Stupid forum lingo that should just die out already

[TheHoff]

There are terms, lingo, and jargon we see on the forum every day that should just die out already. Mine:

"The Holy Trinity" of lenses... which no one can agree on. Is it the 35/50/85Ls? 35/85/135? Then people add things to the term, like "Holy Trinity of zooms" or "Holy Trinity of f/4 zooms"... ugh.
'Tog... some bastardization shorting of "Photog" which was already an abbreviation for "Photographer." Really, people, we don't pay by the letter, just type it out.


what are yours?

[elysium]

One word comes to mind...

Nikon

One name - Ken Rockwell

[TheHoff]

"Noink" almost made my list of annoying terms, yes.

[cdifoto]

PWN3D (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwn3d).

[elysium]

PWN3D.
That just makes me giggle. I vote to keep that.

[gjl711]

Aw.. come on... It's all good.

But we can shorten Tog... Hmmm Lets see.
Photographer -> Photog -> Tog -> Tg -> " "

See Photographer = nothing. :)

[PeteJaffa]

Another vote for Photog & Noink.

[PeteJaffa]

Oh and WhiBal. I don't really know why I dislike it so much.

[cdifoto]

Oh and WhiBal. I don't really know why I dislike it so much.
Well that one is an actual product, not really lingo. I have one but I don't know where it is. 'Nuff said. :rolleyes:

[PeteJaffa]

Well that one is an actual product, not really lingo. I have one but I don't know where it is. 'Nuff said. :rolleyes:

I know it's a product it just doesn't work with my brain when I say it.

[nicksan]

It's probably up where the sun don't shine, rendering it useless.:lol:

Well that one is an actual product, not really lingo. I have one but I don't know where it is. 'Nuff said. :rolleyes:

[AngryCorgi]

Oh and WhiBal. I don't really know why I dislike it so much.

Who says that? Its just WB from what I've seen.

Oh you are referring to the card. It's a real product, true.

[newbietoslr]

wigma

[LucyRoberts]

wigma
And Bigma!

[TheHoff]

oh yes.. and the worst: magic drainpipe



in fact, saying any piece of equipment has any "magic" at all should be a bannable offense. Justifying an expensive piece of kit that you don't necessarily need because it has "magic" that you can't get from a lesser alternative is... quite lame.

[nicksan]

Dude...I'll show you my magic drainpipe...:lol::cool:

oh yes.. and the worst: magic drainpipe



in fact, saying any piece of equipment has any "magic" at all should be a bannable offense. Justifying an expensive piece of kit that you don't necessarily need because it has "magic" that you can't get from a lesser alternative is... quite lame.

[steved110]

The one that really got me was 'aperature' - but I have got used to it now.

I cannot however get used to people spelling lens as 'lense'

And don't get me started on possessive apostrophes....:evil:

[gjl711]

Dude...I'll show you my magic drainpipe...:lol::cool:
Hmm.. I always thought of mine as a magic Canon. ;)

[nicksan]

Yeah...I hate that.
I never made a spellnig mistake in my life. Bunch of loosers.;)

The one that really got me was 'aperature' - but I have got used to it now.

I cannot however get used to people spelling lens as 'lense'

And don't get me started on possessive apostrophes....:evil:

[20droger]

Sorry, but there are spelling mistakes and there is ignorance.

And there is none so blind as those who will not see.... And none so ignorant as those who will not learn.

Meanwhile, being an amature tog, I'll go out and play with my zoom lense on my Cannon. I want to experiment with different aperatures.

[Jon]

OOH, which zoomie lense - the Wigma, Bigma, or Magic Drainpipe?

[NZDoug]

In NZ, togs are a nick name for your swimmers, or , as they say in most parts of the world, your "bathing suit". For example my togs are Cuban Longboards with sex wax pocket.

[JeffreyG]

oh yes.. and the worst: magic drainpipe



in fact, saying any piece of equipment has any "magic" at all should be a bannable offense. Justifying an expensive piece of kit that you don't necessarily need because it has "magic" that you can't get from a lesser alternative is... quite lame.

They can't do magic? Nuts.


The bigger problem I have with "lense" is that my doggone Websters Third New International Dictionary which weighs even more than a Bigma states that "lense" is an OK alternate spelling of "lens".

I still use 'lens' though.

And my magic lenses all go to 11.

[Bigbitt8706]

what is a sex wax pocket and were can i get one?

[caroleigh]

Not exactly lingo, but I don't understand 'Cannon' and 'Lense'?

[Nick Pro]

Sex wax is a surf board wax

[caroleigh]

Just a little late on the 'lense' I see that was covered :)

[Nortelbert]

I really, really, really hate "pulled the trigger" when someone says they bought some lenses.

[TheHoff]

Number of threads where people "pulled the trigger" in the thread title: 77

:rolleyes:

[gary88]

The only thing that is magic is the big brown truck.

[Nortelbert]

Number of threads where people "pulled the trigger" in the thread title: 77

:rolleyes:

Hmm... seems low.

[eddarr]

Number of threads where people "pulled the trigger" in the thread title: 77 :rolleyes:

You made me think.

Number of threads with "aperature" in the title 55. "Lense" 293. "Cannon" 146. "Brown Truck" 29.

And that's just in the title.

[Nice Glass]

"Duck Shot" - 144

[theflyingkiwi]

Noink or any variation on the spelling. It's nikon people, it's just a brand like every thing else out there. gee using the correct name isn't going to make it a better camera.

The other bug, which I must say doesn't happen here is use the use of txt words. it seems that most people can use the full word. :)

that gets my goat no end.

[hsma]

Nifty fifty or thrifty fifty is just flat out annoying

[argyle]

They can't do magic? Nuts.


The bigger problem I have with "lense" is that my doggone Websters Third New International Dictionary which weighs even more than a Bigma states that "lense" is an OK alternate spelling of "lens".

Yep...'lense' is a synonym for 'lens', so all the gripers need to chill on that one :D

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lense

[FZ1dave]

Glass.

What... you buy a bay window or something?

It's a freakin' lens.

[20droger]

Yep...'lense' is a synonym for 'lens', so all the gripers need to chill on that one :D

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lense
Of course, these are the same people who once approved the use of "cigaret" as an alternative spelling for "cigarette," and were laughed out of the lexicographers' club.

That's one of the reasons I use the Random House Unabridged.

Sorry, but "lense" is not an acceptable alternative for "lens" in the photographic sense. There are NO photographic lens manufacturers who put the word "lense" on their product.

"Lense" is an alternative spelling of "lens" ONLY in a biomedical context, and even there its use is discouraged.

This is similar to the usages where a house can have two TV antennas, but an ant has two antennae. Different things, different usages.

[20droger]

Noink or any variation on the spelling. It's nikon people, it's just a brand like every thing else out there. gee using the correct name isn't going to make it a better camera.
Actually, it's "Nikon," not "nikon." Proper names are always capitalized in English.

Myself, I simply refer to them as "the other camera company." A trick I stole from National Semiconductor, who once offered mainframe computers painted "Other Computer Company Blue."

[garbidz]

...just wondering what circumcision my 77-mm CPL will be on a full crop lense

[20droger]

As for the "Brown Truck," I have no quarrel with that. Especially when it's coming up my driveway.

Driving one, however, is not a good job for anyone named "Charles." Poor Charlie would forever be known as "UPS Chuck"!

[20droger]

...just wondering what circumcision my 77-mm CPL will be on a full crop lense
Not a problem unless it's Jewish, or perhaps Catholic.

[Duncs]

Actually, it's "Nikon," not "nikon." Proper names are always capitalized in English.

Myself, I simply refer to them as "the other camera company." A trick I stole from National Semiconductor, who once offered mainframe computers painted "Other Computer Company Blue."

I believe your full stops and commas should be outside the quotation marks.
:p

[LucyRoberts]

I believe your full stops and commas should be outside the quotation marks.
:p
Awwww! Editorial snap! :p

[20droger]

I believe your full stops and commas should be outside the quotation marks.
:p
I agree, but that is not proper American English usage, and I am an American who writes for a living.

Periods (full stops) and commas go inside the quotes, colons and semicolons go outside the quotes, and question marks and exclamation points go inside the quotes if a part of the quoted material and outside the quotes if not.

There is only one case in American English where periods or commas go outside the quotes, and that is when what is quoted is to be taken as specific characters, not as a word.

Also, in American English, we use double quotes as the basic quote form, with single quotes as internal quotes, alternating accordingly. I believe you Brits do the reverse in formal writing.

Of course, the majority of the posters in these forums don't use and wouldn't recognize proper English, be it American, British, or other dialect. The whole thing is therefore rather moot.

I'm just grateful when they make some attempt to use English at all. When they don't, I simply ignore them, even if I understand what they are asking and know the answer to their questions.

I don't do texting.

[garbidz]

That's all very fine, but did you know that "droger" means "drugs" in Swedish?
And "fart" again is the word for speed. There used to be a transport company called "Nordisk Fart". Once they went international, there was a name change.

As a non-native English speaker I often wonder how badly you treat your beautiful, flexible and expressive language. Maybe it is exactly this mutilation that has made it such?

BTW: Where might be situated the largest english-speaking population in the world?

And encore un PS: "The Other Camera Company" will be Sony in no time....

[zacker]

Aw.. come on... It's all good.

But we can shorten Tog... Hmmm Lets see.
Photographer -> Photog -> Tog -> Tg -> " "

See Photographer = nothing. :)

Ill do ya one better.... Photographer->Tog->Tg->T

lol... another thing i hate is questions about Nikons..this is a CANON forum!!!!! :rolleyes:

[gjl711]

...And "fart" again is the word for speed. ......
Well, it sort of does in my house as well. At least that what happens when I do. Everyone runs from the room pretty fast.

[zacker]

I agree, but that is not proper American English usage, and I am an American who writes for a living.

Periods (full stops) and commas go inside the quotes, colons and semicolons go outside the quotes, and question marks and exclamation points go inside the quotes if a part of the quoted material and outside the quotes if not.

There is only one case in American English where periods or commas go outside the quotes, and that is when what is quoted is to be taken as specific characters, not as a word.

Also, in American English, we use double quotes as the basic quote form, with single quotes as internal quotes, alternating accordingly. I believe you Brits do the reverse in formal writing.

Of course, the majority of the posters in these forums don't use and wouldn't recognize proper English, be it American, British, or other dialect. The whole thing is therefore rather moot.

I'm just grateful when they make some attempt to use English at all. When they don't, I simply ignore them, even if I understand what they are asking and know the answer to their questions.

I don't do texting.


What up wit dis 20D? you goin make us all seem like da foo cause we dont got any fancy education? sorry but some of us dont have a chance ta go to dat, fancy - shmancy educatin school wen we was young.
:lol::lol:

[Flo]

^ Wut he sayd:shock:

[Jon]

As long as they keep their whinging to this thread and don't make rude comments elsewhere about people using the terms they're so upset about, or start naming names, let 'em gripe.

[CyberDyneSystems]

oh yes.. and the worst: magic drainpipe



in fact, saying any piece of equipment has any "magic" at all should be a bannable offense. Justifying an expensive piece of kit that you don't necessarily need because it has "magic" that you can't get from a lesser alternative is... quite lame.

In a land where we are overrun with Fairies, what's wrong with a little mythology to keep things interesting.
We can talk gear and specs all day long and bore each other to tears, but damn it some things are just beyond measurbation.. (what about that term? or Pixel peeping? )
Let life have some mystery,. for Odin's sake, the 200mm f/1.8 IS magic, when I reach for it, I feel just like I'm Thor reaching for Mjolner,.. it's not the biggest weapon on the battle field, but it has Magic powers that puts it ahead of an entire phalanx of 70-200mm zooms.

As for the "Holy Trinity" more mythology, and frankly there should be NO question what lenses this refers to. (35mm, 85mm 135mm L primes )
The term was coined here on POTN and if in it's migration elsewhere to less sensible forums people have lost touch with who the real Gods are, they can turn to our own EF Lens FAQ for guidance and a reminder,. this "bible" contains documentation including the very thread where the term was coined.

I'm not a religious man by any stretch, but I am a spiritual one, and damn it as scientific as my left brain is, when I was in Africa a saw more than just flora and fauna, more than families, species and order,. no, it was more than that, I saw GOD.

So pack up your rulers and focus charts, trash your MTF charts and look at the images instead and if you can;t feel any magic there,. well that's a real shame. I do and that's what keeps me coming back.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Noink or any variation on the spelling. It's nikon people, it's just a brand like every thing else out there. gee using the correct name isn't going to make it a better camera.

The other bug, which I must say doesn't happen here is use the use of txt words. it seems that most people can use the full word. :)

that gets my goat no end.\

NOINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any resistance on this and we will resort to the forums own profane language filter!

It's a CANON forum people!
Noink is the enemy,. it's Evil pure and simple! :lol:

[20droger]

HE has spoken! The dictum has been issued.

[20droger]

That's all very fine, but did you know that "droger" means "drugs" in Swedish?
How about that! Good thing it's not my name, nor my appellation, which is "20droger."
And "fart" again is the word for speed. There used to be a transport company called "Nordisk Fart". Once they went international, there was a name change.
And a good Swedish vacuum-cleaner company once had an ad that said, "Buy Electrolux! It really sucks!" Just goes to show you. What it shows you, I dunno.
As a non-native English speaker I often wonder how badly you treat your beautiful, flexible and expressive language. Maybe it is exactly this mutilation that has made it such?
Not all of us mangle the language. Some of us love it.
BTW: Where might be situated the largest english-speaking population in the world?
That might be in India.
And encore un PS: "The Other Camera Company" will be Sony in no time....
Not to me. Too many gimmicks, not enough professionalism.

[theague]

how about stupid posts that should die out?

[CyberDyneSystems]

how about stupid posts that should die out?

Well said Mr. Monkey Pants :)

[garbidz]

how about stupid posts that should die out?

The fist stupid post to die out in my honest and deep-felt opinion should be the French Post who have been delaying my gratifications so many times sometimes making things "disappear" (a 20D,various software bundles) and other times delaying the delivery demanding "factures réelles" after I've sent them the copies of PayPal receits and my credit card reviews...

So, in my opinion the first Stupid Post to go is La Poste Francaise!
There have been rumors that the Deutsche Post (the guys who got DHL) would buy them and put half of the 120 000 clercks out on the streets...

I feel sorry for the eBay stores who send out their stuff once the payment has been cleared and then the bureaucracy steps in to protect the local sellers who are but no-good lazy francophone-only jerks!

Felt good to say so: JERKS!

20droger=tjugo droger...fiutt i röran o darr i påsan!

No, I am not a native french speaker, either....

[AngryCorgi]

The fist stupid post to die out in my honest and deep-felt opinion should be the French Post who have been delaying my gratifications so many times sometimes making things "disappear" (a 20D,various software bundles) and other times delaying the delivery demanding "factures réelles" after I've sent them the copies of PayPal receits and my credit card reviews...

So, in my opinion the first Stupid Post to go is La Poste Francaise!
There have been rumors that the Deutsche POst (the guys who got DHL) would buy them and put half of the 120 000 clercks out on the streets...

I feel sorry for the eBay stores who send out their stuff once the payment has been cleared and then the bureaucracy steps in to protect the local sellers who are but no-good lazy francophone-only jerks!

Felt good to say so: JERKS!

No, I am not a native french speaker, either....

What the... :confused:

[Discov3ry]

I'm glad I'm a cannon tog I once considered buying noink body and glass Man, I'd be PWN3D! Since the first time I put my hands on a cannon camera and cannon lense I've been a very happy photog This is an expensive hobby though Maybe some start cheap with glass like the nifty fifty or basic tammy But once you pull the trigger on bigger stuff like the magic drainpipe or bigma it gets expensive Who cares though when you see that magic brown truck pulling over it's all good And should I mention the quality aparature and whibal of all cannon gear and lenses? Not really all togs know it PWN3S other brands like noink.
ok thanks bye

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

I'm glad I'm a cannon tog I once considered buying noink body and glass Man, I'd be PWN3D! Since the first time I put my hands on a cannon camera and cannon lense I've been a very happy photog This is an expensive hobby though Maybe some start cheap with glass like the nifty fifty or basic tammy But once you pull the trigger on bigger stuff like the magic drainpipe or bigma it gets expensive Who cares though when you see that magic brown truck pulling over it's all good And should I mention the quality aparature and whibal of all cannon gear and lenses? Not really all togs know it PWN3S other brands like noink.
ok thanks bye

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well said, in time my Son, your quest may end for "The Grail Lens"
and you may achieve divine ascension over even "The Holy Trinity"

271720

[TheHoff]

In a land where we are overrun with Fairies, what's wrong with a little mythology to keep things interesting.

I do have a problem when people give digital items "special powers" as if they are greater than the sum of their electronic parts (mostly in reverence to the 5D these days). I do believe a photo can have "magic" that evokes emotion; that type of magic typically comes courtesy of LIGHT. The magic of light is something we should all have a proper reverence for.

I am occasionally surprised that digital 'togs haven't gone so far as analog audiophiles, questioning what brand of transistors are used inside their cameras or perhaps re-wiring the sensor to the DIGIC, perhaps with an esoteric silver wire from Germany.

"I'm so stoked; I just pulled the trigger and re-cabled my 5D entirely with Shulzenfrank Silver Elite -- pure silver with tungsten/platinum solder -- you should see the magic this thing puts out now! The highlights sparkle and the shadows have an amazing presence"

As for the "Holy Trinity" more mythology, and frankly there should be NO question what lenses this refers to. (35mm, 85mm 135mm L primes )

I didn't mind it at first but the mogrifications into "holy trinity of f/4 zooms" or "holy trinity of cheap primes" have made it into a meaningless connotation when everyone has their own version.

I'm not a religious man by any stretch, but I am a spiritual one, and damn it as scientific as my left brain is, when I was in Africa a saw more than just flora and fauna, more than families, species and order,. no, it was more than that, I saw GOD.

Rock it, man. This sounds like the same GOD that Einstein and Hawking and Dawkins refer to when they speak of the miracle of nature.

[Balliolman]

"PWN3D", what does this mean? :confused:

[Jon]

Original reference has a link. Basically, in the original sense it's hacker/cracker speak for "owned" - if I hacked your computer so I now control it, it's PWN3D by me.

[JeffreyG]

I didn't mind it at first but the mogrifications into "holy trinity of f/4 zooms" or "holy trinity of cheap primes" have made it into a meaningless connotation when everyone has their own version.

.


Holy Trinity of Kit Lenses!

50/1.8
18-55 IS
28-105 f/3.5-4.5

Holy Trinity of Complete Crap!

75-300 4-5.6
35-80 4-5.6
28-105 4-5.6

[theague]

"PWN3D", what does this mean? :confused:

I believe PWNED aka PWN3D began when a gamer tried to talk trash to another gamer and instead of typing OWNED typed PWNED... it has become standard lingo in all games now. lol

[garbidz]

...the next thing we'll read about is "The Selfishe Lense"....

[timnosenzo]

Holy Trinity of Complete Crap!

75-300 4-5.6
35-80 4-5.6
28-105 4-5.6

Ohhhh, nice! The Holy Crap lenses. :D

I pretty much agree with all the above posts.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Rock it, man. This sounds like the same GOD that Einstein and Hawking and Dawkins refer to when they speak of the miracle of nature.

Absolutely,.

[TheHoff]

Holy Trinity of Kit Lenses!
Holy Trinity of Complete Crap!

:D :D :D

[AngryCorgi]

Holy Trinity of Complete Crap!

75-300 4-5.6
35-80 4-5.6
28-105 4-5.6

PWN3D!

LOL

:lol::lol::lol:

[Duncs]

I agree, but that is not proper American English usage, and I am an American who writes for a living.

In that case I appologise :oops:

Who ever said we speak the same language?

[20droger]

Well, you and I certainly don't. Hell, I can't even find someone in my local town who speaks Standard English, much less someone overseas.

I do like most British mysteries, though. They require thought, unlike most American ones. Good show!

[20droger]

20droger=tjugo droger...fiutt i röran o darr i påsan!

¿Que?

Sorry, but my Swedish is limited to knowing who Celsius and Ångström were.

[theflyingkiwi]

What up wit dis 20D? you goin make us all seem like da foo cause we dont got any fancy education? sorry but some of us dont have a chance ta go to dat, fancy - shmancy educatin school wen we was young.
:lol::lol:

now you know he isn't going to read that. :rolleyes:

[Mr. Clean]

hehhehe, magic should definately be a useable term, I know I've used it a time or two since Wednesday :D There's just something magical about a fast Canon prime :D
I really tried to think of a term that bugs me here, but all in all it's a pretty good place. If I had to vote though it would probably be for 'pulled the trigger'. HAH or the word 'poll', you know there's trouble brewing there.

[theflyingkiwi]

\

NOINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any resistance on this and we will resort to the forums own profane language filter!

It's a CANON forum people!
Noink is the enemy,. it's Evil pure and simple! :lol:

you my dear sir are wrong. you can ban me all you want, but I am still going to be right.

You may see a lot of things and you may in fact know a lot of things but one for sure is that Nikon isn't the enemy, the ones we have to fight is Sony. They are big enough and powerful enough to compete when it comes to market share.

[garryknight]

I don't mind people using the term Noink to refer to Nikons, but I would like to point out that Canon cameras don't use ink either. :p

[AngryCorgi]

Holy Trinity of Complete Crap!

75-300 4-5.6
35-80 4-5.6
28-105 4-5.6

Sorry to beat this dead horse, but I just randomly had a memory of reading this post earlier today and started laughing in my head again. This is one of those truly classy posts that I will not soon forget! ;)

[20droger]

I don't mind people using the term Noink to refer to Nikons, but I would like to point out that Canon cameras don't use ink either. :p
But Canon printers do! How many Nikon printers have you seen lately?

[20droger]

you my dear sir are wrong. you can ban me all you want, but I am still going to be right.

You may see a lot of things and you may in fact know a lot of things but one for sure is that Nikon isn't the enemy, the ones we have to fight is Sony. They are big enough and powerful enough to compete when it comes to market share.
Omnipotent they are not! Remember Betamax?

[thekid24]

Mine would be "Noink". Honestly, get a life and call it Nikon. The brand is respectable and I promise, I can take as good of a photo with a Nikon than with a Canon. And Im sure others can too, they just have to get past the name phobia.

And the abbreviation for post processing. PP without the dots:|
Especially when someone says, "Critique my pp." or "Im tired...all I did today was pp."

It takes only a split second to add two dots:D

[20droger]

But maybe they really need someone to analyse their peepee because they've had an overabundance of it all day long....

Of couse, they shouldn't be posting on a photography forum for that, but people DO post on here for the damnedest things.

[thekid24]

Pssh yeah! Heck I have done it, in a chat forum that is frequented by a mod so I guess its ok, and he seems to like my stuff or at the least find it interesting.

Yeah as much pp'in as there is around here, there must be some dehydrated people:D

[Wazza]

"Noink" almost made my list of annoying terms, yes.

Noink or any variation on the spelling. It's nikon people, it's just a brand like every thing else out there. gee using the correct name isn't going to make it a better camera.

The other bug, which I must say doesn't happen here is use the use of txt words. it seems that most people can use the full word. :)

that gets my goat no end.

I've had the term Noink in my profile for at least a couple of years. It was to stop the google links of us Ni kon bashing hidden away from those users. Then someone suggested we just post Nikon, so they do see what great cameras Canon have, and poach them. ;)

http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/85_grail.jpg
There can only by one holy grail.. The 85

[theflyingkiwi]

Omnipotent they are not! Remember Betamax?

and that's going to stop them from trying. Only good can come out of them trying to be bigger than everyone else. we get better products because of it. :)

and they are likely to take market share away from the likes of Canon and Nikon. Who btw are the biggest 2.

will Sony ever become that big, I have no idea. that's for the future to figure out.

[joeseph]

is this a good place to ask how I can tell the shutter count on my 20D? no? thought not...

[weka2000]

HDR :lol:

[thekid24]

how bout I-SO (eye-so)? Not really annoying to me, but just noticeable when I hear it. Even then I dont try to correct them while they speak, I may say it when I speak, maybe theyll pick it up then....if not...bah...no problems:D

[Nortelbert]

Omnipotent they are not! Remember Betamax?

Remember Blu-Ray? They won that one :-)

[FlyingPhotog]

Omnipotent they are not! Remember Betamax?

I do.

It was actually the superior format. One of Sony's few marketing failures.

[20droger]

I'll be one of the first to admit that, in general, Sony makes excellent products. Trinitron™ CRTs, for example, were head and shoulders above the rest.

They are not omnipotent, however. They blew it with Betamax by creating a superior format, granted, but one that did not allow an average movie to fit on one tape. They corrected that near the end, but it was too late.

They didn't make the same mistake with Blu-Ray™, and the superior format won out.

With their cameras, they almost blew it again with their Memory-Stick™ cards. But their cameras were just so much better than the competition, at the time, that they managed to squeek through. That battle is not over, however, and they could still lose.

With their DSLRs, I think they blew it with in-camera IS. Granted, that will appeal to many, if not most, of the vacation shooters, but in-camera IS is definitely not the choice of professionals. They may kill or severely wound the Canon and Nikon P&S markets, but I doubt they will make strong inroads into the DSLR market, except at the very lowest end.

Besides which, their lenses don't even come close to top Canon or Nikkor lenses in IQ.

Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

Oh, yes. Speaking of memory cards....

I think Canon should drop CF cards and switch to SD cards. Why? Well, one reason might be that laptops these days typically have integral 5-way card readers, which do not include CF cards. This makes CF cards much less convenient to download in the field.

Another reason is that the interconnect for SD cards is more robust than that for CF cards. Nothing can ruin your day like breaking or bending a pin out in the field, especially in the middle of a commercial shoot.

Why switch to SD cards (instead of some other format, that is)? Because they are (currently, at least) the most common format out there, and are of a convenient size. Memory-Stick™ is a Sony thing, and the xD and mini-SD cards are just too damned small for those of us with big hunking hands to manipulate easily, especially in cold weather when my old-man fingers get stiff.

Besides, Canon already uses SD cards in the 1Ds- and 1D-series cameras. There, they should have two SD slots! Keep the two-card concept! (Ya gotta get sumthin for that much money!)

Again, just my opinion.

[Travisj]

Way off topic, should be locked.....:evil:..:p

[nicksan]

Do Nikon people refer to Canon cameras as Conans?

I don't mind people using the term Noink to refer to Nikons, but I would like to point out that Canon cameras don't use ink either. :p

[Jon]

Remember Blu-Ray? They won that one :-)No, they just haven't lost it yet. It's still got to beat conventional DVD in the marketplace . . .

[CyberDyneSystems]

Do Nikon people refer to Canon cameras as Conans?

Yes of course, because to Noinks we are all hairy barbarians..

Any of you ever heard the term "when in Rome, do as the Romans would do" ?

Among other things it means when we travel we should adjust to the ways of the places we visit, as opposed to trying to impose our own POV on all the native around us. It means we should not only be accepting of there customs, but the "do " part means we should engage in them (if appropriate )

One of lifes lessons..
Welcome to Rome,


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[20droger]

Why, hail yes!

[LucyRoberts]

Why, hail yes!
What he said!

;)

Hail to the King Baby!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/powerballadman/boomstick1.gif

[20droger]

No, they just haven't lost it yet. It's still got to beat conventional DVD in the marketplace . . .
I think it will, Jon. There are enough people out there who feel they MUST have an HD picture, lest the world as we know it come to an end.

As the commercial says: "Think of your friends! This game isn't even in HD!"

My "friends" can go buy their own HD, thank you! That way I'll not only save on the purchase of HD equipment, I'll save even more by not having to purchase beer and snacks for those freeloaders!

[FlyingPhotog]

...

They are not omnipotent, however. They blew it with Betamax by creating a superior format, granted, but one that did not allow an average movie to fit on one tape. They corrected that near the end, but it was too late.

Believe it or not, Sony sold many, many Betamax machines to radio stations near the onset of radio station automation.

They made great 60-90 minute "cart" machines that could be cued, rolled, paused and/or stopped by computer. A rackful of these could hold your programming for a couple of entire shifts.

They did take a bath on Betamax but not as big a bath as you might think. Also, BetaMAX begat BetaCAM which has been the dominant professional videotape format for a very long time. Sony flat out OWNS the broadcast industry.

[garbidz]

Sony has a lot of experience in prosumer electronics and gaming.
I see a Playstation camera coming. WiFi, Bluetooth, 3D-sound with the option of buying all the stuff you ever dreamed off with PayPal and completely skipping the boring and disappointing part of taking photos...going out and coming back with your catch.
Instead, you can capture faultless stuff from the Net and (to a price) get to present it as youur own.

That'll be heaven: Just buying and buying and talking pixels!

[Mike-DT6]

Also, in American English, we use double quotes as the basic quote form, with single quotes as internal quotes, alternating accordingly. I believe you Brits do the reverse in formal writing.


Yes, that's right. You lot also put your quotation marks on the wrong side of commas and full stops, but seeing as you also drive on the wrong side of the road I will make no further comment.

Considering that our preferred use is for single quotation marks over double, from reading newspapers over here you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise.

Mike

:-)

[neil_r]

Awesome apparently in some cases it must now mean mediocre (especially in the case of female self portraits in the G&N forum)

[Mum2J&M]

Yes, that's right. You lot also put your quotation marks on the wrong side of commas and full stops, but seeing as you also drive on the wrong side of the road I will make no further comment.

Considering that our preferred use is for single quotation marks over double, from reading newspapers over here you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise.

Mike

:-)

I hate these Brit vs American arguments. There are people who make grammatical errors on both sides of the pond (God, I hate that expression). I'm an American married to a Brit. He says and eats things that seem odd to me and I say and eat things that seem odd to him. I was moving to London when I met him and he says he'd never go back, so here we are. Tons of Brits over here and tons of Americans over there. Variety is the spice of life. Over-generalizations don't work in anyone's favor.

[Mike-DT6]

It's not a Britain versus America argument. It's a Mike versus Roger taunt, posted in the spirit of our previous communications. ;-)

Mike

[txduggan]

What fancy, high-falootin' school y'all talkin' about? It's basic grammar that we all should have learned in primary grades.

Which I failed miserably :D

Tom D

[the_incubus]

I hate these Brit vs American arguments. There are people who make grammatical errors on both sides of the pond (God, I hate that expression). I'm an American married to a Brit. He says and eats things that seem odd to me and I say and eat things that seem odd to him. I was moving to London when I met him and he says he'd never go back, so here we are. Tons of Brits over here and tons of Americans over there. Variety is the spice of life. Over-generalizations don't work in anyone's favor.

your being way to sensitive. It was clearly a friendly jab.

And i have to say it is Herbs not Erbs. They got that on us. There is a damn H in front of it.

[Nortelbert]

Pixel pusher

[Nortelbert]

Pixel peeper

[Nortelbert]

Measurebator

[Nortelbert]

Not lingo, but a question, but it's still annoying:

"Is this lens soft?"

[hbdragon88]

Sony has a lot of experience in prosumer electronics and gaming.
I see a Playstation camera coming. WiFi, Bluetooth, 3D-sound with the option of buying all the stuff you ever dreamed off with PayPal and completely skipping the boring and disappointing part of taking photos...going out and coming back with your catch.
Instead, you can capture faultless stuff from the Net and (to a price) get to present it as youur own.

That'll be heaven: Just buying and buying and talking pixels!

They already came out with the PlayStation EyeToy camera, an add-on accessory.

[garryknight]

Over-generalizations don't work in anyone's favor.

Isn't that a bit of an over-generalization? ;)

[garbidz]

They already came out with the PlayStation EyeToy camera, an add-on accessory.


I just wonder if it is sharp...

[Mathiau]

PWN3D (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwn3d).



now it is QWNED! one letter above PWNED!


beside that is for gamers mainly :) OMFG! a gamers prayer!

As for spelling, dont forget, not everyone's first language is english, and not everyone likes to use FireFox (which has more then enough spelling mistakes), some people dont care about how their language is on a forum, personally i could care less if i make a mistakes, if i catch it i will fix it, otherwise life goes on.

[20droger]

now it is QWNED! one letter above PWNED!


beside that is for gamers mainly :) OMFG! a gamers prayer!

As for spelling, dont forget, not everyone's first language is english, and not everyone likes to use FireFox (which has more then enough spelling mistakes), some people dont care about how their language is on a forum, personally i could care less if i make a mistakes, if i catch it i will fix it, otherwise life goes on.
Obviously!

[20droger]

I hate these Brit vs American arguments. There are people who make grammatical errors on both sides of the pond (God, I hate that expression). I'm an American married to a Brit. He says and eats things that seem odd to me and I say and eat things that seem odd to him. I was moving to London when I met him and he says he'd never go back, so here we are. Tons of Brits over here and tons of Americans over there. Variety is the spice of life. Over-generalizations don't work in anyone's favor.
Mike is correct! It's not a Brit vs. Yank argument.

Besides, Mum, being married to a Brit you should appreciate such things.

As for Mike, what can I say.... He admits to having the DTs. Six times yet!

I only admit to hunting with a 20D.

[greg20d]

In a land where we are overrun with Fairies, what's wrong with a little mythology to keep things interesting.
We can talk gear and specs all day long and bore each other to tears, but damn it some things are just beyond measurbation.. (what about that term? or Pixel peeping? )
Let life have some mystery,. for Odin's sake, the 200mm f/1.8 IS magic, when I reach for it, I feel just like I'm Thor reaching for Mjolner,.. it's not the biggest weapon on the battle field, but it has Magic powers that puts it ahead of an entire phalanx of 70-200mm zooms.

As for the "Holy Trinity" more mythology, and frankly there should be NO question what lenses this refers to. (35mm, 85mm 135mm L primes )
The term was coined here on POTN and if in it's migration elsewhere to less sensible forums people have lost touch with who the real Gods are, they can turn to our own EF Lens FAQ for guidance and a reminder,. this "bible" contains documentation including the very thread where the term was coined.

I'm not a religious man by any stretch, but I am a spiritual one, and damn it as scientific as my left brain is, when I was in Africa a saw more than just flora and fauna, more than families, species and order,. no, it was more than that, I saw GOD.

So pack up your rulers and focus charts, trash your MTF charts and look at the images instead and if you can;t feel any magic there,. well that's a real shame. I do and that's what keeps me coming back.

Amen brother

[runninmann]

I subscribed to this thread and never looked back!

[Tandem]

"It's not the camera, it's the photographer." Like, you know, all a great photographer has to do is look at a scene and perfect prints come shooting out his wazoo. As if!!

[Stocky]

"I read this blog the other day, and it says the world is going to end" Ok, not the world, its usually just the photography industry that is about to disappear, but you get the idea.
I greatly prefer that one over the "if you give your mom pictures for free then all of the professional photographers will starve to death" threads though.

[20droger]

Only if he has a hi-res digital wazoo.

[zacker]

\

NOINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any resistance on this and we will resort to the forums own profane language filter!

It's a CANON forum people!
Noink is the enemy,. it's Evil pure and simple! :lol:


AHHHH HAAAAA.... so can we start dumping all the "Im thinking of switching cause Nikon D3 is awesome!" and "I just got a D40 and love it.." posts?? ...... :lol:

[slimninj4]

QWNED. I just saw that. I think that is super funny. Misspellings do not get my worked up. This is an international community where English (or American) spelling is second or third language.

Hell talking to my wife she will say stuff like, "wow that is a bomb". She sounds like a NOT joke from Borat.

[Lars Finkelstein]

You made me think.

Number of threads with "aperature" in the title 55. "Lense" 293. "Cannon" 146. "Brown Truck" 29.

And that's just in the title.

lol you made me laugh

[Mike-DT6]

That's funny :lol:

Out of curiosity I did the same search for the word 'nifty' and my computer blew up!

Seriously, that returned 299 results, which beats all the others for annoyance level.

Mike

:-D

[garryknight]

I've just remembered one that gets used on just about all forums, not just photography ones. It's using "w/" for "with". It tends to get used only once in a post so it saves typing a whole two letters at the expense of hunting (unless you touch type) for the "/" key. I don't know where it came from, but I know where I'd like it to go... :p

[timnosenzo]

I really, really, really hate "pulled the trigger" when someone says they bought some lenses.

agree 110% http://www.dgrin.com/images/smilies/nod.gif

[Stocky]

how about IMO or IMHO.
If YOU are posting it then I sure as hell know its not MY opinion you are writing.
Just spit it out already!

[elysium]

Not lingo, but a question, but it's still annoying:

"Is this lens soft?"
Followed by 30 100% crops which are tack sharp beyond doubt but the OP will still insister there is something wrong.

[elysium]

Number of threads where people had "Nikon" in the thread title: 283

[timnosenzo]

how about IMO or IMHO.
If YOU are posting it then I sure as hell know its not MY opinion you are writing.
Just spit it out already!

Well with so many people posting opinions stated as facts, its nice to no which people admit that what they are posting IS their opinion. ;)

[AngryCorgi]

The ubiquity of "pulled the trigger" is like Randy Jackson constantly using the "you could sing the phone book" line every other damn week on American Idol. He did this again last night and it made me want to put a sharp object through his left eye!

[AngryCorgi]

The thing I hate the most isn't really a phrase, but rather a comparison. I keep seeing silly decision making moves using polls that are nuts, like "Poll: 85L or 28-135 IS?".

Maybe that is a little severe, but I see similar things all the time, and the comparisons, both in price and use are frankly irritating to see. I hope some people that list these polls really do so as a joke, because otherwise....

[tsw910]

the worst for me is the word " Minty " to describe something that is MINT .... when i see that .. it drives me up a wall .. why spend the extra fraction of your life to type out an extra letter ? or maybe next time i may just use spearMINT ...

MINT will do ppl !

[TheHoff]

Thank goodness this thread is back on track with people ranting about minutiae!

[nicksan]

So can we get a list of deplorable forum lingo that should be banned?

Anyone willing to pull the trigger on that one? Conan users, Noink users, Pantex, Snoy...doesn't matter. It will be very useful IMHO.

[Jon]

So can we get a list of deplorable forum lingo that should be banned?

Anyone willing to pull the trigger on that one? Conan users, Noink users, Pantex, Snoy...doesn't matter. It will be very useful IMHO.
Yep. It'll let us know exactly how to push whose buttons!

[runninmann]

agree 110% http://www.dgrin.com/images/smilies/nod.gifThis one irks me, especially when athletes talk about it. How can you give more than 100%?:);)

[CyberDyneSystems]

how about IMO or IMHO.
If YOU are posting it then I sure as hell know its not MY opinion you are writing.
Just spit it out already!

That's pretty funny! I tried to avoid this one, and did so for many many years,
I finally caved ands started using it just this last two years or so.

[weka2000]

This one irks me, especially when athletes talk about it. How can you give more than 100%?:);)
Steriods :rolleyes:

[neil_r]

Gripped xxD

[runninmann]

Steriods :rolleyes:Ah, a code phrase for the 'roid rage crowd.

[condyk]

Awesome apparently in some cases it must now mean mediocre (especially in the case of female self portraits in the G&N forum)

Yah man, that is funny just because I know it's true.

the worst for me is the word " Minty " to describe something that is MINT .... when i see that .. it drives me up a wall .. why spend the extra fraction of your life to type out an extra letter ? or maybe next time i may just use spearMINT ... MINT will do ppl !

Mint means mint. Minty means marginally sub-mint. I think the distinction is important.

Personally, IMHO, there are no terms that annoy me generically. It is more when certain specific people use them :D

[runninmann]

Yah man, that is funny just because I know it's true.



Mint means mint. Minty means marginally sub-mint. I think the distinction is important.

Personally, IMHO, there are no terms that annoy me generically. It is more when certain specific people use them :DAWESOME!!!!

[Stocky]

just my $.02

[timnosenzo]

+1

Even POTN thinks its stupid because its too short to be an actual message. ;)

[Mike-DT6]

What he said.

:lol:

[gjl711]

just my $.02
It should "just my three cents" Inflation ya know.

[AngryCorgi]

Gripped xxD

This one has been irritating me too. I don't know why, but this one ranks right up there with the previously mentioned "pulled the trigger". :p