C1 v3.6 Release Dates Posted

[Dale]

Phase One has announced the release dates. Mac 29 Nov :D Windows 20 Dec :cry: :cry: as per:
http://www.phaseone.com/content/c1software/hotnews/3.6%20announcement.aspx

[drisley]

Oh, oh.
Another month! :shock:
People in the C1 support forums are gonna be pished!

[Scottes]

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH! ! ! !

I am very unhappy with PhaseOne.
:cry:

[CyberDyneSystems]

You know..

I am beginning to really grow accustomed to BreezeBrowser. (due in part to neccesity re: C1)

I am finding the interface the easiest to use.. and though batches are slow.. they are batches... and can be left to there devices.

The output qulity is excellent and it keeps any in camera settings reliably.

Although C1 still has a magic quality about it's conversions that seem to require less PP in PS afterwards... many of us don't like to use ,.. for instance,.. the C1 sharpening anyway.

Gotta say for $45.00 bucks BB is the best deal in a usefull and quality RAW converter going.

[billhercus]

I was a great C1 fan but two things happened, well 3.

I read Bruce Fraser's "Camera RAW with Adobe Photoshop" (what an eye opener)

I bought a 20D

I became increasingly PO with customer support and general upgrade confusion at Phase One.

All done in PSCS now and I'm still confused (obviously - we all are - only the amount varies) but much happier. :lol:

[drisley]

...it keeps any in camera settings reliably
You know, I tried BB for a while with my 20D files, and I found the exact opposite. Every time I went into the Raw window for BB, it would give completely different/random entries for the settings. That is one reason I gave it up. I also couldn't set independant settings for each file, then when I was done, batch convert, which was a pain.
Like you billhercus, I was a great C1 fan when I had the 300D.
But after trying DPP, EVU, and finally BB, and finding major bugs, I was forced to go to Photoshop CS. The latest ACR2.3 is MUCH improved over the older versions, in both image quality, and workflow. I am now such a fan of ACR, I may not bother going back to C1 when it is released, unless it has image quality that is far superiour to ACR. I actually prefer the workflow of ACR over C1 by quite a margin.

[Scottes]

I am now such a fan of ACR, I may not bother going back to C1 when it is released, unless it has image quality that is far superiour to ACR. I actually prefer the workflow of ACR over C1 by quite a margin.

If PhaseOne keeps this crap up I may be an ACR convert, too. I am definitely seeing things in ACR which isn't possible in C1. Hell, CA correction alone makes ACR a keeper. And I finally purchased Pixort which now covers my sort/preview/delete functions pretty well. It ain't perfect but it's better than PS's File Browser IMHO. A little more time with ACR and I'm going to be looking for a better way to spend my C1 budget money.

[samdring]

Although C1 still has a magic quality about it's conversions that seem to require less PP in PS afterwards... many of us don't like to use ,.. for instance,.. the C1 sharpening anyway.


Agree entirely about the quality of C1 but I must have been asleep on sharpening - why don't people like C1 sharpening please?

[robekert]

Phase One has announced the release dates. Mac 29 Nov :D Windows 20 Dec :cry: :cry:

Woo hooo Mac users finially get some respect from a company. Hopefully they have fixed some of the problems that have existed in v3.5. Sharpening leaves much to be desired. Well we will just have to see. I like the C1 workflow. I am waiting to be pleasantly surprised :wink:
Cheers,
Rob

[Dale]

I haven't had very good luck with CS/ACR and 20D raw files. If I want to use ACR I guess I'll have to calibrate my camera using the CS script for calibrating cameras that is floating around. That will be another cost as you need a GretagMacbeth color checker card for calibrating. :( I may just end up shooting in jpeg. :)

[Scottes]

I haven't had very good luck with CS/ACR and 20D raw files.

I said the same thing until I picked up "Real World Camera RAW"

[drisley]

I said the same thing until I picked up "Real World Camera RAW"
That book gets a very good review (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/rw-cr.shtml).
Scottes, are you willing to sell your used copy?
:wink:

[Dale]

That book gets a very good review (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/rw-cr.shtml).
Scottes, are you willing to sell your used copy?
:wink:

Can I get after you? :lol:

[Scottes]

I said the same thing until I picked up "Real World Camera RAW"
That book gets a very good review (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/rw-cr.shtml).
Scottes, are you willing to sell your used copy?
:wink:

As soon as the new revised edition comes out. :-)

The only time I ever get rid of computer books is when I move, and I've only moved once in the last 12 years. Here's most of my current collection for computers and such.

http://www.itsanadventure.com/postimages/BookShelves.jpg

For some reason I can't find the other pic showing the other bookshelf, so this doesn't show most of the graphics apps, camera books, or security books. Or the other room full of books, nor the 23 boxes in the attic...

Movers hate me.

[drisley]

Either your lens has a weird case of distortion, or those shelves are ready to collapse! :shock: :lol:

[Dale]

At first I was upset with the Mac version being released and not windows however this may be a good thing for the windows people. :D I now look at as the Mac version being a beta windows version in that what corrections (and I'm sure some will be needed) in the Mac version will then be applied to the windows version for release in Dec. :cool:

I've tried C1 hacked for 20D files, DPP v1.5, Bibble v4.1, ACR v2.3, BreezeBrowser, and jpeg from the camera. In raw conversion I used as shot with no other adjustments for color, brightness etc and the jpeg was shot in srgb set one. Each converter has its own merits but the only one that had the blues closest to the actual objects(which I have at hand)was bibble :shock: with ACR and jpeg at a close second as viewd on my calibrated monitor. I find blues the hardest to get looking correct. Hopefully C1 v3.6 is much improved or I may have to learn how to get the best out of ACR or just give up on raw and shoot jpeg. ???

[drisley]

If you were set on using jpg, you could always use Canon's EVU for raw conversions. It produces output that is IDENTICAL to the in camera jpg.
Then you also have the option to change white balance in tricky lighting situations.
However, EVU has a bug (http://www.mts.net/~lftbrain/20d/evu.jpg) that produces blotchies in high ISO images.

[Dale]

There is an update to Dr Brown's CS script for batch processing ACR. Now all I have to do is create a D20 profile, for flash, sunny, and cloudy using ACR camera calibrating script. Then I can batch convert using DB's batch script and then if required apply minor adjustments in CS.

DB's script is available here: http://russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html