lbs.

With that being said upon more research I've flipped flopped back to cups again.

I bought my magnets at about 9$ each, they are neodim magnets, 32mm diameter, and about 25kg force (about 50lbs).
Bought 3 of them, tested with half of the rig on, and they seem to work good.

I'll post some pictures when i finish it:)

[StE823]

Well done! How long is the boom when extended? The picture of the Black IS is great in how wide it is, thats what made me think it was an under-car. I'm assuming you used the 10-22?
it extended to 15" long, and yes it was done with a 40D with 10-22.. thanks again~

[jedrak]

This is my test shot of my 4-meter rig. Unfortunately the road was bumpy like hell and was also covered with snow patches. The car is blurred but I promise to do better next time. I just need to find a road without snow :-)

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4589/rigshot.jpg

[khfoto.no]

This is my test shot of my 4-meter rig. Unfortunately the road was bumpy like hell and was also covered with snow patches. The car is blurred but I promise to do better next time. I just need to find a road without snow :-)



Hi, great shot.

You can always take two pictures one before you run so you have a picture with the car completely in focus, then it's just merging the images together.... Or just push the car... your choice :D

[fotomast]

Still a mighty fine shot if you ask me..

The rig must have been pretty close to those trees!

[jedrak]

You can always take two pictures one before you run...

Many thanks for the positive feedback, I didn't expect it at that stage. I thought about taking a static photo and overlay it on the blurry one, but I wanted to see how the rig performs in true raw form. The engine vibrations were basically non-existent but there was a lot of high amplitude movement due to the bumpy/snowy road and the quite long rig. Tomorrow I am going to a parking lot and will see how it works.

The rig was actually pretty close to the trees and some other sticks/plants/bushes. I had to carefully maneuver in order not to throw my D3 in a 3-feet deep snow.

[*Knowledge*]

My PS skills are lacking which is why I tend to not do rigshots but oh well.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4311057632_f730c51644_o.jpg

[turboale]

The first of many... This was just a test fit in front of my buddies house.

With the 24-105L...
http://akent.smugmug.com/Cars/Races/24hrs-of-Daytona-2010-Day-I/IMG9096/779679104_AmdYk-L.jpg

With the 14L...
http://akent.smugmug.com/Cars/Races/24hrs-of-Daytona-2010-Day-I/IMG9044/779677709_xWiPq-L.jpg

[turboale]

Jedrak,
Do you have sliders on your rig? If so Id run a support pole attached to a superclamp from it to support the boom. Then things should get much smoother no matter what road conditions you have... :) Either way, you have a great looking truck! If its a diesel I'll be completely jealous...

[PJH]

The first of many... This was just a test fit in front of my buddies house.

With the 24-105L...
http://akent.smugmug.com/Cars/Races/24hrs-of-Daytona-2010-Day-I/IMG9096/779679104_AmdYk-L.jpg

With the 14L...
http://akent.smugmug.com/Cars/Races/24hrs-of-Daytona-2010-Day-I/IMG9044/779677709_xWiPq-L.jpg

I love both!

[ni$mo350]

So I've seen a lot of great setups and examples so thank you to all. I do have a question though. My buddy has a built Sazuki Samurai and it's extremely bouncy and rough. Is it best to leave the rig shots to smoother rides? I'm not worried so much when it's going but more starting out through first and second.

[turboale]

Thanks PJH! I can't wait to get this thing on some more cars...

N-350,
The key is to only do this on flat surfaces and turn the engine off. You don't need to be going very fast, in fact keep the engine off and push the vehicle for best results.

[jedrak]

Jedrak,
Do you have sliders on your rig? If so Id run a support pole attached to a superclamp from it to support the boom. Then things should get much smoother no matter what road conditions you have... :) Either way, you have a great looking truck! If its a diesel I'll be completely jealous...

Sliders are ready to be installed. They are made of stainless steel, just like my self-made bumper. No, it's not a diesel bu guess what... 90% of those trucks over here are diesels and many people are jealous because I have a gas engine. Frankly speaking there is no performance/maintenance difference between these two engines. It's rather a syndrom of 'the grass which is always green on the other side'.

Anyway, here are some photos from my second try. Just test shots so the car was not washed for the shoot. It's snowy and muddy winter here :-)

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9729/fot9153edit.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/971/fot9123edit.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1603/fot9098edit.jpg

[turboale]

Awesome, Stainless sliders!? Your not going to feel bad scratching them up on rocks? ;) Indeed, grass is always greener. I'm just as sucker for boost and torque. Your 2nd location seems like a great one. I like the red pipe...

Here is my 2nd attempt, I haven't been through all of them but here are a couple.

http://akent.smugmug.com/photos/783426628_diyP4-L-1.jpg

http://akent.smugmug.com/photos/783427158_JHYaK-L.jpg

[MaxSteel]

Lots of bimmer guys ITT :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4339009737_214c316697_b.jpg

[PerFormA]

Hi all,

it's been a long time I have not shot, yesterday I shot toyota DX 80's
Canon 50D
18-55mm
rig 4 meter

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/david_mahajaya/My%20Photo/DX1.jpg

[PerFormA]

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/david_mahajaya/My%20Photo/DX3.jpg

[PerFormA]

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/david_mahajaya/My%20Photo/dx2.jpg

[PerFormA]

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/david_mahajaya/My%20Photo/DX4.jpg

comment are welcome...thanks

[MaxSteel]

Looks like the rig is getting a good amount of bounce. 3rd one (city behind the car) could've been really cool if it was sharper and WB was adjusted. Seems like a busy place to set up a rig and get some shots though lol.

[PerFormA]

Looks like the rig is getting a good amount of bounce. 3rd one (city behind the car) could've been really cool if it was sharper and WB was adjusted. Seems like a busy place to set up a rig and get some shots though lol.

thanks hehe yup it's busy place in the night and police car stop in front us and check what we doing..LOL

[Lucian.B]

Hi there guys ! Last week i managed to put the magnets on the rig. I was very pleased to see that those tiny magnets did their job :) Although i shoud get 2 more magnets, for the back side of the mount. I now only use 3 magnets.
Now i'll wait for warmer days, to get back testing and tweaking the rig :)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8741/dsc00403l.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9121/dsc00405v.jpg

[PerFormA]

Hi there guys ! Last week i managed to put the magnets on the rig. I was very pleased to see that those tiny magnets did their job :) Although i shoud get 2 more magnets, for the back side of the mount. I now only use 3 magnets.
Now i'll wait for warmer days, to get back testing and tweaking the rig :)




nice info, if this RIG not bounce? it will be highly appreciated if u can share more photo and detail photo about your rig..:D

[needforspeed]

Alright, I have just ordered the boom for my rig, but I have a question. I don't have the Avenger suction cups, instead I have two of these http://www.filmtools.com/6woodpowgrip.html It's an incredibly strong and well built suction cup with a load capacity of up to 70 lbs. I know how I can attach them to the super clamps, but it would not give the maneuverability/flexibility that the baby swivel pin gives the avenger. Does anybody know anything that will let me do that? I was going to use this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ivel_Pin_.html but it's a 5/8" female thread and I need a 3/8" female thread.

[cbouchez]

Great pics guys!

[jdefoor]

My first attempt with the new rig. Had to roll backwards for these due to the sun location and slope of the parking lot.

[jdefoor]

Alright, I have just ordered the boom for my rig, but I have a question. I don't have the Avenger suction cups, instead I have two of these http://www.filmtools.com/6woodpowgrip.html It's an incredibly strong and well built suction cup with a load capacity of up to 70 lbs. I know how I can attach them to the super clamps, but it would not give the maneuverability/flexibility that the baby swivel pin gives the avenger. Does anybody know anything that will let me do that? I was going to use this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ivel_Pin_.html but it's a 5/8" female thread and I need a 3/8" female thread.

I looked around and it does seem weird that they don't offer that.

Would this help? :

Lindcraft 5/8" Baby Spud w/ 3/8-16 threaded hole in base. AL200

http://www.filmtools.com/58babspudw381.html

It's only 3.5" long so it should be sufficient for this to grab on to:

Avenger F830 Baby Swivel Pin, 5/8" Female - 5/8" Male

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3616-REG/Avenger_F830_F830_Baby_Swivel_Pin_.html#features

Hope this helps! And yes, the swivel pin really helps to get the suction cup flush with the sheet metal.

[romasas]

ulala bmw :

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4373970262_067c1eca2f_o.jpg

[peterK.]

Alright, I have just ordered the boom for my rig, but I have a question. I don't have the Avenger suction cups, instead I have two of these http://www.filmtools.com/6woodpowgrip.html It's an incredibly strong and well built suction cup with a load capacity of up to 70 lbs. I know how I can attach them to the super clamps, but it would not give the maneuverability/flexibility that the baby swivel pin gives the avenger. Does anybody know anything that will let me do that? I was going to use this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ivel_Pin_.html but it's a 5/8" female thread and I need a 3/8" female thread.

I'm using the Manfrotto 119 (http://www.adorama.com/BG3108.html?searchinfo=manfrotto+119) adapters to connect the Wood's cups to the Avenger F830. (http://www.adorama.com/AEF830.html?searchinfo=avenger+F830)

This way you can get them to mount closer to the cups than you would using the Lindcraft 5/8" Baby Spud (http://www.filmtools.com/58babspudw381.html) that was posted above.

You'll need to replace the lower wing nut on the F830 with a bolt because it won't clear the top on the cups when you tighten it.

[peterK.]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4376123988_04a2d2c1ab_o.jpg

[needforspeed]

I'm using the Manfrotto 119 (http://www.adorama.com/BG3108.html?searchinfo=manfrotto+119) adapters to connect the Wood's cups to the Avenger F830. (http://www.adorama.com/AEF830.html?searchinfo=avenger+F830)

This way you can get them to mount closer to the cups than you would using the Lindcraft 5/8" Baby Spud (http://www.filmtools.com/58babspudw381.html) that was posted above.

You'll need to replace the lower wing nut on the F830 with a bolt because it won't clear the top on the cups when you tighten it.

Oh sweet. Do you have a photo of it together (Just the suction cup and the two pieces mentioned above)? And do you use a stud to connect the Avenger F830 to the Manfrotto 119?

[kam-photo]

Hello all,

I've been following this forum for a while and thought its time to give a little and not just take! I have found all the information in this thread invaluable! Thank you to all :)

Currently manufacturing Rig-1 and should have it finished by the end of the week so I can go test it. I am UK based. Its the simple 2 Avenger F1000s, 3 Super Clamps, 1 Manfrotto Magic Arm arrangement. I've read every page of this thread (took a while haha) and have gone for a slightly different beam selection:

I'm using T6 Aluminium tubing, OD 1.5" and 4.92mm thick side walls (beefy) and its total length is 5m (16ft). It is a long beam so I have cut it down and am using 1-1/8" bar to manufacture some very snug couplings.

I am, however, slightly concerned about the weight of the rig. I've done the maths and (without the couplings which don't way that much) the tube weights just under 7kg.. which sounds fine, but in real-life feels very heavy.

Now, I understand that a lot of people use Ali 2" OD with 1/8" side walls. At 16ft, maths tells me that these poles are about 6.3kg, so only a little bit lighter than my thick-walled stuff.

Could someone who uses such a beam (2" OD, 1/8" side walls, approx 16ft long) reassure me that the Avenger's can sustain such moment? ??? I'll definitely have a long line of pillows on the ground when I first test this rig!! ;)

Thanks for the help!
I shall post pictures of the rig and also test shots once I finish the manufacture :)