Official Automotive Rigs - DIY Thread

[Thameth]

Here is a work in progress from last night using Corzy's rig. Still working on getting better at the cloning, right now its horrible.... practice practice practice....

We also need practice on setting up the rig, literally took us over 2 hours to get it into a good solid position using a combo of automotive rigs pinch system and magnets.

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435176799_sgBr7-L-1.jpg

THough this is the best distance we've ever gotten out of the rig! Will post shot with rig later.

[Thameth]

For people shooting daytime rig shots, what ND filters are you using? I don't remember it mentioned in the thread before.

Shopping around now and trying to figure which ND to go with. Looking at a B+W ND8, thinking though that I may want to get two ND4's instead and stack them when needed?

[rigshots]

For people shooting daytime rig shots, what ND filters are you using? I don't remember it mentioned in the thread before.

Shopping around now and trying to figure which ND to go with. Looking at a B+W ND8, thinking though that I may want to get two ND4's instead and stack them when needed?

Read this. (http://www.rigshots.com.au/howto1.htm#Filters_for_rig_shots) I think it should help.

This is shot with a B+W 106 and polarising filter, burning Aussie sunshine, 8sec at f8. More examples here (http://www.rigshots.com.au/howto1.htm#Optimum_shutter_speed).
http://www.rigshots.com.au/images/rig101/r_068_400.jpg

JJ

[couleur]

Here is a work in progress from last night using Corzy's rig. Still working on getting better at the cloning, right now its horrible.... practice practice practice....

We also need practice on setting up the rig, literally took us over 2 hours to get it into a good solid position using a combo of automotive rigs pinch system and magnets.

http://www.josephregner.com/photos/434348802_X8h53-L.jpg

THough this is the best distance we've ever gotten out of the rig! Will post shot with rig later.

wow, i'm amazed! So it could rig the mini too, luck they didn't come with plastic covers underneath it. You might want to correct the colour temperature for the road and body. Did you do a underexposure for the lights? Might want to try replaing that next time. Do the same exposure as the rig without the car moving while the lights are switched off, then do another exposure just for the lights. Fix it all at photoshop later...

[Thameth]

wow, i'm amazed! So it could rig the mini too, luck they didn't come with plastic covers underneath it. You might want to correct the colour temperature for the road and body. Did you do a underexposure for the lights? Might want to try replaing that next time. Do the same exposure as the rig without the car moving while the lights are switched off, then do another exposure just for the lights. Fix it all at photoshop later...

Thanx Couleur,

Yes, American MINI's don't have the underbody plast that the Euro ones have. Though I wish I had the paneling the Euro MINI's come with! hehe.

Actually, the photo is still a work in progress. I just quickly cloned it and uploaded it. Thats why it really hasn't been fixed much. Also it was shot under mixed light (I know, not good). We spent so much time setting up that rig that we lost all daylight we wanted to shoot with and we also didn't have time to change location. So we decided to just shoot down my street which has terrible sodium vapor lighting, hence the orange tint. With just that street light and a 5 second exposure we still didn't have enough light, so I had Corzy point his car headlights at the side of the car so we drove through his headlights in the middle of the exposure. We shot RAW and even there I had trouble getting better color in just adusting the white balance.

I'll post a better verson in the future when I have more time.

[Thameth]

Aight, here is a breakdown of the shots we did that night. Like I said we didn't have many options, but that was our fault.

This shows what we were naturally working with in a static shot. You can see the sodium vapor street light that was offering most of our light... Sadly we couldn't "turn it off" hehe:

http://www.josephregner.com/photos/435176245_PfdMt-L.jpg

Directly off the camera, just converted to JPEG using Lightroom:

http://www.josephregner.com/photos/435175137_WMwuH-L.jpg

Here is a much better adjusted shot with more light from Corzy's headlights:

http://www.josephregner.com/photos/435175304_avdMv-L.jpg

Here is the exact same shot as the first image I posted but adjusted a bit more for the correct color in the car (which my MINI is "Pepper White", which is a bit Off White).

http://www.josephregner.com/photos/435176950_Bu6V8-L.jpg

And for those people who don't like oblique shots hehe:

http://www.josephregner.com/photos/435176388_tsb8R-L.jpg

[Thameth]

Mounting shot from under the car, sorry its not the best.

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435200393_VoWYV-L.jpg

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435200379_isVok-L.jpg

[jmack08]

Wow, that is one long thread...

Anywho, I'm about to take on the challenge and I'm looking for some tips.

I'm going to go with the standard setup:
2 x Avenger F1000 Cups
3 x Manfrotto Super Clamps
1 x Manfrotto Ball Head
1 x 10' Aluminum Pole

Is this a stable and safe design?

I'm going to be using a Canon 40D with a Sigma 10-20mm lens.

Do you guys recommend getting some sort of a remote for the camera?

Thanks in advance.

[illuzioo]

Thameth

what the diameter of your magnets? I found with 60mm dia' for 16 EUR. Now I have with 40mm dia' and i think they not enough good. Maybe I try the 60mm version.

[Thameth]

Thameth

what the diameter of your magnets? I found with 60mm dia' for 16 EUR. Now I have with 40mm dia' and i think they not enough good. Maybe I try the 60mm version.

Honestly, I wish I knew. Corzy will have to step in and say because they're his.

[quickster]

not TOO happy with these...

but im gonna contribute..

2 suction cups
swimming pool pole (extendable to about 20 ft)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/3103002381_8528729b41_o.jpg

the driver(owner) leaned forward so u couldnt see him..but he was inside the car
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/3102976177_fb99d17c85_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/3102204412_fab52a03b9_o.jpg

[CorzyPhoto]

Let me just tell you, hooking up the rig to the mini was soo much harder than I thought! When I had my rig with the magnet setup only, we popped on the bars with the magnets and put the poles together and that was it. Let me advise you all, the pinch weld clamping system from autorigs.com works BEST with cars that have pinch welds (or similar - something STURDY!). Of course, if you look at the picture of the pinch weld clamp, we rigged the rig a little bit (lol) so that the clamp has something to clamp onto.

[couleur]

Thanx Couleur,

Yes, American MINI's don't have the underbody plast that the Euro ones have. Though I wish I had the paneling the Euro MINI's come with! hehe.

Actually, the photo is still a work in progress. I just quickly cloned it and uploaded it. Thats why it really hasn't been fixed much. Also it was shot under mixed light (I know, not good). We spent so much time setting up that rig that we lost all daylight we wanted to shoot with and we also didn't have time to change location. So we decided to just shoot down my street which has terrible sodium vapor lighting, hence the orange tint. With just that street light and a 5 second exposure we still didn't have enough light, so I had Corzy point his car headlights at the side of the car so we drove through his headlights in the middle of the exposure. We shot RAW and even there I had trouble getting better color in just adusting the white balance.

I'll post a better verson in the future when I have more time.

dude, it's okay. The first time I rig it a car underneath it took me 2 hours too. :) It's all about the experience, i think we could make it 30 minutes next time... just need to get a proper car jack...

Personally I don't think the light is not as bad as you said so. It's good enough! And you've made the most out of the situation which is great! What more could you ask for? Flash? hehe....

[couleur]

Mounting shot from under the car, sorry its not the best.

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435200393_VoWYV-L.jpg

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435200379_isVok-L.jpg

wow, that looks pretty small, is it strong? I'm using RB 100 and it as stable as it seems. What is the diameter of your pole? Seems pretty small...

I'm using 3 magnets. 2 infront and 1 at the back, the back one could be extended, just in case it reaches uneven surfaces...

For photoshop help, checkout the Porsche Retouched topic. That will help you a lot...

[Thameth]

wow, that looks pretty small, is it strong? I'm using RB 100 and it as stable as it seems. What is the diameter of your pole? Seems pretty small...

I'm using 3 magnets. 2 infront and 1 at the back, the back one could be extended, just in case it reaches uneven surfaces...

For photoshop help, checkout the Porsche Retouched topic. That will help you a lot...

The magnets are surprisingly strong for their size. Again, its Corzy's stuff so he would have full details, I think he said each magnet is rated for 200lbs. Trust me when they grab you better not have your finger anywhere near them because you won't be happy hehe.

If I were to guess I would say the magnets are about 1 1/2" in diameter. Also the pinch weld kit you see in the picture is directly from AutomotiveRigs.com, I think its built for a 2" diameter pole and Corzy's are a bit smaller so I'm guessing the poles are 1 1/2" also, thats why you see the small peice of cardboard stuffed in there hehe.

I think a 2" diameter pole would help alot in making the rig stiffer and more steady, hence why the AutomotiveRigs.com setup went with 2" diameter IIRC.

I saw the Porsche touch up thread a few days ago and DEFINITELY plan on watching the video's a few times. I definitely need the practice.

I just wish someone would do a screencast like that for Cloning out rigs, so I can just see how some people do it specifically for rigs.

[CorzyPhoto]

couleur - These are the magnets I have: http://kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MM%2DD%2D60

Pull force is rated at 249 lbs... But remember that on a lot of the surfaces it doesn't stick THAT well because of uneven planes, insulation coatings, mixed metal types, etc.

I think the pole is 2", I would have to double check. The automotive rigs poles are bigger, but also a lot thinner. The poles that I have are amazingly sturdy! They have a thick sidewall.

Anyhow, whatever bounce or wiggle that we have during shots can be solved with just a string attached by the camera to two different points on the car.

[gonças]

Hello.

Has anyone ever used a Tokina 12-24mm F4 for rig shots? Can you post examples.

Thanks in advance :)

[illuzioo]

Yeah. I can resume the rig project. I bought yesterday a wide-angle. Now, I have got a Sigma 14mm F3.5. I'll try at the week.

[couleur]

Hello.

Has anyone ever used a Tokina 12-24mm F4 for rig shots? Can you post examples.

Thanks in advance :)

My advice, don't go for Tokina. It's the worst lens I ever had... thank goodness I got rid of it and bought the 10-22mm.

[gonças]

why is that?

[azncarbos]

why is that?


x2 ???


B/c I own the Tokina 12-24 and I just love it!

[EbbeJ]

x2 ???


B/c I own the Tokina 12-24 and I just love it!

- I have heard of some 'bad copies'.. That may be the answer.

[saturnin]

FFS.. lol... i almost finished my DIY rig and now its bloody snowing..ahahahhahaa... i'm still waiting on a few pieces to complete it like the camera attachment arm and some cables... but yah i want to test it out soon. I have made one that attaches under, no magnets just clamps. I will most likely do a magnet one as well. Total cost so far probably under 250bux. the most expensive part is the manfrotto magic arm 99.99 on ebay, pipes, clamps and other crap is relativley cheap. I think my tubes might be to heavy tho... but i dont know yet i havent tested it. HOpefully i can provide some pics as soon as the weather clears and stops snowing.

so far everything has been bought @ home depot and verious piping/metal shops.

[ChadAndreo]

FFS.. lol... i almost finished my DIY rig and now its bloody snowing..ahahahhahaa... i'm still waiting on a few pieces to complete it like the camera attachment arm and some cables... but yah i want to test it out soon. I have made one that attaches under, no magnets just clamps. I will most likely do a magnet one as well. Total cost so far probably under 250bux. the most expensive part is the manfrotto magic arm 99.99 on ebay, pipes, clamps and other crap is relativley cheap. I think my tubes might be to heavy tho... but i dont know yet i havent tested it. HOpefully i can provide some pics as soon as the weather clears and stops snowing.

so far everything has been bought @ home depot and verious piping/metal shops.
Cool.
Try and post a mini-diy if you get a chance.

[NickW]

Here are my first rig shots. Used this thread to make it.....2 suction cups, 10ft pole, etc etc....still need to extend the pole and use a T set-up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/Wilczewski13/IMG_1736copy.jpg
http://www.nicholaspixel.com/images/20081212020910_img_1728copy.jpg
http://www.nicholaspixel.com/images/20081212020935_img_1743copy2.jpg

[couleur]

Here are my first rig shots. Used this thread to make it.....2 suction cups, 10ft pole, etc etc....still need to extend the pole and use a T set-up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/Wilczewski13/IMG_1736copy.jpg
http://www.nicholaspixel.com/images/20081212020910_img_1728copy.jpg
http://www.nicholaspixel.com/images/20081212020935_img_1743copy2.jpg

me too, I just received my suction rig yesterday. But i'm looking to extend at least 16 ft. Need to make a T setup too... maybe following those construction crane designs... not sure about counter weight, might distort the roof...

[Pterps]

I tested my new rig last friday after waiting for weeks for the last parts from Manfrotto. It's not perfect yet but pretty satisfied with the result.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x11/pterps/5008_by_pterps_289aan800.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x11/pterps/5008_by_pterps_340aan2800.jpg

[Sonic Infidel]

Pterps: Great pictures! The one with red in the background is awesome. Good looking car, too.

Makes me wish I had a decent-looking vehicle to work with.

[gonças]

Makes me wish I had a decent-looking vehicle to work with.

+1 :(

[Zilly]

I tested my new rig last friday after waiting for weeks for the last parts from Manfrotto. It's not perfect yet but pretty satisfied with the result.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x11/pterps/5008_by_pterps_289aan800.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x11/pterps/5008_by_pterps_340aan2800.jpg

wanna share some pre rig removal shots ?

[NickW]

me too, I just received my suction rig yesterday. But i'm looking to extend at least 16 ft. Need to make a T setup too... maybe following those construction crane designs... not sure about counter weight, might distort the roof...


16ft? wow. Mine is a 10ft pole and we extended it 5ft so i could use my tamron 17-55, instead of the fisheye.

[s2kologist]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/s2kologist/rig3.jpg

[saturnin]

photoshoping that background must be a bitch..lol

[Thameth]

photoshoping that background must be a bitch..lol

Haha, yeah thats why I rather stick to under car rigs.... :lol:

[saturnin]

i do think that in certain situations the suction caps are good...but the background has to be free of cool stuff like world textures (trees,buildings,etc etc). I wish winter was over lol.. i need to set up my rig... daaaaumm...

[Samdiver74]

I don't see what the fuss is about with photoshopping backgrounds.

hope you didn't mind s2kologist
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2631/rig3editeduq3.jpg

[gonças]

that is perfect. I wouldn't have done it better myself. Great work Samdiver

[endlessdream]

I also tried to clone the rig out, I was bored..I also wanted to ask you guys for some advices regarding cloning, what are the best settings, brushes etc.? Thanks!

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/121/rig3dcedithz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Samdiver74]

I also tried to clone the rig out, I was bored..I also wanted to ask you guys for some advices regarding cloning, what are the best settings, brushes etc.? Thanks!

I used the Vanishing point filter in CS3 extended for the wall, I then used the Marquee tool in VP filter to select a bigger area and dropped the opacity to make sure I could see the grout lines on the layer below the selection and made sure the clone tool was set to heal for the majority of the clone and then when there is an edge change to the regular clone with heal turned off.
With cloning out of the suction cups on the Hood/Bonnet I went into the brush tool selection in the right tool bar and adjusted the brush tip shape from a circle into an ellipse and an angle of 15 degrees.
Hope this helps

[endlessdream]

Thanks, I'll try to play with vanishing point filter and all the other things, since I didn't even know about that technique..I only used the Clone stamp tool in the main window for cloning.

[saturnin]

i can see where it was cloned out and if u looke closley u can see that the new stuff is a bit off and doesnt line up.. those are the kind of limitations there are with busy or a background with a not so easy pattern.

You guys did a good job but its stil lnot perfect...cloning out from bottom(asphalt), is much easier and not as much to match.

[Samdiver74]

i can see where it was cloned out and if you look closely u can see that the new stuff is a bit off and doesn't line up.. those are the kind of limitations there are with busy or a background with a not so easy pattern.

You guys did a good job but its still not perfect...cloning out from bottom(asphalt), is much easier and not as much to match.

It took me all of about 10 mins to complete, the hardest part was the transition to the car hood/bonnet.
I was also dealing with the low res image you see here.
Hi res would be a different animal.
If the original image was not posted for you to compare I think you would have a hard time.
I agree that if the rig is an under car type it is easier to clone a large expanse of an area, however you still have to worry about reflections in the paint if using a galvanized/shiny pole.

[s2kologist]

anyone have a DIY on how to make a under car rig?

[saturnin]

reflections will happen for either top or bottom set up.. all depends on the shine and light of course.. so chooping the actual hood and front nose happens often.

dont get me wrong the photochop is good.. but the wall just doesnt look right on the right side, i'm sure with more time spent it could be 100%. ;)

if you want schematics of diy rig just look @ automotive rigs.. thee pictures of parts are there for everyoen to see.

[gonças]

Since everyone has had a go at it...

notice the ref of the rig on the headlamp?

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5158/ddaq5.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

fixed:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8426/llhq8.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

:)

[ChadAndreo]

By any chance does anyone know of any magnets or suctions cup that could be had OTC (over the counter)?

[ChadAndreo]

Mounting shot from under the car, sorry its not the best.

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435200393_VoWYV-L.jpg

http://josephregner.smugmug.com/photos/435200379_isVok-L.jpg
Could you tell me how you built that device to hold the magnet?

[Thameth]

Could you tell me how you built that device to hold the magnet?

Its the AutomotiveRigs.com pinch weld kit.....

http://www.automotiverigs.com/product4.html

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5416/pinchsolock3.jpg

This kit includes everything you need to upgrade your existing magnet rig kit to a complete rig kit.

Kit includes:
- (1) front pinch clamp assembly
- (1) rear pinch clamp assembly
- (1) extension kit w/ hardware

$124.99 shipped to the lower 48 states; HI, AK and international shipping will be added accordingly. Please allow 5-7 days for processing since all kits are made to order.

[Mightykhoa]

^ what else did you buy?

Magic arm.. and wat else?

[saturnin]

pipes... lol

this isnt really that complicated guys.. i mean the picstures speak for themselves

allu need is a bit of imagination and your local hadware store

[Thameth]

^ what else did you buy?

Magic arm.. and wat else?

Its not my rig, its Corzy's as posted earlier in this thread. Full details on all parts for building a rig is in this thread.

We don't have a Magic Arm yet, but we're planning on getting one soon. It makes getting the right angle much easier

[bReed]

Just ordered my supplys.
But do you guys push your car or do you just idle?

[CorzyPhoto]

Pushing the car gets rid of any vibrations from the engine. I might have the chance to shoot a pretty awesome car soon, so hopefully the rig will have everything needed to do what we want.

[bReed]

im really excited to get mine! iv looked at about 100 of these threads haha :)

[saturnin]

yah pushing it seems to be the way to do it.. or just run it of idle

[Tom78]

After bikes, i tried with a car :

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/3129234839_4239555560.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3130064184_c4ca75aaff.jpg

Shot with a Canon EOS 5D, 20mm, 1/2s, f22

C&C are welcome ;)

[sl55kleemann]

Very nice!

I'm glad to see some new pictures with good cars.

Can you post a pictures with he rig please?

I'm working on mine, under car with magnets.

[illuzioo]

Tom78 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=174542): Nice pics! please upload photos about the rig, or unedited rig shots. :D I have got a Sigma 14mm... :P Undercar rig is near to ending. My suction-cup based rig need few parts, but in january I hope I finish it... Pics soon...

[bReed]

i think these pics would turn out great if you had a fisheye. but my rig comes the 5th i will post pics when it arrives

[Tom78]

Thanks !

I'll post an unedited picture shortly ;)

But you'll see, it's not a real rig, it's a "home made" system, with a magic arm (manfrotto) attached under the car and a tripod.

[illuzioo]

tom78: this topic is about the "DIY" rigs, not the real rigs. In some cases the homemade better then a pro... XD Im interesting in your rig. tripod, and magic arm with 20mm?? how? :P

[CorzyPhoto]

Thanks !

I'll post an unedited picture shortly ;)

But you'll see, it's not a real rig, it's a "home made" system, with a magic arm (manfrotto) attached under the car and a tripod.

What's the definition of a "real" rig? The last time I checked a rig was something someone made that consists of frabricating poles, suction cups, magnets, clamps, tripod heads, wires, etc etc to take pictures going the same speed as an object/person. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Do I have a real rig? :)

[saturnin]

"real rig" = automotive rig for 1000bux lol

the snow here is killing me, sooo much cand to jack all.... hopefully when it goes away i can do some testing

[Tom78]

Sorry, but i'm French, and my english is not very good. I didn't understand what "DIY" means...

Here's the unedited picture :

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8620/mg4416gt4.jpg

With this system, i have to walk next by the car, holding the camera in my hand and shoot during the time it's moving.

[sl55kleemann]

:eek:

[illuzioo]

Tom you' crazy! XD .......

[jeremycliff]

what kind of magnets are people using for under car rigs? I'm building a suction and magnet one and already have everything picked out for the suction, BUT, I can't seem to find much info on the magnets used in these. any help? :D

[Tom78]

Tom you' crazy! XD .......

Maybe crazy, but it works !

This is the only equipment i dispose, so i have to deal with it...

It has the advantage to be fixed on the car easily and quickly.
But only 10% of the pictures are good. There's still a lot of blur because the whole system moves... If i didn't hold the camera, it fells immediately on the ground...

But i'm just a beginner, this is my 2nd attempt of rig shot on a car. I'm sure i can do better ;)

[bReed]

can some one post a picture with blur? i want to see how bad it gets.

[Asad_A203]

Quick question for you guys; what do you think of these suction cups:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/4-1-2-DIAMETER-SUCTION-CUP-Dents-Handle-Plate-Glass_W0QQitemZ130277744155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPull ers?hash=item130277744155&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

I am thinking of using 1 of those with the pole going through them and ziptied with an Avenger Pump Cup and super clamp holding up the other end.

[bReed]

i wouldnt trust an 8 dollar suction cup with my $1000 plus camera set up....

[illuzioo]

these suction cups not too bad. Just need to recheck periodic. I think...

[Thameth]

Those are no good, i've tried them. But if you want a really good set of Suction cups then get these are Harbor Freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=46134

Work best on glass but work almost just as well on clean paint. I left one attached to my car for 2 weeks for testing and it never budged even at speeds up to 120mph. They are rated for 125lbs each.

I've also used them to shoot tons of autocross video's and have never had it loose suction.

Quick question for you guys; what do you think of these suction cups:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/4-1-2-DIAMETER-SUCTION-CUP-Dents-Handle-Plate-Glass_W0QQitemZ130277744155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPull ers?hash=item130277744155&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

I am thinking of using 1 of those with the pole going through them and ziptied with an Avenger Pump Cup and super clamp holding up the other end.

[Thameth]

i wouldnt trust an 8 dollar suction cup with my $1000 plus camera set up....

No matter what suction cups you use you shouldn't leave your camera unattended at the end of the rig without someone standing there anyway, even with the $80 suction cups, which when not mounted correctly i've seen come off a car.

[ChadAndreo]

Those are no good, i've tried them. But if you want a really good set of Suction cups then get these are Harbor Freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=46134

Work best on glass but work almost just as well on clean paint. I left one attached to my car for 2 weeks for testing and it never budged even at speeds up to 120mph. They are rated for 125lbs each.

I've also used them to shoot tons of autocross video's and have never had it loose suction.
Its sunday and they are closed right now. I was just wondering if you know if they sell theses over the counter?

Edit: Also, what is considered the best aperture range for rig shots?

[CorzyPhoto]

bimmer - it depends what kind of lighting you are shooting in.. but if you set your camera to the TV mode, a 1 second exposure usually makes a nice but not too much blur (also depends how fast you are going).

[luke*]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/3119752607_070c470fa2_o.jpg

2 suction Klaps + broken tripod = 350Z rolling

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll143/luk_Star/206roolling.jpg

tripod+ joystick 222 + sigma 14mm = 206 cc rolling!

Sorry for me English! I don't speak english! I will try!

[civicseth]

I got an Avenger f1000, a super clamp, and a ball head for Christmas, so now I plan on ordering the rest to complete the kit, and head to the hardware store to get some piping and hardware to hold it together. Maybe in a few weeks I'll have mine ready to take some shots!

[illuzioo]

luke* no matter... kitchen english rulez... xD pics of the rig?? :D plz...
whats your opinions about the sigma 14mm. I bought one a week ago, but I can't try it because the snow is fallin... :S not a bad lens... but not too sharp.... i think... but very cheap... :P

[ChadAndreo]

I'm in the middle of building my rig and I need some help.
Can anyone tell me what I could use as a hinge between two emt poles?
What kind of wire are most of u using for adjustments and stability? Found some Galv Metal Wire at Home Depot.
Also, could anyone tell me the dimensions of the automotive rig setup? I think I found somewhere that they use 4 3ft Poles, but I do not know the width.
Thanks

EDIT:
I started and i have a couple more questions.
What are you guys using to connect your emt poles together(Konstantinos for example). I am looking for a more stable solution that U Bolts.

[luke*]

luke* no matter... kitchen english rulez... xD pics of the rig?? :D plz...
whats your opinions about the sigma 14mm. I bought one a week ago, but I can't try it because the snow is fallin... :S not a bad lens... but not too sharp.... i think... but very cheap... :P

I do not have pics now bat it´s only a tripod 055+joystick

Well, The sigma 14mm 3,5 is for Nikon jejejeje! :oops: It´s favulous!!!!!!!!!
it does not deform so much and is sufficiently angular for my. Traduction by yahoo traductor jajajaja!

[ep88]

I took these yesterday :)

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447277239_oaTar-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447279901_UyzPr-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447282760_UF57B-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447285084_UF2Mz-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447289221_7iFv4-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447290593_Hga8m-XL.jpg

[ChadAndreo]

I took these yesterday :)

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447277239_oaTar-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447279901_UyzPr-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447282760_UF57B-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447285084_UF2Mz-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447289221_7iFv4-XL.jpg

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/447290593_Hga8m-XL.jpg

What kind of rig do you use?

[bReed]

There good i would just find a better location and your set.

[z3speed4me]

quick question... the bogen 035 super clamps..... buy them with or without studs?

i am gathering without...???

[CorzyPhoto]

ep - Your shots are good, buy you need to work out that bounce...

[Sonic Infidel]

ep88: I really like the pics you posted. The background may be a bit bouncy, but it's a nice contrast, both in color and texture.

[corpcrim]

I took these yesterday :)...

GMR? if so let me know when you're going again... I'll bring my rig and my Z. I'm tired of shooting my own car.... I'd like to see so how others would shoot it.

[CorzyPhoto]

ep - Just thought I'd add in that the 3rd pic (of the white STI) is probably your best one from that post.

[clean-car-shots]

stabilizing this beast is pissing me off.. i might go with a bit heavier rig and SOLID mounts for the car i want this thing to be at ONE with the car lol. HELP lol ill post my best shots, everyone elses looks amazing :cry:.
CRAP
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/sanramondrift/1-4-09/DSC00941.jpg
crap
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/sanramondrift/1-4-09/DSC00935.jpg
this is my best so far and its of my car so, yea lol
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/sanramondrift/1-2-09/DSC00914.jpg?t=1231146481
and
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/sanramondrift/1-2-09/DSC00919.jpg
last
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/sanramondrift/1-2-09/DSC00924.jpg

[ep88]

ep - Your shots are good, buy you need to work out that bounce...


ep88: I really like the pics you posted. The background may be a bit bouncy, but it's a nice contrast, both in color and texture.

Thanks guys, my rig is not stable at all! My pole flexes and bounces a lot.

GMR? if so let me know when you're going again... I'll bring my rig and my Z. I'm tired of shooting my own car.... I'd like to see so how others would shoot it.

these were taken at little tujunga canyon :D gmr is kinda far from the SFV. I did had a shoot @ gmr before, actually it's at glendora ridge road.

http://luisbicol.smugmug.com/photos/398935862_2XRLG-XL.jpg



ep - Just thought I'd add in that the 3rd pic (of the white STI) is probably your best one from that post.

thanks a lot man!

[*Knowledge*]

I'm still in the newb stage but it's coming along.

1.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2979770567_9ed03ec3f3_b.jpg

2.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2980627912_88960801ac_b.jpg

3.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2981100003_9494f6c288_b.jpg

Yesterday, I picked up a 10ft pole from home depot, I'll give that an attempt today.

[ChadAndreo]

EP88, What kind of rig do you use?
? Thanks

[ep88]

? Thanks


opps sorry I missed that.

My setup is a suction cup based rig. 2 cups, 3 clamps, aluminum pole..the usual ;)

[adsayer]

Hey gang, any ideas where I can source the Avenger F1000's from?

(I'm stuck in the UK and am struggling to find the damn things :lol: )

Thanks!

Ads

[Thameth]

Anybody know a better place to source a B+W 77mm 0.9 ND Filter other than 2Filter.com?? I tried ordering one from them but they said it would take 6wks because it has to be special ordered. It would have cost $108, so i'm looking for some other place that is at least comparable.

[TariQ.E]

ep88

I really like the last one ,,, how long is your rig!

[ChadAndreo]

Here is my 1st ever build and shoot with a rig. C & C Please. My main limitation is that my widest lens in 24mm.


http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/IMG_3207.jpg

This is how it folds up in 2 minutes.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/Rig%20Shots/IMG_3211.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/Rig%20Shots/IMG_3348.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/Rig%20Shots/IMG_3154.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/Rig%20Shots/IMG_3309.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/Rig%20Shots/IMG_3423rig.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/chadp918/Rig%20Shots/IMG_3454rig.jpg

[jeremycliff]

i love this thread! for those of you who have the magic arms which version do you have? im looking to get one on B&H but theres like 40 different ones.

[pkhamre]

i love this thread! for those of you who have the magic arms which version do you have? im looking to get one on B&H but theres like 40 different ones.

Hi, I got this one myself.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554345-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_244RC_244RC_Variable_Friction_Magi c.html

[jeremycliff]

any particular reason you went with that one over the others?

[civicseth]

What would you guys say is the average diameter of pipe used? I bought some 1" square tubing, and even that seems SUPER heavy. I dont' see how everyone manages with the magic arms and cameras on the end.

[rnourse]

www.hvstar.net

excellent place for cpls and round nd filters

Anybody know a better place to source a B+W 77mm 0.9 ND Filter other than 2Filter.com?? I tried ordering one from them but they said it would take 6wks because it has to be special ordered. It would have cost $108, so i'm looking for some other place that is at least comparable.

[Thameth]

What would you guys say is the average diameter of pipe used? I bought some 1" square tubing, and even that seems SUPER heavy. I dont' see how everyone manages with the magic arms and cameras on the end.

Square tubing is bad for holding weight, You should get around 2in diameter round aluminum tubing like the AutomotiveRigs.com setup.

[Thameth]

www.hvstar.net (http://www.hvstar.net)

excellent place for cpls and round nd filters

Yeah I knew about HVstar, but they're generally located in China which means expensive and super long shipping times. But doing a google shopping search I guess they have an affiliate program, because i bought from someone at HVstar based in Canada..... I'll report if the sale goes well. Came out to $87.

[Thameth]

Hi, I got this one myself.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554345-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_244RC_244RC_Variable_Friction_Magi c.html

Yup, thats the same one I just ordered from Adorama. While playing with it at the Local store I liked the wheel better than the lever.

[Burrellimages]

If you are steady enough, you can do those shots with OUT a rig. There was no rigs on these.

http://burrellimages.com/ToddSollarJetta_126_small.jpg
http://burrellimages.com/911_028.jpg
http://www.burrellimages.com/IMG_9130.jpg

[bReed]

my rig finally showed up!

[Thameth]

If you are steady enough, you can do those shots with OUT a rig. There was no rigs on these.


Yeah, and they look nothing like Rig shots..... Sorry but you're not the first to ever suggest doing rolling shots instead of rig shots. You can't always get the same angles and effect.

[Burrellimages]

ive thought that truck shot has always looked like a rig shot due to the lowness and how close it is to the truck. I literally had my camera dragging the ground.

[Thameth]

ive thought that truck shot has always looked like a rig shot due to the lowness and how close it is to the truck. I literally had my camera dragging the ground.

Its a great shot and looks alot like a rig shot, but its alot different from a rig shot. You can tell the speed was low when the truck shot was taken. Rig shots give an effect of intense speed while keeping the car in rock solid focus (when done correctly hehe).

[bReed]

whats everyones settings when shooting with there rig?

[SquareOne]

I'd never even heard about rigging until tonight! I'm extremely impressed by the artwork and the extremes that you all have gone to get these shots! Look forward to making my own rig someday. Thanks again for all the info in this thread!

-Robbo

[jeremycliff]

well just placed an order for a magic arm, 2 visual departure suction cups and 2 super clamps. going to be here monday. between now and then i plan on find a nice sturdy pole(s) so i can put it all together monday! Thanks for all the info guys!

[saturnin]

so it stopped snowing..but now its raning.. lol... thank you VANCOUVER... i hope this weather doesnt go till MAy....

[pkhamre]

any particular reason you went with that one over the others?

Nah, this was the one they had in stock at that time.

[mininut]

I've bought a couple glass/tile lifters to make up a rig and tried on the car screen but they seem to have left ring like marks where they were. I'm wondering if i put them on panels will they scratch the paint? if they do, is there any way round so they don't?

M.

[z3speed4me]

Hi, I got this one myself.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554345-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_244RC_244RC_Variable_Friction_Magi c.html


I bought the same one, it was a b&h display in perfect condition, snagged it for 78 bucks...

[bReed]

took out my rig for the first time today my shortest lens was a 28 so i couldnt get a full shot of the car but i will get some legit ones saturday.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/3177751549_9b0f86627a.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3177751507_635974fc2e.jpg?v=0

[FLATOUT]

Here's my Rig shot from Today!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n133/ZOSICK/RigShotFinished.jpg

[Thameth]

VERY well done Flatout! Pre post process shot???

[FLATOUT]

VERY well done Flatout! Pre post process shot???

Thanks Buddy!

Standard suction cup rig. I will try and post some tomorrow.

[saturnin]

that looks good

[FLATOUT]

that looks good

Thanks guys this is only the second time I have even had it out so I still need to make some adjustments in my shooting locations.

[Thameth]

Thanks Buddy!

Standard suction cup rig. I will try and post some tomorrow.

Hehe yeah the angle and style pretty much gave it away as hood or roof based suction cup set up. Still looks great.

[jeremycliff]

Got my cups and clamps in on friday so i went out and got the pole and other things needed. Put it together and tried it out in the garage today since my car is snowed in and its still snowing so everything else outside is covered in it.

here's some test shots in the garage. iso 100 f11 5 second shutter

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/3189794400_ef4c0f8831.jpg

quick 5 min edit while i ate dinner :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/3189792848_d2aac9d3aa.jpg

another
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/3188947019_5fd2080468.jpg

another quick edit while eating the same dinner
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3188945383_e832501618.jpg

and the rig itself... not the greatest pic but you get the idea for now.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/3189786440_2ff588efa4.jpg

[marcos camargo]

nice tests!
I'm from Brazil and new here. I'm amazing with the variety and quality of these rig shots.
I'd like to know if somebody here can tell me anything about magnetics rig mount. I have doubts about how strong statics and rigid it is.

I pretend buy this magneticis: http://kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MM-D-60

[civicseth]

Got my cups and clamps in on friday so i went out and got the pole and other things needed. Put it together and tried it out in the garage today since my car is snowed in and its still snowing so everything else outside is covered in it.

here's some test shots in the garage. iso 100 f11 5 second shutter

What is the length of the pole used?

[jeremycliff]

I have 12 feet total of pole. I just took these tonight in the freezing snow that we're getting right now in chicago. could probably use a little work but im really happy with them.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/3192533471_a2b15e4712.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3192532393_24c5a60c30.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3193376348_ca440c645d.jpg

[saturnin]

just got my magic arm....but waether is still terrible..lol... nice photos upthere

[mellofelow]

I have 12 feet total of pole. I just took these tonight in the freezing snow that we're getting right now in chicago. could probably use a little work but im really happy with them.
Fantastic shots for 1st timer... or you have tried other rigs before? Regardless... that's what rig shot suppose to look like.

[FLATOUT]

For those of you that have used the 10ft EMT pole from Home Depot what have you added for more length? I have the 10 foot pole but I would like another 2 feet or so.

Is there any sort of adapter?

Thanks guys!

[jeremycliff]

Fantastic shots for 1st timer... or you have tried other rigs before? Regardless... that's what rig shot suppose to look like.

nope this is the first time i've tried any sort of rig shot. the garage shots were the first time ever using the rig and then the ones of the silver Z a couple posts up are the first time using it on an actual shoot and stuff. i was really happy with how they came out.

[ChadAndreo]

nope this is the first time i've tried any sort of rig shot. the garage shots were the first time ever using the rig and then the ones of the silver Z a couple posts up are the first time using it on an actual shoot and stuff. i was really happy with how they came out.
which lens did u use?

[CorzyPhoto]

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and get some suction cups when the funds come around. I'd like to have both setups (under and suction).

[ChadAndreo]

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and get some suction cups when the funds come around. I'd like to have both setups (under and suction).
Where in S. FL do you live?

[CorzyPhoto]

Davie - about 1 1/2 hours from you.

[jeremycliff]

which lens did u use?

Its my XT kit lens with a wide angle screwed to the front from my video camear. Works perfect and is about as wide as my friends 10-22 :)

[FLATOUT]

Its my XT kit lens with a wide angle screwed to the front from my video camear. Works perfect and is about as wide as my friends 10-22 :)

Jeremy,

You said you got 12 feet on your rig? I have a 10 foot emt pole, how can I add another 2 feet?

Thanks my Brotha!

[ChadAndreo]

Its my XT kit lens with a wide angle screwed to the front from my video camear. Works perfect and is about as wide as my friends 10-22 :)
That quality is pretty good considering the fact that you used the 18-55 non-is with a add-on.
Do you know exactly which add-on it is?

[jeremycliff]

Jeremy,

You said you got 12 feet on your rig? I have a 10 foot emt pole, how can I add another 2 feet?

Thanks my Brotha!

I found 2 aluminum 6 foot poles at home depot that actually screw together. they were in the same box/area as some wooden broom stick type poles. i'd say their bout an inch and a half or so in diameter. I'm not sure how you could add more to yours but you could go buy the type of poles i have :) lol they were like 20 bucks a piece.

[jeremycliff]

That quality is pretty good considering the fact that you used the 18-55 non-is with a add-on.
Do you know exactly which add-on it is?

yea, I'm pretty happy with it. I take a lot of pics with that set up as its my only lens besides my 75-300mm that I have. I'm not sure which wide angle it is. It came with my sony vx2100 video camera from bandhphoto.com I'll check in the morning and see if I can get a name and stuff.

[FLATOUT]

I found 2 aluminum 6 foot poles at home depot that actually screw together. they were in the same box/area as some wooden broom stick type poles. i'd say their bout an inch and a half or so in diameter. I'm not sure how you could add more to yours but you could go buy the type of poles i have :) lol they were like 20 bucks a piece.

Thanks Jeremy! I might have to go and poke around today and see what I can come up with!

Good job on your snow shots BTW :)

[jeremycliff]

Thanks! Your Vette pic(s) are awesome too! Is that your car? If so its a beauty!

[FLATOUT]

Thanks! Your Vette pic(s) are awesome too! Is that your car? If so its a beauty!

Thanks Buddy Yeh it's may car. You can see it in two magazines next month.

Vette Magazine "Capitol Thrill" and Corvette Enthusiast Magazine "Wheelers Wild Ride"

Glad you like the car my Brotha!

Went to Home Depot and picked up another 10ft piece of EMT pole. Hacksawed off 3 feet and bought a set screw coupler. Just got done with it , and it is as rigid as it was before. Now I just need it to be warmer then ZERO here so I can go shoot with it!

I am shooting another Vette for the Magazine so I will post them when I am done!

Andy

[jeremycliff]

Thanks Buddy Yeh it's may car. You can see it in two magazines next month.

Vette Magazine "Capitol Thrill" and Corvette Enthusiast Magazine "Wheelers Wild Ride"

Glad you like the car my Brotha!

Went to Home Depot and picked up another 10ft piece of EMT pole. Hacksawed off 3 feet and bought a set screw coupler. Just got done with it , and it is as rigid as it was before. Now I just need it to be warmer then ZERO here so I can go shoot with it!

I am shooting another Vette for the Magazine so I will post them when I am done!

Andy

Thats awesome man! congrats. 2 of my friends are on the cover and have a write up in this months Corvette Enthusiast Magazine. Their the Super Hero Vettes. Batman and Superman themed. I'll be taking a lot of pics with them this spring and some video too.

[CorzyPhoto]

I have a shoot tomorrow with a lambo.. I'm hoping my under car rig works. I only have an hour to work with the shoot so I won't be breaking out the strobes. I just wanted to get some input from you guys for prep. I know someone here shot that white lambo with the black sharpie all over - I wonder if he tried an under car rig but I know he used pump cup.

[FLATOUT]

Thats awesome man! congrats. 2 of my friends are on the cover and have a write up in this months Corvette Enthusiast Magazine. Their the Super Hero Vettes. Batman and Superman themed. I'll be taking a lot of pics with them this spring and some video too.

Cool Jeremy I didn't know you knew those two cars. Yeh that turned out to be a great cover, I am sure they are happy with it. I have been freelance working for the magazine for about 6 months now and my shots are just now hitting news stands.

I have a shoot tomorrow with a lambo.. I'm hoping my under car rig works. I only have an hour to work with the shoot so I won't be breaking out the strobes. I just wanted to get some input from you guys for prep. I know someone here shot that white lambo with the black sharpie all over - I wonder if he tried an under car rig but I know he used pump cup.

I certainly don't have any experience with the car, but really looking forward to the results!

Andy

[jeremycliff]

Cool Jeremy I didn't know you knew those two cars. Yeh that turned out to be a great cover, I am sure they are happy with it. I have been freelance working for the magazine for about 6 months now and my shots are just now hitting news stands.



I certainly don't have any experience with the car, but really looking forward to the results!

Andy



Yep, Glen (batman) and Frank (superman). I got hooked up with the Lamborghini Club in Chicago and film and take pictures of the cruises that they do. Its a Lambo Club event but there's generally all forms of exotics and nice cars and these guys are very good friends with the lady in charge. Super nice people. Their helping me build a website in exchange for pics and videos so I'm pretty excited. We have a super hero themed video in the works now for when the weather warms up. can't wait for that!

here's the videos that their in now.
http://vimeo.com/1804049

http://vimeo.com/1867211

http://vimeo.com/1982412

http://vimeo.com/2153889

and a bunch of pics of them and the club here
http://flickr.com/photos/jeremycliff/sets/72157606960268001/

I'm PMing you as well with a couple questions :)

[Thameth]

I have a shoot tomorrow with a lambo.. I'm hoping my under car rig works. I only have an hour to work with the shoot so I won't be breaking out the strobes. I just wanted to get some input from you guys for prep. I know someone here shot that white lambo with the black sharpie all over - I wonder if he tried an under car rig but I know he used pump cup.

The White Lambo with the black vinyl scribble all over it was a suction cup rig...