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sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:11
I have removed the photo as I have gotten so many ideas & examples.
Thanks you all so much.
Kath
I mistakenly had my SS on 1/25 instead of 1/125 for the first few pictures. The WB was on flash. ISO 400. f/4. FEC was at 0 I believe. Terrible lighting in the arena also.
This is the original, no PP.
I have PS Elements 6.
Can the color & bg of this be fixed somehow? Please tell me YES!!
Thank you, Kath
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:11
Yes
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:13
OK :).....Would you wanna tell me how? :D
Damo77
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:14
The only reason it couldn't be saved is if you don't think it's razor sharp enough. The above small version certainly looks ok.
Colour-wise, it's pretty good, as indoor shots go.
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:19
I can definately add som USM to this to sharpen it up. I haven't done enough indoor shots other than in a controlled studio setting with my strobes. I looked at this & to me the color looks awful. Thought that there might be a trick to fix the color issue.
Kath
Chris71
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:20
Go into hue/saturation, and play with the saturation of each RGB channel.
I suspect you will see the best results clicking on the red channel, and pulling it back a little.
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:22
I don't now what software you have but here is an example from CS3 without spending a lot of time. I adjusted colors and cropped with a bit of sharpening.
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:27
Just did a quick try at the channels. That made a difference. I will have to work on that more tomorrow.
Thank you very much.
Any more suggestions.....I'm all ears.
Kath
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:29
Randy, when you say you adjusted colors, does that mean the RGB channels?
Thanks, Kath
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:33
It was not through RGB channels it was just going into Color Balance and changing by eye. RGB is probably pretty close to the same as color balance has the three primary colors.
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:33
Yup, I shoot raw all the time now.
Kath
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:36
Yup, I shoot raw all the time now.
Kath
Then just go in and change the RAW file to adjust the temperature to the desired look. This is usually done only when you open the file from RAW.
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:39
The color temperature is the top line as shown in this shot. At least with CS3 it is.
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:44
DOH!! The first couple times when I opened it in raw, I did adjust the temp. But I didn't go as low as 3400 until a minute ago!! :oops:
I didn't think that the WB would even be close to being that low. With flash I am usually around 5000 to 5900.
I should have just kept sliding that ol slider down.
You guys are great. :D I can now save my daughter-in-laws Grad photos!!
Thank you, Kath
Bill Pham
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:45
i'm still learning but give it a try. adjust the level some and noise removal. then a little usm. hope you don't mind.
Bill
sunnybeach
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:47
I don't mind at all. I am here to learn. What I wanted was to get that horrible orange color out of the photo.
Thanks Randy from MN ( I'm from Princeton, MN) I can now get these photo's pretty close to what I am looking for.
Thanks, Kath
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:51
I don't mind at all. I am here to learn. What I wanted was to get that horrible orange color out of the photo.
Thanks Randy from MN ( I'm from Princeton, MN) I can now get these photo's pretty close to what I am looking for.
Thanks, Kath
Princeton, My wife knows a lot of people from there as she works at a hospital in Coon Rapids.
My family actually originated from Milaca.
Bill Pham
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:54
hmmm must be a minnesota thing. well i hope you got it fix now. good luck.
Bill
RandyMN
10th of May 2008 (Sat), 23:57
hmmm must be a minnesota thing. well i hope you got it fix now. good luck.
Bill
You betcha!
Ya know, seeing folks from all around the world it's kind of cool when you can meet someone out here that is relatively close to home.
I always assume everyone is far away.
Bill Pham
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:00
yep it's pretty cool when you think about it. i already meet four member from here.
Bill
Maureen Souza
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:01
I gave it a try......
sunnybeach
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:01
Oh funny Bill. Just noticed your location.
Thanks guys for all your help. If this thread isn't too far down the page tomorrow, I'll post up my fixed photo.
Kath
RandyMN
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:03
Hey Sunnybeach, look, the Goddess of POTN just fixed your pic.
Must be pretty big day in Princeton when you attract the attention of the Goddesses!
Maureen Souza
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:04
Hey Sunnybeach, look, the Goddess of POTN just fixed your pic.
Must be pretty big day in Princeton when you attract the attention of the Goddesses!
:D:D:D
sunnybeach
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:08
Maureen. Now we're cookin'. Yeah.....real skin color!!
I'll give it a go tomorrow.
Thanks, Kath
Bill Pham
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:09
wow a visit from the goddess herself. you should feel so lucky. and post it tomorrow.
Bill
sunnybeach
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:10
Hey Sunnybeach, look, the Goddess of POTN just fixed your pic.
Must be pretty big day in Princeton when you attract the attention of the Goddesses!
Yup.....the end to a perfect day. :D
Maureen Souza
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:13
I could post several options....I am not sure what shade those orange seats are in person.
RandyMN
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:14
Well, Black and White is always the safest way to correct color.:rolleyes:
Maureen Souza
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:15
Well, Black and White is always the safest way to correct color.:rolleyes:
Sometimes it is the only way out....;)
sunnybeach
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:21
(Quote) Well, Black and White is always the safest way to correct color
Sometimes it is the only way out....;)
I will remember this.
Thanks again to all, Kath
suzyb
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:46
I had to put my two cents in on a fix. Cloned out the divider/rail/pole thingie too.
RandyMN
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:49
Suzyb, thanks for getting rid of that flash reflection. You did a nice job.
So what did you do, clone?
suzyb
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 00:55
Suzyb, thanks for getting rid of that flash reflection. You did a nice job.
So what did you do, clone?
Yea, mostly cloning. Some healing brush on the reflection of the cellophane.
sunnybeach
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 01:04
Wow, nice job!! I am going to have a tough time doing better than that. I might need more than a day to PP this one before I post it again. :lol: I'm just learning the cloning & healing tools.
Thanks again for all the help, Kath
Radtech1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 01:20
I tweaked the color in Elements 2.0.
Tell me, does Elements 6 no longer have the Color Cast Correction Tool, as Elements 2 has? If not, that is a shame that a very useful tool is gone.
Cloning out the flash reflections is a no-brainer, so I am not even going to bother on this one. Just wanted to take a quick stab at the color.
Rad
seekphotography
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 01:37
cropped/colored/usm/slight background blurring.
missed the section between his arm but it was a quickie.
RandyMN
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 01:38
I tweaked the color in Elements 2.0.
Cloning out the flash reflections is a no-brainer, so I am not even going to bother on this one. Just wanted to take a quick stab at the color.
Rad
You must be better than I am as cloning is not a 'No Brainer'.
Cloning is a skill just as color correction and I looked at those bleachers and didn't even try because I knew it would take some work.
Hmmm, Okay, maybe I was afraid of work... Well, WHATEVER!
Siphanh
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 01:55
I ended up spending 10mins with your photo.
Added a slight lens blur, unsharp mask, & blue filter.
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9924/04411copynu4.jpg
pickle1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 07:59
I felt it needed to be cropped then adjusted.
Swift
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 08:19
The one above me looks the best...
Here's my try:
http://i31.tinypic.com/fviagx.jpg
HankScorpio
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 09:13
http://www.techdystopia.com/photos/044%20_edit.jpg
I like this game.
Radtech1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 10:45
...as cloning is not a 'No Brainer'. :?: ??? :?:
All you have to do is put what you do want on top of what you don't.
For example, on the iteration I posted, I got rid of the reflection over her shoulder. All I did was cut/copied the chair above the one with the flare, moved it down, and lined it up. A little erasing to soften the edges and done.
It really is a no-brainer.
Rad
Radtech1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 10:47
But the question remains (and anyone with Elements 6 can answer it, not just the OP):
Does Elements 6 no longer have the Color Cast Correction Tool, as Elements 2 has?
Rad
S.Horton
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 10:52
DOH!! The first couple times when I opened it in raw, I did adjust the temp. But I didn't go as low as 3400 until a minute ago!! :oops:
I didn't think that the WB would even be close to being that low. With flash I am usually around 5000 to 5900.
I should have just kept sliding that ol slider down.
You guys are great. :D I can now save my daughter-in-laws Grad photos!!
Thank you, Kath
And if you do not already have some noise reduction software, consider getting a copy for these photos.
Noiseware/Pro
Noiseninja
... to name a pair.
RandyMN
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 11:39
:?: ??? :?:
All you have to do is put what you do want on top of what you don't.
For example, on the iteration I posted, I got rid of the reflection over her shoulder. All I did was cut/copied the chair above the one with the flare, moved it down, and lined it up. A little erasing to soften the edges and done.
It really is a no-brainer.
Rad
Oh, well now that you explianed it for me that way I guess cloning really is a 'no brainer'.
But wouldn't that make sliding a couple sliders to change color a no brainer also???
Radtech1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 12:33
Oh, well now that you explianed it for me that way I guess cloning really is a 'no brainer'.
But wouldn't that make sliding a couple sliders to change color a no brainer also???
Well, that was sort of my point. Elements 2 had a Color Correction Tool - just click on something that is "white", in this case, I went off the shirt, and then once you click the colors are globally shifted so that the clicked item IS white.
Now if Adobe, in thier infinite wisdom, got rid of a very usefull tool ... well then there is nothing to be done about that (Except to pick up a copy of Elements 2.0 on EBay for six dallars!)
Rad
tdodd
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 15:02
I mistakenly had my SS on 1/25 instead of 1/125 for the first few pictures. The WB was on flash. ISO 400. f/4. FEC was at 0 I believe. Terrible lighting in the arena also.
This is the original, no PP.
I have PS Elements 6.
Can the color & bg of this be fixed somehow? Please tell me YES!!
Thank you, Kath
I have a simple edit that I would like to share - I think I got the colour sorted fairly well - but you have not enabled Image Editing in your profile, so according to the rules of the site we should not be editing your photo and posting back a new version. If you turn on image editing I'll post my effort. See the "IMAGE EDITING OK" link over on the left of this post. That's what you need to enable for your profile.
Cheers.
Nursedad
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 17:33
Here's my take at it. Not sure what color the seats actually were, but this is what I came up with during my corrections:
Converted to LAB and added a subtle curve. Flattened and adjusted a green cast with a hue/sat adjustment layer.
http://www.thoughtsonhim.com/forumPics/colorEnhance.jpg
sunnybeach
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 21:17
Thank you all for the help. I will be working on this in the next few days.
I have removed the photo as I have gotten enough feedback & examples.
Kath
Radtech1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 21:46
Thank you all for the help. I will be working on this in the next few days.
I have removed the photo as I have gotten enough feedback & examples.
Kath
I hope it works out for you. But now I am really wondering, does Elements 6 have the Color Correction tool?
Rad
suzyb
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 22:06
I hope it works out for you. But now I am really wondering, does Elements 6 have the Color Correction tool?
Rad
In Elements 6, the levels adjustment screen has black, gray and white eye droppers that adjust the colors when you choose one them and click on an area in the photo. Is that what you mean?
Radtech1
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 23:13
In Elements 6, the levels adjustment screen has black, gray and white eye droppers that adjust the colors when you choose one them and click on an area in the photo. Is that what you mean?
Could be, in 2.0, it is found in the drop-down menus under Enhance>Adjust Color>Color Cast, which brings up an eye dropper. It ONLY shifts color, and does not alter the brightness or contrast. Great fast tool, and I wish the full version of PS had it.
Rad
suzyb
11th of May 2008 (Sun), 23:58
Oh, okay...found that, too.
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