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SMP_Homer
2nd of February 2009 (Mon), 16:05
Finally got mine.... I'm now a member of this club :-)

nik.hisham
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 04:19
Congrats on your new lens. Here's a welcome gift. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3522/3250325902_a7983f9727_o.jpg

nik.hisham
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 04:31
Here's another. After putting it to use in real world situations (shot for a client for the past week), I'm finding this lens a hit and miss in terms of getting things sharp. If I try to do a quick draw, more often than not, the image will be a bit soft - like the one below. But if I take my time to aim, focus and compose, it gets better. Compare that to my 70-200 2.8L IS, which I can just aim and shoot in the blink of an eye, and 9 times out of 10, still get a crisp image.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/3250325920_513265377e_o.jpg

DonJuanMair
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 11:27
what aperture are you using most of the time?

drPheta
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 18:15
Looks like both those shots were stopped down a bit, f8 and f5.6 respectively. I wonder if there's a difference in AF with it compared to using it on my 1D (which is what I got it for) and my 40D.

nik.hisham
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 19:25
Yes, f8 and f5.6 respectively. Fwiw, the F1 boat pic is from a 400D body (borrowed, not mine) whilst the waiter is on a 450D (mine). My thoughts are that the body affects how well the lens focuses as well. I seem to consistently get better results on the 450D than on the 400 - well that's my perception, at least. But on either body, I still need to take my time to let the lens focus properly to get a good picture.

Planning to get a 50D next, to use as my primary body whilst the 450D is my backup. Then I can stop borrowing the 400D for backup. I'm hoping the tokina likes the 50D better...

mchong75
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 19:26
Yes, f8 and f5.6 respectively. Fwiw, the F1 boat pic is from a 400D body (borrowed, not mine) whilst the waiter is on a 450D (mine). My thoughts are that the body affects how well the lens focuses as well. I seem to consistently get better results on the 450D than on the 400 - well that's my perception, at least. But on either body, I still need to take my time to let the lens focus properly to get a good picture.

Planning to get a 50D next, to use as my primary body whilst the 450D is my backup. Then I can stop borrowing the 400D for backup. I'm hoping the tokina likes the 50D better...

Was there any PP on the boat shot?

nik.hisham
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 19:49
yup. I think it was a 3 exposure HDR using photomatix. Beyond that, I did some other stuff but I can't remember what it was that I messed with.

Phut
3rd of February 2009 (Tue), 23:12
i'll have to agree with the 400D body. i also shoot with a 400D and sometimes, i feel that the focusing is a bit soft.

nik.hisham
6th of February 2009 (Fri), 02:47
I'm finding that I can get away with some slow shutter speeds with this lens. This one is hand held, indoors.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3489/3253462110_90859d36b5_o.jpg

_aravena
11th of February 2009 (Wed), 23:46
Just got this lens and I'm excited! Some first shots @ 2.8. Man this thing is sharp for 2.8.

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v6/p773818716-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v6/p668221639-4.jpg

nik.hisham
15th of February 2009 (Sun), 19:59
This was from yesterday evening.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/3281870332_241e2e7455_o.jpg

augenblick
15th of February 2009 (Sun), 20:04
If I stick with crop body this will be my next lens. Drool

nik.hisham
15th of February 2009 (Sun), 20:37
I think I've read a few posts here saying that you could also use this lens on a FF body. But I didn't follow the thread so don't know much of what was discussed other than that you could use it at 16mm but would get heavy vignetting at anything wider.

augenblick
15th of February 2009 (Sun), 20:39
I think I've read a few posts here saying that you could also use this lens on a FF body. But I didn't follow the thread so don't know much of what was discussed other than that you could use it at 16mm but would get heavy vignetting at anything wider.

Why would one spend $600-$700 for a 16mm prime?

nik.hisham
15th of February 2009 (Sun), 20:45
lol. beats me. But as far as the tokina 11-16 goes, its as close to a prime as a zoom lens will get. Only 5 mm from end to end of the focal range, although the visual effect is quite noticeable when comparing shots at 16 vs 11.

SMP_Homer
16th of February 2009 (Mon), 06:52
Only 5 mm from end to end of the focal range

it's actually 6....

nik.hisham
16th of February 2009 (Mon), 07:49
it's actually 6....

Uh... oops. Yeah, its 6. I was never good at math :)

Brennan.M
16th of February 2009 (Mon), 09:34
gah, I really want a UWA and this lens is at the top of my list

Jeff81
17th of February 2009 (Tue), 23:46
I guess I'd better put up some teaser shots that I took with the second toke I'm interested in selling.
http://tomyi.smugmug.com/photos/368514430_R88TB-M.jpg

http://tomyi.smugmug.com/photos/373624507_WU2dV-M.jpg

http://tomyi.smugmug.com/photos/352095170_aE6kB-L.jpg

http://tomyi.smugmug.com/photos/352095207_RJ6QY-M.jpg

http://tomyi.smugmug.com/photos/363801942_udEHd-L.jpg

http://tomyi.smugmug.com/photos/363804299_gwV7R-L.jpg

I've had the Tokina 12-24mm f4, Wigma, and the Toke 11-16mm. Never owned the Canon but I did test it out thoroughly against the wigma here.
http://tomyi.smugmug.com/gallery/2153699_6ikQu#111709365_GnWtY

And I can honestly say that the 11-16 is on par with other top notch L grade lenses. It's noticeably sharper than the other ultrawides and a pleasure to process the RAW image as it's very responsive and offers a lot more detail than my old wigma did.

I'll miss it now that I'm upgrading to Full frame but I guess I'll have to live with my Sigma 20mm f1.8. Not as wide but it's really fast and focuses really close, which is what I really like.

I like the last shot of the inside of the Santa Barbara courthouse. I have an almost identical shot that I took.

Karl Johnston
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 00:53
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3343/3280378950_1604e3fbc3.jpg?v=0
http://flickr.com/photos/karljohnston/3280378950/

On a 50D

nordstern1
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 01:00
nice pics guys! i sold mine recently & already miss it...

ride5000
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 06:51
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/3281594579_1b60a6fc0b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3281594579/)

Canon EOS 20D
f/4.0, 0.008 sec (1/125), ISO 100, 11 mm

Simply Ravishing
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 12:05
Wow those are some crazy colored leaves! I can't wait to get this lens, I am trading my 17-40 for it!

nik.hisham
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 15:34
Wow those are some crazy colored leaves! I can't wait to get this lens, I am trading my 17-40 for it!

I'm curious. What is it that you don't like about the 17-40L that you want to trade for a Tokina 11-16? No offense meant. I just feel that it is a shame to give up an L for a 3rd party lens. That said, I do have the 11-16 and am pleased with it.

The-great-328ic
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 21:39
Wow those are some crazy colored leaves! I can't wait to get this lens, I am trading my 17-40 for it!


I just did the opposite you're doing. I traded my 11-16 for the 17-40

jacobsen1
19th of February 2009 (Thu), 22:36
I just feel that it is a shame to give up an L for a 3rd party lens.

3rd party or not, it's trading a "standard" range zoom for a UWA zoom... That choice should depend on what/how you like to shoot, not brand/line preferences.

Simply Ravishing
20th of February 2009 (Fri), 14:18
3rd party or not, it's trading a "standard" range zoom for a UWA zoom... That choice should depend on what/how you like to shoot, not brand/line preferences.


Indeed I shoot mostly landscapes and cityscapes so I wanted the wide, and having f/2.8 will just be an added bonus although I rarely handhold my shots

kwu
21st of February 2009 (Sat), 02:54
Got mine this past September. Love the UWA and super fast 2.8 [and sharp!].

jbgeach
22nd of February 2009 (Sun), 20:15
it's actually 6....
I am confused 16-11 = 6? I would say that is 5mm of zoom. But then again I was always better at physics than math

_aravena
22nd of February 2009 (Sun), 20:17
Physics is math...but anyway. So new shots.

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v4/p953764535-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v4/p1044410487-4.jpg

Jpiano
23rd of February 2009 (Mon), 02:08
I really want this lens!!!! It is next on my list!

USMCWayne
23rd of February 2009 (Mon), 10:12
Boys and Girls District tournament this past weekend.

I typically just carry my 30d with an 85 1.8, but this weekend I used just about everything in my bag.

I started out with the 30d/85 combo, as it's the set-up I use when I absolutely, positively have to get something for publication. But this weekend I also hung my XT and the 11-16 around my neck, and used it to grab crowd shots as well as some court action (although nothing I submitted to any newspaper).

BTW, I also used my Tamro 28-75 2.8 and my Kenko 1.4 teleconverter with my 85 with good results, but that's another story.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/IMG_2641.jpg
My five-year old just had to have one of those foam fingers, and how could I refuse? We live in another town, but I am a product of the Wolf Point school system...and the finger was free. My son was such a good sport for the entire weekend, basically not complaining much until the 4th quarter of the 14th game we'd attended. That's when he said, "Dad, basketball is two words...bor-ing".

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/IMG_2615.jpg
Sometimes it's hard to pass up the opportunity to rub a newly buzzed head, as evidenced by the hand that's found the head of Harlem's Talor FirstRaised during warm-ups between Harlem and Glasgow at the 2B basketball tournament in Wolf Point.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/IMG_7270.jpg
Wolf Point's fans shower their gymnasium floor with toilet paper as the final buzzer sounds, and the Wolves prevail over Harlem 62-53 in the 2B championship game. Both teams move on to the Northern Divisional tournament in two weeks in Cut Bank.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/IMG_7262.jpg
Not a keeper, but an example of the reason I wanted this lens. Nice depth of field, the 2.8, and very dramatic possibilities.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/IMG_2649.jpg
Ditto on this, although it also shows the possibility of capturing some interesting sports action...if you can get real close.

BTW, one shot I was always looking for (which I didn't get) with the 11-16 was from deep in the corner during an inbound play. I kept hoping to catch a trap deep in the corner, with the offensive player being harassed by a couple defenders.

binlerne
24th of February 2009 (Tue), 22:19
I just pulled the trigger on this lens. After days of scouring the B&S forums to no avail, I bought it from B&H Photo. Now to start hovering over UPS's website until it arrives!

Simply Ravishing
24th of February 2009 (Tue), 22:40
Just got mine in the mail after making the trade... going out to test it out tonight on the beautiful city of Seattle, I should have some shots posted in a few hours =)

Simply Ravishing
25th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:06
And here are some shots, as promised. They are all straight off the card, no processing whatsoever, and were shot using manual focus, liveview, and mirror lockup.

Dr. Jose Rizal Bridge
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/3307903793_eef9ddf95f_b.jpg

Dr. Jose Rizal Park
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3307903801_79318abaf8_b.jpg

Yesler Way overpass
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3307903823_073bd8216e_b.jpg

The Space Needle from the turnaround near the Experience Music Project
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3307903833_861ab733a6_b.jpg

And finally, The Space Needle through the trees
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3307903845_2211a16d21_b.jpg

nik.hisham
25th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:10
Congrats on the new lens! That third one is pretty cool. Were you leaning against the railing to do the long exposure?

Simply Ravishing
25th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:15
Nah, I used a tripod for all of these. I don't have that steady of a hand =)

SillyGuy
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 03:18
anyone selling theirs? i want to buy it.....PM me!

if i don't get any offers to sell, i will just buy it from b&h tomorrow!!

thx!

USMCWayne
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 10:15
Sorry. I'm not selling mine, and unless you're willing to be very, very patient it may be pretty hard finding a used one.

I did find a used one a POTN member was selling, unbelieveably, shipped for $475 with a thin UV filter. The last time I checked, the 11-16's were selling new for $569 without a filter and shipping not included.

Until I fell into the lens I bought, it seems the best used prices were in the neighborhood of $550.

Good luck. It's everything I was looking for in an UWA.

SillyGuy
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 12:53
ok, i just bought mine of B&H...it was in stock .....i'll be getting it on monday! :D

Sharpstat
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 14:47
Nah, I used a tripod for all of these. I don't have that steady of a hand =)


Nice captures. Now I have to make a trip to Seattle for the Experience project and Greenwood cemetary amongst many other spots to shoot pictures.

Simply Ravishing
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 16:04
Nice captures. Now I have to make a trip to Seattle for the Experience project and Grennwood cemetary amongst many other spots to shoot pictures.


It's a great place, so many different things to take pictures of. Although I am looking forward to traveling a bit this summer, you can only take so many shots of the Seattle skyline... haha

gool
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 21:05
Got mine a few days ago. Now I need to go out and take some pictures. Indoors it seems fairly quick and pretty sharp. The focusing distance isn't that great and I seem to be really close to things sometimes. Gotta be careful I don't scratch the lens. :)

Sharpstat
26th of February 2009 (Thu), 22:16
Got mine a few days ago. Now I need to go out and take some pictures. Indoors it seems fairly quick and pretty sharp. The focusing distance isn't that great and I seem to be really close to things sometimes. Gotta be careful I don't scratch the lens. :)



You'll be okay as far as "scratching the lens" The glass is hardened. I'm sure you'll leave the supplied hood on?

gool
27th of February 2009 (Fri), 01:35
You'll be okay as far as "scratching the lens" The glass is hardened. I'm sure you'll leave the supplied hood on?

Hood will be on definitely when outdoors as I'm well aware of the flare. :)
My cousin has a few scratches on his copy so I'll be careful.

When shooting up close, I can see myself getting too close to things that the hood won't block even though the minimum focus distance is not that close.

shaolinmonk
27th of February 2009 (Fri), 09:27
I am confused 16-11 = 6? I would say that is 5mm of zoom. But then again I was always better at physics than math

i just counted it out lol

11 12 13 14 15 16 then add.. equals 6 lol

ride5000
27th of February 2009 (Fri), 13:29
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3308221528_61f77e589d.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3308221528/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3291548668_d458a36ac0.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3291548668/)

fwiw, i never use the hood, and i don't dislike flare. ;)

MPCman
27th of February 2009 (Fri), 16:34
i really like the first pic ride5000 :)

origamione
27th of February 2009 (Fri), 22:10
Fantastic shot, love the color rendition. Any PP done on this one?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3308221528_61f77e589d.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3308221528/)

fwiw, i never use the hood, and i don't dislike flare. ;)

ride5000
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 06:55
hey guys, thanks for the complements...

all PP was done in LR2.

according to the metadata here, (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aa/3308221528/meta/) wb was as shot, i added a bit of saturation and vibrance, black clipping was 0, shadows in the tone curve were pulled down slightly, overall tone curve set to linear, and just about everything else was LR defaults.

one thing i will say is that if anyone is working with adobe camera raw and is NOT using the adobe beta custom camera profiles, you're missing out. i think a lot of the color accuracy is due to using them. personally i've found a pretty large increase in my overall IQ and satisfaction using them.

another factor is that i shot the pic just before sunset. :)

hth
ken

Simply Ravishing
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 10:21
I was able to get out last night after work to snap these in downtown Seattle.


The Madison Street overpass
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3315992514_73cdfb4a5f_b.jpg

Looking back at the city from the park at Pier 62/63....4 Shot pano stitched in photoshop
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3517/3315992504_21cf33b995_b.jpg

At the Harbor Steps, near the waterfront and Pike Place Market
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3527/3315992496_34ceff67b9_b.jpg

DonJuanMair
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 10:22
that second one is great!

but overall great series!

Simply Ravishing
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 10:35
that second one is great!

but overall great series!

Thanks! I just wish the sky wasn't so ugly =(

DonJuanMair
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 10:42
you mean the light reflections?

Simply Ravishing
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 10:50
you mean the light reflections?


The color just seems nasty to me, I don't know, maybe I'm just picky.

jcp2000
28th of February 2009 (Sat), 20:09
ahhh next piece of glass on my list

USMCWayne
1st of March 2009 (Sun), 11:39
Such a great lens for spontaneous moments.

At about the three minute mark of the 4th quarter, I swapped out the 28-75 2.8 on my XT for the 11-16, and kept my 85 1.8 on my 30d for "regular" action.

As the final buzzer sounds on Malta's 47-45 win over No 1 and previously undefeated Fairfield, fans pour onto Glasgow's gymnasium floor, celebrating another Northern Divisional championship. 23-0 Malta moves on to the State tournament in Hamilton next weekend, as the sole undefeated Class B team in the State.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/Montana%202B%20tournament%202009/IMG_2698.jpg

Malta is the only team to beat Fairfield over the past two seasons; a double-OT win in last year's Divisional championship and this time. Malta was upset in the semi-finals of last season's state tournament, and Fairfield cruised to the title. Malta won the title the season before that (2007).

USMCWayne
1st of March 2009 (Sun), 12:01
Maybe one more...

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/Montana%202B%20tournament%202009/IMG_2687.jpg

Up by one with 23 seconds on the clock, Malta head coach Terry Lindgren and assistants Delmer Hentry and Lori Carney discuss defensive strategy with the M-Ettes. Malta held on for a two point win, 47-45, and move on to the State Tournament in Hamilton next weekend as the Northern Division champions.

The more I look at this picture, the more I love it.

Jessica Cole (a Freshman) appears to be praying, Fairfield (with an All-State 6'4" post player who had already scored 21 points) appears to be breaking their huddle and, if you look closely, the various players hands on their legs don’t match up. All of girls have their hands on the thighs of the girl next to them, and coach Lindgren is touching Tatafu’s hand/Denham’s leg and apparently telling Berg something about what he wants them to do defensively (or what to do if Fairfield makes a basket).

Drama, intensity, and emotion, all in one shot.

I wonder if the local paper will even use it?

ESMcBlurM3
2nd of March 2009 (Mon), 09:15
subscribing - i fear this is next up on my list

enginyr
3rd of March 2009 (Tue), 15:40
I really want a super wide angle lens and please anyone chime in here....

Canon vs Tokina.

1st Both are extremely sharp which is my main concern
Second concern is I want to use it for portraits if I have to which gives the lead to the canon.
Third is the 2.8 but the tokina seems soft at 2.8 which again takes me back the sharp 3.5 on the canon.
Price isn't a concern since they are very close.

_aravena
3rd of March 2009 (Tue), 15:47
The Tok is not soft at F2.8 and how is the canon better at portraits than the Tok?

Sharpstat
3rd of March 2009 (Tue), 22:09
I really want a super wide angle lens and please anyone chime in here....

Canon vs Tokina.

1st Both are extremely sharp which is my main concern
Second concern is I want to use it for portraits if I have to which gives the lead to the canon.
Third is the 2.8 but the tokina seems soft at 2.8 which again takes me back the sharp 3.5 on the canon.
Price isn't a concern since they are very close.


I've owned both and could live with either one but now own the Tokina. You might be getting bad information from people that DO NOT own either lens? I'm using it on a MKIIN.

Simply Ravishing
3rd of March 2009 (Tue), 22:44
I can't comment on the 10-20 but I traded the 17-40L for the 11-16 and don't regret it for a minute.

ride5000
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 11:04
who on earth uses an UWA for a portrait lens?

i mean, you can shot people with it, but it ain't gonna look "portraity."

_aravena
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 11:47
It can look quite nice actually.

nik.hisham
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 16:59
It can look quite nice actually.

I was exploring this possibility. On a 1.6 crop, at 16 mm, it kind of gives the same field of view as the 24L on a 5D would. But thats about where the similarity ends, I would think.

ride5000
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 18:45
It can look quite nice actually.

oh don't get me wrong.. never said it won't look "nice!" :)

it's just not what most people are going to envision when they think "portrait."

i find the lens is really superlative on the 16mm end, btw... very very low distortion and vignetting, even wide open.

DonJuanMair
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 19:48
for me it would be way too wide, i think my 50mm is too wide for head shots, it makes the models face look wider than it is. so god knows what this would do

enginyr
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 22:29
The Tok is not soft at F2.8 and how is the canon better at portraits than the Tok?


I shouldn't say "better". I should say that the 22 is just narrow enough to get a tighter shot, not including their whole body. I think the 16 is just too wide. I don't want to get this lens as a rare lens. I'd like to use it shooting people and then crowds and then landscape. I have a tamron 28 and it is a bit too narrow but an excellent sharp lens.

nik.hisham
4th of March 2009 (Wed), 23:02
Just something I shot yesterday. I was sick and was stuck to the confines of my house, so I had to shoot something, right?

This is 16 mm on a 50D.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3327630449_e3d54046ea_o.jpg

tunin
5th of March 2009 (Thu), 05:04
I had the CANON 10-22 and then switched to Tokina 11-16 as I needed f/2.8 - there a a few reasons I like the Tokina better between the two other than the f/2.8. It is built so much better, I also have the 10-17 fish and I simply love it it is my second favour lens - after the nifty fifthy. :-)

I really want a super wide angle lens and please anyone chime in here....

Canon vs Tokina.

1st Both are extremely sharp which is my main concern
Second concern is I want to use it for portraits if I have to which gives the lead to the canon.
Third is the 2.8 but the tokina seems soft at 2.8 which again takes me back the sharp 3.5 on the canon.
Price isn't a concern since they are very close.

origamione
5th of March 2009 (Thu), 05:36
Whoa...nice shot nik. Hey, i just ordered this lens, should be arrived tomorrow. :)

Just something I shot yesterday. I was sick and was stuck to the confines of my house, so I had to shoot something, right?

This is 16 mm on a 50D.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3327630449_e3d54046ea_o.jpg

nik.hisham
5th of March 2009 (Thu), 06:22
Thanks Frank. And congrats on your new Tok! Looking forward to seeing your handiwork with it.

origamione
5th of March 2009 (Thu), 07:00
Thanks Frank. And congrats on your new Tok! Looking forward to seeing your handiwork with it.

Can't wait to get hold of the lens. BTW, get well soon.

enginyr
5th of March 2009 (Thu), 15:34
just pulled the trigger on the tokina. I looked thru hundreds of pics online and the tokina looked VERY sharp compared to the sharp canon. Build isn't really a factor to me since I'm not using this stuff for weight lifting. I treat it very delicately, the way expensive electronics should be treated. Hopefully the extra 1mm on the wide and 4mm on the narrow won't byte me on the arse. Unsubscribing...

origamione
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 04:41
Just received the lens couple of hours ago. Really like this lens. :)
Both photo shot with CPL, PPed a little in DPP & PS.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_4983.jpg

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_4980.jpg

Angry Dad
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 05:25
I have a serious question about this lens. Does anyone think the 2.8 could double as a close up lens? I know the main purpose is UWA, but if I wanted to shoot an infants feet at 2.8, how would this lens do?

origamione
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 06:39
I have a serious question about this lens. Does anyone think the 2.8 could double as a close up lens? I know the main purpose is UWA, but if I wanted to shoot an infants feet at 2.8, how would this lens do?

It's possible but you'll get strange disproportionate feet though due to the uwa perspective.

ride5000
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 07:08
keep in mind the minimum focus distance on this UWA is on the "longer" side.. and as a result the max magnification is on the low end.

John_TX
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 07:08
I have a serious question about this lens. Does anyone think the 2.8 could double as a close up lens? I know the main purpose is UWA, but if I wanted to shoot an infants feet at 2.8, how would this lens do?

The Canon 10-22 has a closer focusing distance than the Tokina 11-16.

origamione
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 08:37
Taken earlier today, shot in the evening.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_4992.jpg

Angry Dad
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 09:46
keep in mind the minimum focus distance on this UWA is on the "longer" side.. and as a result the max magnification is on the low end.
Crap. I forgot about that. Crappy bokeh also?

drPheta
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 17:47
Bokeh and UWA usually don't go hand in hand... but that's besides the point. However, find a 2.8mm WA lens near the 10mm mark for around $600.

Simply Ravishing
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 19:35
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/3332825212_4bc3c6f160_b.jpg

Nevermind the shrubs in the frame, I was too lazy to crop them out!

Canonswhitelensesrule
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 20:26
I actually like the shrubs in the frame. They form somewhat of a "natural" frame.

origamione
6th of March 2009 (Fri), 21:33
Sarawak river.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5060.jpg

This lens is very specialized, work best for landscape & you'll need to get used to it before you can capture nice photos.

origamione
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 01:49
The more i use this lens, the more i like it.

This is another shot taken an hour earlier at a beach resort.
http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5085.jpg

Hope i can snap some nice sunset later on.

ride5000
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 06:59
Crap. I forgot about that. Crappy bokeh also?

with such a short FL, GETTING the bokeh isn't terribly easy in the first place.

the shot on the beach that i posted back here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=7419638&postcount=348) demonstrates the max bokeh at 11mm (without resorting to fancy tricks) as it was shot at the MFD and f/2.8.

as far as quality of the bokeh, it's no canon 85 1.2, that's for sure. :)

Sharpstat
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 10:26
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/3332825212_4bc3c6f160_b.jpg

Nevermind the shrubs in the frame, I was too lazy to crop them out!


The shrubs help gives the picture it's character and perspective. It also gives the shot a little more colour.

USMCWayne
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 13:44
"This lens is very specialized, work best for landscape"

I'd probably disagree with both of those comments.

While the 11-16 is indeed a very good landscape lens, what makes it so "special" is the 2.8.

That aperature makes the 11-16 an exceptional low-light option for indoor architecture, as well as an almost classic photojournalism option.

I'm covering a girl's state tournament this weekend and typically have the 11-16 mounted on my second body, around my neck, for those "just in case" moments.

The team I'm covering is playing in the state championship game this evening. They're 25-0 and the team they're playing is 25-1, with their only loss a two point thriller to the 25-0 team last weekend in the Divisional championships.

If "my" team wins, I expect to be in the middle of the floor, with the team, documenting their celebration with my 11-16.

One of these days I may use my 11-16 for a landscape shot or two but, for now, it's getting plenty of photojournalism/sports work

USMCWayne
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 13:48
"Nevermind the shrubs in the frame, I was too lazy to crop them out!"

Ditto the comments on the shrubs. For an UWA, you usually need something in the foreground to demonstrate depth and to help "frame" the landscape. Without them, the photo would not stand out as much as it does.

origamione
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 18:50
Took this one yesterday.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5233.jpg

DonJuanMair
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 19:11
I think that one would have been really nice with less sky and more foreground

origamione
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 19:19
I think that one would have been really nice with less sky and more foreground

Yea, can't agree more, however, the pool ends at the edge, can't stretch any more foreground.
Thanks.

nik.hisham
7th of March 2009 (Sat), 23:40
Wow, Frank. All the photos you've taken over the past few days have been of really nice landscapes and scenery. I'm beginning to wonder if you live on an island paradise or something. Where I live, I don't have anything near as interesting as what you've shot!

origamione
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 00:03
Wow, Frank. All the photos you've taken over the past few days have been of really nice landscapes and scenery. I'm beginning to wonder if you live on an island paradise or something. Where I live, I don't have anything near as interesting as what you've shot!

Hehe...thanks mate, i'm still learning how to shoot with this lens.
Err...technically, you're right about the island, it's the third largest island in the world, Borneo Island, where the head hunter roam at night. LOL!

origamione
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 01:20
A pano shot.

http://www.wired.my/50D/damaipuri_pano.jpg

tunin
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 07:25
This is extra fine.

A pano shot.

http://www.wired.my/50D/damaipuri_pano.jpg

origamione
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 11:29
This is extra fine.

Thanks ;)

Here's couple more.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5222.jpg

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5253.jpg

Tony-S
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 11:50
Bokeh and UWA usually don't go hand in hand...

You should try out the Sigma 20mm f/1.8 on a full-frame camera. ;)

but that's besides the point. However, find a 2.8mm WA lens near the 10mm mark for around $600.

Here (http://sigma4less.com/sigma-10mm-f28-ex-dc-hsm-fisheye-lens-for-canon-digital-cameras.html) you go.

nik.hisham
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 15:12
One from yesterday evening.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3339125938_c3fcfe8ff5_b.jpg

USMCWayne
8th of March 2009 (Sun), 19:25
Still not quite what I was looking for deep in the corner, but it'll have to do until next season as this was taken in the state championship game.

I cropped a bit off both sides to tighten up on the players a little.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/USMCWayne/IMG_2715.jpg
Trailing by three with 1:35 left on the clock in the State B championship game, Kylee Denham and Bobbi Knudsen pressure Fairfield's Megan Anderson into a turnover and a foul. The M-Ettes were unable to convert the free-throws and Fairfield hung on for a 56-47 win.

origamione
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 09:20
One from yesterday evening.


Nice one Nik, like the sky.

origamione
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 09:47
Sunset by the beach.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5206.jpg

Within minutes, the sky changes rapidly.
http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5228.jpg

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5246.jpg

DonJuanMair
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 12:33
origamione what f stop are you using?

heres one i dont think i posted before

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/2913100062_ae450ba570_o.jpg

origamione
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 20:51
origamione what f stop are you using?

heres one i dont think i posted before

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/2913100062_ae450ba570_o.jpg

1st shot - f/2.8
2nd shot - f/22
3rd shot - f/22

Nice car and nice shot btw.:D

nik.hisham
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 20:56
Nice one Nik, like the sky.

Thanks!

DonJuanMair
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 21:22
Try f6.1 for a bit see how u like it

origamione
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 23:22
Try f6.1 for a bit see how u like it

Thanks, will try that the next round.;)

binlerne
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 23:37
Taken at 11mm:
http://jerrin.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=372&g2_serialNumber=2

origamione
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 23:38
Meanwhile, this is shot at f/8.
FL: 11mm

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5321.jpg

John_TX
9th of March 2009 (Mon), 23:42
Meanwhile, this is shot at f/8.
FL: 11mm

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5321.jpg

Nice! I sure hope those buildings were build "curved" as I do NOT get that effect with my 11-16! :p

origamione
10th of March 2009 (Tue), 00:00
Nice! I sure hope those buildings were build "curved" as I do NOT get that effect with my 11-16! :p

Hahaha...yea, it's built curve but not as curve though, FL 11mm does enhanced a little. ;)

John_TX
10th of March 2009 (Tue), 00:05
Hahaha...yea, it's built curve but not as curve though, FL 11mm does enhanced a little. ;)

You should send that photo to the developers of DxO (http://www.dxo.com/us/photo) and tell them the buildings are "straight" in real life (but don't tell them which lens you used)!
I bet they'd have one hell of a time trying to figure out how to correct your "hybrid" fisheye.
The mustache distortion on super-zooms ain't got nothing on this photo! :p

ExpensiveHobby
10th of March 2009 (Tue), 02:12
finally! pictures of cars with this lens...

I noticed that there's a lot more car pictures taken with the other UWAs... I'm not sure why... because of the minimum focus?

DonJuanMair
10th of March 2009 (Tue), 04:15
ohhh i have a few..... this lens is great for everything.......i cannot stress how much i loved renting it!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2913099930_c6a2b850a1.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2912251703_83a230b454_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2912251801_82c903b77b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2913101686_c7b488fa3c.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2912254931_6a3bfdec2f.jpg

i took all those when i just started photography, now i think id get some better shots

ryanvc76
10th of March 2009 (Tue), 08:10
Mine came in the mail today - woo hoo! Now I just need it to stop raining!

origamione
10th of March 2009 (Tue), 10:56
Mine came in the mail today - woo hoo! Now I just need it to stop raining!

Cool, make sure you post photos here. ;)

Another one from the beach.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5115.jpg

ride5000
11th of March 2009 (Wed), 17:34
f/2.8, 0.006 sec (1/180), ISO 100, 16 mm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/3346988170_b00531d815.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken-gilbert/3346988170/)

the distortion (or lack thereof) on the 16mm end is really quite remarkable, i have to say... this shot is SHARP even at 2.8.

Nathan
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 09:30
A little misfocused, but I like the angle

nekrit
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 11:08
Just got mine. Now I have to wait for the weather to turn. :(

USMCWayne
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 15:05
"Now I have to wait for the weather to turn."

Why? Some of the best shots take place in inclement weather. Carry a small portable umbrella or wrap your camera and lens in a baggie with a rubber band around the front of the lens. Go take some pictures.

nik.hisham
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 18:16
A little misfocused, but I like the angle

I really like this. Would you mind sharing what you did in PP?

Thanks.

form
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 18:46
v300 in lightroom!

nightcat
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 18:52
Just got mine. Now I have to wait for the weather to turn. :(

I agree with the other post. This is a great winter & bad weather lens. I've had mine on my camera for the last 4 months and got some great shots. This lens woks very well with a circular polarizer as well.

Nathan
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 19:29
I really like this. Would you mind sharing what you did in PP?

Thanks.

Thanks for the comment. Increased black and fill light. Decrease saturation. Unsharp mask.

nik.hisham
14th of March 2009 (Sat), 04:15
Thanks for the comment. Increased black and fill light. Decrease saturation. Unsharp mask.

Cool. Thanks. I'm gonna try that on some of my pics...

bwell
14th of March 2009 (Sat), 21:44
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3296/3285453796_233be78f69_b.jpg

TSmith8779
15th of March 2009 (Sun), 11:46
Just pulled the trigger to get mine yesterday. Very nice pictures here, and I'm really excited to get mine. Hope it gets here before I leave for Reno at the end of the week. I'd like to try it out up there in the Tahoe area.

origamione
15th of March 2009 (Sun), 23:28
Just pulled the trigger to get mine yesterday. Very nice pictures here, and I'm really excited to get mine. Hope it gets here before I leave for Reno at the end of the week. I'd like to try it out up there in the Tahoe area.

Cool, welcome to the "Toke 11-16 thread". Tahoe is a beautiful place. ;)

Simply Ravishing
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 00:53
Taken outside the Staples Center during the Pac 10 Tournament this past weekend... after the UCLA vs USC game.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3358451481_fa96189fb6_b.jpg

bwell
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 01:23
http://www.flickr.com/photos/abwell/3359105324/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3591/3359105324_ac71b1f513_b.jpg

origamione
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 09:52
http://www.flickr.com/photos/abwell/3359105324/


Stunning shot bwell!

origamione
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 09:59
Really love this lens...
no sharpening required.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5539.jpg

origamione
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 10:45
First try on fake tilt shift.

http://www.wired.my/50D/IMG_5278.jpg

nik.hisham
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 19:07
^^ I like! I'm gonna try this out...

Luddify
16th of March 2009 (Mon), 23:51
Man o man I love this lens. Selection of images from my first test in the field: http://www.pbase.com/luddify/newzealand

_aravena
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 00:02
Last shots of my dog. ex-wife took her. I miss her. The dog...not my wife. :confused:
http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v6/p635620101-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v2/p936253034-4.jpg

ALaS
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 10:12
cute dog. What happened to her if you don't mind?

nik.hisham
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 10:23
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3541/3362366161_bf485fa581_b.jpg

_aravena
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 10:31
cute dog. What happened to her if you don't mind?

Which her?

idrgbdy
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 17:30
i was sold for a couple weeks on the sigma 10-20, but i think i've just switched to a tokina 11-16 fan. i'll be ordering this lens this week! cool it comes with a great warranty and the hood. but which 77mm CP filter should i get? on the b&h website, i see:

-B+W 77 mm Circular Polarizer Multi-Coated (MC) Glass Filter
-B+W 77 mm Circular Polarizer Multi-Coated (MC) Slim Glass Filter

i just do not want all the vignetting and wasn't sure if a reg size filter would do that and i should get the slim one? but then i hear all of this talk about not being able to have a lens cap on the slim filter. any help?

shocksyde
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 19:35
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3647/3339355304_6f6ab63327.jpg

enginyr
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 00:07
OMG I LOVE THIS LENS. Does everything I dreamed it could do. Only tip to you guys is keep your shutter speed faster than you think you need to have it at.

John_TX
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 00:20
OMG I LOVE THIS LENS. Does everything I dreamed it could do. Only tip to you guys is keep your shutter speed faster than you think you need to have it at.

Great photo! What was your lighting setup? I've had some issues correctly exposing wide interior shots like that with just one flash.
I assume you were using at least two?

Oiotoshi
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 05:28
A first try of my tokina, interior of Parma's Cathedral http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3346749867_99a712eb8d_o.jpg

ride5000
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 06:43
Only tip to you guys is keep your shutter speed faster than you think you need to have it at.

i wonder what it is that makes you say that?

i've handheld 1/4s shots @ 11mm with surprisingly good results...

idrgbdy
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 07:39
i was sold for a couple weeks on the sigma 10-20, but i think i've just switched to a tokina 11-16 fan. i'll be ordering this lens this week! cool it comes with a great warranty and the hood. but which 77mm CP filter should i get? on the b&h website, i see:

-B+W 77 mm Circular Polarizer Multi-Coated (MC) Glass Filter
-B+W 77 mm Circular Polarizer Multi-Coated (MC) Slim Glass Filter

i just do not want all the vignetting and wasn't sure if a reg size filter would do that and i should get the slim one? but then i hear all of this talk about not being able to have a lens cap on the slim filter. any help?


bump. :D

origamione
18th of March 2009 (Wed), 09:56
Bullet ship...
Amazing lens, sharpness was set to "0" in DPP, & did some adjustment in photoshop, again, no sharpening required.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3365783348_32ca277ea8_o.jpg