View Full Version : how do you shoot portrait while the sunset in the background?
Galaxy99
2nd of May 2008 (Fri), 13:39
This one is always in my mind. How to do a portrait as the sunset is in the background. The sun never not as strong as day light, but still create the back light. Using a fill-in flash will destroy the sunset atmosphere in my opinion. How to do a proper exposure on the person(s) but still keep the sun setting environment? Your input with/without sample is appreciated. :)
nouse4aname
2nd of May 2008 (Fri), 13:51
maybe a reflector and an off camera flash.
i had a shot like this before and i used flash, looked okay to me.
Wilt
2nd of May 2008 (Fri), 14:20
Reflector or fill flash, with intensity on the subject just a little bit less (-0.5 to -1EV) from the amount for 'full' exposure of the subject. If sunset exposure is f/11 1/60, for example, the flash set to provide Auto for a shooting aperture of f/8 or f/9 would give you the amount of light without it being so obvious in appearance that flash was used. A warming filter over the flash would help make it even less apparent!
tdodd
2nd of May 2008 (Fri), 16:02
Here are a couple of examples. I included a non-portrait at the same location because the sunset was a bit brighter. I then move on to photograph my girlfriend, but the sunset had almost disappared. They aren't great, as I had only had the camera for three months so was still operating in numpty mode (Program). The key thing to consider is that you are mixing two different exposures - one for the background, metered in the usual way, and one for the subject, which will be illuminated by the flash.
To tone down the sky I dialled in some negative EC (-1.33 stops in the first example and -2 stops in the second) to drop the overall exposure, thus darkening the background and the subject. I let the flash (580EX) run an ETTL2 mode with 0 FEC and that filled in the subject quite nicely in each shot.
A bit of experimentation was required in order to get the balance right (well, as I wanted it). In the first example there is no PP except sharpening. In the second I did bring up the levels by 0.5 stops in DPP. Now that 18 months have passed since taking these, I would approach the challenge just a little differently. I would use manual exposure to fix the background brightness to suit, regardless of the exact composition and position of the sun, and I would quite happily ride the FEC until I got things just perfect. I would also pay momre attention to the RGB histogram than I did back then, in order to verify my levels properly.
Exif data is in the images.
c71clark
3rd of May 2008 (Sat), 11:08
You can try using HDR also. Use your camera's Bracketing feature to take 3 to 6 frames of a static image, then combine in PS. Other than that, you will have to get light back onto the subject either through reflectors (better) or flash.
yogestee
4th of May 2008 (Sun), 06:50
This one is always in my mind. How to do a portrait as the sunset is in the background. The sun never not as strong as day light, but still create the back light. Using a fill-in flash will destroy the sunset atmosphere in my opinion. How to do a proper exposure on the person(s) but still keep the sun setting environment? Your input with/without sample is appreciated. :)
Like this?? Set your camera to manual and meter for the sunset.. I had my 430EX on ETTL with -2/3 exposure compensation..
Camera Model = Canon EOS 350D DIGITAL
Lens = Tamron SP AF28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF)
Exposure Time = 1/200"
F Number = F10
Exposure Program = Manual
ISO Speed Ratings = 400
bieber
4th of May 2008 (Sun), 07:03
My favorite to date was with an off-camera flash in a shoot-through umbrella really close to the subject (as in, close enough for me to hold it so it couldn't blow away ;))
Hermes
4th of May 2008 (Sun), 09:59
Fill-Flash with a 1 or .75 strength OC gel depending on how high the setting sun is.
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