Sorry, another FILM question

[timmyquest]

I want to get an Elan 7ne for some black and white work for my photography clases. I'd also like to get into IR photography, but it seems that you cant use this film in the camera??

That dosent make sense to me. Would i be able to, have to, use my old AE-1 for that?

[Jon]

The AE-1 would do fine for IR. IIRC, the 7NE uses an IR LED internally to track film advance and this would fog the IR film in-camera. And if you haven't already been introduced to them, get a film changing bag! B&W IR is extremely sensitive to visible light as well.

[timmyquest]

The AE-1 would do fine for IR. IIRC, the 7NE uses an IR LED internally to track film advance and this would fog the IR film in-camera. And if you haven't already been introduced to them, get a film changing bag! B&W IR is extremely sensitive to visible light as well.

Makes sense, you'd think they could come up with a better way to deal with that....

As for the bag: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=172918

What does it do?

[Jon]

They used to . . . Your AE-1 uses the old unimproved and IR-safe, mechanical sensors.

You'll need to load the camera in there. Also handy for the film shooter when the inevitable bent pin on the CF card (er, make that film jam) occurs. You may want to try an IR filter on your 1D to see how it does, too.

[timmyquest]

They used to . . . Your AE-1 uses the old unimproved and IR-safe, mechanical sensors.

You'll need to load the camera in there. Also handy for the film shooter when the inevitable bent pin on the CF card (er, make that film jam) occurs. You may want to try an IR filter on your 1D to see how it does, too.

How well do the IR filters work on film? At all? Black and White.

[Jon]

The Wratten 87 (Kodak) is virtually opaque to visible light, so you'll need to compose, then add filter and shift point of focus to the IR index point (might be another argument for the AE-1 there - all the FD lenses have an IR index mark). You can also use (in increasing susceptibility to visible light0 a Wratten 29 Red or Wratten 25 Red. When I was doing technical IR work, Kodak was about all there was. For colour IR (false colour), you'd use a Wratten 12 (minus blue). But the filters were originally applied to film - you're more likely to have problems with them on digital if the camera has (like the D60) a high-pass filter over the sensor to keep it from being affected by IR.

Oh, and somewhere (maybe here, but I don't recall) there's a list of EF lenses that do and don't work with IR (some create hot spots, some have other problems). ISTR the 50 f/1.8 was one that didn't do well. I don't know if the FD lenses had similar problems or maybe they weren't tested that way.

[Penguin_101]

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[Penguin_101_1]

Well TQ, I just got my Elan 7 and it is a wonderful camera! It has a lot of features and even more that I don't know how to use, yet ;). When I get a chance (tomorrow) I will give you a full report, but know I have to go. Merry Christmas! -Peng

[timmyquest]

Well TQ, I just got my Elan 7 and it is a wonderful camera! It has a lot of features and even more that I don't know how to use, yet ;). When I get a chance (tomorrow) I will give you a full report, but know I have to go. Merry Christmas! -Peng

I'll be able to give you a full report tomorrow :-) as a friend will be opening it for x-mas.