LOSS OF IMAGES ON D60

[Burnett]

On two occasions now recently my D60 seems to have corrupted a full 256Mb card of images.
It seems to reach full capacity and then zaps the card of its information
The camera is unable to locate the images, nor the card reader
The computer will indicate that the card has occupied space of
+- 250Mb but cannot be located.
A retrieval expert tried but failed on my first loss
The second, I just re formated the card ready for the next shoot
Has anybody had a similar problem ?

[Sheila]

Burnett wrote:
On two occasions now recently my D60 seems to have corrupted a full 256Mb card of images.
It seems to reach full capacity and then zaps the card of its information
The camera is unable to locate the images, nor the card reader
The computer will indicate that the card has occupied space of
+- 250Mb but cannot be located.
A retrieval expert tried but failed on my first loss
The second, I just re formated the card ready for the next shoot
Has anybody had a similar problem ?

I have yet to have a problem with this with my D60 and have yet to feel the need to reformat the CF card in any event. It could be the card. I use Ridata cards.

Cheers
Sheila

[mrbobco]

i agree sheila...

i have ridata cards and haven't had a problem with 'em...they come highly recommended from me...

now if i could only take better pictures to PUT on the card : )

but...for burnett...are you sure that the access light wasn't flashing when you removed the card...or that you didn't somehow turn off the d-60 while it was writing? were you writing in raw/continuous mode or jpeg mode? just wondering...as with sheila...i have yet to see the problem myself (knock on wood i know : )

i've almost been caught by that "writing to card" trap...we forget that it can take a tiny bit longer for the D-60 to actually get those images to the card...

bob

[Burnett]

Thanks Shiela

Most of the literature suggests reformatting in camera on a regular basis
It is a scary problem when you get to the end of the card and see the images get zapped before your eyes.

[Burnett]

Hello Bob

I have been using Sandisk cards with no problem until the last couple of weeks

Shooting in J Peg

I did not remove the card or turn the camera off in this instance which is a worry

Thanks for your reply.

B

[Jerry White]

>>I have been using Sandisk cards with no problem until the last couple of weeks

All the more reason I'm glad I cancelled my CF card order (Sandisk 512mb -B&H $249) and reordered two Ridata 256mb cards for $91.50 ea. (including shipping) from MyPCMax. That's a savings of about $60 and from what I hear, the Ridata cards are best.

I was going to get the Ridata 512mb which was on sale for $188 but the 256mb was on sale for $87 plus shipping. So, I get two of those for $14 less than the 512mb and now if one dies, I still have one to work with till I can get a replacement. My momma always taught me to not put all my memory in one basket...or something like that

Jerry

[torun2]

While shooting a local HS sports team last month, I had this exact situation take place. D60/512 Ridata card. I got previews just like always and I noticed that the # of avaliable shots would decrement just like always but when I got to the pc later that evening, the nightmare began! The card indicated that it was full....but full of alot of nothing. I ran a rescue prog, but only got 14 images of a tennis match that I shot about 10 cycles previous to that day. I have been formatting my cards before each use since then, and have had no other such problems....but this is always in the back of my mind, especially during special events that I don't have a chance to re-take. To this day I don't have a clue what went wrong or how to prevent it again, other than just formatting before every use.

[Burnett]

Thanks for your reply Torun2

Well thats interesting..... I am not going crazy after all.
When it happened the first time I had an expert try to access the card to slvage my images.
he rang back and said I can save some for you With some releif I said thats great What do they look like
When he described them, guess what ? they were images from a previous shoot in a previous week. The card had been formatted several times in between.
What the hell is happening ?
Wedding photographers especially should be careful !!!
They are gone in a flash. (Ha Thats not so funny !!!)
Canon "know nothing" they say in Oz

Burnett

[henkbos]

I always format the card IN THE CAMERA before using it. It's a good habit (I hope) and it might prevent problems. To reduce the risks with cards I only use 256Kb cards. Shoot in RAW and routinely check the red light. Better safe than sorry!

[Mike Medici]

Get the camera to Canon, and call to let them know about the problem. So they begin to realize customers are not happing with the magic act the D60 performs!

Right now Canon has seen the jumping/missing thumbnail/ non write raw issue but have no fix !

Canon is trying to find me a replacement camera which works!

However they may have to refund everyone's money, since they cannot honor their warranty, I.E. fix the problem or replace it with a refurbished camera !



Mike

[Burnett]

Henkbos


And cross everything it seems !!!!

Burnett

[Burnett]

Thanks Mike

I am trying to do that now.
Its a B...... dilemma thats for sure

The new model Kodak digi and a complete lens change after 25 years with Canon my be an option !!


Regards


Burnett

[Morden]

Hello guys and gals!
This is my first post here (yet).

I hope that this problem (D60 deleting image files) isn't a serious one; I currently have a D60 on order. I hope that I have not made a (VERY expensive) mistake!

Neil D.

[torun2]

I would not worry about making an "expensive mistake". Have you looked at the price of a new D60 on Ebay lately? I bought mine back in April and could have made an extra $700.00 had I bought a second one, then turned around and sold it. Just took a look at Ebay and a new D60 kit is selling for about $200 more than what the big stores are selling them for. If you can't live with the thought of one day, losing a cf card's worth of pictures, sell it and go with something else. Nothing negative intended in my reply, just food for thought.

[Morden]

Thanks for that reply. I am actually quite sure that I will be extremely pleased with my new (first) dSLR body. I'm just prone to the occasional panic attack when spending thousands of pounds (on anything)!

Neil D.

[Cardinal]

I also ran into a similar issue during a wedding reception. I used the D60 for table shots and attempted to download after the last table. When downloading, I got the following error "unable to continue due to catastrophic error." After catching my breath, I turned off the camera and removed the 256Sandisk. I rebooted the laptop, reinserted the card and restarted the camera. I was able to breath calmly when the images started coming down. In retrospect, I could have retaken the table shots with an excuse (drunk people are pretty gullible), but I still don't think I can use my D60 for ceremony or important stuff.

[nuckphoto]

Just bought my D60 and just found this board. You folks are scaring the Hell out of me with this thread.

The plan was to eventually incorporate the D60 into my wedding photography. Now, I don't know how long it will take to do it.

[Morden]

Try to relax, 'nuckphoto'. I too am concerned by this apparent problem, and I yet await delivery of my own D60, but I am sure that this problem can be avoidded (until it is fixed).

Does it only affect RAW writes? Or only JPEG writes?
(That's a question for all readers, by the way.)

I am still looking forward to receiving my D60.

Neil D.

[torun2]

As to my particular situation, this disappearing act happened in JPEG writes. The Raw issue scares me right now, so I'll live with JPEG fine. When this camera works as designed, I couldn't be happier, but it's rather sad that Canon has yet to resolve these couple of widespread problems.

[Longwatcher]

I have not had this problem yet, but based on what I am reading, I suspect that my method of operation may be reducing the chances of a loss. I use two 256meg CF cards (1 memorex, 1 lexor) and a 340MB IBM Microdrive (the one I keep in the camera normally). I take a batch of pictures and then transfer the card onto a Delkin Picture Pad, formating the card to clear it off, while I use another card to keep shooting. The only problem I have had to date regarding loss of images is I have had two images partial write (red on top, full color bottom (or other way around, I can't remember) )and about half the time it will say I have 1 shot left and won't write it to the card, more likely to occur in RAW then JPeg I noticed. Since Film was always random on the last shot, this is no big deal to me.
Just to be sure though, on a recent photo shoot, I downloaded one of my cards, but kept it until I could transfer the images into the computer, just in case.

[jmamer]

I've shot about 700 frames on my D60, almost all in RAW format and have not had any problems. I always download with the usb cable and I never let the card get
completely full. I only shoot in single frame mode and I watch the drive light carefully before changing camera modes. I delet downloaded frames in the camera. I also try to be careful to turn the camera off (or at least turn the lens off of autofocus) when changing lenses.

The 1gn microdrive has never been reformatted (it has the factory format on it) and was used for about 2500 + frames in my G1.

So far, not jumping thumbnails, no lost frames, and no garbled downloads. Knock wood! My apparent good fortune may be entirly due to the fact that I haven't taken many frames yet.

j.

[gsrossano]

I have shot about 50,000 frames on a D30 and 40,000 frames on a D60 (using 256MB cards). The only time I have lost frames is when I have opened the door while the bodies were still writing to the card. Maybe just lucky for me so far, but the only effect this had was to corrupt the root directory, with most of the images still retrievable by deleting the corrupt directory names and copying the rest normally. I suppose a card could be so corrupted the directory would be totaly destroyed but the allocation table still present and indicating the card as full.

[EugeneK]

One problem could be a bug in the firmware that the last picture taken at the end of the CF overwrites the begining of the the data - the FAT / directory listings.
The old PC-DOS version 3.0 operating system had similar problems currupting harddrives. Old version of Xenix had a similar problem.

One work around might be to avoid filling up your CF. Stop using it when you have a number of shots left.

I have had a D60 with a 1G HD for a couple months and have had no problems. We also have had a Casio digital camera with a harddrive for a couple of years and the only time we have had problems was when I turned it off while it was still writing the data (DUH!).


-Eugene

[Burnett]

Hello Eugene k

Thanks for your thoughts
Its interesting really because it never happened until I updated the firmware to 1.2
Then the problems started

Regards

B

[marqui]

So far every photo taken has been using jpeg(Large) and using the USB lead we have not lost one single image. I have heard that sandisk card are very prone to loses. We use IBM Microdrives and 2 Lexar and we have lost nothing. Although we are still creating back-up's all the time and downloading to lap-top as often as possible.

Regards

Mark