Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread [Archive] - Page 29

int2str

26th of October 2010 (Tue), 00:56

Got my pole today...

I bought some military surplus antenna mast segments off eBay. They are 4ft aluminum segments. For added stability, the pipes have ridges along their length. So far, they look pretty good. I put them together and they seem very stable with little to no flex.

Only problem I'm seeing so far is that the pipe pieces only overlap by a few inches. Also, the pipes don't fit together very snuggly. But my plan is to drill a hole in each connection piece and put a screw in to secure them together.

I don't have the suction cups and other bits yet, so I can't test it at the moment. The poles were my biggest concern though and I think there will be workable. Not bad for $38...

cmpdesignz

27th of October 2010 (Wed), 04:05

Can anyone offer suggestions on picking a location for a rig shot???

karmacarzi

27th of October 2010 (Wed), 22:12

Hi there,

Brand new to Rig shots but here's a couple of my beginner efforts, I've got much to learn especially when it comes to reducing flex on my rig and post processing. Currrently working on an undercar setup using electric window regulator clips that clamp onto the pinch rails, but that's some way off yet.

The well tried 10ft pole seems alright, but I'd like to extend it to 15ft. Do people find that using thicker tube walls makes for less flex / bounce?

C + C is most definitely welcome as I strive to get better.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5093341497_bd9c9c549e_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4855069457_e859020079_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4786498738_a38caede88_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5037645738_df99f4f6ba_z.jpg

Surferdude

28th of October 2010 (Thu), 00:01

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5037645738_df99f4f6ba_z.jpg

WOW!! :shock: How heavy is that!?

Mike Bowen

28th of October 2010 (Thu), 00:32

seriously! lol might work on a roof rack but thats about it

StE823

28th of October 2010 (Thu), 02:13

that look kinda badass... probably good for under car rig but not suction cups...

Surferdude

28th of October 2010 (Thu), 22:16

*curious about the crane that drives beside the object* :D

p27rpy

30th of October 2010 (Sat), 18:16

Ok guys, after going through this HUGE thread for ideas, here is what I have come up with. For yall with experience with this, does this sound about right? It's a bit pricey, but I'm willing to pay a bit more so that it is nice and stable. One thing though, when I totaled all the est. weight for all the items (inc the Avenger F1000's, which I suppose I could leave off...), it comes out to 26.94 lbs, not including the camera (22.08 without the Avengers). How's that for weight? is that about what everyone else is running?

Thoughts?

http://i54.tinypic.com/1jqasm.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2cgzeya.jpg

Well i ended up ordering all this (except i got the regular super clamps), and the 12" sections don't fit inside the larger ones. so i'm going to have to find a machine shop somewhere that can get me some pieces that will fit inside. just a minor detail, but definitely a frustrating one.

just a heads up for those of you wanting to do a similar setup...

i'll keep yall posted!

int2str

30th of October 2010 (Sat), 23:38

I bought some military surplus antenna mast segments off eBay. They are 4ft aluminum segments. For added stability, the pipes have ridges along their length. So far, they look pretty good. I put them together and they seem very stable with little to no flex.

Sorry to quote my own post - I'm just trying to give an update with proper context...

Today I drilled holes in the overlapping parts of the segments and put a large screw through the inner and outer sections to connect them. Unfortunately, there seems to be a bit of a wobble when all 4 segments are connected together. I'll try it like this, but I have a feeling I'll need wire bracing in the future...

Despite the individual segments seemingly not weighing much, the whole rig seems a bit heavy. I'm a bit concerned about the bending the hood once mounted, to be honest. As anybody weight their rig by any chance? Do you guys put any counter weights behind the suction cups or similar?

My suction cups should be here Monday, at which point I'm ready for some test shots!

anion

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 12:23

finally after a month i got my ride...this is the 1st time i had a photo taken of her :(

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o238/anion99/Cars/Alfa155_watermarked.jpg

KhanhD

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 12:42

Holy crap how long is your boom?

Sil3ntP8nd8

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 19:14

I'm sure most of you have the:

3x: Manfrotto SuperClamp
http://www.adorama.com/images/Product/BG2900.jpg

1x: Magic Arm:
http://www.adorama.com/images/Product/BG2930.jpg

2x: Avenger F1000 Cups
http://www.adorama.com/images/Product/AEF1000.jpg

And probably a 10' EMT pole from Lowes
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/091111/091111020032lg.jpg

as I have it too. But I wanna see what everyone else has or bought so others can look into buying.

KhanhD

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 19:43

1.5" EMT from Lowes is too heavy, anything else is too floppy.

I have 2 sticks of 1.5" (Trade Size) Rigid Aluminum Conduit from an Electrical Supply House. 1 piece is the full 10', the second is cut into 6'8" and 3'4", all 3 sections are threaded at both ends. They have threaded couplers for the conduit. The conduit and the couplers have 1/4" holes drilled through them so I can use a screwdriver to tighten them together.

Im considering cutting my 10' stick in half and getting another coupler. Right now I put the avenger cups to my roof and clamp the 10' stick to it for transport, but this isnt something Id be comfortable with for more than a couple minutes.

I think I want another cup for the back end, too.

KhanhD

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 19:44

What I gotta figure out is how Im going to rig my car once I wrap it in 3M DiNoc next year..

anion

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 21:50

Holy crap how long is your boom?

my boom is around 12 1/2' but once everything is hooked up, the camera and the car distance would be somewhere around 8-9' :D

raytran

31st of October 2010 (Sun), 22:40

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1248/5134604598_c7723c6a02_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/raytran/5134604598/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1213/5134005003_00dfa063f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/raytran/5134005003/)

RL.

1st of November 2010 (Mon), 00:11

nice shots of the audi!

karmacarzi

1st of November 2010 (Mon), 08:49

WOW!! :shock: How heavy is that!?

All in 3 x 5 foot sections of global truss weighs 9kgs without camera, magic arm etc.

I also use Cullmann suction cups with spigot adapters which seem to work pretty well although the truss generates a hell of a lot of leverage with the camera attached.

http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/ProductDetails~man~Cullmann~productID~6055~categor yid~226.html

p27rpy

1st of November 2010 (Mon), 11:05

Hey guys,

I am drawing a blank on how to connect the pieces to my rig now that the original idea of inserting tubes inside the boom is not working. im basically going with the same idea as itzjere's rig (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=7519543&postcount=1742), but i didnt get so lucky with the inner tubes sliding in.

i've seen in the thread that people were talking about using these (https://www.shopwagner.com/nxc/NXCSC.NSF/ItemInformation?openagent&SID=0CC8CC71C64C94AE862577CB005515AB&Item=3379-6&), but i haven't seen if anyone has used them with any success.

i really can't afford to start over, so can anyone think of any ideas to securely connect the boom pieces together?

i appreciate everyone's help!

flayzeraynx

1st of November 2010 (Mon), 14:36

here is my last attempt

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5094190012_b0a2e08619_b.jpg

flayzeraynx

1st of November 2010 (Mon), 14:37

and this one is nothing to do with the rig, right after we removed the rig system rain has started.. and this is the shot from that moment!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5093590487_8d0964c126_b.jpg

karmacarzi

1st of November 2010 (Mon), 15:45

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1257/5122503762_cd5b0fd2e7_z.jpg

Surferdude

2nd of November 2010 (Tue), 15:55

here is my last attempt

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5094190012_b0a2e08619_b.jpg

A bit to close to the car is my opinion, it looks like a Z4 now..

synth19

6th of November 2010 (Sat), 19:41

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1371/5152145487_6164441311_o.jpg

FIXXER04

6th of November 2010 (Sat), 22:52

Just picked up the new rig, can't wait to try it out.
2"od aluminum tube, 3 sections 54"each, machined couplers with snap rings
to lock sections together. All hard anodized black.

p27rpy

7th of November 2010 (Sun), 10:15

wow, that looks great! where did you find something like that?

KhanhD

7th of November 2010 (Sun), 10:29

How tight do those couplers fit? Id be worried about wobble with those..

FIXXER04

8th of November 2010 (Mon), 08:48

I had the rig made by a local machine shop that does aircraft work, the couplers are so tight there is no wobble. You actually lubricate them with Chap Stick!!!! The snap rings are obviously there to keep it together. Should get out to use it over the next couple of weeks.

mitchman

8th of November 2010 (Mon), 09:02

^^^^Photos?^^^^^

FIXXER04

8th of November 2010 (Mon), 09:22

It's 3 up #4232 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=11238429&postcount=4232) in this thread...

mitchman

8th of November 2010 (Mon), 10:37

Thanks. I should have figured that out.

p27rpy

8th of November 2010 (Mon), 11:55

wow. very, very well done! the craftsmanship is amazing.

StE823

9th of November 2010 (Tue), 00:10

^ definitely, now im jealous... lol

Adaptive

9th of November 2010 (Tue), 00:28

Just picked up the new rig, can't wait to try it out.
2"od aluminum tube, 3 sections 54"each, machined couplers with snap rings
to lock sections together. All hard anodized black.

How much $$$?!?!!

How much for shipping to philly
:)

luke*

9th of November 2010 (Tue), 14:14

mi car rig! Made in home!!!
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll143/luk_Star/eka_ej_rolling2.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll143/luk_Star/eka_ej_rolling.jpg

quickster

10th of November 2010 (Wed), 09:10

one from the s2k shoot that didnt make it onto the magazine.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1238/5163314376_22e0c266e1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/quickster/5163314376/)
Brian's Mugen S2000 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/quickster/5163314376/) by QuickWorksPhoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/quickster/), on Flickr

honda tuning winter 2010 issue.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs987.snc4/76004_448105201779_504436779_5778282_2936950_n.jpg

synth19

10th of November 2010 (Wed), 11:35

mi car rig! Made in home!!!
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll143/luk_Star/eka_ej_rolling2.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll143/luk_Star/eka_ej_rolling.jpg

You may need a longer boom.

KhanhD

10th of November 2010 (Wed), 14:50

And watch for reflections off the car

karmacarzi

10th of November 2010 (Wed), 19:17

Still getting my head around Photoshop CS2 and post processing in a massive way but here's a couple of new ones.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1215/5165018585_b7c3db7367_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/5165645558_c8ae3acd93_z.jpg

KhanhD

10th of November 2010 (Wed), 19:27

Still getting my head around Photoshop CS2 and post processing in a massive way but here's a couple of new ones.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1215/5165018585_b7c3db7367_z.jpg

bw!

mellofelow

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 00:36

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1215/5165018585_b7c3db7367_z.jpg

OMG! that's awesome!! I just had a 'Half Life' flash back.

karmacarzi

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 08:57

Thanks people, is book worthy good? :D

Mark1

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 10:02

Thanks people, is book worthy good? :D

Depends on what kind of book.

neil1138

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 17:31

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1129/5149989169_93c308a7e9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neil1138/5149989169/)

And finally took the time to upgrade the rig. Woot

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5167496557_74b4b5f5a7_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/derref/5167496557/)

DisrupTer911

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 20:26

Do you use all 4 suction cups at once?

lcrazyaznl

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 22:16

What are the specs on that piping? and where did you get it?
I'm trying to pick up aluminum pipes just not sure what size and stuff.

Adaptive

11th of November 2010 (Thu), 22:25

PROBLEM

Guys i have a problem and i wonder if anyone can help, i have a 10ft pole which is great for shots off the hood, but id love a longer pole to take some off the roof of the car. However i own an rx8 and i cant even fit my 10ft pole in it. Can someone recommend an expandable pole maybe?? or any other solution

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO FIT THE 10 FOOT POLE INSIDE YOUR CAR?????

You have 2 suction cups and 2 super clamps.....

- step 1... Put 2 suction cups on roof with super clamps attached..
- step 2... Put the pole in the clamps.
- step 3... Tighten the super clamps
- step 4... Drive home....

With no weight and minimal wind resistance you shouldn't have a problem (unless you're going 100+ mph and driving like an idiot...

not rocket science!!
gotta be smarter than the average bear sometimes....

KhanhD

12th of November 2010 (Fri), 02:32

Thats what I do, but Ive been limiting my rig shots to less than 10 minutes from my house, which is limiting me a bit. Im just not comfortable with the setup.

Im probably just going to chop my 10' stick down the middle.

maxharvard

12th of November 2010 (Fri), 12:35

Corvette in GM High-Tech

http://www.impermanence.kungphu.com/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1786-c360_2010-11-12_12-26-13.jpg

Dimer

13th of November 2010 (Sat), 09:34

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/5148616226_7040a15eba_b.jpg

plawa

13th of November 2010 (Sat), 09:54

OK, everyone who posts a photo like this should also immediately contribute to my rig fund because you really make it difficult for me not to go and get one. I love cars, I love photography and I'm seriously thinking this is probably the best way of combining those two passions. Plus I'm not afraid of the post processing so that's not stopping me either.

On a more serious note, those of you who got a rig because you simply had to have one (and are not pro's) did you end up with some paid gigs to cover the cost? I already have everything else you technically need for these shots (minus the skill and experience) so safe for possibly an ND filter for day shots the rig would be my only expense but I'd still like to see it pay off.

neil1138

13th of November 2010 (Sat), 09:55

@Dimer ^ I noticed it on flickr earlier. Great photo, cut above the rest

@plawa My rig cost around $400 and it was paid off within 3 months. Not the quickest turnaround but I live in Oklahoma, it's BFE over here. Now I just shoot for free because I enjoy taking the photos. There are instances where I wouldnt mind charging someone but typically they end up buying me dinner for my time which is good enough for me

bsquared

14th of November 2010 (Sun), 19:59

First things first...Thanks to everyone willing to post all of their work and information for their builds...you are lifesavers...and if anyone has any questions feel free to ask!

Sooo...it finally came time for me to make a rig and quite the experience it has been. If only it wasn't winter in the pacific north west. Hopefully I will get to use it sometime soon but I figured I'd post all of the details to help out anyone that is interested...I know all of this stuff exists in the 2000 pages that I have spent most of my life reading now but I figured I would put it all here anyway just so some of the things I have seen spread out are a little consolidated:

I broke down all of my expenses on an excel spread sheet with some hyperlinks to the actual photography based parts of it...

screenshot:
http://b2dp.com/pictures/rolling_rig/Screen%20shot%202010-11-14%20at%205.46.49%20PM.png

actual excel file:
http://b2dp.com/pictures/rolling_rig/rolling%20rig.xlsx

So my photos of the setup are all here:
http://b2dp.com/pictures/rolling_rig/rolling_rig_web/

I took a few videos before and after adding the cable for some tension and support as it's 20ft long...

before cable bracing:
http://b2dp.com/pictures/rolling_rig/rolling_rig_videos/rolling_rig_nocablebrace.MOV

after cable added:
http://b2dp.com/pictures/rolling_rig/rolling_rig_videos/rolling_rig_cablebrace.MOV

and then I took a video close up walking the length of the entire setup to kinda highlight some of the aspects of the setup:
http://b2dp.com/pictures/rolling_rig/rolling_rig_videos/rolling_rig_002.MOV

hope some of this helps someone....I love this thing and it looks like it has huge potential, I just hope I can get some favorable weather in the next few weeks before the snow hits...

patman530

14th of November 2010 (Sun), 21:26

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y378/patman53000/r-IMG_0150.jpg

neil1138

14th of November 2010 (Sun), 21:39

...

Damn, your rig bounces quite a bit.

karmacarzi

15th of November 2010 (Mon), 13:54

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5179306814_1d23131628_z.jpg

synth19

15th of November 2010 (Mon), 16:07

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5179306814_1d23131628_z.jpg

Cool shot! Just a suggestion-straighten the car out and it will be a money shot!

karmacarzi

15th of November 2010 (Mon), 20:57

Cool shot! Just a suggestion-straighten the car out and it will be a money shot!

Thanks Synth, you're so right about straightening it out. I should have got it right in camera really but I didn't think this shot would work because of the amount of post processing involved - I'm still not very good at it to be honest!

I'm still looking to improve with every shot and this thread has been a constant source of help and inspiration, so thanks to everyone for posting their efforts and constructive comments.

neil1138

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 01:52

Thanks Synth, you're so right about straightening it out. I should have got it right in camera really but I didn't think this shot would work because of the amount of post processing involved - I'm still not very good at it to be honest!

I'm still looking to improve with every shot and this thread has been a constant source of help and inspiration, so thanks to everyone for posting their efforts and constructive comments.

Honestly, I think the photo is spot on. I wouldn't change a thing

It's exceptionally sharp, the colors are great, and the offset (in both center offset and horizon offset) just adds something to the photo that a straight on photo lacks.

PhotosGuy

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 08:42

Honestly, I think the photo is spot on. I wouldn't change a thing

It's exceptionally sharp, the colors are great, and the offset (in both center offset and horizon offset) just adds something to the photo that a straight on photo lacks. Good one, & I agree with Neil. I'd leave this shot alone. (Now you don't know what to do, right?) :D

karmacarzi

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 10:35

Confused now fellas! Here it is straightened up bit. I just rotated it and cropped it in P Shop.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5182202002_9103140421_z.jpg

karmacarzi

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 10:39

I didn't take this one but I like it very much. The credit goes to Chris Brown.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1399/5170172665_2347f4d37e_z.jpg

KhanhD

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 11:09

I like the crooked one better.

plawa

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 11:22

I didn't take this one but I like it very much. The credit goes to Chris Brown.

That's probably the best looking Fabia ever ;]

lcrazyaznl

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 13:34

Hey guys I remember some people talking about where to place the eye hook for the support system?

Do you guys place it dead in the middle for the most tension or did some of you move it closer to one side?

PhotosGuy

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 22:28

Confused now fellas! Here it is straightened up bit. I just rotated it and cropped it in P Shop. Nope. I don't often say this, but tilted & offset to the left as you had it works better for me.

3DZukini

16th of November 2010 (Tue), 22:33

I agree, I think the tilt added to the action/movement feeling to it.... now it looks a little slower :)

Agnu

17th of November 2010 (Wed), 00:09

Wasn't worth making a new thread for, so I just decided to post it in here :).

New rig shawt;
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/5183357129_dd0073d69b_b.jpg

Lucian.B

18th of November 2010 (Thu), 14:35

Some recent rig shots...
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4223/dsc0638qs.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9461/dsc0669m.jpg

Sil3ntP8nd8

18th of November 2010 (Thu), 17:00

cool

alexgb

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 06:06

Some recent rig shots...

Greats shots !!
What is the car in last picture ?

Lucian.B

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 06:26

Greats shots !!
What is the car in last picture ?

Thanks !
It's a Dacia 1300 (Renault 12 copy)

synth19

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 09:28

Lucian.B, nice work!

synth19

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 09:30

Nope. I don't often say this, but tilted & offset to the left as you had it works better for me.

I have to agree now that I see my suggestion tried. However, if he cropped it evenly and centered it, I think it would look better then the angled shot. Just an opinion though!

rikaro

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 14:26

Has any of you used a suction cup in the rain? Specifically the Avenger F1000.

synth19

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 16:18

Zilly

19th of November 2010 (Fri), 16:39

^ wouldn't you be more concerned about the lens and body? But rain shouldn't impact the suction cup as once it's applied, it's sealed. I usually also some a bit of water or detail spray which seems to help with suctioning.

I think his thinking is is the suction cup going to fail due to the body being wet causing his camera to hit the deck ;-)

And no no real issues from when I've attached mine to wet surfaces

Sil3ntP8nd8

20th of November 2010 (Sat), 14:42

neil1138

20th of November 2010 (Sat), 15:44

So I have a minor issue.

I bought this from speedy metals:

1-3/4" OD {A} x 1.500" ID {B} x .125" Wall {C} Tube 6061-T6 Aluminum-By the Inch
3 24 $48.24

2" OD {A} x 1.750" ID {B} x .125" Wall {C} Tube 6061-T6 Aluminum-By the Inch
4 48 $69.12

But when I try to put them together, they don't quite fit. There are imperfections in the pole which doesn't allow me to fit them together. Now I had a buddy shave down the edge of the pole and it seems to fit. But to fit them into each other completely, the entire pole would have to be shaved down with a dremmel. SM is closed today so I'll call them on monday.

You need to have a friend turn them down a couple thousandths of an inch. Using a dremmel would take forever... you need to use a lathe. I had to have mine turned down twelve thousandths of an inch to fit perfectly snug.

Oh and latest:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/5191028784_b585434774_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neil1138/5191028784/)

I love my 16' when I can get it to work

izthistaken

20th of November 2010 (Sat), 16:08

16'.....holy crap! You could just do a rolling shot @ that point. :lol: Killer man! Sick car!

hieu1004

20th of November 2010 (Sat), 16:09

^Nice shot!

StE823

20th of November 2010 (Sat), 21:51

You need to have a friend turn them down a couple thousandths of an inch. Using a dremmel would take forever... you need to use a lathe. I had to have mine turned down twelve thousandths of an inch to fit perfectly snug.

Oh and latest:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5201/5191028784_b585434774_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neil1138/5191028784/)

I love my 16' when I can get it to work
umm interesting... i never tried that wide from rear with my boom, i believe mine is around 17' lol

Sil3ntP8nd8

21st of November 2010 (Sun), 00:39

I'll try to find someone that can shave it down for me. But I'll use my 10' emt in the meantime.

RL.

21st of November 2010 (Sun), 03:42

i am thinking about getting a rig soon, is it worth it to you guys? do you use it often?

Agnu

21st of November 2010 (Sun), 05:49

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9461/dsc0669m.jpg

Great shot mate! Love the feeling.

hieu1004

21st of November 2010 (Sun), 09:23

^Very nice!

PhotosGuy

21st of November 2010 (Sun), 09:41

i am thinking about getting a rig soon, is it worth it to you guys? do you use it often? As you can see here, you can spend as much as a good lens (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=11284351&postcount=4260) on a good rig.
So unless you're going to use one a LOT, I'd suggest that you get comfortable with this first: Lotsa' links! First shoot with moving cars need advice. (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=358481)

jejeje

22nd of November 2010 (Mon), 06:34

Some recent rig shots...
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9461/dsc0669m.jpg

Love this one! :-D

KhanhD

22nd of November 2010 (Mon), 09:01

i am thinking about getting a rig soon, is it worth it to you guys? do you use it often?
Its a $500-1000 piece of specialized equipment, assuming you have a wide enough lens as it is. Only you can determine if its worth it.

ANGUS

22nd of November 2010 (Mon), 09:33

Wasn't worth making a new thread for, so I just decided to post it in here :).

New rig shawt;
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/5183357129_dd0073d69b_b.jpg

Nice one, good to see another Northern Beaches of Sydney bloke.

p27rpy

22nd of November 2010 (Mon), 15:24

So I have a minor issue.

I bought this from speedy metals:

1-3/4" OD {A} x 1.500" ID {B} x .125" Wall {C} Tube 6061-T6 Aluminum-By the Inch
3 24 $48.24

2" OD {A} x 1.750" ID {B} x .125" Wall {C} Tube 6061-T6 Aluminum-By the Inch
4 48 $69.12

But when I try to put them together, they don't quite fit. There are imperfections in the pole which doesn't allow me to fit them together. Now I had a buddy shave down the edge of the pole and it seems to fit. But to fit them into each other completely, the entire pole would have to be shaved down with a dremmel. SM is closed today so I'll call them on monday.

i had the same problem. there's nothing that SM is going to be able to do for you. find a fab shop in your area and ask them to turn the ID of the larger tube down a few thousandths of an inch with a lathe. it will fit perfectly after that.

lcrazyaznl

22nd of November 2010 (Mon), 23:19

A shot from this weekend.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/5200523420_c10fe683dc_z.jpg
Just got the aluminum pipes from sm. Same problem need to get them shaved down.

JFP-Photography

23rd of November 2010 (Tue), 09:16

You forgot to clone the rig out of the rear bumper. ^

hieu1004

23rd of November 2010 (Tue), 09:54

Wow nice shots! Need to get myself a car rig.

lcrazyaznl

23rd of November 2010 (Tue), 11:32

You forgot to clone the rig out of the rear bumper. ^

? where I did clone it out the other part is part of a smoke stack in the area.

Sil3ntP8nd8

23rd of November 2010 (Tue), 12:48

i had the same problem. there's nothing that SM is going to be able to do for you. find a fab shop in your area and ask them to turn the ID of the larger tube down a few thousandths of an inch with a lathe. it will fit perfectly after that.

isnt that like the opposite of using a lathe for the smaller tube to fit in the bigger one?

p27rpy

23rd of November 2010 (Tue), 17:26

they have the ones that go inside the tube and turn it that way. worked really well on mine. nice because he only turned 4" or so inside, so the tube goes in then stops at the proper length.

also guys, i was curious about what yall are using as extensions from the cup to the superclamp if you wanted to get a bit of angle into the shots. would the extensions from stickypod (http://www.stickypod.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=35&osCsid=58646c726fca583a12fd46f63c4f8c90) work?

thanks!

togish1

25th of November 2010 (Thu), 14:51

i dont remember if i posted up before on here, but here it is....with my first rig i built...i need to build another one....i went with an under car set up, so im gonna go for the normal suction cup setup now....the under car one needs a lot of improvement

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4622486093_284b35266a_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1273/4705700850_b42bfd6c59_b.jpg

Zilly

26th of November 2010 (Fri), 13:30

the under car one needs a lot of improvement

I think some details on your rig and what needs improving could really help other people if you don't mind sharing

togish1

26th of November 2010 (Fri), 13:38

I think some details on your rig and what needs improving could really help other people if you don't mind sharing

ya i dont mind sharing, i used 3 90lbs magnets and 4 sections of aluminum piping....its the pivot point which needs improvement...its basically the setup on automotiverigs.com cept my pivot point wasnt strong so there was a lot of play...i dont think i have a pic online to show :(

p27rpy

29th of November 2010 (Mon), 09:02

hey guys,

since this thread helped me out so much while building my rig, i figured i would post my first official rig shot here!

my set up can be found earlier in this thread, but here is the post anyway. (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=11133264&postcount=4197)

that is everything i used, minus the 1/8" steel cable and mounting hardware i used for the suspension piece.

original shot:
http://civitello.smugmug.com/Other/Nikon-D50-Random/Ferrari-308-GTB-163-Rig-Before/1108587459_u6qZP-XL-1.jpg

edited:
http://civitello.smugmug.com/Cars/Ferrari308/Ferrari-308-GTB-New-Rig/1107389243_G4zcH-XL.jpg

thanks for everyone's help in this thread. it's been invaluable. hopefully my info can help someone who is building their own!

Dimer

29th of November 2010 (Mon), 10:00

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/5216194070_dc35a74511_b.jpg

Sil3ntP8nd8

2nd of December 2010 (Thu), 13:50

Finally got my rig together fitted correctly and damn it weighs a lot. lol. Might pick up another cup and clamp and figure out how to rig up a steel cable

p27rpy

2nd of December 2010 (Thu), 15:47

Finally got my rig together fitted correctly and damn it weighs a lot. lol. Might pick up another cup and clamp and figure out how to rig up a steel cable

PM me if you have any questions about the cable. i can show you what i did on mine.

KhanhD

2nd of December 2010 (Thu), 16:35

If I were to assemble a shippable kit of my Aluminum booms, would there be interest in them? 3 piece, 15' total, threaded connection.

izthistaken

2nd of December 2010 (Thu), 17:21

How much would that be you think?

Sil3ntP8nd8

2nd of December 2010 (Thu), 22:49

How much would that be you think?

This canon photog doesn't want to ask a nikon photog to loan some gear. lolz

e.pie

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 01:07

Took my first successful rig shot tonight. :D

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/5227919639_09270cba3e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomfuller/5227919639/)
Acura NSX (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomfuller/5227919639/) by The Fuller (http://www.flickr.com/people/tomfuller/), on Flickr

PJH

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 07:32

that is a great shot. How long is your pole?

e.pie

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 07:48

that is a great shot. How long is your pole?

16.5 ft

KhanhD

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 07:54

How much would that be you think?
$150+ship maybe?

e.pie

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 10:05

What is everyone using to connect their sections of pipe? I am using conduit compression fittings but they are a little flimsy.

wudoo

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 12:01

e.pie

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 22:27

Nice shot! Could we see an un-edited (with rig) snap?

My rig is pretty pitiful and floppy, it's solid it just droops a LOT.

I need to find better couplers.

http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/public/184986/IMG_4643-3.jpg

e.pie

3rd of December 2010 (Fri), 22:30

Actually adding the cable like a lot of people have would probably help a lot.

izthistaken

4th of December 2010 (Sat), 11:30

This canon photog doesn't want to ask a nikon photog to loan some gear. lolz
You shut your mouth! :lol:
$150+ship maybe?
You has picture of set up?

PJH

10th of December 2010 (Fri), 14:21

Got my rigboom today :-)

it's aluminium, 2 pieces of 2 meters and 2 pieces of 1 meter, totalling 19.6feet. It's a 50mm diameter (Approx. 2 inches) pole with a material thickness of 0.125inch (3mm).

It looks so big and heavy :s how much do your rigs weigh?

MaxSteel

10th of December 2010 (Fri), 16:35

On a more serious note, those of you who got a rig because you simply had to have one (and are not pro's) did you end up with some paid gigs to cover the cost? I already have everything else you technically need for these shots (minus the skill and experience) so safe for possibly an ND filter for day shots the rig would be my only expense but I'd still like to see it pay off.

If you can get creative, you can make a rig for pretty cheap. I made mine for under $100 easy. You don't need avenger cups and manfrotto magic arms. You can improvise.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Maxsteel991/CIMG5529LRedit.jpg

quickster

11th of December 2010 (Sat), 00:18

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/5248387454_cbd7076cb1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/quickster/5248387454/)
Chenn's RHD EK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/quickster/5248387454/) by QuickWorksPhoto (http://www.flickr.com/people/quickster/), on Flickr

AZAutoPhoto

15th of December 2010 (Wed), 02:04

If anyone feels like checking out some of my rig shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/azautomotivephotography/sets/72157625476892953/

Most look better on black in Flickr.

I just got my ND filter so I am hoping to start taking these in the day after school.

3DZukini

15th of December 2010 (Wed), 16:41

My rig is pretty pitiful and floppy, it's solid it just droops a LOT.

That's what she said. :p:lol:

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

sigma pi

16th of December 2010 (Thu), 11:47

eyescience

26th of December 2010 (Sun), 12:42

Looking through some old photos, found my first 'successful' rig shot:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x25/kristoferwalken/AudiAlley.jpg

BooostedAWD

26th of December 2010 (Sun), 16:14

Improving (or so I think):

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5291720673_09536b1faf_b.jpg

matthewscl

27th of December 2010 (Mon), 08:28

Have been tracking this thread...so many nice rig shots...heres mine to share from singapore.. :)

some are panning, some are rigged

http://matthewscl.filmgrain.com/albums/Cars/Mazda2/mz003.jpg
http://matthewscl.filmgrain.com/albums/Cars/SwiftSports/SS013.jpg
http://matthewscl.filmgrain.com/albums/Cars/My1stCar/MitLancer143.jpg
http://matthewscl.filmgrain.com/albums/Cars/My%202nd%20Car/Subaru110410-%288%29.jpg

creativeric

28th of December 2010 (Tue), 13:39

Caddy SRX:

http://www.ericvanvuuren.nl/wp-content/gallery/automotive/srx-evv-05.jpg

PJH

28th of December 2010 (Tue), 14:33

Improving (or so I think):

I like it :) but can I see an original?

BooostedAWD

28th of December 2010 (Tue), 20:58

I like it :) but can I see an original?

Thanks!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/alovelydeath/OriginalRig.jpg

PJH

29th of December 2010 (Wed), 06:32

that's alot less editing than I though; Well done you :)

Caspita

29th of December 2010 (Wed), 12:57

Have not posted in here in a while, but even more unfortunate is I have not pulled out my rig in an even longer time...

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/Caspita33/LotusExige_0016web.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/Caspita33/LotusExige_0037web.jpg

rigshots.de

29th of December 2010 (Wed), 14:02

two40

29th of December 2010 (Wed), 15:23

Have not posted in here in a while, but even more unfortunate is I have not pulled out my rig in an even longer time...

With photos like that, you should shoot with the rig more often. Well done. That's what a rig shot ought to look like. Great subject and fantastic setting.

JLz1

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 05:35

Hello there,

I've been following this thread since it started and finally decided to do my own rig. Here's the outcome:

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/358/4/3/lego_rig_by_jlz1-d35k4ix.jpg

and the backstage:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/358/5/b/lego_rig_bts_by_jlz1-d35k4k5.jpg

jejeje

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 06:36

two40

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 06:40

:lol: Awesome parody. bw!

The Ran

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 07:19

You know, if you could get a photo of that in a good setting it could end up looking really cool, maybe a car park or similar so it looks like a life size Lego car.

What did you use to take it? I can't imagine the rig would quite hold a 5D.

chris jones

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 11:02

Awesome!! Is that the LEGO camera? I have the same 8880 Super Car.. its a great kit.

JLz1

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 13:21

You know, if you could get a photo of that in a good setting it could end up looking really cool, maybe a car park or similar so it looks like a life size Lego car.

Yeah I know. Unfortunately there were no park around and everything is covered in snow where I live right now ;/

What did you use to take it? I can't imagine the rig would quite hold a 5D.
Hahaha, that's funny because everywhere I put these photos people are asking me that question. I simply lie down both, the car with a rig and the real camera on the desk; then move the desk. :lol:

Awesome!! Is that the LEGO camera? I have the same 8880 Super Car.. its a great kit.
Yeah it still amazes me :lol: but seriously, after 10 years, I still love to spin the wheels and watch the engine working. :) well spent 100$

This is my second rig and first that is not lego-rig. It's very...custom because I cant afford any of manfrotto's or avenger's accessiories. Cost me about 50$:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/364/5/f/rig_test_by_jlz1-d360129.jpg

I know it's loosing focus at the end but it's mostly the lens' fault and bumpy road.

z3speed4me

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 20:02

my set up can be found earlier in this thread, but here is the post anyway. (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=11133264&postcount=4197)

that is everything i used, minus the 1/8" steel cable and mounting hardware i used for the suspension piece.

Is it me, or does you ID and OD of the different piping there not seem to match up? They look SUPER tight in the picture, but according to what was listed, that gap seems like it would be massive, and not prettymuch sealed like they look in the picture.

The Ran

30th of December 2010 (Thu), 20:10

Is it me, or does you ID and OD of the different piping there not seem to match up? They look SUPER tight in the picture, but according to what was listed, that gap seems like it would be massive, and not prettymuch sealed like they look in the picture.

I'm not sure if you misquoted or if I've misread, but as far as I could see one tube has an inside diameter 1.750" and the other has an outside diameter of 1 3/4", which anyone who knows their fractions and decimals will know is the same. Take into account the manufacturing tolerances and you're going to have a pretty snug fit if they fit at all.

jejeje

31st of December 2010 (Fri), 03:48

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/364/5/f/rig_test_by_jlz1-d360129.jpg
I love the arm hanging out! :-D

int2str

31st of December 2010 (Fri), 16:01

Here's a first driveway test with the eBay Army surplus antenna pole segments. It's very bouncy, but the shots seem pretty stable. I have to test a slightly slower shutter speed next time I think. And of course find a cleaner backdrop since this test shot is pretty un-photoshop-able.

But overall the rig seems to work well. Though I see a guide wire in my future...

StE823

31st of December 2010 (Fri), 21:59

just revised my portfolio site... lots of rigshot in the portfolio... lol

http://www.shutterlit.com

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5161/5309158516_1e52cfd6dc_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste823/5309158516/)

RL.

1st of January 2011 (Sat), 21:46

Would a focal length of 18mm on a cropper be wide enough for a rig shot? If not, what would be an ideal focal length(s)?

The Ran

1st of January 2011 (Sat), 22:29

At 18mm on a 1.6x crop body to fit in a 4 metre long car (Ford Escort for example) from the side (the widest you'd need, at a 3/4 angle it'd be narrower and from the front even more so) you'd need the camera to be about 3.25m/10.7ft from the car. So, if you can get a rig long enough it's possible.

KhanhD

1st of January 2011 (Sat), 23:25

Would a focal length of 18mm on a cropper be wide enough for a rig shot? If not, what would be an ideal focal length(s)?
Its real tough. If you search for my previous posts in this thread, I have a shot using a 18-55 on a 10' boom, and its pretty tight.

I prefer the 12-14 range on crop, 18-20 on full frame for rigging. Ill go as wide as 10/16 at times.

Candersson

2nd of January 2011 (Sun), 16:00

...
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/364/5/f/rig_test_by_jlz1-d360129.jpg

....

Cool with the arm...makes the car look really small... reminds me of the Fred Flintstone car :lol: :lol:

neil1138

2nd of January 2011 (Sun), 16:44

Would a focal length of 18mm on a cropper be wide enough for a rig shot? If not, what would be an ideal focal length(s)?

Im my experience, no, it would not be wide enough. Typically I shoot at 10mm (crop sensor) with my 12' rig, occasionally I pull out the 16' rig and use it. I want even wider, haha.

18mm would be good enough if you wanted to fill the entire frame with the car, and that produces bland rig photos imo.

Some of mine:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/neil1138/sets/72157624086603189/

neil1138

2nd of January 2011 (Sun), 18:52

12' - thats about 3.6m, and 16' - thats about 4.9m, right?

For my rig, i'm thinking of making 4 or 5 sections with a 1.5m lenght. Is that going to be enught for my G10?

Yes those are the right lengths.

4 or 5 sections adding up to 1.5m? Or 4/5 sections each at 1.5m? I hope it's the former because making a rig that long actually work well is a lot easier said than done. G10, I'm not familiar with that camera, I had to google it. 28mm, hmm, that might not be wide enough even if you had a 20 ft rig. It could work but it might not give a wide enough field of view. I'm a sucker for really wide rig photos so my opinion is skewed. Maybe someone else can chime in