June 7th's rockin wedding!

[picturecrazy]

had a ton of fun with these guys!

1. Organizing a wedding during makeup (85 1.8 )
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/104334_0239.jpg

2. Writing an "I love you" card to future hubby (11-16mm)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/123041_1406.jpg

3. A moment in the trees (10-22)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/151545_0489.jpg

4. A kiss in the woods (70-200)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/152913_0535.jpg

5. Breezy Bridal (10-22)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/154832_1601.jpg

6. Stormy Love (10-22)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/155144_1611.jpg

7. Caught in the Wind (10-22)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/155343_1615.jpg

8. As the world whizzes by (10-22)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/164715_1656.jpg

9. Don't let go (70-200)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/160716_0568.jpg

10. Graffiti fashion (10-22)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/165900_1666.jpg

11. First Dance (24-70)
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/224428_0915.jpg

12. After the wedding party attacked them
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LyndseyJasonW/224004_1745.jpg


Comments and critiques very welcome. =)

BTW... slideshow is here if anyone interested:
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/slides/08/LyndseyJasonW

[ded007]

Great stuff.

[akhoopes]

wow i absolutly love number 5-7-8 you should submit these they are amazing, very good, care to share any processing or techinques on these. great job.

[picturecrazy]

wow i absolutly love number 5-7-8 you should submit these they are amazing, very good, care to share any processing or techinques on these. great job.

thanks guys! :)


for 5 and 7, the post processing is rather minimal. What makes it dramatic is the lighting. One light on both sides of her... you can see the lights in 7.

For 8, I used a polarizing filter (I MEANT to use an ND4 filter, but I grabbed the wrong one out of my bag and I left the bag in the car) to get a slow shutter speed. One slave flash at full power to my left to give a tiny bit of fill (At F/20 ISO100 and a polarizer, the 580 BARELY gives off any light), and for processing, used a curve mask to brighten up the buildings.

[tmonatr]

Nice work. Really love 5-8 (with 8 being amazingly creative! my favorite). Only nitpik would be with #1. With that PP, I don't feel the image is as good as it could be when it is viewed alone. However, when seen in the context of the slideshow, it fits much better.

And I see you shot #8 at f20. You should never go above f16 because lens refraction will cause softness. (J/K;). Someone always like to say that, but clearly this image is sharp. REALLY like that shot!) :D

[ded007]

for 5 and 7, the post processing is rather minimal. What makes it dramatic is the lighting. One light on both sides of her... you can see the lights in 7.

Two 580s?

I attempted a shot nearly identical to #5 on Saturday with billowy clouds. (with 430s albeit) I jacked it up and it was THE one I really wanted to nail. So I'd love to know how you lit that one. Where they were positioned, ratio, etc. To get a frame of reference.

[haleiwa-brando]

#5 and #7 look like magazine material to me. #5 is my fav for sure. Nice work on all of them.

[TwistedGray]

#5 is a great pic except her expression unless she has no chin?

#10 love the colors in there!

[cdifoto]

This is why you're mad paid. #7 is just wild. :cool:


BTW I hate it when you start a thread after I get one going. :mad:

[Timphoto]

I love the effects in #8, but it appears the the SUV on the left is going backwards?

[TwistedGray]

but it appears the the SUV on the left is going backwards?

Not sure how you see that perspective but it's definitely going in the right direction (toward the camera)

[joruiz]

You used the 11-16 only for one of these pics... and then the 10-22 for the other UW photos.. my question is (I'm interested in buying the 11-16) could you have used the 11-16 for all your ultra wide shots and not miss the 10-22? how do you feel about the tokina?

great photos, I love 7.

I think 8 is slightly tilted to the left?

[Ralph Merlino]

Very nice set.

[auroraskye]

Beautiful stuff, really magazine quality.

[picturecrazy]

#5 is a great pic except her expression unless she has no chin?

#10 love the colors in there!

I actually *LOVE* her expression. It's the look of surprise. I think she too was a little caught off guard by the wind. I think it makes the shot. But it doesn't look as good at such a small size...



And I see you shot #8 at f20. You should never go above f16 because lens refraction will cause softness. (J/K;). Someone always like to say that, but clearly this image is sharp. REALLY like that shot!) :D

LOL, don't get me started. ;) I routinely shoot above F/16. Pixel peepers are more concerned with ultimate sharpness and less concerned with what it takes to get the shot. With what I had, I couldn't possibly do it wider than F/20.

This is why you're mad paid. #7 is just wild. :cool:

BTW I hate it when you start a thread after I get one going. :mad:

umm, sorry. didn't mean it. :o

[Lindísima]

I am too tired now to try to say something more than "ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL"! I am sure I will go back and look at these pictures more than once!

[picturecrazy]

Two 580s?

I attempted a shot nearly identical to #5 on Saturday with billowy clouds. (with 430s albeit) I jacked it up and it was THE one I really wanted to nail. So I'd love to know how you lit that one. Where they were positioned, ratio, etc. To get a frame of reference.

Light on the right was a 580EX on full power, 50mm zoom, on a light stand 13 ft high. Light on the left was a sunpak 622 at full power at standard zoom, about 7 ft high. The 622 is approx double the power of a 580.

You used the 11-16 only for one of these pics... and then the 10-22 for the other UW photos.. my question is (I'm interested in buying the 11-16) could you have used the 11-16 for all your ultra wide shots and not miss the 10-22? how do you feel about the tokina?



I use the two lenses quite differently. The tokina is used for ultra-wide natural light shooting. Typically indoors. The 10-22 is used for flash photos and outdoors. The 11-16 is quite prone to flare I have found, which wouldn't help me out at all for shots like 5 and 7. The 10-22 is extremely flare resistant. You can see the green flares in 7 on the left. That's about as bad as the flare gets on this lens, so it allows me to place all my light sources anywhere I want without worrying about flare or loss of contrast. The tokina doesn't handle these situations nearly as well.

So no, I do not feel that the tokina could take the place of the 10-22. Which is why I have both!

[cdifoto]

umm, sorry. didn't mean it. :o

Just ribbing ya of course! ;) :p

You're the master of that off-camera lighting stuff and I don't think I could ever get the hang of it, let alone want to go through the process ie schlepping light stands & such. Tell me though...what/whom did you first practice on? I can't imagine you took your first baby steps on client time...?

[Dorman]

Wow Lloyd this is a really great bunch of images, well processed, well lit, and most importantly (assuming!) well thought/planned out. A bunch of these should definitely fall in your best of portfolio kinda category. I've never thought about shooting weddings with an ultrawide except for tight spaces, that and I don't have an UWA. Very inspiring!

I'm digging deep for a couple of nitpicks as without them we don't progress...

#1 - I find the lightbulb blurred out in the middle of the frame to be distracting
#3 - Love the perspective, not sure about the processing - I have a calibrated monitor and it appears to have a magenta cast to it, but I could be going crazy
#7 - might be better if you cloned out the two small flare spots?

That's really it for nitpicks, my only other complaint is that you are in Calgary so I can't tag along for a wedding and learn some of your awesome off camera flash tricks.

[g-money]

Very nice set loved them all really. BTW What do you use to make your slideshow? Is this the software sold by David Jay?

Greg

[Kathy H]

Fantastic stuff Lloyd!

Love the slideshow too.

Thanks for sharing, I needed some inspiration for this weekend and you sure supplied!:D

[mboardman]

great set Lloyd!! you always do an awesome job! I hope we can have a chance to work together some day.. I will be in Canada next month, care to take the 3 hour drive down.. :) jk!

[collierportraits]

Amazing images! I'm impressed. Really solid work. Great stuff.

#7 is especially amazing. I'd make it my home web page image...

However, I assume you left us with the dramatic images and you also had plenty of, say, facial shots of the bride and the bride and groom. The bride appears to be absolutely gorgeous, but I can't tell from these images. Keep it up and keep posting. Stunning images!

[picturecrazy]

Just ribbing ya of course! ;) :p

You're the master of that off-camera lighting stuff and I don't think I could ever get the hang of it, let alone want to go through the process ie schlepping light stands & such. Tell me though...what/whom did you first practice on? I can't imagine you took your first baby steps on client time...?

No, definitely didn't take baby steps on clients, though it was rough at first and I just keep refining it as time goes on. I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with my technique.

I practiced like mad in my backyard. Trees, fences, dolls, cars, chairs, tables, anything I could get a cool background with and was small enough to light up. That's how I learned, in the days long before strobist existed. ;) My very first experiments were back in 1990 and really sucked and was a waste of film.

Fantastic stuff Lloyd!

Love the slideshow too.

Thanks for sharing, I needed some inspiration for this weekend and you sure supplied!:D

Very nice set loved them all really. BTW What do you use to make your slideshow? Is this the software sold by David Jay?

Greg

glad you like the slideshow. Yes, the slideshow software is david jay's ShowitWeb Pro. money well spent!

[picturecrazy]

That's really it for nitpicks, my only other complaint is that you are in Calgary so I can't tag along for a wedding and learn some of your awesome off camera flash tricks.

Thanks for the critique Brad! I actually like flares and always keep them in. I think they're cool. LOL.

great set Lloyd!! you always do an awesome job! I hope we can have a chance to work together some day.. I will be in Canada next month, care to take the 3 hour drive down.. :) jk!


Hey you guys should come to Edmonton sometime and we'll go out shooting! :)

Amazing images! I'm impressed. Really solid work. Great stuff.

#7 is especially amazing. I'd make it my home web page image...

However, I assume you left us with the dramatic images and you also had plenty of, say, facial shots of the bride and the bride and groom. The bride appears to be absolutely gorgeous, but I can't tell from these images. Keep it up and keep posting. Stunning images!

Yeah, many shots are documentary in nature. The slideshow shows them if you are curious. And yes, the bride was gorgeous. :)

[cdifoto]

No, definitely didn't take baby steps on clients, though it was rough at first and I just keep refining it as time goes on. I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with my technique.

I practiced like mad in my backyard. Trees, fences, dolls, cars, chairs, tables, anything I could get a cool background with and was small enough to light up. That's how I learned, in the days long before strobist existed. ;) My very first experiments were back in 1990 and really sucked and was a waste of film.
Ahh good to know. I tried it on my car. Needless to say it wasn't a good subject. I think I shoulda duct taped a veil to the windshield.

[reefergal]

Those are all great. I love the one with the cars.

[pixelharmony]

Absolutely love #7! Great job, especially with the now so cooperative weather!

[ded007]

Light on the right was a 580EX on full power, 50mm zoom, on a light stand 13 ft high. Light on the left was a sunpak 622 at full power at standard zoom, about 7 ft high. The 622 is approx double the power of a 580.

Thank you, quite helpful.

Again, wonderful shots.

-D

[picturecrazy]

Ahh good to know. I tried it on my car. Needless to say it wasn't a good subject. I think I shoulda duct taped a veil to the windshield.

LOL, I liked using relatively short trees, because I could get my flash close enough, and I could get the sky into the background easily. Good practice.

Those are all great. I love the one with the cars.

Absolutely love #7! Great job, especially with the now so cooperative weather!


thanks guys! appreciate it!


Thank you, quite helpful.

Again, wonderful shots.

-D


glad to have helped. creative lighting can set you apart from the rest of the wedding shooters, so it's a great weapon to have. :)

[Robert16]

#7 is inspiring. Raising the bar right there Lloyd

[cdifoto]

LOL, I liked using relatively short trees, because I could get my flash close enough, and I could get the sky into the background easily. Good practice.
Short trees is a good idea. I'll have to trespass on the neighbor's lawn but I'll bust out my free pass aka business card & tell her it's alright and she gets free pics for not calling the cops. :cool: ;) :p

[Tobiah]

7 & 8 are amazing!!!!

how was 7 lit?

[sidx001]

+14 or 15 or whatever we are up to!! Great pictures, 5-8 are incredible! Can't wait to try a couple of those myself!

[woolbr8stl]

Love your creative shots,

[rsmedley]

The shots are great but the slideshow is much too fast and combined with the constant zooming in and out is annoying to watch. I'd slow the slide transitions down and get rid of most of the zooming, except where it fits.

[picturecrazy]

7 & 8 are amazing!!!!

how was 7 lit?

Thanks. The lighting description is in an earlier post in this thread.

+14 or 15 or whatever we are up to!! Great pictures, 5-8 are incredible! Can't wait to try a couple of those myself!

Love your creative shots,

thanks guys! :)

The shots are great but the slideshow is much too fast and combined with the constant zooming in and out is annoying to watch. I'd slow the slide transitions down and get rid of most of the zooming, except where it fits.


You must be one of the only people who doesn't like the ken burns effect. The vast majority of slideshows made for the last 4 years uses it. :)
But yeah, I do admit the pace is a little fast, but it's difficult to tell the FULL story of the day in about 3 minutes. Thanks for the critique

cheers

[JimAskew]

...

Lloyd,

Wonderful set...I really liked 2, 6, 8. #8 is an especially stunning, different, and unique photo...I love it :)

[embdaw]

I really like all of these, great shots!

[picturecrazy]

I really like all of these, great shots!


Lloyd,

Wonderful set...I really liked 2, 6, 8. #8 is an especially stunning, different, and unique photo...I love it :)


thanks guys. :)

Jim! Long time no talk! It's been a while. Hope all is good!
Yeah, 10 was a request from the bride. I had taken a similar shot from another wedding and she loved it, so we made the effort to get out and do another one. This one worked better than the last one as it was cloudy and darker that day.

[A_Gurl]

I think you did a great job with all of these...it is hard to pick a favorite...although I really like the idea of them standing on the sidewalk in the middle of the road...nice idea and photo...great job!

[stathunter]

Lloyd - excellent work. Good use of creativity and lighting. Great capture of emotion and creative capture of location. Well done.

[drogos]

2,4,7,8 are killer shots!!!! I think my vote goes to #2 today. I love to mood and I go through "back light" phase right so now what's not to like :) The whole series is damn good. Probably the best I've seen from You in a while

[JimAskew]

... Jim! Long time no talk! It's been a while. Hope all is good! ...

Hi LLoyd,

Life is good. I got a 5D in March with some of my company bonus money...I am loving this camera. I have been shooting 2nd for Suzy (SuzyView) and having a lot of fun with that...no pressure as the 2nd shooter...just relax and have some creative fun.

I also did a Honors funeral at Arlington National Cemetery (ANC) in late April. I got some awesome shots of the horse drawn casket with the honor guard escort. I made the widow a 50 page 5x7 album of the funeral.

Hope all is well with you also, I love you photos...they always inspire...please keep posting :)

[eelnoraa]

Absolutely amazing pictures.

As for off camera flash, what do you use to fire flash remotely? Do you use ETTL (Canon 580EX/ST-2) or manual (like pocket wizard)?

eel

[picturecrazy]

thank you much guys. Jim, I'd love to second shoot more. The pressure of being the primary wears me down week after week. It's really stressful!!

Absolutely amazing pictures.

As for off camera flash, what do you use to fire flash remotely? Do you use ETTL (Canon 580EX/ST-2) or manual (like pocket wizard)?

eel

I use pocketwizards to fire flashes. It's the industry standard for ultra reliable triggering. No time to muss and fuss with unreliable triggering when on location and in a hurry. You gotta know it'll fire 100% and go.

[harroz]

These are Totally inspirational images! The slideshow was awesome and shows just how talented you are over the whole series. awesome photography!

[dou_b_14]

again, 7 is freaking awsome. once and a while an image comes up that makes me drop everything im doing to show everyone around me that image...7 is definitely that image. Incredible....i love it.

[shima]

Wow these are truly stunning, love them all.

[TimTab]

hey, I love them all - just curious for the first dance shot (#10), was that ambient light? video light? or strobe? it seems so amazingly bright for an inside shot - I love it. peace.

[Cheiri]

These are really awesome! I lvoe a lot of them, and some ven look surreal. Amazing shots.

[leninglass]

You getting tired of saying thank you yet? i love your style. Inspiring

[Yeoer]

All great images, 7 gets my vote... superb...

[keegsmeister]

Number 7 took my breath away! Good on you to put in the lens that you use for each shot, great work!

[song4themoon]

Absolutely wonderful work!

[Dorman]

Lloyd, I had to come back for another look at these images - I'm blown away by the set as a whole. I can't help but notice how often you used your UWA's on these images - were you using them close to the 10mm end? Did you find yourself using the UWA's because you were carrying the 24-70 (I don't see your usual 17-55 being used)?

Cheers.

[kasper27f]

WOW i love #7

[picturecrazy]

hey, I love them all - just curious for the first dance shot (#10), was that ambient light? video light? or strobe? it seems so amazingly bright for an inside shot - I love it. peace.

The dance shot was lit with two lights. One on camera, and a slave flash on a pocketwizard held by an assistant.

You getting tired of saying thank you yet? i love your style. Inspiring

lol, nope, not getting tired yet. :)

Lloyd, I had to come back for another look at these images - I'm blown away by the set as a whole. I can't help but notice how often you used your UWA's on these images - were you using them close to the 10mm end? Did you find yourself using the UWA's because you were carrying the 24-70 (I don't see your usual 17-55 being used)?

Cheers.

Hey Brad, most of the images were taken at the 10mm end. The moment in the trees shot was taken at 16mm though as I stuck the 10-22 onto the 1Ds mark III, which is pretty much the same as 10mm on my 40D. I figure if you are going wide, then go W-I-D-E!!!

I used the 17-55 for all the group formals, parts of the reception, some of the portraits, and some of the ceremony. I'm *trying* to learn to like the 24-70L, but it's sure an uphill battle. The range is well suited on a 1Ds though, so I don't hate it quite as much as before... I only hate it's inaccurate focus.

sorry, been away from the office and my online access is severely limited! Thanks for the kind words. :D

[Dorman]

Hey Brad, most of the images were taken at the 10mm end. The moment in the trees shot was taken at 16mm though as I stuck the 10-22 onto the 1Ds mark III, which is pretty much the same as 10mm on my 40D. I figure if you are going wide, then go W-I-D-E!!!

I used the 17-55 for all the group formals, parts of the reception, some of the portraits, and some of the ceremony. I'm *trying* to learn to like the 24-70L, but it's sure an uphill battle. The range is well suited on a 1Ds though, so I don't hate it quite as much as before... I only hate it's inaccurate focus.

sorry, been away from the office and my online access is severely limited! Thanks for the kind words. :D

Thanks for the info Lloyd, I've moved from the brick back to the 17-55 as 24-70 was just a poor range for me on my croppers, I'm sure it's deadly on the 1 series though! I'm selling off a few lesser used items and I'm trying to decide between a nice fast prime for natural shooting, or the Canon 10-22. I've wanted an UWA for a couple of years now as when I'm not shooting for pay I favor landscapes, and seeing your work with UWA for weddings is really inspiring, makes me wonder what creativity it could lend me as well.

[picturecrazy]

Thanks for the info Lloyd, I've moved from the brick back to the 17-55 as 24-70 was just a poor range for me on my croppers, I'm sure it's deadly on the 1 series though! I'm selling off a few lesser used items and I'm trying to decide between a nice fast prime for natural shooting, or the Canon 10-22. I've wanted an UWA for a couple of years now as when I'm not shooting for pay I favor landscapes, and seeing your work with UWA for weddings is really inspiring, makes me wonder what creativity it could lend me as well.

I use my UWA a LOT more than fast primes. But that's just my style. Most people think I'm insane for using the wide as much as I do. And I have to admit, it took a long time to figure out how to do it without making people look too funny or distorted.

Might as well just add, the 17-55 is the bread and butter lens. It gets most of the shots, and does an excellent job. But when you want to get creative, you move away from the bread and butter. And typically, when you post shots, you show the more interesting ones. So don't let the lens list fool you, the 17-55 is a very important lens in my lineup. So important, that I have two of them, even though I have two cameras that it doesn't even fit on! LOL

[da_teacher]

amazing work!

[isla]

hi, your pics are amazing. i esp like 5, 8 and 7 is stunning. also, thanks for sharing your techniques!

[Mark Alexander]

#7 looks like she is flying. Really nice job

[Phil.hearing]

i love the pp on this set!!! great pictures, i would be very happy if these were mine....

[LuckyStar08]

Amazing photography. I love #7. It is phenomenal.