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rodbunn
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 11:18
I shoot with my 10D a lot! Photography in my living.
What I would like Canon to do that would help me out considerably is;

No matter what I use for the "White Ballance"; Auto, Custom, etc.
I want to see on the display (in the "Info") for a shot the "K" value
the camera used, It doesn't help me AT ALL to see a "AWB" or a little
icon telling me that I used a custom white ballance, etc. I want to
know what the camera used??? It probably is in some chip in there
somewhere. Now I know, I'm asking for a "Kelvin Meter" (and those
are expensive themselves), but what I'm saying is "IF" Canon has that
value in there somewhere, LET ME KNOW PLEASE !!!

Do the more expensive Canon's show this??? I'd like to know if N---n does
if anyone can answer that.....

Anyone else feel the same, or are you satisfied with an icon for an answer
to "what was the white ballance used" ???

Oh yes, the 10D does tell you the K value WHEN YOU PICK IT YOURSELF...

Thanks, Rod

MarkHaldane
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 11:23
You can tell what Kelvin was used if you shoot RAW. Look at the files in Canon DPP.

rodbunn
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 11:27
I just tested that and NO all you see in the display is what the camera
has set in the "Menu" option for Color Temp... I shot with a "custom"
white ballance and changed the color temp and that number is what
I see on the display NOT what I'm shooting at...

Wait, now I did it again and I get the little "Icon" for custom white ballance"
and I'm shooting RAW... I see, I didn't have a pic up in the display so when
I hit Info, I got the settings for the camera.

The whole point is I want to see it in the Camera so I can set the K to what
I want (from a custom white ballance) once I know the value (while I'm shooting).


Rod

alan sh
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 12:06
Not sure this helps you but the 20D will show the Kelvin used in the depths of the exif data. If you can send me a file or two (small jpeg is OK), I can see if the 10D does the same.

Alan

rodbunn
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 13:57
Maybe I should tell you the procedure I use and someone can tell me
an easier way???

I show up at a location to shoot say a wedding. There will be shots
indoors in certain lighting, and shots outdoors in different lighting.
I use a white card and a card I made that is 158.32.100 (rgb) (Light Blue).
I shoot the white card indoors and the blue card indoors. I have them on
my camera and I can choose the one I want for custom white ballance before
I shoot. I can switch back and forth between the custom white ballances
by choosing the pic I want as "white".

Here is where I was thinking that if the camera would just tell me the
"K" value for my white card and my blue card IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER
and FASTER for me to just set the "K" value back and forth while shooting.....

For those of you who are interested, the light blue card I made gives me
"warmer" skin tones and anything else close to skin color.

Thanks, Rod

alan sh
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 13:59
I assume you can set a "K" value with your 10D (I know the 20D can do this). Assuming that, send me the pictures of the blue and white card and I will see if I can see what the 'K' values are.

I know they may be different each time you shoot, but if this works, maybe they won't be so different that it matters.

Alan

rodbunn
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 14:15
Thanks, Maybe it will be good enough to know just the "difference"
in "k" value???

Rod

Pics are at:
http://www.xposeu.com/samples/bluecard.jpg

http://www.xposeu.com/samples/whitecard.jpg

These were under certain conditions but I'm curious to know
the difference....

alan sh
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 14:46
I dodn't know what you did to those pictures but there is no exif data in them. So, can I have the originals ?

RichardtheSane
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 14:59
What software do you use on the RAW files?

Capture one gives the K value on the 10D

rodbunn
16th of December 2004 (Thu), 15:21
Ok, I can get the K values at home but I want them WHEN I'M SHOOTING.
Every place is different lighting and I would like to see the K's realtime.

Thanks everyone, Rod