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Skrim17
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 10:45
Get a lenspen, sounds exterior to the actual mirror or sensor. Take a shot at f22 of a pale subject that fills the frame like a wall or cloudy sky, then we can have a better idea of what you've got.

A lenspen you can use to get the crud off the exterior of your lens or in the eyepiece.

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:00
Get a lenspen, sounds exterior to the actual mirror or sensor. Take a shot at f22 of a pale subject that fills the frame like a wall or cloudy sky, then we can have a better idea of what you've got.

A lenspen you can use to get the crud off the exterior of your lens or in the eyepiece.

A lenspen...you know of all the items i did NOT buy for cleaning, the lenspen was it!

But, I'll take a shot of a pale sky tonight when I get home - been cloudy for the past couple of days, so I've been unable to get a decent shot...

ok, now when you say f22, you have to remember you're talking to the biggest newbie here since man invented bread and had no idea on what to put in the first sandwich...by that I assume you're saying focus to infinity? or thereabouts...

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:00
*hangs head again*

Sawwwy I missed your birthday Terri! Happy Belated Birthday!!!
No hanging of your head :) you'll get a kink in your neck :lol: and thanks!
Thanks for the greetings all...I leave work, don't get on the laptop at all, come back and 3058934753402 pages have been added...I have had to spend ages playing "catch up"....On the plus side my cleaning kit has allegedly arrived today!!!
Holy smokes! That is a nice MQ from the new kid on the block :D

Just a quick check in before we get going. We're only going half way today (thank heavens) so there's not a huge rush on leaving.

Becky... I think I will take my camera after all. There's a little extra room in the luggage carrier. May as well. :p

Have a good day all. :D
Travel safe, glad you decided to take the camera after all :)

HARM: Sometimes the cameras come with pre-installed dust at no extra charge :rolleyes: mine did.

G'mae everyone. Office day :-|

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:08
I have alenspen, but I had it in my purse:rolleyes:and the top came off and it got something on the rubber end..so I cleaned it, but then was leery to use it again?

Will take a pic now and show you.luckily:rolleyes: its raining.

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:14
Just got back from the jobsite where I had shown photos of the house we will be demoing in order to build a bigger better one on the same site. I took some shots and hopefully can get around to posting them later.

Skrim17
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:41
I have alenspen, but I had it in my purse:rolleyes:and the top came off and it got something on the rubber end..so I cleaned it,

the rubber end that got dirty has a black carbon coating and that is how it cleans the lens, if you still have the cap put it on and twist it 1/2 turn and it will re-coat the lenspen with the carbony stuff and you can clean your lens with it.

wu_wei0
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:49
$10. Same as in town...A brief update, just as an aside. . . My academic research indicates that there is no $10 bag to be found anymore.

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:58
A brief update, just as an aside. . . My academic research indicates that there is no $10 bag to be found anymore.
Could have saved you some valuable time on that one :)

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:01
Hi everyone ~
So Wu how bout 20 bucks?

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:01
What has that lamp done to you two? It's not even a real female leg, just looks like one.....no need to swing with eachother!

Yeah....that was TMI...T..M..I dood.

If I were allowed in here: there just might be a bar brawl twix and tween me and thee. But alas I got Bounced out so.......

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:01
Hi ya Gail..you behavin ?

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:02
I think Iwill just buy a new one Crissa....

Here is what is looks like after cleaning the lens and the everything....I darkened it up..
Its depressing.this is the camera I bought off this forum, and I love it.but its not under warranty..luckily there is a camera shop and hour away that will clean this without sending it away for months.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/emmaloudawg/IMG_1526.jpg
My XT is, and it is going in for cleaning today.

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:03
So Terri did ya get any good stuff for your birthday?

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:03
If I were allowed in here: there just might be a bar brawl twix and tween me and thee. But alas I got Bounced http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/sesame/177/tigger5.gif out so.......
You were not. Stop it.

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:04
Hi ya Gail..you behavin ?

Hi everyone ~
So Wu how bout 20 bucks?

LOL.Deb, compared to you I am really behaving!:p

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:06
So Terri did ya get any good stuff for your birthday?
We don't really do the 'gift' thing anymore, I did get lots of hugs, phone calls and assorted cards :D

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:07
Great rants Dan.....but clue me in on what this is. I can't figure it out and I think I've gotten some OCD about it.

I think you mean PNY for that other card. It didn't come with one of those plastic cases like the SanDisk does? That would make me mad if the grooves got all messed up.

It is the end of a ram(not sure of term) used to swab a canon after it is fired. A damp rag is run down the barrel after firing to clan it and extinguish any embers before more powder is introduced.

Yes PNY and it came with the little plastic cover which got tossed in a drawer with the rest of them. I prefer to throw a bunch of cards in my right pocket when shooting. As I fill them up I put the full ones in my left pocket.

I've owned an XT, a 30D and a 40D and have yet to do anything but use a rocket blower on any of them.Wow that is pretty lucky.

A brief update, just as an aside. . . My academic research indicates that there is no $10 bag to be found anymore.:lol:

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:12
We don't really do the 'gift' thing anymore, I did get lots of hugs, phone calls and assorted cards :D
Yea here either but sometimes I get surprised . Sounds like it was perfect then Terri ...now the big Question ..do ya feel older? :p

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:12
HARM: Sometimes the cameras come with pre-installed dust at no extra charge :rolleyes: mine did.

My 30D and the 1Ds did. The 1D had two stubborn spots that required wet cleaning.

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:13
HARM: Sometimes the cameras come with pre-installed dust at no extra charge :rolleyes: mine did.

I suspect mine came with some of that free dust also. And when I went walking in a brook the other day, i must have dislogded some on the inside that stuck on the inside of the eyepiece for when I am taking shots...that will be a bitch to clean if it won't go away with a rocketblower!

Besides, if i do a decent enough job, it'll be better than when it was new!

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:14
Yea here either but sometimes I get surprised . Sounds like it was perfect then Terri ...now the big Question ..do ya feel older? :p
Nope :p Interestingly enough, I feel younger :)

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:18
Nope :p Interestingly enough, I feel younger :)
How old are you? maybe you should be feeling young ..lol ;)

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:20
How old are you? maybe you should be feeling young ..lol ;)

That is not someting you ask a Dragon. But let's just say she is in the range with Cat & I, but not Jim or dirt. :rolleyes::lol:

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:20
I suspect mine came with some of that free dust also. And when I went walking in a brook the other day, i must have dislogded some on the inside that stuck on the inside of the eyepiece for when I am taking shots...that will be a bitch to clean if it won't go away with a rocketblower!

Besides, if i do a decent enough job, it'll be better than when it was new!

Harm, please do a step by step for me.I think.or rather, am sure I am doing it wrong:confused:

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:21
How old are you? maybe you should be feeling young ..lol ;)
*G A S P* I am a dragon, therefore ageless :)
That is not someting you ask a Dragon. But let's just say she is in the range with Cat & I, but not Jim or dirt. :rolleyes::lol:
:lol::lol::lol:

wu_wei0
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:22
Could have saved you some valuable time on that one :)Didn't take long. ;)

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:24
That is not someting you ask a Dragon. But let's just say she is in the range with Cat & I, but not Jim or dirt. :rolleyes::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I forget your age but Cat is jail bait.

wu_wei0
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:25
Hi everyone ~
So Wu how bout 20 bucks? I think that's still a decade or two out of date, at least for OK, KS, and TX:lol:. At least, as of last accounting.

wu_wei0
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:26
That is not someting you ask a Dragon. But let's just say she is in the range with Cat & I, but not Jim or dirt. :rolleyes::lol:

And by dirt, you mean Wu, right?

Becky N
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:27
I've only had the camera a month, well, less than, and it has a couple of specs of dust in there. So i need to clean the sensor (yes, i read all the posts!), is the mirror easy to clean? and what about that eyepiece you look through? It seems that has a couple of specs of dust on it too....my task this weekend will be to pimp up the camera...

I thought the 40D has a sensor cleaner installed.

ok, now when you say f22, you have to remember you're talking to the biggest newbie here since man invented bread and had no idea on what to put in the first sandwich...by that I assume you're saying focus to infinity? or thereabouts...

f/22 is the aperature setting. The smaller apertures will let you see sensor slurm, like in Gail's shot above.

Think of aperature settings as fractions 1/4 is smaller than 1/2...the larger the number for your aperature, or f-stop thus f/22 the smaller the opening.

Besides showing sensor slurm this is useful for exposures. Many of us have and recommend Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure LINKY (http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212686696&sr=8-1)

It is the end of a ram(not sure of term) used to swab a canon after it is fired. A damp rag is run down the barrel after firing to clan it and extinguish any embers before more powder is introduced.

Yes PNY and it came with the little plastic cover which got tossed in a drawer with the rest of them. I prefer to throw a bunch of cards in my right pocket when shooting. As I fill them up I put the full ones in my left pocket.

You are correct on the cleaning rod and Curt does the same thing with the plastic covers and his CF cards.

Becky N
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:29
That is not someting you ask a Dragon. But let's just say she is in the range with Cat & I, but not Jim or dirt. :rolleyes::lol:

Oh, so now I'm dirt?!?!?:p

The Bear in my avi can easily be replaced with a Hound Dawg...just say'n. ;)

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:30
And by dirt, you mean Wu, right?

Oh, so now I'm dirt?!?!?:p

I don't hardly think so, the feminine folk are never 'old as dirt' consult your manuals :lol:

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:31
That is not someting you ask a Dragon. But let's just say she is in the range with Cat & I, but not Jim or dirt. :rolleyes::lol:
:evil: Hey, sometimes the truth hurts, you know. ;) :p :lol:
Hey wu, you young thang, help me out here. :D
I forget your age but Cat is jail bait.
She is barely older then my oldest daughter, she is. :D

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:33
And by dirt, you mean Wu, right?As I have said before the girls of POTN are ageless;) I suspect Wu has a nice old soul though.

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:34
Oh, so now I'm dirt?!?!?:p

The Bear in my avi can easily be replaced with a Hound Dawg...just say'n. ;)
Woo Hoo, now I gots the Sarge on my side, I like this a lot better then being on the other side. :D

If I remember right Gail was born in the same magical year that wu and I was. :D

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:35
age is irrelevant ..we are all on our way out :)

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:36
And by dirt, you mean Wu, right?
Go get him girl. :D
Jamie, my man, you can call me old, but to refer to these beautiful, perfectly aged girls as dirt, that is not a good idea. :D :p

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:36
Behave (or not, lol) back later......

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:36
Didnt mean that as gloom ..:) Just saying

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:36
age is irrelevant ..we are all on our way out :)
Truth. I, however, am still looking for my pass :)

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:39
Woo Hoo, now I gots the Sarge on my side, I like this a lot better then being on the other side. :D

If I remember right Gail was born in the same magical year that wu and I was. :D

Righto you are Jim, it was the best of times...:neutral:

Mine is coming up and I have my GIANT list ready for the asking public( they being my family).who strangely enough, since I have decided I like cameras and stuff.haven't been asking for a list at all:confused:

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:39
age is irrelevant ..we are all on our way out :)

Didnt mean that as gloom ..:) Just sayingTruth,none of us get out alive.

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:41
g'morning everyone :)

Becky, loved that hands shot...it was just beautiful.

I didn't quote this morning...just read.

Gail, were you thinking those slurms were your lens or your sensor? (looks like sensor to me)

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:42
I am really getting a complex now, I have been working in the City for three days AND YOU MOVED AGAIN !

but I found you :-)

(For Leftpodians The City is the one square mile that constitutes The City of London" as opposed to calling it London which encompasses the entire London conurbation.)

The next time POTN is asked to submit a contestant for the international bore of the year compertition.... I'm your man.

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:42
Lisa, I have no frikkin idea.....my lens are so clean they squeak..it must be sensor..:(

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:43
Crissa...I found reviews on those cards and it doesn't look like they work so well with canon cameras...go figure

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183188

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:44
Lisa, I have no frikkin idea.....my lens are so clean they squeak..it must be sensor..:(

that's what it looks like to me. I hate sensor cleaning. I probably should do mine though. Haven't done them in 8 months :lol:

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:47
that's what it looks like to me. I hate sensor cleaning. I probably should do mine though. Haven't done them in 8 months :lol:

And you do yours how.....?

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:47
:lol::lol::lol:
I forget your age but Cat is jail bait.
You are from the other day to march older than me.
And by dirt, you mean Wu, right?
NO! I never called you dirt.
Oh, so now I'm dirt?!?!?:p

The Bear in my avi can easily be replaced with a Hound Dawg...just say'n. ;)
No jim is the one that has birthdays one a week. Didn't he count and decided he was 80? So we had to start having reverse birthdays. You guys pulled this out the wrong way. I was defending the Dragon.
Go get him girl. :D
Jamie, my man, you can call me old, but to refer to these beautiful, perfectly aged girls as dirt, that is not a good idea. :D :p
I didn't call anyone Dirt. I was refering to the everyother day birthdays you used to have. Guess I should have been more definitive in my statement. Sorry!

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:48
wow, I just read that both CA and WA have passed the hands free driving (goes into effect July 1 2008) so if Dan wants to talk on the phone in the car in those states, he'll HAVE to buy an earbud :lol::lol::lol:

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:50
Hi ya Lisa ..:)

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:51
wow, I just read that both CA and WA have passed the hands free driving (goes into effect July 1 2008) so if Dan wants to talk on the phone in the car in those states, he'll HAVE to buy an earbud :lol::lol::lol:
I wished Alabama would do that. Nothing is more aggrevating than someone on their phone piddle assing down the drive holding up traffic.

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:52
And you do yours how.....?

First I try the rocket blower but it really never works for more than just the merest speck...


so I use this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/480240-REG/Visible_Dust_2863182_1_Arctic_Butterfly_724_with.h tml

If it gets dirty, it can be cleaned with regular rubbing alcohol and re-used over and over. It's expensive though. But we don't have to keep buying bottles of eclipse either.

I don't like wet cleaners. Some people use the lenspen sensorklear. I have one of those too but prefer the job the arctic butterfly does.

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:52
Youz sure a good backpaddler Jamie. :p
I knew what you mean, I just love to see you get in trouble though. ;)

I use a wet method to clean my sensors when needed. It is real easy and very little time at all.

wu_wei0
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:53
The next time POTN is asked to submit a contestant for the international bore of the year compertition.... I'm your man.We used to have a group that got together every weekend for dinner and hanging out-- we called ourselves a drone of boars. :D

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:54
wow, I just read that both CA and WA have passed the hands free driving (goes into effect July 1 2008) so if Dan wants to talk on the phone in the car in those states, he'll HAVE to buy an earbud :lol::lol::lol:
That is not a bad idea at all. Lots of new vehicles have bluetooth built right in for hands free operation. The GPS I just bought will sync to the phone via bluetooth as well. I am guilty of talking on the phone while driving too, it is a good time to take care of some of the multitude of calls I need to make. :D

wu_wei0
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:55
Crissa...I found reviews on those cards and it doesn't look like they work so well with canon cameras...go figure

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183188 :(The older versions were wonderful for me. knnow a lot of military photogs who used em, too --with no problems. Why do folks always want to go messing with a good thing?:confused:

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:56
Youz sure a good backpaddler Jamie. :p
I knew what you mean, I just love to see you get in trouble though. ;)
Ok great. I stay in enough trouble without any help.

Skrim17
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:56
wow, I just read that both CA and WA have passed the hands free driving (goes into effect July 1 2008) so if Dan wants to talk on the phone in the car in those states, he'll HAVE to buy an earbud :lol::lol::lol:

He can get his car wired to use hands free without an ear bud ;)

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:00
:(The older versions were wonderful for me. knnow a lot of military photogs who used em, too --with no problems. Why do folks always want to go messing with a good thing?:confused:

I don't know...the reviews mentioned that the older ones worked great...figures.

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:01
has anyone purchased from optics planet before?

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:02
has anyone purchased from optics planet before?
Not me.

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:04
never mind, they have bad reseller ratings

Becky N
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:07
Guess I should have been more definitive in my statement. Sorry!

We just like seeing how red your face can get and how much you can squirm.:p

wow, I just read that both CA and WA have passed the hands free driving (goes into effect July 1 2008 so if Dan wants to talk on the phone in the car in those states, he'll HAVE to buy an earbud

:shock:

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:08
you know he won't do it. He'll just not answer his phone in the car :lol:

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:10
Harm, please do a step by step for me.I think.or rather, am sure I am doing it wrong:confused:

Ha, you're asking someone who has never done it before to write a guide out for you? You're crazier than me!

I thought the 40D has a sensor cleaner installed.

Yes, but unless I am mistaken, it is an ultrasonic vibration to remove anything from the sensor - anything that is very much stuck on there would need to be wet cleaned, but even with a sensor cleaner, the dust specs would still remain inside the body, which means more of a chance to go back onto the sensor.

But I could be wrong, so I need to do what you all say, and take a shot of something pale at f/22 to see if the sensor is clean (although I did look in there last night with a bright light and it looks like it needs a clean!) or if it is just the mirror and they eyepiece that need the clean.

f/22 is the aperature setting. The smaller apertures will let you see sensor slurm, like in Gail's shot above.

Think of aperature settings as fractions 1/4 is smaller than 1/2...the larger the number for your aperature, or f-stop thus f/22 the smaller the opening.

Besides showing sensor slurm this is useful for exposures. Many of us have and recommend Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure LINKY (http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212686696&sr=8-1).

I'll be sure to have a try!!

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:13
We just like seeing how red your face can get and how much you can squirm.:p



:shock:
my face did not get as red as my ears did as I bounced out the bar last night. ;)

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:16
Ha, you're asking someone who has never done it before to write a guide out for you? You're crazier than me!


I may be:cool:

BearLeeAlive
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:18
Gail, HERE (http://www.copperhillimages.com/index.php?pr=Tutorials) is a good set of instructions on what to do to wet clean your sensor. It really is easy. Just don't wipe too much with the same pad, use a new one if a second wipe is needed. Just you moderate pressure and things will go fine. The sensor is coated to protect it from damage.

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:18
Just realised I got post #666...I am dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed

:evil::evil::evil::evil:

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:19
Just realised I got post #666...I am dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed

:evil::evil::evil::evil:
Yes, yes you are.

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:20
Gail, HERE (http://www.copperhillimages.com/index.php?pr=Tutorials) is a good set of instructions on what to do to wet clean your sensor. It really is easy. Just don't wipe too much with the same pad, use a new one if a second wipe is needed. Just you moderate pressure and things will go fine. The sensor is coated to protect it from damage.

and don't put too much liquid on it...also make sure you buy the proper liquid for the camera you own...

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:21
Just realised I got post #666...I am dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed

:evil::evil::evil::evil:

I'm sure that Zane could put on his voodoo priest gear and do some sort of ceremony to cleanse you...:lol:

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:27
and don't put too much liquid on it...also make sure you buy the proper liquid for the camera you own...

yes, when i bought it from copperhill, it does ask you to select a bunch of stuff depending on your camera...

poppie guy
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:42
I don't hardly think so, the feminine folk are never 'old as dirt' consult your manuals :lol:
Feminine folk are always beautiful... unless they are angry with me.. then I don't much care to see them.:lol:

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:48
Feminine folk are always beautiful... unless they are angry with me.. then I don't much care to see them.:lol:

Yes and on top of that, when they start to rant on, men develop "Selective Hearing" also

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:49
don't get me started you two! If I get to a place where rant, it's because there's a reason. :confused:

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:51
hey...I just noticed...Cat's gone. Wonder where she went?? She's so quiet about these things...one never knows when she'll be away.....







..... ;) :lol:

3Turner
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:51
If I were allowed in here: there just might be a bar brawl twix and tween me and thee. But alas I got Bounced out so.......I don't know Jaime....how does that 'ol saying go? I make love, not war. :p :lol: with the wife only!!!!

It is the end of a ram(not sure of term) used to swab a canon after it is fired. A damp rag is run down the barrel after firing to clan it and extinguish any embers before more powder is introduced.Oh....I know what you're talking about. That does make sense.

Yes PNY and it came with the little plastic cover which got tossed in a drawer with the rest of them. I prefer to throw a bunch of cards in my right pocket when shooting. As I fill them up I put the full ones in my left pocket.:shock: You are a lot more confident than me....if I carry any cards in my pocket, I always use those little covers. I don't want anything to get near those little holes and then pushed in when inserting into the camera....could mess up the card if not the camera with FOD.

I thought the 40D has a sensor cleaner installed.It has a sensor shaker...not really a cleaner per say. It doesn't get all the gunk off mine, the rocket blower does the rest.

No jim is the one that has birthdays one a week. Didn't he count and decided he was 80? So we had to start having reverse birthdays. You guys pulled this out the wrong way. I was defending the Dragon.Did I miss Jim's Un-Birthday again!?!?!

wow, I just read that both CA and WA have passed the hands free driving (goes into effect July 1 2008) so if Dan wants to talk on the phone in the car in those states, he'll HAVE to buy an earbud :lol::lol::lol:He could always just use the speaker phone or use the bluetooth capability with a Garmin GPS unit which can double as a telephone speaker.

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:52
yes, when i bought it from copperhill, it does ask you to select a bunch of stuff depending on your camera...
I will comment that Copperhill uses all sorts of scary complicated text to make it seem like a much bigger task than it is. They seem to do it to sell more products for lots of money. The product I got from them I was not thrilled with and from their advertising I expected it to be a bit more than it was. To top it off someone on here scratched their sensor using their product. They commented on it and mentioned Copperhill but only to say what they were using not to in anyway blame the company. The owner came on POTN and really sort of attacked the guy. He was rude, condescending, and not someone I would like to do business with. I swore I would never buy another Copperhill product again.

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:54
:shock: You are a lot more confident than me....


Yes, yes I am:p

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:56
Jaime I'll make love, not war.
Sorry Bobby but your just not my type.

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:58
Oh and on the sensor cleaning, when it really comes down to it you are just wiping a clear cover that is over top of the sensor with a swab. There is nothing complicated or difficult about it.

3Turner
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:59
Changing quotes again are we Jaime? :evil:

Skrim17
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:00
I regularly throw cards sans covers in my pockets, I don't baby my gear much at all actually.

Roberto are you home yet?

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:02
Oh, Hello.

Didn't see you lot here...

http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/normal/20080511_APER5669.jpg

Jon
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:05
Got chatty last night while our power was out, I see . . .

AHHHH!!!!http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6499/ahhh1gv.gif

*must set up a secured corner!*http://www.onlinewebservice4.de/forumowspix/wall.gifNot a chance. . . We've got complete access.

That only works on the other thread. ;)


:lol: *preparing for the onslaught*You wish . . .

I'm bribing the mods. If we can't have a leg lamp, I'm going to have this thread closed permanently...Not a chance of that, either! Remember who declared it a LLFZ?

For just a second, that looked like the spammer that was here last night. I almost clicked the "HEY MODS!" button till I saw it was you. :lol:Shoulda!

Hey Zane! You forget what burning magnesium does to steel? Dragon Lady can't be happy about the new stainless dance floor!

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:08
Sorry Bobby but your just not my type.

Yes, yes I am:p

lol...I read these ^^^ in this order...it shook me for a minute :lol:

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:09
Not a chance of that, either! Remember who declared it a LLFZ?
!

you have no idea how nice it is to know you aren't bribable (in this case anyway :lol:...don't want to close off other doors...)

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:10
lol...I read these ^^^ in this order...it shook me for a minute :lol:
roflmao

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:10
Sorry Bobby but your just not my type.

your type is a spider (as per your earlier wall hangers)??

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:11
The perfect Father's Day (https://www.securemyimage.com/secure/uploads/iBoob.GIF).


*runs off to the tent sale to avoid the school of fish headed my way*

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:11
your type is a spider (as per your earlier wall hangers)??
LOL that is a good one. No I really hate spiders. I just make myself shoot them.

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:12
your type is a spider (as per your earlier wall hangers)??

Don't temp me....

You're new, I see. Welcome.

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:12
Got chatty last night while our power was out, I see . . .

Hey Zane! You forget what burning magnesium does to steel? Dragon Lady can't be happy about the new stainless dance floor!One heck of a storm eh?

Sorry dragon

lol...I read these ^^^ in this order...it shook me for a minute :lol:
:confused:Ew ew ew..........

Permagrin
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:13
One heck of a storm eh?

Sorry dragon


:confused:Ew ew ew..........

I SAID it shook me! :lol:

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:15
Hey Zane! You forget what burning magnesium does to steel? Dragon Lady can't be happy about the new stainless dance floor!
The good thing is the lamp got caught up in the stainless and magnesium reaction. Thank Goodness.

short5
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:18
The good thing is the lamp got caught up in the stainless and magnesium reaction. Thank Goodness.

BOUNCER!

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:19
Dang, we're pretty close anyway, lol. We could always go back in, say, December. :lol:

How about November? I like to head that way around November. We could meet up there. Or early spring when the wildflowers are in bloom.

I've only had the camera a month, well, less than, and it has a couple of specs of dust in there. So i need to clean the sensor (yes, i read all the posts!), is the mirror easy to clean? and what about that eyepiece you look through?

The dust you see through the viewfinder is most likely on the focus screen in the pentaprism, not on the mirror or in the eyepiece. It's pretty easy to damage those, so when I get dust in there, I just ignore it.

A brief update, just as an aside. . . My academic research indicates that there is no $10 bag to be found anymore.

I'll have to take your word for it. It's been a while since I've done any, uh... Research... *wink, wink*

hey...I just noticed...Cat's gone. Wonder where she went?? She's so quiet about these things...one never knows when she'll be away.....

Did she say anything? I don't remember her giving us a "not squished" warning. This isn't like her. I'm starting to get worried...

Not a chance of that, either! Remember who declared it a LLFZ?

But, I thought RRTP was the LLFZ! Not this thread. We've always had a leg lamp or two in here.

you have no idea how nice it is to know you aren't bribable (in this case anyway :lol:...don't want to close off other doors...)

He ain't the only mod... ;)

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:19
Don't temp me....

You're new, I see. Welcome.

better than being old, I guess...

Skrim17
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:20
What about Neil, did he give us an un-smooshed alert?

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:23
I have been in the City of London for three days, I did post a page back telling you all off for moving again whilst I was away :-)

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:23
The dust you see through the viewfinder is most likely on the focus screen in the pentaprism, not on the mirror or in the eyepiece. It's pretty easy to damage those, so when I get dust in there, I just ignore it.

sounds about right (didn't really know the super technical name for it). So really, I shouldn't clean it then?? It is an annoying speck that bugs (No need for a shot - Jamie Holladay!) the hell out of me, so I was wondering on how to clean it...

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:25
Dontcha just love it when you decide to take your camera with you to a business meeting because you know that the meeting is in a building very near to something you want to photograph, in my case the monument to the fire of London, and when you get there it looks like this :-)

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0670.jpg

City of London rant on the way

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:26
sounds about right (didn't really know the super technical name for it). So really, I shouldn't clean it then?? It is an annoying speck that bugs (No need for a shot - Jamie Holladay!) the hell out of me, so I was wondering on how to clean it...

Well, I'm not telling you not to. That's up to you. But, if it were me, I'd leave it alone. I can see a few specks in my camera's viewfinder, but I just ignore them and pretend I don't see it.

I have been known to wipe down the focus screen on my old film SLRs before, though.

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:27
Thanks for the info Jim and all.just ordered the Copperhill kit.;)

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:27
Well, I'm not telling you not to. That's up to you. But, if it were me, I'd leave it alone. I can see a few specks in my camera's viewfinder, but I just ignore them and pretend I don't see it.

I have been known to wipe down the focus screen on my old film SLRs before, though.
I see a speck in my viewfinder too, but only when using the 24-70 and TC. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:29
I will comment that Copperhill uses all sorts of scary complicated text to make it seem like a much bigger task than it is. They seem to do it to sell more products for lots of money. The product I got from them I was not thrilled with and from their advertising I expected it to be a bit more than it was. To top it off someone on here scratched their sensor using their product. They commented on it and mentioned Copperhill but only to say what they were using not to in anyway blame the company. The owner came on POTN and really sort of attacked the guy. He was rude, condescending, and not someone I would like to do business with. I swore I would never buy another Copperhill product again.

Now I read this:confused:

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Becky N
Really? And where might you be headed?
Not anywhere interesting actually... (that could be why I haven't mentioned it)...Niece's graduation, Lake Tahoe, Mono Lake, Yosemite, Sequoia NP, maybe Death Valley. A few places I have marked on TOPO along the way (a hot springs that sounded interesting).
__________________
Cat
~absit iniuria verbis~

So ya'll didn;t worry anymore.

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:33
So ya'll didn;t worry anymore.

We're a sarcastic bunch here. We've been teasing. Everyone knows where she went. She's only been talking about it for months now... ;)

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:34
Well, I'm not telling you not to. That's up to you. But, if it were me, I'd leave it alone. I can see a few specks in my camera's viewfinder, but I just ignore them and pretend I don't see it.

I have been known to wipe down the focus screen on my old film SLRs before, though.

Thanks for the advice. It has been taken on board!! Although out of curiousity sake - would even a light brush with a SensorSweep (sp?) brush damage it? What about a little air from a rocketblower?

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:36
We're a sarcastic bunch here.

I thought that was the main pre-requisite to joining up on Potn

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:36
Re: sensor cleaning. I've only had to resort to wet cleaning once, on my 20D. Most of the time the Rocket Blower takes care of the problem for me, but last year I had one real stubborn blob that wouldn't go away until I smeared a swab with some cleaning goop on it over the sensor. I used the stuff from Visible Dust (http://www.visibledust.com/) because Athena recommended it. Worked for me.

BTW, my 20D also came with factory installed dust.

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:38
Thanks for the advice. It has been taken on board!! Although out of curiousity sake - would even a light brush with a SensorSweep (sp?) brush damage it? What about a little air from a rocketblower?

I'm not sure what a SensorSweep brush is. But, if it's soft, it probably wouldn't hurt.

Blasting the inside of your camera with a Rocket Blower while the shutter is closed is very likely to permanently damage your shutter curtains, though. You don't want to do that. If you're going to try to blast the dust off the focus screen with a Rocket, at least put the camera into sensor cleaning mode so the shutter is open.

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:40
Thanks for the info Jim and all.just ordered the Copperhill kit.;)

I got the same stuff, Gail. Best part is, is that it only took just a couple of days to get to me...but worth having in my bag in case anything does get dirty!!

At least someone can now say to you "is that a rocket in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" - Assuming you got a rocket blower in the kit.

Jon
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:42
I see a speck in my viewfinder too, but only when using the 24-70 and TC. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
24-70 and TC? Double HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:43
I got the same stuff, Gail. Best part is, is that it only took just a couple of days to get to me...but worth having in my bag in case anything does get dirty!!

At least someone can now say to you "is that a rocket in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" - Assuming you got a rocket blower in the kit.

Lol.if they say that to me they will be walking with a white cane or a seeing eye dog..lol..but good to know you got the same one as well....

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:44
I am not sure if owning a G9 is a good thing or not. I had three days in the City of London and the G9 fits in my briefcase. I now find it takes me far longer than it used to to walk between buildings.

City of London rant begins. (There are some more HERE (http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/list.php?exhibition=160&u=851620,13))

This rather phallic building that dominates the London skyline is No 30 St Mary Axe but it is more commonly known as "The Gherkin"

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0629.jpg

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0664.jpg

They finally got round to naming a London street after me (well not really it has been there for ages, it is here where the Great fire of London started in 1666)

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0674.jpg

An interesting City Pub

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0658.jpg

The weather vane on top of Billingsgate Market, this was the main fish market that served London

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0683.jpg

Where better to eat your lunch on a day like this than in Trinity Square

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0723.jpg

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:47
Nice rant, Neil. Your pix loaded really fast for me, for a change. That building in the first couple shots is rather, er... Interesting. :rolleyes: :lol:

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:48
How beautiful Neil!
Love the pub lane!
I didn't know your name was Pudding:cool:or is it EC3:eek:

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:49
I thought that was the main pre-requisite to joining up on Potn

24-70 and TC? Double HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
oopppps 70-200 :rolleyes:

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:51
Neil why did you take Cat's fish and put it on top of that building?

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:51
How beautiful Neil!
Love the pub lane!
I didn't know your name was Pudding:cool:or is it EC3:eek:

My surname is Rice, do the math :-)

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:52
Aha!:D

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:53
Neil why did you take Cat's fish and put it on top of that building?

Lol the place should be renamed Fish Slappers Hall

http://www.ambrosiabbs.com/gallery/photo/medium/City_of_London_June_08_IMG_0687.jpg

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:55
Gotta love London, and Sir Norman's designs are certainly....unique!!

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:00
Nice rant Neil. Takes me back to the old days of working in the big smoke.

I've had a few pints in Dirty Dicks...

neil_r
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:02
I've had a few pints in Dirty Dicks...

Its better than having a few..... .... in your pint

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:05
Its better than having a few..... .... in your pint

I don't even want to know what pubs you go to for that anology!!

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:07
Me neither:o

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:08
Its better than having a few..... .... in your pint
YIKES

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:10
Reminds me of a friend of hubbys;..this was when they used to drop 40 glasses of beer at a table at once.....he would take out his false teeth and dip them in half a dozen glasses, all the while saying, " mine,mine,mine,mine,mine,mine" then go to the washroom.

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:11
Its better than having a few..... .... in your pint

Unfortunately, while I was drinking there once, I did see a city wag do just that to one of his friend's pints....

I guess it's a tradition...

Flo
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:12
Unfortunately, while I was drinking there once, I did see a city wag do just that to one of his friend's pints....

I guess it's a tradition...
:shock::shock:

thomascanty
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:13
Remind me to stay away from that pub... :shock:

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:14
Remind me to stay away from that pub... :shock:

You just don't leave any beer in your glass when you go to the toilet...

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:16
To those who remember Thunderbirds....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ZAmVF6crE

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:17
Unfortunately, while I was drinking there once, I did see a city wag do just that to one of his friend's pints....

I guess it's a tradition...

Are you sure he wasn't making a cocktail?

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:17
You just don't leave any beer in your glass when you go to the toilet...

Oh, most definitely...living in a city all the time, you never leave your pint unattended...

Becky N
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:17
hey...I just noticed...Cat's gone.

*Looks around* She is? Will I'll be, had know idea she was going anywhere.

City of London rant begins.


Nice rant Neil. Have you ever told us what it is you do to qualify as "gainfully employed"?

Becky N
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:19
Are you sure he wasn't making a cocktail?

:rolleyes:




:lol::lol::lol:

Harm
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:19
Oh someone had to, Becky...

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:25
Unfortunately, while I was drinking there once, I did see a city wag do just that to one of his friend's pints....

I guess it's a tradition...
what is a wag?
Are you sure he wasn't making a cocktail?
:shock:

better you than me I still have scale imprints on my face from the last fish slap.

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:26
my face did not get as red as my ears did as I bounced out the bar last night. ;)
What. Ever.
I'm sure that Zane could put on his voodoo priest gear and do some sort of ceremony to cleanse you...:lol:
:lol:



Hey Zane! You forget what burning magnesium does to steel? Dragon Lady can't be happy about the new stainless dance floor!
*sigh* collateral damage. He was defending the lamp, how can I be upset :lol:
The good thing is the lamp got caught up in the stainless and magnesium reaction. Thank Goodness.
:-|

Pete
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:28
what is a wag?

A complete idiot in a suit who thinks he's funny.

They usually laugh at their own jokes in a high-pitched "haw haw haw <insert donkey-ish snort> haw haw haw" type call...

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:30
Nice I swear I have posted 3 things for this thread and are now in cyber space ..WTH ..

Miniflash
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:31
I'm not here really ..just saying ..
I love you photos Neil

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:37
A complete idiot in a suit who thinks he's funny.

They usually laugh at their own jokes in a high-pitched "haw haw haw <insert donkey-ish snort> haw haw haw" type call...
Ok I think I follow that.

misspix
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:38
NEIL!!!! Sorry, forgot to say great London rant :D

Nice I swear I have posted 3 things for this thread and are now in cyber space ..WTH ..
That happens to me, generally after some sort of chemical reaction :confused:

Jamie Holladay
5th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:41
That happens to me, generally after some sort of chemical reaction :confused:
*avoids barn door*