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loebas
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 15:32
Have been busy learning everything on photography. As I'm still learning I think it is time to buy some lenses for my D300

I like to take photo's from streetscenes, marketplaces, people, landscape and wildlife (deer, fox)

After reading all the critics with regard to lensens (Never thought this would be a special world) I decided to go for the following lenses:

Canon 50 1.8 (for low light, portrait, etc)
Tamron 28-75 (as walk around lens, landscape )
Canon 70-200 f4.0 (for wildlife, portraits, etc)

What do you think of my ideas and is there someone with the same lens outfit and can you tell me your experiences.

DocFrankenstein
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 15:38
Congrats on doing your recearch. Excellent choices.

tim
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 16:20
Sounds like a good choice of lenses to me.

wolf
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 16:33
Good choice of lenses. The 70-200 may be short though for wildlife unless you can sneak up on your prey real quietly.

gramps
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 16:38
I agree that the 70 -200 might be on the short side. You may want to consider throwing in a 1.4 extender or one step further.................the 100 -400!!!!!

RbnDave
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 16:42
All good lenses. I have to agree with wolf about the 70-200. It is too short for wildlife except for tame animals. I did the same thing when I started buying lenses. I got a Sigma 70-200 for portraits and wildlife. Soon I found out that 70-200 was too short for wildlife. Unfortunatly you will have to fork out huge dollars to get a good wildlife lens. There are no cheap ways to get to 400mm. You will love that 70-200 anyhow. I still use my Sigma 70-200 even though I have a Canon 100-400. I guess I did get a few wildlife photos with my 70-200. I used to live near a herd of tame deer. Also I got some pictures of tame sea otters and tame seagulls.

Mchu86
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 16:57
I am in the same situation as you and believe it or not, I have the same exact choices as you! :)

DocFrankenstein
18th of December 2004 (Sat), 17:07
Yes... I also find myself pushing you towards sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX

Very good lens for the price. And you can get a converter and still have f/4 at 280mm

Good luck. It takes lots of thinking, experimentation, money and research to get the system you want. :)

Olegis
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 00:52
It takes lots of thinking, experimentation, money and research to get the system you want. :)

You can never get the system you want, it always will be something that you will want to add to it :-)

loebas, those are wonderful lenses. Go for them !

DocFrankenstein
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 01:09
Nah... sooner or later you'll specialize and you'll get the equipment that gets the job done.

That's unless the equipment you have is more important than the images you make. :)

Olegis
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 01:14
That's unless the equipment you have is more important than the images you make. :)

It always is, isn't it ? :rolleyes:

loebas
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 02:35
I am in the same situation as you and believe it or not, I have the same exact choices as you! :)

Good to hear that I'm not the only one.
For what purpose are you going to use the 70-200 f4.0 ?

DocFrankenstein
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 09:09
It always is, isn't it ? :rolleyes:
:head down in shame:

mr.photoguy
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 10:05
for me my ideal set up will be
18 - 55 for wide angle, (till I decide to upgrade, if I do 17-40)
50mm 1.8 low light fast shooting
Tamron 28-75 for mid range.. odd subjects
Tamron 180 macro -- for macro work
70-200 f4 (A posibility) need a good big zoom.

I see nothing wrong with your set up btw.

DocFrankenstein
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 10:06
Uh-huh...

What about wide angle?

mr.photoguy
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 10:42
Uh-huh...

What about wide angle?
he has a 18-55

Cadwell
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 10:46
I have the Tamron 28-75mm and the Canon 70-200f/4L. They are both excellent lenses. Good choices.

I've borrowed a friends 50mm f/1.8 and whilst it's a interesting little thing to use, I can't really see me getting any use from one.

mr.photoguy
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 10:49
Is the 28-75 your wides lens.?

right now I have a 28-80 with 28 being the widest side ... It's the widest lens I have right now. I can't stand it because it kills my landscapes. I can't wait for my 18-55 to come in.

18 should be good enough to get me the wide angles that I need.

Cadwell
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 10:51
Is the 28-75 your wides lens.?

If that question was addressed to me, then no. I have Canon EF 17-40 f/4L for the wider stuff. :-)

Mchu86
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 13:02
Good to hear that I'm not the only one.
For what purpose are you going to use the 70-200 f4.0 ?

For me, it's the simple purpose of having a longer zoom. We've all been in that situation where you wish you had a longer zoom...and boy, have I had that :)

mr.photoguy
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 13:50
It's funny cause when I used to shoot film, and I had a 70-210, I would constantly have my 1.4x extender on the damn thing ... 210mm was just never enough .

DocFrankenstein
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 14:39
Is the 28-75 your wides lens.?

right now I have a 28-80 with 28 being the widest side ... It's the widest lens I have right now. I can't stand it because it kills my landscapes. I can't wait for my 18-55 to come in.

18 should be good enough to get me the wide angles that I need.
It only translates to 28 mm on the full frame sensor.

mr.photoguy
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 15:12
It only translates to 28 mm on the full frame sensor.
I honestly don't believe this whole 1.6x magnification stuff. I do however feel there is a 1.6x crop. So an 18 on a 20D will just show less of the field than a 18 on a 35mm.

Reminisce
19th of December 2004 (Sun), 17:03
I have the above setup, minus the 70-200, and the 18-55 still gets a bit of use when I need landscape. 18mm is just so much better than 28mm on a 1.6x body. However, the 28-75 is now on my camera full time :).

Jon
20th of December 2004 (Mon), 11:52
I honestly don't believe this whole 1.6x magnification stuff. I do however feel there is a 1.6x crop. So an 18 on a 20D will just show less of the field than a 18 on a 35mm.
And that "less of the field" just happens to correspond to the field of view of a 28 mm lens on a full-frame 35 mm. See also the several zillion posts on the cra^hop factor referenced here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=45388)

hank1105
21st of December 2004 (Tue), 09:46
Funny you should mention that setup. I am looking at getting the Tamron and the Canon 50mm. Also add the 1.4x teleconverter for my 70-200 f/4. The research you have done makes me feel better that I am also heading in the right direction.

Hank