Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

[Thameth]

What do the magnets look like? Pics?

[CorzyPhoto]

Can't get pics at the moment, but they are these:

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MM%2DD%2D60

[604Shooter]

Hey guys im planning on building my own rig, similar to aridans design, although i dont know if a tokina 10-17mm fisheye would be suitable for the shots. Does anyone have any experience with a setup similar to this?

[n1nj4 m0d3]

^ 10mm is perfect

[turbodude]

Hey guys im planning on building my own rig, similar to aridans design, although i dont know if a tokina 10-17mm fisheye would be suitable for the shots. Does anyone have any experience with a setup similar to this?


ehhh fisheye rig shot will be atrocious ... dont do it, get a real wide angle. if you want shots that sel dont do the fisheye for cars... Fisheyes should be left for large group shots of DJs and some weddings for novelty... not cars... Think back when was the last time you saw a fisheye of a car published?

[JustinL]

ehhh fisheye rig shot will be atrocious ... dont do it, get a real wide angle. if you want shots that sel dont do the fisheye for cars... Fisheyes should be left for large group shots of DJs and some weddings for novelty... not cars... Think back when was the last time you saw a fisheye of a car published?

Stupid Street magazine?:lol:

[604Shooter]

ya well i was just wondering because i was thinking of getting that for a dual purpose lens, for extreme sports shots and also a rig, but i guess not. What if it was defished? would that work?

[CorzyPhoto]

How do you defish a fisheye lens? :lol:

[Zilly]

How do you defish a fisheye lens? :lol:

with great care and a defishing hammer of course !

Defishing hammer (http://phoenixwoman.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/big-hammer.jpg)
use till glass is nice and flat and image is defished

[604Shooter]

I meant in PP, sorry :)

[aridan]

I meant in PP, sorry :)

Not sure what version of PS you use, but in CS3 at least:

Filter --> Distort --> Lens Correction --> Remove distortion :D

[604Shooter]

Haha, sorry i should have clarified earlier that i wasnt wondering how to defish, but rather i was wondering if i were to use a fish on a rig shot, do you think it would look fine if i were to de-fish the picture in PP? or would it still be weird?

[bpusrt4]

with great care and a defishing hammer of course !

Defishing hammer (http://phoenixwoman.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/big-hammer.jpg)
use till glass is nice and flat and image is defished

i laughed

[aridan]

Haha, sorry i should have clarified earlier that i wasnt wondering how to defish, but rather i was wondering if i were to use a fish on a rig shot, do you think it would look fine if i were to de-fish the picture in PP? or would it still be weird?

Not sure. There is an easy way to find out though. Take your fisheye out and take a picture of a car standing still from the angle you are planning to shoot with a rig. Snap the pic, get back inside, load it up in PS, and try the Lens distortion filter to see if it doesn't create artifacts when "defishing" the image :)

[CorzyPhoto]

I'm not sure if that would work so well as the blurring could play a big factor in CS3 and detecting the distortion..

[moorel]

The Fig Rig from Bogen / Manfrotto seems like a nice product to use with rigs to reduce friction at the end. Anyone got any experience with these?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/381894-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_595B_595B_Fig_Rig_Camera.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/542632-REG/Sini_Vision_QBU_02_QBU_02_Quick_Base_Universal_.ht ml

[CorzyPhoto]

:lol: That's baller equipment... I don't see why it wouldn't work though.

[moorel]

Baller equipment?

[99allturbo]

Got the parts in and took a few shots of the gear. I ended up buying another 5ft antenna mast (photo only shows 2). All 3 put together measure a little over 12ft. BTW. don't hate the bling gold poles. :lol:

No rolling rig shots yet since it was too bright out (even with a CP. I don't have a ND filter). Hope to get some rig shots later or tomorrow.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/CYPhoto_album/Other/IMG_1560_3.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/CYPhoto_album/Other/IMG_1564_3.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/CYPhoto_album/Other/IMG_1561_3.jpg

[turbodude]

That thing looks dangerous, its starting to bow already, i would suggest losing the grip to drop some weight.

[CorzyPhoto]

Baller equipment?

Expensive. Just those two parts together exceed $400... Then you have the other stuff to purchase for mounting...

[aridan]

i would suggest losing the grip to drop some weight.

+1

lose the grip, i only shoot with bare essentials.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

No rolling rig shots yet since it was too bright out (even with a CP. I don't have a ND filter). Hope to get some rig shots later or tomorrow.

have you tried a larger f stop? i agree with turbodude, you should ditch the grip and wrap the shoulder strap up.

[CorzyPhoto]

Hopefully my aluminum tubing ships out very soon... No one is interested in buying my magnets, so I might try a rather simple setup with them so I can get some shots in.

[99allturbo]

Yeah, the grip came off right after the photos. I don't get how people use magic arms which is heavier then the ball head I'm using. The strap was left that way just for the photos. Now that I bought another pole, I'll be able to put the cups further apart. That should help minimize the pole flexing. We'll see. As you guys already know, it's a lot of trial and error.

Even at a 1sec shutterspeed, f22 was not closed enough.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

try .3 second shutter. you should get a nice rolling effect from it

[n1nj4 m0d3]

should also use your xti instead of the 40d (save lots of weight :) )

[aridan]

I find 1.5-2 seconds exposure optimal. 3-4 seconds give out too much blur to my taste.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

I'm lovin these shots and the Daytona Blue looks good in these shots also.
thanks! my buddy parted his car and sold it for an evo mr. rig shots of his new car will come soon...

[CorzyPhoto]

How does he like the evo vs. the 350z??? I'm stuck between the two!

[n1nj4 m0d3]

go for the evo. can't go wrong with awd and turbo! i liked it so much i bought an evo also (but i just wanted a sedan) :P

[aridan]

Go with the 350Z if you like a GT cruiser, go with the EVO if you want a rocket go cart ;)

[CorzyPhoto]

Yeah... They are two different ball fields... I want a quick RWD so bad, but the sedan part has a big advantage. They both have to look good of course :)

Some other options I was looking at:
05+ Benz C230
03+ BMW M3
09 Mazda6
06+ 350z
EVO9

I want something with more luxury but still fast or somewhat fast.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

i would cross out the germans. too high of a cost for repair and you would need plenty of it. i was considering an 05+ e500 or e55 but the cost of repair is ridiculous. there is a reason why people sell their cars after the warranties are up. my roomie has an 05 c320 and that thing is literally falling apart. her side mirrors don't work anymore, her interior door latch is detached, and the ride is too bouncy. i also considered the cts-v but heard bad stories on those (bad rear differentials). 350z is just way too impractical. there's no trunk space (could only fit 1 wheel back there) and the interior is cramped. the dash is pretty high also and i'm 5'8" tall.

[Ed 718]

350z is just way too impractical. there's no trunk space (could only fit 1 wheel back there) and the interior is cramped. the dash is pretty high also and i'm 5'8" tall.

That is why I use my Xb for a daily. I struggle on my Z to even carry what I need to take rigs shots.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

yeah, my rig barely fits in the evo. glad i'm keeping my integra (hatches FTMFW!!!!) :)

[PTHONG]

I hate 350z's, :lol: I test drove one when i thought about trading in my is300. No space at all, i felt like the car was going to crush me and the transmission feels sloppy. I'm about 5'10''. I hate you guys with your rigs, i need to make one:D

[CorzyPhoto]

Hater. ;)

But yeah. I'm either considering a 06+ IS250 or a EVO9...

[DEMO]

Evo IX get my vote.. I had a White Evo 8, and so far thats been the best car i've ever owned.

[CorzyPhoto]

I might be leaning a little more on the luxury side..

[Samdiver74]

I almost bought an Evo IX MR but ended up settling for a Mazdaspeed 6, (for $7000 less) it is the best of both worlds in my opinion.
The new Evo X has no trunk at all.
Mazdaspeed 3 is probably one of the best bang for buck cars out there right now.

[Si-aficionado]

Hello everyone!
First, thanks to all of you for posting and sharing your ideas on your rigs. I was very glad to find this thread since I've always wanted to take these shots of my car and didn't know where to start. Everyone I asked on the car forums kept their designs pretty much top secret. Go figure..lol
Anyways, I already have the aluminum tubing and the tripod ball head, but I'm thinking of going a diferent route with the suction cups, eliminating the need of having to buy the clamps. With that said I wanted to share these I found on the web, hopefully what I have in mind will work..
http://i25.tinypic.com/2l8g80h.jpg
The cups are 4.5" in diameter and are tested @ 40lb. I figure if I get two, the weight distribution should be more than enough to hold my D50 and the rest of the gear. My only concern is the length of the stud which is 5/8". Not bad, but I'd like it to be a bit longer. I will contact the manufacturer to see if I can replace them with longer ones.

[moorel]

These suction cups are probably okey, but maybe you will run into the same problem because they're not adjustable

Check this thread:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=456002

[CorzyPhoto]

Hopefully my aluminum tubing comes in soon! If not I might have to look around locally for some tubing... If I did buy some tubing locally, would anyone be interested in buying the tubing that will be/is on the way to my house?

[Mark1]

Im close to building mine. Just a simple truss design. Ill show it when its done. Hope fully next week.

[CorzyPhoto]

Truss design eh? This could be interesting. Looking forward to seeing your rig.

[clean-car-shots]

hey guys just found this thread i was looking to build a kit, i was going to go with an under car rib but given the fact that cars these days that are worth to photograph are basically on the ground. so im going to with an industrial suction cup setup. who is looking for those suction cups cause it seems like no one had a link... here they are, yes i am a god lol JK http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/productIndex.shtml?operator=prodIndexRefinementSea rch&originalValue=suction+cup&L1=Cups%2C

[clean-car-shots]

oh sorry for double post, hope fuly it will be done in a couple of days still have to go to grainger to buy a cup or two then off to homedepot

[z3speed4me]

why would you get those ones from grainger when you can get the same type that people have successfully been using on here for like half that price?

[clean-car-shots]

where??

[z3speed4me]

the suction cups on that site are like 100+ dollars, I have yet to see another cup cost that much!

[clean-car-shots]

dude its 79 bucks abs holds 125 lb each.... doesnt have to be metal

[n1nj4 m0d3]

go with the metal ones. i have both the plastic and metal and the plastic ones are cheap and doesn't work as well as the metal ones. metal ones stick better and hold their suction. it took 3 pumps to get full suction from the metal ones and 5 pumps to get the plastic ones to stick.

[moacur]

Great info everyone :cool: I've been shooting cars for quite sometime. I'm a big fan of hanging dangerously out the window at 60+ MPH on the freeway taking rolling shots :D I've always been intriqued by rig shots and now I have the means to get the supplies together and make one. Thanks everyone!

[CorzyPhoto]

You do know you don't have to go 60 mph to get that motion look, right? Maybe you need to learn a little more about pairing up ISO, shutter speed, and aperture...

[moacur]

Yes I do... but it is much more fun going 60+ :)

[CorzyPhoto]

Yes I do... but it is much more fun going 60+ :)

Risking your life or camera? :rolleyes: lol

[PhotosGuy]

Yes I do... but it is much more fun going 60+ Check your family tree? There's probably a dog gene in there somewhere? :D

[moacur]

:p LOL!

Back on topic :D

[Si-aficionado]

Back on topic indeed :)
Ok, so I did a little change of plans.. went to home depot and got a 10 feet aluminum conduit pipe 3/4" thickness(yes, they do have aluminum pipes) and with a 3/8-1.5" bolt, some washers and a pair of nuts "no pun intended" I made this:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2e6h2fn.jpg
detail
http://i25.tinypic.com/w1fxnn.jpg
what I like about having the ballhead bolted directly onto the pipe is that the camera doesn't hang all the way down, has less weight and reduces swing..
As far as suction cups go, I found this guy online who was selling a pair of the big power grips and couldn't get a better deal, $50 for both(these suckers supposedly hold 120 lb each, more than enough suction to hold my gear). Now I just have to figure out a way to attach the pipe to the suction cups.
http://i26.tinypic.com/2jw3kl.jpg

[Si-aficionado]

Question guys. What combination of shutter speed and aperture are you using? What should I set the camera to? Program, Manual, Shutter or Aperture priority? I have tried every single combination playing with the speed and the aperture, but no matter what I do, all my shots end up over exposed! Is it because there's still too much light outside? Any help is appreciated..

[Mark1]

It is no different than any other subject. Set what you want then adjust the rest. In this case we know we want a slow shutter. Tv or manual will work. Then adjust the aperature to the aproprate setting. It will be determined by how much light wou have available to shoot with.

If your needle is in the middle you are OK. Perfect results my dictate other wise. But center is a good start.

[Si-aficionado]

Thanks, I guess what I'm trying to say is:
Given that one's using such a slow shutter speed, can one take a shot like this at 2:00pm in the afternoon?

[CorzyPhoto]

You should also look into getting a graduated ND filter.

BTW - I got my tubing today!! :) I am going to try and fabricate my old design and take some pics some time this week.

[JustinL]

Or just a regular ND filter (Sometimes I've had to stack 3 at a time when shooting mid-day.

[Zilly]

a CPL will also do a good job

[JustinL]

a CPL will also do a good job

It may help a bit, but not for afternoon sun.

[Zilly]

Still gunna nock off a good one to two stops of light

[Si-aficionado]

Hmm, stack 3 filters eh? I didn't think you could actually shoot rig shots at noon..
Anyways, not the best shot/angle, but this is what I came up with. PS would be nice, but what I have is a mickey mouse editing program for now :(
http://i30.tinypic.com/20as8ih.jpg
And here's the rig on the car. I was going to put it on top, but I have sun roof and I would have to get a longer pole.
http://i29.tinypic.com/25k7qex.jpg
I guess it's not bad for a first try. It'll improve with practice and a difernt rig position.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

Or just a regular ND filter (Sometimes I've had to stack 3 at a time when shooting mid-day.
not possible with wide angle lenses (i guess you can crop the edges off) :(

nice shot and nice car, si-aficionado. i bet it would look 2x better if you had ps

[Si-aficionado]

not possible with wide angle lenses (i guess you can crop the edges off) :(

nice shot and nice car, si-aficionado. i bet it would look 2x better if you had ps

That's what I thought since we are using such a slow shutter speed, unless some one takes the shot driving next to you, then again we're talking about rigs here

Yes, PS would be nice, I have a friend who says will give me a copy..we'll see. How long have you had your teg? Looks very clean!

[Si-aficionado]

n1nj4 m0d3, I was checking your flickr page, you got some skillz mang!

[JustinL]

not possible with wide angle lenses (i guess you can crop the edges off) :(

nice shot and nice car, si-aficionado. i bet it would look 2x better if you had ps


Clone stamp the vignetting;) Come on! You know that!!!:lol:

[n1nj4 m0d3]

Yes, PS would be nice, I have a friend who says will give me a copy..we'll see. How long have you had your teg? Looks very clean!
oh, that wasn't my teg in the first page. that was my buddy's teg. this is my teg:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2333796524_eff08c055b_o.jpg

and my teg after the oem kit was stolen :( :
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2306/2420651940_bcfe66ffa0_o.jpg

thanks for the compliment on my flickr. there are a few pics that i'm not very fond of :confused:

Clone stamp the vignetting;) Come on! You know that!!!:lol:
good point!!!! :p

[CorzyPhoto]

That sucks about your lip... I would wreck their lip if they did that to me (if I knew who it was :?)

[Si-aficionado]

Welcome. I can relate to your front lip.. mine lasted two weeks on my old EMII before it got stolen. I was so pissed. Not that I dislike my Si, but I should have invested on a K20 and drop it onto it. This is what it looked like:
http://i31.tinypic.com/25p34o6.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2evrjfk.jpg

[amits1988]

Where did you guys get your poles from? Sorry if I missed that post.

[CorzyPhoto]

You can get aluminum tubing in various places.. eBay, local welding shops (that deal with aluminum welding).. and apparently Home Depot has aluminum conduit tubing as well. I got my tubing from eBay, they were poles used for military tent posts.. and boy are they strong and light!!!

[amits1988]

Do you happen to have the eBay link? I will probably check out Home Depot this weekend and see what they got.

Thanks!

[CorzyPhoto]

Do you happen to have the eBay link? I will probably check out Home Depot this weekend and see what they got.

Thanks!

Too bad the person selling the tubing doesn't have any more tubing up on ebay.. just search "aluminum tubing" or "aluminum pipe".

[disboifan]

Hmm, stack 3 filters eh? I didn't think you could actually shoot rig shots at noon..
Anyways, not the best shot/angle, but this is what I came up with. PS would be nice, but what I have is a mickey mouse editing program for now :(
http://i30.tinypic.com/20as8ih.jpg
And here's the rig on the car. I was going to put it on top, but I have sun roof and I would have to get a longer pole.
http://i29.tinypic.com/25k7qex.jpg
I guess it's not bad for a first try. It'll improve with practice and a difernt rig position.

wow how well does that pole hold up?

[Si-aficionado]

wow how well does that pole hold up?

:) Pretty nice actually.. you'll think it'd slide out of the suction cups but at the time I took the rolling shot the pole was held with straps

[disboifan]

looks like it gets the job done nicely. could use an uwa lens though =p

[CorzyPhoto]

Can't wait to get my rig working - probably doing something with it today. I'll be using the magnets at first.

[romasas]

halo i bin new hir, and my ingland language is wery bad, her is my try:
and i will ask wat linse yuors use to made rigschots?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2616350212_fe192aba87.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2613723173_236f43894a.jpg?v=0

[moorel]

halo i bin new hir, and my ingland language is wery bad, her is my try:
and i will ask wat linse yuors use to made rigschots? I'm using mostly my 17-40mm f/4 L USM with my 1D Mark III for rigshots. Seems like you have alot of dust on your sensor :)

[CorzyPhoto]

Seems like you have alot of dust on your sensor :)

I was just going to say that :lol: It looks like I'm going to be finishing my rig today w00t

[n1nj4 m0d3]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2613723173_236f43894a.jpg?v=0
i like this shot and editing (minus the sensor dust) :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2619559655_ff46cf39e4_o.jpg

[CorzyPhoto]

Nice shot, I just think the wheels could be a little brighter.

[CorzyPhoto]

GREAT SUCCESS (so far)
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0701/borat_lebanon0109.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/10xymnb.jpg

[disboifan]

that is pretty close to the wheel...

[CorzyPhoto]

I can position it anywhere ;)

[n1nj4 m0d3]

GREAT SUCCESS (so far)


http://i30.tinypic.com/10xymnb.jpg
your car isn't moving, lol. congrats for your mounting success anyways. now go take some pics when it's darker out (TONIGHT!) :)

[CorzyPhoto]

your car isn't moving, lol. congrats for your mounting success anyways. now go take some pics when it's darker out (TONIGHT!) :)

:lol: Didn't get a chance to tonight, I still need two more things to be completely done with the rig. But whoever said the magnets don't work, need stronger ones.. I have to take my rig off via prying off with one of the aluminum poles and keeping it down with something heavy.

[quickster]

rough one

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2620168338_4d8af112b9_o.jpg

it was the first shot of the night...others will follow soon.

[PhotosGuy]

romasas, Nice 1st shot here!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Welcome-ChargerRT_020.gif

[romasas]

romasas, Nice 1st shot here!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/PhotosGuy/Forum%20Junk/Welcome-ChargerRT_020.gif

thanks wery :)
and its my next foto,

thanks for all, I her find info, and made my ring :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2616246099_735a1feb39.jpg?v=0

[TungTLe]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_1621.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_1624.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_7770.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_2067.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_1997.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_0567.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_0440.jpg

[romasas]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_1621.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_1624.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_7770.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_2067.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_1997.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_0567.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/idynastys13/IMG_0440.jpg


ooo super fotos,
wat of technik usig you, to remove ring from foto.
for my its wery complicated.
thanks :)

[quickster]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/2624411504_4e28595942_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2619864859_792c7945ee_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2620168338_4d8af112b9_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/2625220593_05527b05f5_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2624407688_d00288cf74_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2623561481_a4071457e9_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2623583555_bcb4770767_o.jpg

[Sonic Infidel]

Wow...those s2000 shots are really fresh. I dig the angles a lot.

[CorzyPhoto]

Nice shots, quickster... but you need to work on cloning that rig out :)

[PTHONG]

god i hate you guys :lol: I have my design, i just need to pick up parts. Corzy, what magnets are you using and where did you get them??

[CorzyPhoto]

PS - More of the Acura RSX/"Integra" pleaseeeee! :p

[CorzyPhoto]

god i hate you guys :lol: I have my design, i just need to pick up parts. Corzy, what magnets are you using and where did you get them??

Shhhh... Don't tell anyone ;)

[PTHONG]

Shhhh... Don't tell anyone ;)]

your link is secret safe with me :lol: ry046?

[CorzyPhoto]

Now that you know where, edit your post so the site is gone please :)

[CorzyPhoto]

Anyhow... First shot!!! Yes, I know.. 1. my sensor is dirty, it has been dirty for ages. 2. I don't have photoshop on this computer (so I had someone clone for me):(

But all in all, I think it turned out pretty damn good for my first try :)

http://i28.tinypic.com/15sa1s5.jpg

PS - I know the composition and everything else could be better. I was just going for sharpness in this pic.. I think I got what I was looking for

[aridan]

Anyhow... First shot!!! Yes, I know.. 1. my sensor is dirty, it has been dirty for ages. 2. I don't have photoshop on this computer (so I had someone clone for me):(

But all in all, I think it turned out pretty damn good for my first try :)

http://i28.tinypic.com/15sa1s5.jpg

PS - I know the composition and everything else could be better. I was just going for sharpness in this pic.. I think I got what I was looking for

FINALLY! Looks good! :D

[JustinL]

PS - I know the composition and everything else could be better. I was just going for sharpness in this pic.. I think I got what I was looking for

So let's see one that IS composed for what you want. Pic isn't bad for a starter.

[CorzyPhoto]

You will.. :lol: I was just anxious to test it out and I was lacking time.

[PTHONG]

Now that you know where, edit your post so the site is gone please :)

my bad :D did i have the right magnet?

[CorzyPhoto]

I gave you the pencil, now draw with it :)

[PTHONG]

will do :D

[JustinL]

Test shot for my buddy -- BEFORE paint obviously!! LOL

http://libanophotos.com/Nick/nick_movies.jpg

I know the hood's blown out -- doesn't matter

[CorzyPhoto]

Old news ;)

ps - You have dust on your sensor

[moacur]

Shot looks good!

[JustinL]

Old news ;)

ps - You have dust on your sensor

Specs on the picture dont always mean the sensor. Could be one of the 3 ND filters I stacked.:lol:

[PTHONG]

Specs on the picture dont always mean the sensor. Could be one of the 3 ND filters I stacked.:lol:

:lol: i dont think you have enough, throw another 3 on there.:p

[CorzyPhoto]

One of my friends truck the other night:

http://i31.tinypic.com/m99llf.jpg

[aridan]

One of my friends truck the other night:

http://i31.tinypic.com/m99llf.jpg

The truck itself came out good but I think the exposure was a tad too long. Too much blur to the point you can't really convey movement (other than the small portion of the building in the background). Without a busy background, a 2.5 sec. exposure may be too long imo. :)

[CorzyPhoto]

That's why I made the exposure a tad longer than I would normally with a clean background :) and thanks

[Mark1]

The exposure time depends on the speed of the car. 2.5 could be perfect at the right speed.

[JustinL]

One of my friends truck the other night:



From the side mirror back, the truck is out of focus.

[PTHONG]

From the side mirror back, the truck is out of focus.

yeah, i would consider throwing a person to sit in the driver seat also. Rig shots look weird when a driver is not present.

[CorzyPhoto]

The car was "out of focus" from that point on because my rig was bouncing like crazy! lol I'm still in the testing phases and taking all of your comments as constructive critisism. I'll show you guys more later on.

[aridan]

The car was "out of focus" from that point on because my rig was bouncing like crazy! lol I'm still in the testing phases and taking all of your comments as constructive critisism. I'll show you guys more later on.

I agree. EXIF reads f7.1 - It's not out of focus, it motion blur from the bouncing rig.

[Mark1]

I have never heard of selective motion blur. How do you set up for that? ;)

[PTHONG]

I agree. EXIF reads f7.1 - It's not out of focus, it motion blur from the bouncing rig.

camera was probably further back and maybe the image was cropped a bit??

[CorzyPhoto]

Image wasn't cropped... and I shot that at 18mm, so it had to be close. Since the camera was close to the car and had a lot of bounce, the front of the car was focused and the rear (since it was further away) showed the bounce. I might try some more rig shots today.

[CorzyPhoto]

Here's another with a different friend's car on the same night.

http://i29.tinypic.com/3492icy.jpg

[aridan]

Here's another with a different friend's car on the same night.

http://i29.tinypic.com/3492icy.jpg

Not long enough exposure? :oops:

The wall in the back distracts from the motion. The bottom part of the screen shows motion, but the wall in the background (trunk side), counters the effect.

[n1nj4 m0d3]

Here's another with a different friend's car on the same night.

http://i29.tinypic.com/3492icy.jpg
not too shabby except for the composition and iso noise. with a bit of editing this shot can be really good :)

[Mark1]

Could be a be whiter as well. Every thing is gray.

[Thameth]

Why ISO1600?

[Thameth]

I have never heard of selective motion blur. How do you set up for that? ;)

Its probably because part of the bounce or shaking of the camera was actually twist. Thats how one side can blur while the other doesn't, you get that alot in panning when a car is mid curve while shooting to low of a shutter speed.

[moacur]

Tried my first round at rig shots last night after throwing a rig together this week. My first attemps were minimal at least.. Too much camera movement :(

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/2637315207_b619dff1a8_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2637316649_3fe02e0988_b.jpg

and then there was round 2 tonight. After a bit of messing with the rig I think I found something that can make it work. Now, I just need to find a very smooth parking lot with a nice background and it will be $$$$$ Hopefully :)

Tonight- Could use a little work but not bad for a second attemp...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2640356187_3223063d8c_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2641184754_12ff6db26d_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2640356545_5733d1868c_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2640358419_cf1ddb93a3_b.jpg

Once I'm out of my driveway and in front of my house on the street I can try some different angles too as the pole is mighty long! Just need to get the car a bit more in focus. Nothing some practice won't help...

[Thameth]

Holy cow you got some distance on that first shot! Which UAW are you using? Sigma or Canon?

[Mightykhoa]

quickster- can you post your rig for me please?

[Mightykhoa]

sorry for double post
how long are the tubes usually suppose to be and ballhead/clampdhead?

will doing rig shots and sticking them on the paint scratching it?

[n1nj4 m0d3]

Why ISO1600?
finally read the exif on that pic. i would def try to shoot at lower iso and a lower f stop also...

moacur is on the right track with the iso/f stop/shutter/etc. good job on #4 :) just need to find a more stable pole or smoother road

[n1nj4 m0d3]

will doing rig shots and sticking them on the paint scratching it?
suction cups will not leave marks if you clean the car off first. i also don't recommend sticking the cups on freshly painted cars (wait at least 3 weeks!)...

[rigshots]

... i also don't recommend sticking the cups on freshly painted cars (wait at least 3 weeks!)...

Why do you say that, has something happened?

JJ

[s2kologist]

moacur did you push the car in the pics or where you drving the car?

[moacur]

Pics were taken with a Sigma 10-20mm

Day 2 we drove the car very slowly...As long as the road is smooth. The camera stays still. As soon as you hit a bump it definitely moves around a bit. I'm waiting on my shutter remote cable. Once I have this I will try pushing the car and walking along with it and hitting the button. Should be much easier then setting the 10second timer, pushing the car and hoping that the camera is still by the time it goes off :lol:

Anyone care to p-shop the rig out for me on #4?

[aridan]

Pics were taken with a Sigma 10-20mm

Day 2 we drove the car very slowly...As long as the road is smooth. The camera stays still. As soon as you hit a bump it definitely moves around a bit. I'm waiting on my shutter remote cable. Once I have this I will try pushing the car and walking along with it and hitting the button. Should be much easier then setting the 10second timer, pushing the car and hoping that the camera is still by the time it goes off :lol:

Anyone care to p-shop the rig out for me on #4?


Good start. I'd definitely recommend on getting a wireless remote trigger for these shots, but don't push the car, sit behind the wheel. There is nothing weirder than a car driving by itself...

[moacur]

Thanks and Agreed. Even when we were pushing the car.. There was a driver.. I think the remote should help a bit :cool: Practice makes perfect!

[n1nj4 m0d3]

Why do you say that, has something happened?

JJ

yeah, it left a ring where the suction cup was on the car but eventually the ring disappeared. i just won't take that risk again on fresh paint :)

Pics were taken with a Sigma 10-20mm

Day 2 we drove the car very slowly...As long as the road is smooth. The camera stays still. As soon as you hit a bump it definitely moves around a bit. I'm waiting on my shutter remote cable. Once I have this I will try pushing the car and walking along with it and hitting the button. Should be much easier then setting the 10second timer, pushing the car and hoping that the camera is still by the time it goes off :lol:

Anyone care to p-shop the rig out for me on #4?
yes, get a wireless remote and drive it while taking the shots. keep pressing the shutter release button so you can get as many shots in as possible in one drive. pushing it and still keeping a 1.3 second shutter will not yeild the results you want and a longer shutter (you would probably need 7+ second shutter) while pushing the car will produce just as much bounce as if you were behind the wheel in the first place.

[moacur]

Makes sense. The ones in front of my house like #4 definitely turned out the best. Going probaby 5mph with the 1.3sec shutter.. This one could have been good. I was pulling in the driveway and the end of the driveway is not flat. I am going to go out tonight and find a nice flat, snooth parking lot and try some shots again..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2642159790_8433d212da.jpg

I promise I won't post anymore until I have some good ones. LOL!

[PTHONG]

not the greatest but its a start
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2554/264118475412ff6db26dogd3.jpg