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E.C.Giorgio
27th of December 2004 (Mon), 08:29
Happy Holiday's to ALL!
Now my question is, i've been shooting RAW images with my Cannon 10d!
But i've been having trouble uploading them on my computer. Cannon gave some software to help with this, but i can't load it either. I do have "photoshop 6" but it doesn't work either, UGH! Most of my pro friends who have Cannon's use outside software packages and get great results?
Can anyone out in there photoland recommend some good SOFTWARE?
THANKS, MANNY

Scottes
27th of December 2004 (Mon), 09:27
Breeze Browser, Capture One, Bibble

Some people love one, some like another, others hate one of them. Try all 3 and see what suits you. I will say that I think Breeze Browser is the easiest to learn, so that's a good starting point. I would not start with Capture One unless you are willing to spend some time learning it.

Steven M. Anthony
27th of December 2004 (Mon), 14:42
If you can aford the upgrade to Photoshop CS, you won't be sorry! I have the 10D and Adobe Camera Raw works wonders!

Jesper
27th of December 2004 (Mon), 15:02
Happy Holiday's to ALL!
Now my question is, i've been shooting RAW images with my Cannon 10d!
But i've been having trouble uploading them on my computer. Cannon gave some software to help with this, but i can't load it either.
Why can't you use Canon's software? Is it because you don't know how it works (in that case, read the manual)? Or it doesn't work on your computer? If that's the case, do you get an error message? What's the problem?
I do have "photoshop 6" but it doesn't work either, UGH! Most of my pro friends who have Cannon's use outside software packages and get great results?
Photoshop 6 cannot read Canon RAW files. You need Photoshop CS or Photoshop Elements 3.0 for that. Why not ask your pro friends what they use and how they do it?

CDickinson
27th of December 2004 (Mon), 16:23
I asked the same questions last year....did a lot of experimenting with 3rd party software ---almost everything I could get my hands on.....and came to the conclusion that C1 pro (Capture 1 or Phase 1) is the best for my intentions and needs.
You can download trials of almost all of them and then play around till you figure out which one works best for you.

C

E.C.Giorgio
27th of December 2004 (Mon), 17:23
Thanks everyone for your answers, they were all great! I will look into all your suggestions. I've read about C1 Pro or Phase 1, and i thought it was one of the best software packages out there, I also found it to be on the expensive side, plus i didn't know too much about it! But i will read more about it!
Oh by the way Jesper, some of us ole photog's or "baby boomers" are anti-computer people, "purist", call us what you like! When we went to school we were taught to use our minds and not have a machine figure problems out for us. The cannon 10d is an outstanding camera, but in my case trying to figure what all those dials & buttons do will take me the rest of my life, hehe? Thanks again, MANNY

Jesper
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 00:42
Ok, but if you haven't tried Canon's software that you got with the camera, how do you know something else like Capture One, BreezeBrowser etc. is going to be any easier? All of those programs are full of buttons, features and options.....

I have Photoshop CS and Capture One, and also Canon Digital Photo Professional 1.5. Currently, I like that last program best for converting RAW images. If you have a 10D, you can download that last program from Canon's website. You do need to have the Canon software that came with your camera on your computer before you can install Photo Professional.

E.C.Giorgio
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 15:28
Jesper, i've read on this site that Cannon's software is extremely slow, and doesn't always work. Matter of fact when i bought the 10d, one of my pro friends(he's got a 10d also) told me to stay away from Cannon's software "don't load it"! I went ahead anyway and he was right, i had a tough time downloading it, I gave up!
I don't even have my 10d hooked up to my computer with a scuzy. I bought a card scanner and hooked that up to my computer. I'm going to take "Scottes" & the other pros advise and look into the alternative software. Thanks again, manny

Jesper
29th of December 2004 (Wed), 04:07
Canon's software is not extremely slow and I haven't read many posts of people who said it doesn't work at all. In fact, Canon Digital Photo Professional is fast, it seems to be faster than Capture One on my computer.

You don't need to have your camera connected to your computer to work with the Canon software - it can also copy images from a card reader, what you're doing. By all means, have a look at the alternative programs to see which one suits you best, but the Canon software is free, so I'd check it out before I'd spend money on something else...

toddb
29th of December 2004 (Wed), 04:19
If you own Photoshop 6, then the more logical choice money wise is to upgrade to Photoshop CS. It comes with the Raw converter and it can be automated. The new file viewer is very improved over past versions plus you can work all the important adjustments in PSCS in 16bit mode which CAN be a real plus. To get the good C1 is allot of money unless you don't mind the limited batching of the normal version.

The only thing with PS CS, it's pretty steep learning curve and most curse it before they get remotely close to figuring it out but there is no better photo imaging software out there especially that would be considered a full package.

Steven M. Anthony
29th of December 2004 (Wed), 08:19
Canon's software is not extremely slow and I haven't read many posts of people who said it doesn't work at all. In fact, Canon Digital Photo Professional is fast, it seems to be faster than Capture One on my computer.

You don't need to have your camera connected to your computer to work with the Canon software - it can also copy images from a card reader, what you're doing. By all means, have a look at the alternative programs to see which one suits you best, but the Canon software is free, so I'd check it out before I'd spend money on something else...

Not slow? My experience is that it takes about 3 minutes to convert an image on my laptop using the Canon-supplied RAW converter. PS CS converst an image in about 20 seconds.

E.C.Giorgio
3rd of January 2005 (Mon), 23:06
Thanks Everyone for your HELP!!!
manny g.

Jesper
4th of January 2005 (Tue), 04:40
Not slow? My experience is that it takes about 3 minutes to convert an image on my laptop using the Canon-supplied RAW converter. PS CS converst an image in about 20 seconds.Which Canon-supplied RAW converter? File Viewer Utility or Digital Photo Professional? DPP is much faster than FVU.

gmitchel
4th of January 2005 (Tue), 06:46
Compared with PS CS and ACR, the Canon software is extremely *SLOOOWWWW" with some RAW images. Canon 1Ds MkII images take *MUCH* longer to load into Canon's EVU or DPP software.

Cheers,

Mitch