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mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 12:30
My Dad has tickets for a mets game this Sunday, for mothers day. Mom's a mets fan.

Anyway they invited me to join them. I want to bring my 30d and 70-200 f/4 (a little slow for action I know) with no bag.

Has anyone had any problems getting into a stadium with an slr? MLB's site says you have have a film or digital camera. Hate to trek from Jersey only to home.

KENLUDE97
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 12:48
I went to a Buffalo Bills game and they state on there website no lens longer than 6". And they did ask to look in my bag, and at that time i did not have my 70-200... So it was a non-issue, and so went my pics ;)

Good luck, i would study there website, and maybe even call there customer service.

Enjoy
Ken

lexi73
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 12:50
Here is what the mets site says:
Camera/Video Equipment
Small film or digital still cameras are permitted in Shea Stadium. However, fans taking pictures will not be permitted to interfere with other fans' enjoyment of the game. Video cameras are not permitted in Shea Stadium at this time, due to security considerations.


I took my camera with 2 lenses to a Brewer game and had no problem at all. I had them all in a small bag.

Calzinger
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 12:52
I went to a Mets game at Shea back in September when they completely lost their 6 1/2 game win advantage. I'm pretty sure "professional" grade equipment isn't allowed, but if you can get past the bag check, you should obviously be fine. My suggestion would be to bring your camera and lens, unmounted, in a regular backpack or shoulder bag or something, nothing that looks like a camera bag. Most people don't understand the idea that you can remove a lens on an SLR, so if they're seen separately, he might not think much of it. I did that and also arrived at the game during the peak crowd so the checks did seem a bit rushed. You should be fine though as long as you don't try and stick out like a jerk. ;)

By the way, I wouldn't worry about the 70-200 4.0 being too slow. It's more likely to be a bit short, even on a 30D, dependent upon where you're sitting. Just be ready to crop A LOT unless you have really stellar seats.

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 13:11
Cool! Thanks!

I think we are in mezzanine section. Since the weather is going to be cool and rainy I was going put the lens and body in to my coat pocket! Tried that out last night and it worked. I could even fit the 300mm f/4L! hahah.

Just was not too sure how picky the security folks are. This suck how much security there is for a baseball game...I mean I don't feel any safer that women can have bags but men can't. Or taking my shoes off at the airport...I would love real security not an illusion.

Sorry on a tangent again. :D

Mike

Calzinger
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 13:35
I think we are in mezzanine section. Since the weather is going to be cool and rainy I was going put the lens and body in to my coat pocket! Tried that out last night and it worked. I could even fit the 300mm f/4L! hahah.
That could run less or more risk, really dependents. If you're caught with it in your jacket cause it's sticking out, then they might get suspicious as to why you're holding a lens in your jacket. If you put it in a bag, it's definitely going to be looked at, but you're then relying on that they might blow right by it, which is fairly likely in my opinion.

To be honest, I think you should bring it. Before I went to a Nets game in the Meadowlands (now IZOD Center or whatever), I posted on the forum seeking advice as to whether or not I should bring my gear and any precautions I should take. Of course every single person discouraged me in fear that I would be sent back to my car, even though I had VIP parking which was literally across the street from the stadium. Being the stubborn jerk that I am, I didn't listen to them and brought all my crap. Thank god I did so as everything went smoothly and I came home with some satisfactory pictures.

You definitely don't want to go there wondering why you didn't bring your camera. You might be okay with walking back to your car.

SMP_Homer
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 14:22
email them, and ask... they'll probably reply that it's all good... print off that reply, and bring it with you... I've done this for all pro events I've been to, and had to use it once to let me through!

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 14:28
You definitely don't want to go there wondering why you didn't bring your camera. You might be okay with walking back to your car.


For me there is no going back. I normally take the bus then take the train. Driving out the Queens is not my idea of a Sunday drive (and not on game day). I really should to stick the thing in mom's purse. Or hold it in my pocket and put it together before I get to the check point.

Ether way I emailed the fine folks and asked if 1) I could get in with a 6in lens and camera body and 2) if a small bag would be cool. And could I have both:rolleyes:

I know the site says 16"16"x8" bags are ok but if I had to bet they are like TSA and change rules when they feel like it.

Ideally I would love to take my domke f-2 with the 70-200 and 300mm just in case. But I think thats out the question.

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 15:52
Oh one last thing to change subject for a moment.

I have never shot a sporting event. How should I go about it? f/4 at 1/500 @ 200mm? ISO 200 or 400.

I'm lame I know...please help :(

pads69
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 16:04
I would leave it at home enjoy the game so you dont have to worry about everyone bumping your lens and the extra weight. Unless you have front row seats.your gona have to shoot the whole game to get 10 good pics from up high. If you do take it you will need about 1/400 to stop the action.

MichSt
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 16:22
I've never been to Shea, but I've taken my gear in the Comerica Park numerous times with no problem. If it's a day game, I'd just put it in Av at f/4, and adjust your ISO until you get at or above a 1/400 shutter. That should not be a problem durning the day. If it's a night game, once the lights go on it's a differnt story. You can get some funky meter readings since the field is lit, and the stands are not. I just use manual, set Tv to 1/400, ISO to 1600 and adjust the Av utill I get a combo that works. For sure, bring your gear if you can.

Calzinger
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 16:49
Oh one last thing to change subject for a moment.

I have never shot a sporting event. How should I go about it? f/4 at 1/500 @ 200mm? ISO 200 or 400.

I'm lame I know...please help :(
When I shot at Shea with my 40D and 70-200 2.8L, I plugged in Av, f/2.8, ISO 200. Cloud cover was very intermittent but the meter was able to handle it. Like has been said already, if it's a night game, you'll likely want to go into M and pick appropriate settings to correctly expose with 1/640" as the minimum shutter speed. I wouldn't think lighting conditions would change in a night game so that should be fine.

I'd just fear that 200mm won't be enough if you aren't that close. I was really struggling where I was from, but given the high magnification quality of these cameras and lenses, I was able to make some really ridiculous crops, some near 100% for web.

DDWD10
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 16:58
Best of luck, I couldn't even get my old Pentax film SLR into a basketball game because "it has a removable lens". What a load of crap.

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 20:48
When I shot at Shea with my 40D and 70-200 2.8L, I plugged in Av, f/2.8, ISO 200. Cloud cover was very intermittent but the meter was able to handle it. Like has been said already, if it's a night game, you'll likely want to go into M and pick appropriate settings to correctly expose with 1/640" as the minimum shutter speed. I wouldn't think lighting conditions would change in a night game so that should be fine.

I'd just fear that 200mm won't be enough if you aren't that close. I was really struggling where I was from, but given the high magnification quality of these cameras and lenses, I was able to make some really ridiculous crops, some near 100% for web.

I would truly love my take my 300mm but I think thats a going be a no at the gate. But this really for fun and if get on one good shot I will be happy.
I'm going to a day game 1pm so I think ISO 400 f/4 @ 1/400 will be good.

Did you have any problems getting in or just had it hand around your neck? Cause I would love to keep the rig in a small bag just for the train. Keep eyes off the goodies as much as posable.

-Mike

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 20:50
Best of luck, I couldn't even get my old Pentax film SLR into a basketball game because "it has a removable lens". What a load of crap.

I hear basketball and football security treats you like crap when you have a cam. I think its an over reaction, and sucks for honest folks

Badger49456
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 20:54
I went to a Tigers game in April. I just checked the Comerica Park website and they said any type of camera and video equipment is A-Okay.

"CAMERAS/VIDEO
Guests are welcome to bring still and video cameras into the park and may take pictures from their seats during the game. Guests are requested to not stand in aisles or obstruct others from viewing the game while taking pictures. Tripods, unipods, and monopods are not permitted in the park."

They also said they will check bags, but because I had my gear in the Lowepro Slingshot 100 I don't think they noticed it from a front-profile glance.

440roadrunner
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 20:58
WHAT IN HELL IS WRONG WITH US?
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I do NOT understand why you the public are putting up with this crap.

ALT1MATE
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 20:59
I brought my XTi with a Siggy 18-200 OS on a neck/shoulder strap (no bag). I had no problems except that the 200mm wasn't enough for the first row of upper deck. Its what I get for being cheap.

Calzinger
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:05
I would truly love my take my 300mm but I think thats a going be a no at the gate. But this really for fun and if get on one good shot I will be happy.
I'm going to a day game 1pm so I think ISO 400 f/4 @ 1/400 will be good.

Did you have any problems getting in or just had it hand around your neck? Cause I would love to keep the rig in a small bag just for the train. Keep eyes off the goodies as much as posable.

-Mike
I had the camera and lens in a shoulder bag, not the camera in hand. A big white lens such as yours would stick out much more than an 18-200, certainly looks more "professional". I'd think you'd run a much greater risk trying to get in with it exposed.

WHAT IN HELL IS WRONG WITH US?
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.WHY aren't you people up in arms about this kind of crap??......Every week I hear some story on the news about someone who was --for lack of a better descripion--assaulted by security somewhere, at some game, some event, some airport..
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I do NOT understand why you the public are putting up with this crap.
What in the world are you talking about? Stadiums are fully entitled to enforce whatever restrictions they like. How are they at fault for refusing you when you tried breaking the rules? Unless they put their hands on you or on your equipment, they're completely clean and are doing their job. I don't understand your logic or how it would even relate.

nadtz
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:10
WHAT IN HELL IS WRONG WITH US?

WHY aren't you people up in arms about this kind of crap??......Every week I hear some story on the news about someone who was --for lack of a better descripion--assaulted by security somewhere, at some game, some event, some airport..

I do NOT understand why you the public are putting up with this crap.

Erm, its private property, and realistically photographers are probably in a small overall percentage, if the venue doesn't want to allow photography they don't have to. Different venues have different rules, either deal with it or don't support it. I don't put up with it where I have a right to take photos (I've been through this over and over again with the CTA and the rent a cops they use) but considering the various vested interests when it comes to things like sporting events its a whole different can of worms.

tagvestibule
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:19
I go to every Saturday home game at Shea, plus a weeknight here and there. I have never had a problem getting in with my 40D, 70-200 f4 and Sigma 10-20. I keep them in a crumpler bag.

BTW, no matter where your seats are, if you show up early you are allowed to shoot batting practice from the field level. You can stand right behind the camera well if you want to and shoot like the pros. Gate C opens 2.5 hours before the game. Just know that they often skip batting practice if it's a day game after a night game.

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:22
I had the camera and lens in a shoulder bag, not the camera in hand. A big white lens such as yours would stick out much more than an 18-200, certainly looks more "professional". I'd think you'd run a much greater risk trying to get in with it exposed.


Well I was going to get a lens coat (black) to hide the white lens ;)

The 70-200 has one, but not the 300. I still think it would a size problem, big lens must be a pro. Trying to think like a rent a cop.

But then again mom is taking a bag and 300 would fit there...but...hmm

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:25
I go to every Saturday home game at Shea, plus a weeknight here and there. I have never had a problem getting in with my 40D, 70-200 f4 and Sigma 10-20. I keep them in a crumpler bag.

BTW, no matter where your seats are, if you show up early you are allowed to shoot batting practice from the field level. You can stand right behind the camera well if you want to and shoot like the pros. Gate C opens 2.5 hours before the game. Just know that they often skip batting practice if it's a day game after a night game.

Sorry just saw this...which crumpler?

Cause now I think I can use my 300mm soft bag (the one it comes with the lens) and carry my 30d with a 50mm tiny lens. I still would put a coat on the 300 to make it look less ummm pro like.

Layston
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:33
Last summer I went to McCoy Stadium in Providence to see a Pawtucket Red Sox game (minor league). I could have easily gone back to the car but I didn't want to leave my equipment in the car either. Their website said something about no professional level equipment. So I took my Tamron 28-300 and my XT without battery grip. It made a fairly small package and light. No problems getting in with it. Then later I saw someone shooting with a 70-200 f/4L. I think most likely if you don't try to hide it but also don't bring a bag full of gear, just a single camera and lens, then you'll probably be okay.

But as others have said, just send an email and ask. If you are that concerned and it sounds like there is "no going back" then don't put yourself in a potentially awkward position.

tagvestibule
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:34
Sorry just saw this...which crumpler?

Cause now I think I can use my 300mm soft bag (the one it comes with the lens) and carry my 30d with a 50mm tiny lens. I still would put a coat on the 300 to make it look less ummm pro like.

My Crumpler is the 6 Million Dollar Home.

Calzinger
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:38
But then again mom is taking a bag and 300 would fit there...but...hmm
That's something to seriously consider. When I went to that Nets game, I put stuff in my sister's bag. That'll always work to your advantage since you'll obviously look more credible than your mom.

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:47
That's something to seriously consider. When I went to that Nets game, I put stuff in my sister's bag. That'll always work to your advantage since you'll obviously look more credible than your mom.

That was my thought. My mom is a 52 year old 5'2" person not your hard core canon pro shooter. :D

JeffreyG
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 21:52
Every venue has different rules, but the strict ones also tend to post their rules plainly on the internet.

It's their building, so they call the rules. You can try to sneak stuff in, but you better have a backup plan you can live with in case they tell you 'no way, bub.'

Comerica Park in Detroit is one of the best. Bring what you want and have a nice day.

mleone
7th of May 2008 (Wed), 22:04
I really hope not to try and sneak anything by. I emailed them and waiting to hear back. Their site only says this:

"Camera/Video Equipment
Small film or digital still cameras are permitted in Shea Stadium. However, fans taking pictures will not be permitted to interfere with other fans' enjoyment of the game. Video cameras are not permitted in Shea Stadium at this time, due to security considerations."

What do they thing is a small camera? Thats my question. Other then that no info.

JeffreyG
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 06:35
I really hope not to try and sneak anything by. I emailed them and waiting to hear back. Their site only says this:

"Camera/Video Equipment
Small film or digital still cameras are permitted in Shea Stadium. However, fans taking pictures will not be permitted to interfere with other fans' enjoyment of the game. Video cameras are not permitted in Shea Stadium at this time, due to security considerations."

What do they thing is a small camera? Thats my question. Other then that no info.

The word 'small' in there is the problem because it is not specific. I personally think your 30D plus the 300/4 would be reasonable....but who knows if security will agree. You need to try and e-mail them for some kind of clarification.

mleone
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 08:09
The word 'small' in there is the problem because it is not specific. I personally think your 30D plus the 300/4 would be reasonable....but who knows if security will agree. You need to try and e-mail them for some kind of clarification.


I sent them an email yesterday. Still waiting to hear back. :rolleyes:

mleone
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 08:18
Well I can always do this, pick up a used 75-300 f/4-5.6 IS.

link (http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20298880.html)

Or just cave in and fish out the old 75-300 f/4-5.6 III (one without usm)

mleone
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 15:26
Here is there nice not answer from them

"Providing it is not a professional camera, you are fine. The lens is not to big."

So I guess a 30d is not a pro cam....cause I said so. hahah!

Calzinger
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 16:10
I'm going to refer you to the thread that I started regarding the NBA game I attended: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=481286

I really hate this professional word as it provides absolutely no clarification, but rather, lets the stadium security make their own judgements. And since most non-dSLR users are ignorant to the technology, you'll have to assume that anything beyond a P&S will be thought of as professional. Again, you and I may not think so, but at the point, it doesn't really matter what we think now does it.

I don't want to discourage you, I definitely think you should try bringing them camera. But just be ready for anything. I would strongly suggest trying to throw the cam in your ma's bag, lens unmounted.

tagvestibule
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 16:30
I honestly don't think you will have a problem. As I said before, I have never had a problem at Shea Stadium with a DLSR and a zoom (20+ games a year). Other stadiums/arenas may be different, but I can tell you first-hand - it is not a problem at Shea. The absolute worst-case scenario is that you get turned away at one gate and go to the next one (although this has never happened to me).

Here's a shot from my seat on 4/12 , albeit with my 10-20 (the 70-200 was in my bag). Enjoy Sunday's game. I will be there Saturday.http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2408385789_4d167dea49_b.jpg

photoguy6405
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 17:17
Yes, it's private property, and yes, they have the right to enforce their rules as long as they fall within the law. However, it's also our right to question rules and seek their repeal if they're unreasonable, and it out-of-line to chastise people for simply for not being weak and spineless and wanting seek a better situation. Doesn't mean they are obligated to repeal bad rules, of course, but sometimes positive change does happen when enough people have the cahones to stand up and say something.

mleone
8th of May 2008 (Thu), 20:41
I honestly don't think you will have a problem.

Nice shot! It good to hear someone who has been there not too long ago and what they encountered. So thank you.

I going to stop worrying about. Their email said a 6" lens is fine, the 70-200 is 6" (about w/o hood) Its not really white, but has a black lens coat. And if they say "is this a pro camera" I can always say why no I got it a best buy, something they can relate to.

And if the worst case happens, try a different gate or go home.

Personally I think the rules are keep people safe more the to keep Pro DSLR's out. Think of mayhem of a bunch of guys in the noise bleed section with a 500mm f/4 and tripod! Something like the days of folks camping in their seats. I mean who needs a cooler full of food and blankets and pillows!

So unmounted, in a bag should make it look less huge! And the 30D with 10-20 or 50mm makes it look tiny.

And the NBA is not the only ones who turn all SLR back, the NFL does it too.

Thanks everyone for the helpful ideas/advice. I will have to post what happens and some shots if can take them.

Double Negative
9th of May 2008 (Fri), 17:39
Anyone have info on Yankee Stadium? I'll be there in July, debating bringing some kit with me. Unfortunately, leaving it the car will not be an option... Even the 135L with extender will likely be too short; which leaves the 70-200mm and 100-400mm, LOL.

Calzinger
9th of May 2008 (Fri), 17:50
Anyone have info on Yankee Stadium? I'll be there in July, debating bringing some kit with me. Unfortunately, leaving it the car will not be an option... Even the 135L with extender will likely be too short; which leaves the 70-200mm and 100-400mm, LOL.
I once got some serious grief from security as I was leaving Yankee Stadium. The guy didn't seem to understand that I was on my way out, and yet he wanted me to go with him somewhere. I figured his superiors would have wanted to have a look at anything I took and make sure I deleted the pictures or something. Oh well, when he turned the other direction for a second I just walked away.

Andrushka
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 10:26
i have rolled into Angel stadium so many times (Anaheim, CA) with dSLR and different lenses (largest being a 70-200 F/4 - always handed security my obvious looking camera bag for bag check, no trouble, no questions asked. The only thing we would have to sneak in were cans of Dr. Pepper :-)

However, from my experience unless you are behind the dugout - 200mm isn't gonna cut it, even from the lower level. You can figure that even the pros in the photo wells next to the dugout are using 300's and up, and your seat wont be quite as good, ever. You're better off with a wide angle to capture the big stadium in all its grandure and get some pics with your friends/family.

Double Negative
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 10:57
Yeah, I would think a TC or two would be called for; 200mm definitely isn't long enough.

Calzinger
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 13:06
However, from my experience unless you are behind the dugout - 200mm isn't gonna cut it, even from the lower level. You can figure that even the pros in the photo wells next to the dugout are using 300's and up, and your seat wont be quite as good, ever. You're better off with a wide angle to capture the big stadium in all its grandure and get some pics with your friends/family.
Let's not forget that most of these pros likely aren't using a 1.6x crop body but a 1.3x 1D. Nevertheless, I really do agree. 200mm is barely enough unless you really enjoy cropping and have some serious faith in your lens.

mleone
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 15:42
For sure 200mm is sort. I only wish I had a TC. :(

I have been playing around here and trying to fit my 300mm into my little tiny bag. Which it does fit, packed nicely with my wool sweater I drag to game. I also have a little note form Shea staffers saying a ~6" lens is ok and well the 300mm is 7ish. So I fell this will be ok.

Needless to say I dont plan on getting any super great shots, maybe one nice one and bunch of ones I learn from. I'm taking, mounted of course, my 10-20mm for nice wide shots of Shea, Mom and Dad, our yearly mother's breakfast. If for some reason security say I cant use the lens then so be it.

I'm far from a pro, I just like take pictures and if cant then I will live. This game is more about time with my parents then pictures or baseball anyway. And in the end I think thats what 90% of my shots will be.

Mike

tagvestibule
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 19:44
Well, how did it go at Shea today? You certainly saw a good game!

mleone
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 19:55
Game was good for sure.

As for bring a camera it went well. I had my 10-20, 70-200 and 300mm in a small bag. Security did not even give it a 2nd look.

So I shot the whole day with 300mm @ f/4-4.5 ISO 250 with shutter speeds 1/1000-4000s! I grabbed about 600 shots of the game, mostly from using high speed shooting mode. Using the 300mm gave me a good look at players in the infield I have only cropped a few shots the rest are as is. I did use the 70-200 at the end of the game to get the team handshakes and the 10-20 for a wide view of field.

Thanks for all the great input and advice everyone!

http://picasaweb.google.com/mike.leone/MotherSDayAtShea

Calzinger
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 20:14
Looked through the album, got some good shots there. Glad to see everything worked out!

MichSt
12th of May 2008 (Mon), 08:20
Looks like you got some nice shots! Glad to hear everything worked out alright. Good info here for anyone else headed to a Mets game.

As for the reach w/a 300 - I find on my 30D I can crop down the photos quite a bit and still end up with a decent sharp looking shot. Here's one I took at a Tigers game last week. Seats are about mid-depth in right field. Shot with my 70-300 IS. f/5.6, 1/800, ISO 800, 300mm. Of course I couldn't crop that down enough to get a frame tightly filled with a player. But the results are good enought for me. I'm like you, just shooting for fun at the park.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2364/2477991777_c42ab33cff.jpg

mleone
12th of May 2008 (Mon), 11:29
Glad you guys like them. This was my first sports shooting and hoped it would turn out ok.

I was playing with some images this morning and your right I crop they puppies down to size!

KENLUDE97
12th of May 2008 (Mon), 12:25
And the NBA is not the only ones who turn all SLR back, the NFL does it too.




The NFL (Buffalo Bills) allows DSLR. I took mine last year to the Bills -vs- Pats game on Sunday night in Buffalo NY. Highlighted in BOLD RED. So they expect SLR's when mentioning lens Length.

From Buffalo Bills website
http://www.buffalobills.com/facility/ProhibitedPermittedItems.jsp


Permitted Items
- Additional clothing and blankets (if carried loosely)
- Bags no larger than 12"x12"x12"
- Binoculars
- Cameras with lenses of six (6) inches or less
- Food - unopened, single serve containers carried in clear plastic bags
- Seat cushions 15"x15" or smaller
- Small, pocket-sized electronic devices such as radios or hand-held TV's (fans will be asked to turn them on for inspection)
Prohibited Items
- Aerosol Cans
- Alcoholic beverages
- Animals (with the exception of guide dogs for the disabled)
- Bags larger than 12"x12"x12"
- Balls (beach balls, footballs, etc.)
- Bottles, cans, thermoses and other beverage containers
- Cameras with lenses longer than six (6) inches
- Chairs or seat cushions with arms or backs (other than those approved for persons with accessibility needs requirements) larger than 15"x15"
- Clothing with profane or abusive language, obscene graphics, or material considered to be indecent by Stadium Management
- Coolers and ice chests
- Fireworks
- Headwear or clothing that may impede the view of fans
- Illegal drugs and substances
- Inflatable devices (balloons, etc.)
- Laptop computers
- Large, professional style camera bags
- Laser pointer devices
- Monopods and tripods
- Noisemakers
- Promotional materials advertising organizations or companies not affiliated with the Buffalo Bills
- Radios or hand-held TV's larger than pocket-sized
- Strollers
- Sticks or poles
- Umbrellas
- Video Cameras
- Weapons (knives, box-cutters, firearms, etc.)

Karl C
12th of May 2008 (Mon), 13:07
Not bad for a first time. Watch your exposures - some look a little underexposed. For example, image 3044, it appears the shot was metered off the brighter background, leaving the foreground a shade dark. Unfortunately, if you meter the seats, the sky will be overexposed. In this situation, a graduated neutral density filter would help compensate.

My two bits.

iamaelephant
12th of May 2008 (Mon), 15:27
Prohibited Items
- Monopods and tripods

So if I rip one leg off my tripod it'll be okay? ;)

mleone
14th of May 2008 (Wed), 15:28
Not bad for a first time. Watch your exposures - some look a little underexposed. For example, image 3044, it appears the shot was metered off the brighter background, leaving the foreground a shade dark. Unfortunately, if you meter the seats, the sky will be overexposed. In this situation, a graduated neutral density filter would help compensate.

My two bits.


Yea I saw that too. It was tuff to figure what metering mode to use. I guess I can fix it in light room but I was too lazy. But you live and learn.

Thanks for the input

ALT1MATE
14th of May 2008 (Wed), 16:55
Cameras with lenses of six (6) inches or less

Damn, that includes a 70-200 4L... That sucks.

Double Negative
14th of May 2008 (Wed), 17:07
Cameras with lenses of six (6) inches or less

Damn, that includes a 70-200 4L... That sucks.

But is okay with the 70-300mm DO! Or a Sigmatammy 28-300mm...

tagvestibule
14th of May 2008 (Wed), 20:55
I'm going to the Preakness Stakes on Saturday and their security provisions say that you can bring "Cellular phones, cameras (up to 35mm), camcorders and binoculars." Do you guys think they are trying to avoid large-format cameras, or do you think they could possibly be talking about lens focal length?

MichSt
15th of May 2008 (Thu), 07:33
I'm going to the Preakness Stakes on Saturday and their security provisions say that you can bring "Cellular phones, cameras (up to 35mm), camcorders and binoculars." Do you guys think they are trying to avoid large-format cameras, or do you think they could possibly be talking about lens focal length?

Sounds like you should give them a call or email to clarify.

tagvestibule
16th of May 2008 (Fri), 16:30
Sounds like you should give them a call or email to clarify.

Thanks, but I tried both. Their email box is "full" (got bounced back) and they have not picked up the phone (been trying for 2 days).