Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

[Zilly]

So what OD & gauge Aluminium tubing would anyone care to recommend? I've got a supplier in mind but they couldn't advise on what was best for this purpose!

I'm looking at 3meters worth.


Thanks.

this is what you want CLICK (http://www.metals4u.co.uk/detail.asp?Cat_ID=22&Prd_ID=727)

[aridan]

Anyone mounting there rigs underneath that cars??

Much more cumbersome and involved process.

[erickim080387]

C&C please.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/erickim080387/DSC_0006-1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/erickim080387/DSC_0010-4-1.jpg

[zacm7]

so i looked through about 30 different pages and didnt see any motorcycle shots. anyone ever rig a 2 wheeler? the only other vehicle i saw was the golf cart.

[Zilly]

so i looked through about 30 different pages and didnt see any motorcycle shots. anyone ever rig a 2 wheeler? the only other vehicle i saw was the golf cart.

I have plans too that and a kart when i have some free time

[zacm7]

i think i might make a journey to the home depot tomorrow afternoon and see what kind of rig i can set up.

[VincentPeete]

Much more cumbersome and involved process.

How is it cumbersome? It seems to be more work photoshopping the rig out of the shot if it is on the hood or roof.

[aaronpass]

so i looked through about 30 different pages and didnt see any motorcycle shots. anyone ever rig a 2 wheeler? the only other vehicle i saw was the golf cart.

Here is one of my rig shots from a motorcycle. Mine is the only one I have seen on this forum of the whole bike, not too common.

[aridan]

Here is one of my rig shots from a motorcycle. Mine is the only one I have seen on this forum of the whole bike, not too common.

Great shot! Do you have a behind the scene of it? I'm curious to see what it looks like :)

[jcolman]

Great shot! Do you have a behind the scene of it? I'm curious to see what it looks like :)

Me too. I've built a rig for my car (see first page for pics) and plan on building for my bike sometime.

[Deanphoto]

so i looked through about 30 different pages and didnt see any motorcycle shots. anyone ever rig a 2 wheeler? the only other vehicle i saw was the golf cart.

http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=25109

[jcolman]

http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=25109

Some nice shots there but I'm looking specifically for a rig that holds the camera away from the bike so as to include the entire bike. I've got all the suction pumps and magnets. I just need to sit down and figure out how and where to mount a rig then build it.

I may take my car rig apart and use it.

[Sonic Infidel]

http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=25109


That last photo is fantastic! Nice find!

[Ed 718]

C&C please.



Very nice pictures but a greenish / yellowish hue on them. :D

[photosonly]

so i looked through about 30 different pages and didnt see any motorcycle shots. anyone ever rig a 2 wheeler? the only other vehicle i saw was the golf cart.


not a rig, but panning of a cbr600rr
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/erickim080387/DSC_0005.jpg

[Zilly]

not a rig, but panning of a cbr600rr
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/erickim080387/DSC_0005.jpg

not the same thing at all

[BlackMICA]

Wow. Tons of awesome information here. I've got to start reading. Here's an article I put together on rigshots

http://www.ob-photo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/07_mazda_mazdaspeed3_1.jpg

Everything you need to know about rigshots (http://www.ob-photo.com/2008/08/automotive-photography/helpful-article-everything-you-need-to-know-about-rigshots/)

[rob200sx]

Well, I found an old clothes line pole in the garage, 2 meters in length with a 1 1/4" OD and 2mm wall.

Worked quite well, it doesn't flex, in fact the only bounce came dependant on where the suction cups were placed on the bonnet, being in the middle giving the most amount of bounce as expected.

I now need to stabilise the sidewards movement to make it much more solid
I'll eventually aim for a 3meter pole to use plus supporting poles either side to stop sidewards movement

http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/DSCN0758.jpg
http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/DSCN0759.jpg
http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/DSCN0760.jpg
http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/IMG_0005_4.jpg
http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/IMG_0008_2.jpg
http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/IMG_0008_3.jpg
http://www.shutter-life.co.uk/web/rig/IMG_0031.jpg

[aridan]

^^ Man that is one scary setup! :D But it WORKS! :D :D :D

[moacur]

Now that I have my car back I decided to break out the rig again and give er another try. Lighting was a bit tough so the rear got blown a bit but I still think they turned out OK..Gives me some inspiration for what they could be next time I give it a whirl. Practice makes perfect :D

Here are a couple I thought I would share...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2774515630_1c82e58a5a_b.jpg



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/2774561390_7d84a6b001_b.jpg

[Devil427]

amazing works i need to get up to do something with my tripods

[KenTT]

Well, I found an old clothes line pole in the garage, 2 meters in length with a 1 1/4" OD and 2mm wall.

Worked quite well, it doesn't flex, in fact the only bounce came dependant on where the suction cups were placed on the bonnet, being in the middle giving the most amount of bounce as expected.

I now need to stabilise the sidewards movement to make it much more solid
I'll eventually aim for a 3meter pole to use plus supporting poles either side to stop sidewards movement


Hey Rob

Your getting there :), your also going to need a ND filter on that lens if this weather gets any brighter.

[aznvintagewear]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g101/aznvintagewear/peter%20stuff/hhhhcopy.jpg

[johnjayb]

i want a rig...

[BIGTUFFGUY]

i want a rig...
build one.:oops:

[EGD]

Just spent past 2 days going throught the whole thread. what a amazing thread. just email adorma and hope they will ship internationally.

OK, so here as promised, are my 'behind the scenes' pics.

Pretty basic and almost identical to Dean's rig with the exception of the type of pole used and minus the magic arm.

Components:

1 x 10' EMT pole - $8 *** see note bellow ***
2 x Avenger F1000 suction cups - $97
3 x Manfrotto super clamps - $75
1 x Manfrotto 484 Micro ball head - $45

Total Cost: $225 :)


*** the pics bellow show a painter's pole, which I have since returned and replaced with a 10' EMT pipe. The bounce on the painter's pole was too much to my liking. Otherwise, my setup is identical to what you see bellow with the exception of the pole ***


Aridan: u r the man, thanks heaps for putting this shopping list up :)

[s2kologist]

I just got my suction cup rig today, so I went out to test it. I need to get a EMT pole. The painter pole I used flexes WAY too much. I pushed the car and had the camera on self timer, a wireless shutter button would really help out. I did not want to test out the rig with my 40d/17-55 so I used my old XT with kit lens. I had not used it in a while so I forgot to set it to shoot in RAW. Here is the first pic out of the camera. I cant wait to try it out again with the EMT pole.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/s2kologist/rig-resize.jpg

[aridan]

Aridan: u r the man, thanks heaps for putting this shopping list up :)

No problem. Good luck and make sure to come back with some pics! :D

[s2kologist]

i picked up a 1" EMT pole today. it is really heavy. i wanted the 1 1/4" but it was much heaiver. anyone having problems with this set up? maybe i should add a 3rd suction cup.

[aridan]

i picked up a 1" EMT pole today. it is really heavy. i wanted the 1 1/4" but it was much heaiver. anyone having problems with this set up? maybe i should add a 3rd suction cup.

As long as you good high quality suction cups such as the Avenger F1000 you'll be fine. I never had my cups give way to the EMT. Also, when mounting the camera go light. If you have a grip, get rid of it.

[Pterps]

I made this picture a few years ago with my cheapo € 15,- rig, I hope to get a new decent rig within a few months.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x11/pterps/2107byPterps281aanZW800.jpg

[ali kirk]

Well after much following of this thread and being very impressed with the results - i set to making my own rig.
My costs were very low - only had to buy the suction cups from local DIY store (B&Q - UK). everything else was at hand in my workshop. (All those years of collecting and hoarding junk finally pay off!!)
the main beam is made from a couple of scrap aluminium poles from a mobile working platform ( tower scaffold) which had been scrapped by a local hire centre due to being dented and slighly bent. 2" dia with around 1/16" wall thickness.
the rest is jubilee clips and wire rope (do not use normal copper cable - it will stretch until it fails) This wire rope is used for emergency stop pull wires along conveyors etc.
My camera mount pole is the centre lleg from my old UNILOCK tripod.
Was going to mount my new 40D but settled for the lighter G9 on self timer.
Here's a couple before and after pics.
Still a bit too much wobble for my liking probs due to using a 4X4 with uprated suspension and off road tyres??

Ali

[702brent]

so i ordered some parts up, but i decided to use the 486rc2 (supports 13.xlbs)ballhead instead of the 484 (supports around 8lbs.) that most people go with. my question is on the camera end, the super clamp can hold up to 33lbs according to avengers product description. my camera set up (on rig) is a gripped 40d with 16-35. it feels around 8.5lbs-9.5lbs. i need to weigh the setup in, but would you trust that on a magic arm? it really only supports 8.8lbs, and theres no room for mistake at this point as i cant afford any mistakes, is there any other options, or anyone that uses a similar setup on a magic arm?

[s2kologist]

take off the grip to save weight. i used a 40d with 17-55 and did not have any problems.

[aridan]

Well after much following of this thread and being very impressed with the results - i set to making my own rig.
My costs were very low - only had to buy the suction cups from local DIY store (B&Q - UK). everything else was at hand in my workshop. (All those years of collecting and hoarding junk finally pay off!!)
the main beam is made from a couple of scrap aluminium poles from a mobile working platform ( tower scaffold) which had been scrapped by a local hire centre due to being dented and slighly bent. 2" dia with around 1/16" wall thickness.
the rest is jubilee clips and wire rope (do not use normal copper cable - it will stretch until it fails) This wire rope is used for emergency stop pull wires along conveyors etc.
My camera mount pole is the centre lleg from my old UNILOCK tripod.
Was going to mount my new 40D but settled for the lighter G9 on self timer.
Here's a couple before and after pics.
Still a bit too much wobble for my liking probs due to using a 4X4 with uprated suspension and off road tyres??

Ali

Looks like one heavy rig, but great result!

[ali kirk]

Looks like one heavy rig, but great result!

thanks for that!

the rig does look heavy - but it's very light. never actually weighed it but to give some idea - the whole rig, about 5meters long, can be easily held with one outstretched arm without straining - and i'm no weightlifter!
The tubing is thin wall aluminium, and has held with two cheap suction mounts wihtout falling off - yet!! - but just to be safe - I strap an elastic bungee cord around the opposite end of the rig and secure it under the car wing

[702brent]

take off the grip to save weight. i used a 40d with 17-55 and did not have any problems.

yeah, i figured that. I actually ordered a 486rc2, but then ordered a 143rc2 magic arm w/release. i'll try out both setups. thanks!

[Studio68]

Can anyone give me the tubing diameter used on the Automotiverig design car rig?

[StE823]

just built my rig this morning... will shoot more when the sun goes down tonight :)
C&C welcome!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/2817996175_ecdc7e6cbe.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3100/2818842882_645996a563.jpg

[Zilly]

Can anyone give me the tubing diameter used on the Automotiverig design car rig?

2 inch od

[EGD]

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know whether adorma do international shipping? they state they do on their website, however i m no having much luck contacting with them.

I have sent them 2 emails (to their sales) and 1 to their service email to order some F1000 pump cup but no reply. Is there any other place where i can get them from? Thank you

[BIGTUFFGUY]

just built my rig this morning... will shoot more when the sun goes down tonight :)
C&C welcome!


pics of rig in question please.

[byronc]

hey guys i need some help/advice on how to better clone out the rig. Any tips?

original thread:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=562350


Originals:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/01dc2/IMG_3018esmall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/01dc2/IMG_3029esmall.jpg


My poor attempt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/01dc2/IMG_3018etest.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/01dc2/IMG_3029etest.jpg

[Ed 718]

Wow. Tons of awesome information here. I've got to start reading. Here's an article I put together on rigshots

Everything you need to know about rigshots (http://www.ob-photo.com/2008/08/automotive-photography/helpful-article-everything-you-need-to-know-about-rigshots/)

Oliver is that you............haha :lol:

[BlackMICA]

Oliver is that you............haha :lol:

You know it bud. :)

[Ed 718]

You know it bud. :)

See what you did you got me hooked on this photography thing. I just finished my rig myself but need to learn the photoshop aspect of it.

[BlackMICA]

See what you did you got me hooked on this photography thing. I just finished my rig myself but need to learn the photoshop aspect of it.

Did you read that little write up I did?

http://www.ob-photo.com/2008/08/automotive-photography/helpful-article-everything-you-need-to-know-about-rigshots/

Just play around with the clone tool. Experiment with opacity and hardness too. Try and envision the photoshop work you'll have to do as well when you mount the rig. A lot of times moving the rig just a little bit makes it a whole lot easier to photoshop. You'll get it.

[Silverludebb6]

So do the Avenger F1000 cups w/ 5/8th spigot match right up with the Manfrotto Super Clamps?? I see 3 different choices of clamps. Theres w/o a stud, with a stud, and with a reverse stud. Which one do I get? I thought I read that the stud is 1/4"... so then I would need some sort of adapter?? Help. lol

Brian

[rmd photography]

Ok stupid question time. How are you guys firing the shutter? I know like the 30d doesnt have a wireless remote.

[RadAL]

Ok stupid question time. How are you guys firing the shutter? I know like the 30d doesnt have a wireless remote.

probably cable releases

[BlackMICA]

Ok stupid question time. How are you guys firing the shutter? I know like the 30d doesnt have a wireless remote.

I just use the timer on my 30D

[rigshots]

So do the Avenger F1000 cups w/ 5/8th spigot match right up with the Manfrotto Super Clamps??

Yes, you don't need any adapters or any other part. The Manfrotto 035 is designed to mate to any 5/8th or 16mm male stud.

[jejeje]

Thanks for all the tips in this thread, it's been very helpful. This is my first try with a rig and full car shot. Of course it was way too early in the evening so the sky is totally blown out, but I just wanted to do a proof of concept and try out the rig which mainly consists of manfrotto avengers, superclamps and a aluminum telescope broom. Also, when I got home I realized that I had alot of dirt on the filter on the 10-22 so I had to PP that all out, which again set motivation for PPing the rig to a minimum ;-) The whole experience was still interesting enough and I will be doing it again under better condition (and I _WILL_ check my equipment next time!).

Anyway, here they are.

#1
http://jeje.je/pix/misc/speed1.jpg

#2
http://jeje.je/pix/misc/speed2.jpg

#3
http://jeje.je/pix/misc/speed3.jpg

[Layyz]

wow, just the thread i was looking for, ive read all the pages. It answers all the questions that have been bugging me for quite a while on how this works. I just need to try a few shots on my car now. Is it best to drive slowly or to get someone to push the vehicle. My only concern is going to be how to clone out the rig.

[Silverludebb6]

Yes, you don't need any adapters or any other part. The Manfrotto 035 is designed to mate to any 5/8th or 16mm male stud.

Thanks. Im gonna get to work on one of these asap.

Brian

[rmd photography]

I just use the timer on my 30D

I was wondering if people were doing that, Using pocket wizzards or USB tethers.

Any idea how long of a USB cord or extension will work to still control the camera?

[Mike Bowen]

my cord is about 20 feet long and it works fine

[rmd photography]

my cord is about 20 feet long and it works fine


Cool....thanks for the reply!

[TariQ.E]

I just bought my rig tools yesterday

2 x Manfrotto suction cups - 66$ ( but one of them doesn't work :( )
3 x Manfrotto super clamps - 40$
1 x Manfrotto 484 Micro ball head - 57$

and 3 x of this http://cars-club.com/up/8-2-1/carsclub_89148448.jpg

still needs the pole

this photo just for testing until finding good pole
http://cars-club.com/up/8-2-1/carsclub_52966702.jpg

[ChadAndreo]

Took those in Palm Beach? I have this car a couple of times on the island.

Enjoy.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/Caspita33/20080606_BrettDavid_0057web2.jpg



You should post these on bfc if you havent already. I love your car.

I had a few minutes to test run my setup, I still have some fine tuning, but here are just two shots.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4838/img4353copy1resizesv7.jpg

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9685/img4331copy1resizehx5.jpg


Best Shots Period IMHO

Poles: Ebay - £50

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2735544139_657f620c59.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2711470645_556fb4446d.jpg

[ChadAndreo]

I am making plans to build a rig after seeing this thread, but I have a couple of questions first.
First, do you guys think I could build an effective rig with 2 good suction cups, a 10' EMT pole and a monopod with an attached ball head(I own the Velbon RUP-43)?
Look at post 771 for reference. Click Here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=6129186&postcount=771)
I was thinking of doing a combination of zip tying/strong tape/clamping my monopod to the EMT pole which would obviously be attached by the two suction cups to the car.
Also, do you guys think my sigma(24-60 2.8 ) is wide enough for a rig shot?

Thanks,
Getting anxious

[Jbs]

I am making plans to build a rig after seeing this thread, but I have a couple of questions first.
First, do you guys think I could build an effective rig with 2 good suction cups, a 10' EMT pole and a monopod with an attached ball head(I own the Velbon RUP-43)?
Look at post 771 for reference. Click Here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=6129186&postcount=771)
I was thinking of doing a combination of zip tying/strong tape/clamping my monopod to the EMT pole which would obviously be attached by the two suction cups to the car.
Also, do you guys think my sigma(24-60 2.8 ) is wide enough for a rig shot?

Thanks,
Getting anxious

I think that there would be too much movement from however you attach the poles (unless you did it in a more permanent fashion). Your lens also doesn't seem wide enough for that short of a pole; most people in this thread are using UWA lenses.

[Mike Bowen]

No, the 24-60 wouldn't be wide enough, at least on a 30D.

With my Tokina 12-24 I find I wish I had the 10-22 just to have that little bit more extra width at the end...

[Mike Bowen]

new one from tonight

http://imgtree.net/files/g23v0jnyesauxh6pyr2k.jpg

[Boily]

2 x Manfrotto suction cups - 66$ ( but one of them doesn't work :( )
3 x Manfrotto super clamps - 40$
1 x Manfrotto 484 Micro ball head - 57$



where did you bought the suction cups ?
was it 66$ each or 66$ for both ?
wich model ?


Thanks :)

[illuzioo]

Hi!
I'm new at here. I read the all of the pages. I like it! today, I bought the poles. The magnets are on the road to here. Maybe at the weekend i can start the building. Thanks a lot of info!
//sorry for the poor english...//

[quickster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_1319vvv.jpg

[RaymondXTi]

I just joined up and wanted to thank you all for posting all your information and tips/tricks up in this thread. I've spent the last hour or so sitting here skimming through all the posts and have learned more than I imagined. I've wanted to build a rig for a while now and now I think I have a better idea of how to do so. Just gotta save up for some decent suction cups now it looks like!

[illuzioo]

quickster!
The photo of the integra is created on 17mm?
So looks good.

[EMART49]

damn! these look so bad ass, I'm off to go get some tile lifter suction cups and will attempt to build a rig tonight. i can't believe i looked at all the pages..

[quickster]

quickster!
The photo of the integra is created on 17mm?
So looks good.

eh i wish 17mm was wide enough for my crop body..

my buddy tagged along with me so i was able to utilize his siggy 10-20

[illuzioo]

eh i wish 17mm was wide enough for my crop body..

my buddy tagged along with me so i was able to utilize his siggy 10-20

Thanks. I have a Nikon D70s with a Nikon 28F:2.8. This is my widest setup :S I hate wideangles, but now, I need to buy one. I think I don't eat and I can buy a sigma 10-20 at the spring xD

[sinitry23]

I just bought my rig tools yesterday

2 x Manfrotto suction cups - 66$ ( but one of them doesn't work :( )
3 x Manfrotto super clamps - 40$
1 x Manfrotto 484 Micro ball head - 57$

and 3 x of this http://cars-club.com/up/8-2-1/carsclub_89148448.jpg

still needs the pole

this photo just for testing until finding good pole
http://cars-club.com/up/8-2-1/carsclub_52966702.jpg

I want to do a similar setup with the same parts. Why do you need the 3x adapters? Where can I buy that part?

[EMART49]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will post detailed pictures of my rig tomorrow. until then... check out my first attempt :) and let me know what you think
All taken with my Rebel 450d/xsi

1/2 sec at f/3.5 ISO 400
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2850320722_83f01df939_b.jpg

1.6 sec at at f/5.6 ISO 200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2849491211_84cc8aaea3_b.jpg

1.6 sec at f/3.5 ISO 200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2850324460_39abbd4ecb_b.jpg

I used shutter speeds varying between 1/2 a second and 2 seconds. tomorrow I'm going to play around with longer shutter speeds. I never went above like 2 mph in all my shots, if I did it probably would bounce too much and there really is no need to go any faster.

I had my cousin along to help- I would set up the shot, then get in the car, close the door, start engine and get in gear, give him 'the signal' and he would press the shutter on a 10 sec timer and i would start rolling until he signaled me it shot. Can't wait for my remote shutter release to come in, I will be able to do a lot more shots without stopping every shot .

Now I need a wide angle lens :)

[Deanphoto]

I never went above like 2 mph in all my shots, if I did it probably would bounce too much

It is already bouncing too much, the images are very soft.


I had my cousin along to help- I would set up the shot, then get in the car, close the door, start engine and get in gear, give him 'the signal' and he would press the shutter on a 10 sec timer and i would start rolling until he signaled me it shot. Can't wait for my remote shutter release to come in, I will be able to do a lot more shots without stopping every shot .

Now I need a wide angle lens :)

And this is why. Turn the engine off, and push.

[EMART49]

i dont understand how i would push it and take the picture while its still rolling and stop it.. want to spell it out for me?

seems like a PITA to me, to have to push the car for every shot.. but I don't think I understand the process here... ??

[asylumxl]

you could easilly composite the brakelights from a shot when the car isnt moving if it's a huge deal..

[StreamlineGT]

you can sit in the car, have your buddy push for you. Work smarter, not harder. :D

[ali kirk]

i dont understand how i would push it and take the picture while its still rolling and stop it.. want to spell it out for me?

seems like a PITA to me, to have to push the car for every shot.. but I don't think I understand the process here... ??

Try to get somebody else to push the car - after all - it doesn't need to be pushed far / fast.
Or if like me (all friends / wife think I'm mad and don't understand my passion)
and have to indulge in my pastime alone - try finding a gentle sloping road / path, and after setting a 15-20 second self timer, jump in car and release handbrake and let it roll for a while whilst counting down in your head. A smooth surface is also helpfull!

This "non driven" approach will ensure shake free results. Even the silky smooth BMW "straight six" causes vibration at the end of a 20ft pole - enough to ruin the shot.
Also - for even smoother ride - let your tyres down by a third or so of the normal pressure (best carry a footpump for this option - or shoot near a garage forecourt to re-inflate them afterwards!!)

[Mike Bowen]

just stole a pole here from work, cant wait to try it out over the emt tonight.

its aluminum, but has really thick walls, so flex will be a minimum i think

[EMART49]

thanks al kirk, i will try this tonight (weather permitting).

[TariQ.E]

where did you bought the suction cups ?
was it 66$ each or 66$ for both ?
wich model ?


Thanks :)

hi

I am in UAE and I bought all of these in Salam store

and it was 66$ for each one (it's expansive but this store is the only one how sell these, so he can ^^ :( )

and all of them from Manfrotto (very nice quality)


---------

I want to do a similar setup with the same parts. Why do you need the 3x adapters? Where can I buy that part?

I really recommend Manfrotto because of the quality

I use the 3 adapters to connect the 2 suction cups with the 2 super clamps and ball head with super clamp ,,,, but some of the suction cups don't need the adapters like here http://members.dslextreme.com/users/aridan/rig3.jpg

I choose my suction cups to give me more flexibility and u can buy all of them form bhphotovideo.com

I will take some photos for my setup to give you more clear image

thanks

[EMART49]

here is attempt #2 with my pushing the car without the engine running.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2852787850_318233b5d9_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2852785240_c158153687_b.jpg

the rig-
suction cups at harbor freight 17 bucks for both (rated to 110 lb each)
Wire, eye screws, turnbuckle, hose clamps, vertical .5 inch aluminum pipe were bought at home depot for about 20 bucks.

The blue aluminum rod was laying in my garage from an old project, its just a swimming pool cleaning handle I got from home depot a while back for about 20 bucks or so, works great because I can extend it. I drilled holes through it and the handles in the suction cups and put in a nuts and bolts to secure the rod to the suction cups.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2853944150_1c44402b74_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2853108239_b260eb98ff_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2853943042_2c3ec86483_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2853108659_f78b1517f1_b.jpg


While these came out overall a lot sharper with me pushing the car I won't be able to get a full body shot because I will show up in the pic pushing the car (no good).

you guys that did it with your engine running- how did you do it?

[netchemica]

here is attempt #2 with my pushing the car without the engine running.




the rig-
suction cups at harbor freight 17 bucks for both (rated to 110 lb each)
Wire, eye screws, turnbuckle, hose clamps, vertical .5 inch aluminum pipe were bought at home depot for about 20 bucks.

The blue aluminum rod was laying in my garage from an old project, its just a swimming pool cleaning handle I got from home depot a while back for about 20 bucks or so, works great because I can extend it. I drilled holes through it and the handles in the suction cups and put in a nuts and bolts to secure the rod to the suction cups.





While these came out overall a lot sharper with me pushing the car I won't be able to get a full body shot because I will show up in the pic pushing the car (no good).

you guys that did it with your engine running- how did you do it?

Get on the other side of the car and start turning the tire, you can easily move the car that way.

[Deanphoto]

Get on the other side of the car and start turning the tire, you can easily move the car that way.


Or just find a hill and sit in it.

I'd suggest you'd invest in pocket wizards to trigger the camera remotely.

[ali kirk]

While these came out overall a lot sharper with me pushing the car I won't be able to get a full body shot because I will show up in the pic pushing the car (no good).

much sharper results with engine off.
If you could get the whole car in shot (including yourself pushing) - would you not be able to photoshop yourself out of pic? - this action would/should be easier than cloning out the rig as you'd not be matching/blending body panel reflections. As you would appear behind car on the perimeter of car outline - it should be relatively easy to blend/clone "you" into a blurred background??

[ChadAndreo]

here is attempt #2 with my pushing the car without the engine running.




the rig-
suction cups at harbor freight 17 bucks for both (rated to 110 lb each)
Wire, eye screws, turnbuckle, hose clamps, vertical .5 inch aluminum pipe were bought at home depot for about 20 bucks.

The blue aluminum rod was laying in my garage from an old project, its just a swimming pool cleaning handle I got from home depot a while back for about 20 bucks or so, works great because I can extend it. I drilled holes through it and the handles in the suction cups and put in a nuts and bolts to secure the rod to the suction cups.






While these came out overall a lot sharper with me pushing the car I won't be able to get a full body shot because I will show up in the pic pushing the car (no good).

you guys that did it with your engine running- how did you do it?

Great budget build and from those pictures, it seems to be pretty sturdy. Now all you need is a uwa.

[EMART49]

dean- i originally tried this going downhill before pushing it on level ground inside the parking garage, but found this hard to do because i would start to speed up to fast, then i would try and counter that with braking which resulted in a jerky motion and ended up with too much bounce. I found it to be a pita to ride the brakes with juuuuust the right amount of pressure and it was easier to just push it on level ground and have someone in the car brake after it took the picture

Ali- yes, pushing with engine off came out much better

I guess I could always clone myself out- I just didnt know if that would be too much of an area to clone out? I'm really a noob at cloning and haven't even attempted it with the rod in my current images yet- do you think it would be too obvious if i were to clone my entire body out? I will have to look into the diy's for cloning, but i do agree that pushing on a level ground is the way to do it to ensure consistently sharp images so this may be the way to go if its possible to clone out my body without being too obvious.

bimmerracer- thanks, it is very sturdy indeed with that turnbuckle tightening up the pole :) a wide angle lens (thats what you meant by 'uwa' right?) is on my list , and with the money i saved from the cheap build should be possible much sooner!

EDIT- cloning is a major pain! Getting the reflection out- are you guys using the cloning stamp?? I keep getting this ugly ripple look every where I go- and it def. looks very obvious/ ugly. it looks better with the rig in the shot than after i clone it out lol

[TariQ.E]

yesterday I just take some shoots using my new setup but the pole was too short for my car and I will connect my other poles soon

http://cars-club.com/up/8-2-1/carsclub_67289124.jpg

I forgot to shoot the setup but next time I will

[quickster]

found a spot where its a gradual downhill...no pushing required lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_7527a.jpg

btw...shot with the kit lens....lol.

[Thameth]

dean- i originally tried this going downhill before pushing it on level ground inside the parking garage, but found this hard to do because i would start to speed up to fast, then i would try and counter that with braking which resulted in a jerky motion and ended up with too much bounce. I found it to be a pita to ride the brakes with juuuuust the right amount of pressure and it was easier to just push it on level ground and have someone in the car brake after it took the picture

Ali- yes, pushing with engine off came out much better



You shouldn't be catching yourself in the photo when pushing at all. Its pretty simple. If you want to always have someone with the camera and you want shots with a person in the car then you'll need three people.

You have someone either firing the camera using the 10sec timer or a remote shutter. You'll have someone pushing and you'll have your "model" sitting in the car.

If using the timer you hit the shutter button and the timer starts counting down, at the same time the pusher starts pushing. When the timer starts blinking to say its about to open the shutter the pusher gives one last push and runs out of the shot while the car coasts. If your using a remote shutter you basically push until your at a good speed and then get out of the way while the car coasts and the person with the remote shutter fires the shutter.

No reason for you to have to be in the shot and then have more cloning later, thats just creating alot of useless work.....

[StE823]

here's some of my improved rig shots...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2854792350_10a72241ed.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2854770908_6914492d56.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2854769230_20f5882501.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2825318873_91f018da47.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2825311907_94862c58d6.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2826148964_0dee6a687f.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2825311349_379461bf2e.jpg

[n1nj4 m0d3]

3, 5, 6, and 7 are hot. helps to have such nice looking cars also, lol :thumbup:

[Mark1]

Is that the Spoon roof on the red S2K? I love that roof!

[STP03BlueSi]

Damn that S2k is SICK!

[Wyn]

the red s2k is smokin hot!!!!

[StE823]

yep, full spoon kit (including the brakes)

[StE823]

here's the set for the s2k.. sorry for the OT

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ste823/sets/72157607271394316/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2854786612_bfdde48628.jpg

[wtaccord]

Wow! This is an awesome thread! I'm gona have to try this. I'm just worried of losing a body in the process. Are there any horror stories?

[quickster]

new one from tonight....i mean its the same POV until i get the suction cups in the mail.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_80751a-1.jpg

[illuzioo]

I build my rig at the morning. My widest lens is a 28mm F2:8, and the alu tube, is have a lot of flex.... at the afternoon I try to fix this problems....

[romasas]

my .....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2859920645_a8649ce482_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/2860750418_83a41968ef_b.jpg

[turbodude]

I have a line on some custom poles made of aluminum is 1.85" diameter with 1/8" wall thickness. if any one is interested, i need to buy in bulk so if anyone is interested. They come in 4-5ft sections, and you get 5 of them. Perfect for rigs, PM me for details.

[amits1988]

I just ordered my aluminum poles a few days ago! :(

[Mike Bowen]

What kind of price turbodude?

[Deanphoto]

my .....




Surely blowing out the highlights on the hood is just cheating? :lol:




I'm getting so bored of rigs, show me some good statics peeps!

[turbodude]

What kind of price turbodude?


pmed, but i think i pmed the wrong price, pm me back if you are interested they are actually 50 shipped and paypalled.

[EMART49]

ide still like to hear some tips or something on how you guys are getting the rigs reflection on the car out so nicely. mine looks like ass! (using the cloning stamp in PS)

[Sonic Infidel]

Quickster and Romasas: Both look very nice.

Quickster, I love the cleanliness. The background is not distracting, and the colors compliment your car well.

Romasas, your post-processing is interesting and very dramatic. I like the super-high contrast . I'm not sure what to think about the orange spots on the road, but I can overlook them easily enough.

[romasas]

Quickster and Romasas: Both look very nice.

Quickster, I love the cleanliness. The background is not distracting, and the colors compliment your car well.

Romasas, your post-processing is interesting and very dramatic. I like the super-high contrast . I'm not sure what to think about the orange spots on the road, but I can overlook them easily enough.

thanks for C&C. :)

[zacm7]

Here is one of my rig shots from a motorcycle. Mine is the only one I have seen on this forum of the whole bike, not too common.

nice i still need to grab some stuff for a rig.

love your little moster...

[Silver G]

Read this entire thread from beginning to end yesterday and decided to go out today and pick up the stuff I needed and build a rig. didnt have much time to take a shot but here is the first and only one I took as soon as I got the rig built. Feedback please.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/joshwright23/IMG_0216.jpg

[discoduck]

Are you using an underbody rig? Looks good!

I'm having some trouble with my shots.. I don't think it's the rig itself, but I'm getting MASSIVE glare on most of my shots.

Do I have too much light coming through?

[aridan]

Read this entire thread from beginning to end yesterday and decided to go out today and pick up the stuff I needed and build a rig. didnt have much time to take a shot but here is the first and only one I took as soon as I got the rig built. Feedback please.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/joshwright23/IMG_0216.jpg

It works! :D

[poah]

Surely blowing out the highlights on the hood is just cheating? :lol:




I'm getting so bored of rigs, show me some good statics peeps!



don't be silly dean, RIG shots make people look like good photographers so why bother with static shots. in fact why not do a whole shoot with just the rig lol

[Deanphoto]

don't be silly dean, RIG shots make people look like good photographers so why bother with static shots. in fact why not do a whole shoot with just the rig lol

Hmmmmm. I hadn't ever thought of that!! I have a DB9 for the weekend so I might just do 30 rig shots, I'm sure the client would love that :D

[Kraig C]

The possibility of sucking a blemish into the aluminum skin of that car with those glass carier pads....... Run away.. I think.. Have you considered preventive measures? that hot water insulation and black PCV plumbers tape at the hardware store that everyone uses for roll bar padding would go real well on the poles and points of these rigs "JUST INCASE" I know you want it to be as thin as possible to ease the PP and reflections but One little misshapp on a big ticket item will end you. Anyone tried rubber foam filling/ inside/ouside for dampening effect? or tapering diameter mast aluminum tube from stuff like small flagpoles/ ameture radio antanna support.

[quickster]

suction cups came in..

but still need to work on stability of the rig :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_7555b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_7559a.jpg

[Sonic Infidel]

One little misshapp on a big ticket item will end you.

That's why I have insurance! Sure, I'll go out of my way to be careful, but if something happens, I've got the insurance to fall back on.

[illuzioo]

I have a rig ready for test. I think it too flex. I havent got time to try it, maybe monday night. I borrow ND filter from my friend.

[discoduck]

http://www.r-exp.com/photography/RebelXTi/Sep20/1.jpg

http://www.r-exp.com/photography/RebelXTi/Sep20/3.jpg

Waaayyy too unstable... I'm moving to a stronger pole.
http://www.r-exp.com/photography/RebelXTi/Sep20/5.jpg

[Mark1]

I WANT THAT BUG!!!!

[disboifan]

that bug looks lowwww.

[gscharton]

I read this entire thread about 3 months ago and saved up for the rig and finally got it. I'm having a problem with the pole, however. I'd like to buy aluminum but it's too pricey. I'm using Black Iron Gas Pipe which is heavy but stable. Any help or advice? Thanks! Here's some shot's i've done...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Sept%2020/RIG2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Sept%2020/RIG4.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Sept%2020/RIG1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Sept%2020/RIG3.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Sept%2020/DSC_5718.jpg

[RadAL]

lol theres no one in the falcon

[mcdronkz]

suction cups came in..

but still need to work on stability of the rig :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_7555b.jpg



Where did you mount the rig to ? I have a bug too, and it's gonna be quite low so I'm not sure wheter I should mount it on the front beam or not. Or did you mount it at the hood ? Seems like that is photoshopped.

[dougboy]

Quick noob question, how do you guys light up the cars like that at night? Strobe? Or continuous lighting of some sort?

[mcdronkz]

Quick noob question, how do you guys light up the cars like that at night? Strobe? Or continuous lighting of some sort?

You can have just a long exposure shot where your car is exposed correctly. The problem you can have is with artificial light, it can give your car a very weird color which you don't want. The way I should do it, although I have no experience with it, is first trying out how much time it takes to lighten up the background (else you see no things moving....) and then lighten up the car with a strobe in a softbox. As it moves, indeed.

[AustinTyler]

I have looked through this entire thread and have determined this will be my weekend project. I would like to say though that many of you are brave leaving your neck strap down while taking these shots.

[sethmo]

Im going to build an automovie rig similar, but what would you suggest for a motorcyle rig? Say one setup would be to mount to the tank? I cam up with this real quick, anyone have any better suggestions as how to attach the second vacuum cup to the main pole? This was all I could come up with :/

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/sethmo38/Randoms/motorig.jpg
(The big red blob being the gas tank :P )

[asylumxl]

I'm not an expert in rigs, but basic understanding of physics tells me you will have a problem with stability. That looks like one huge lever to me.

[AustinTyler]

Im going to build an automovie rig similar, but what would you suggest for a motorcyle rig? Say one setup would be to mount to the tank? I cam up with this real quick, anyone have any better suggestions as how to attach the second vacuum cup to the main pole? This was all I could come up with :/

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/sethmo38/Randoms/motorig.jpg
(The big red blob being the gas tank :P )

Ehhhhhhh this feels very scary to me, stability on a motorcycle is easily affected, i would be concerned that add weight to one side or even up higher may throw off the center of gravity and could cause stability issues. I've down my bike before, I would hate to see someone else go down too.

[sethmo]

Well the only time I would ride like that would be coasting just a few miles per hour, more then likely in a parking lot. Definitely would not go fast at all, Id be scared. Has anybody ever made a motorcycle rig?

[quickster]

Where did you mount the rig to ? I have a bug too, and it's gonna be quite low so I'm not sure wheter I should mount it on the front beam or not. Or did you mount it at the hood ? Seems like that is photoshopped.

on the hood

[JustinL]

With the steep angle on the hood of the bugs I'd try to mount it higher towards the windshield ("windscreen") to keep the camera further away from the ground.

[builtfromashes]

Where did you mount the rig to ? I have a bug too, and it's gonna be quite low so I'm not sure wheter I should mount it on the front beam or not. Or did you mount it at the hood ? Seems like that is photoshopped.


we mounted it on the hood. the beam is to low to mount anything. you would have to get under the car to get to the beam and if you have a narrowed beam it would be alot harder to get anything clamped to it. and the car is not photoshopped. it has actually been raised a few inches from where it was sitting before.

[DisrupTer911]

anyone happen to know where I can find the Manfrotto Avenger F1000 suction cups in stock?
http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/manfrotto/cache/off/pid/2860?livid=2&idx=20

everyplace I've called it on backorder 1-3 or 2-5 weeks :(
will other manfrotto pump cups like the 241 series work or are they not rated for enough weight?

will these work?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/206012-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_241FB_3500_Pump_Cup_with.html#feat ures
with the stud included in this clamp?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546356-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_035RL_035RL_Super_Clamp_with.html

[sethmo]

Avengers:
http://www.filmandvideolighting.com/avpucupwi5ba.html
http://www.lightsonretail.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AVENGER-F1000&Category_Code=Car-Mount

[DisrupTer911]

does the Manfrotto 035 clamp stud have a 3/8" female end to mount onto a flat base of say the 3500/241FB suction cup? (or tripod legs/monopod end?

or does the stud only have a single male 3/8" thread on it to mount a head/camera to?

[goretro77]

Thanks for all the input and this thread. It's inspired me to start work on my rig this weekend.

would it be a good idea to use rear curtain sync for a flash mode?

[quickster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_98051b.jpg

[illuzioo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_98051b.jpg

clear and sharp! :D my rig is under construction. I think easeier to build one. Photos soon...

[quickster]

shot a wedding yesterday

heres the bride and groom

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_7920a.jpg

btw...thats the bride's slammed vw bug

[rigshots]

shot a wedding yesterday

heres the bride and groom

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/qksLvrintegra/IMG_7920a.jpg

btw...thats the bride's slammed vw bug

That's more like it, nice one.
JJ

[goretro77]

^ Nice pics! I built a rig and here's my very first attempt, in terrible lighting conditions and my first cloning (5 minute) photochop attempt:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/goretro77/_D303987adj.jpg
btw...this is just a test shot on a test car - not doing on my fun car till I'm sure the rig is ok to mount on it ;)

Now I have to add one more stabilizing cable to the end of the boom (used only one cable on 1 side for this test shot) and go out for a real 'shoot.

I also learned its very important to note the light sources since the shadow of the 'rig may fall on the vehicle.

edit: wow that was a 30 second exposure posted above, I'll try to find one in the 1-2 second range and post again.

[goretro77]

here's one with a .625 sec exposure:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/goretro77/_D304034_rotatedadj.jpg

[angryhampster]

Can you post a pic of the setup?

[gscharton]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Camera%20Rig/Rig.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Camera%20Rig/Rig4.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Camera%20Rig/Rig2-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Camera%20Rig/Rig1-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/akagmo/Camera%20Rig/Rig7.jpg

C&C please!!!

Also- Need help on what kind of tubing to buy (affordable, doesn't flex, can buy around 13-15ft.)

[n1nj4 m0d3]

^ too much background blur and the pics are a bit dark

[goretro77]

Can you post a pic of the setup?

I used a telescoping steel boom, this boom took me out to 8 feet but when I wanted to go even more I went with an aluminum tube:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/goretro77/_D303816_adj.jpg

Once the weather breaks (raining) I'll post more pics.