View Full Version : EOS Body-Cap Pinhole attachment - AWESOME!
Deckyon
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 11:28
In searching for the math to create a pinhole camera attachment out of a body cap for a Canon EOS-series camera, I cam across this link. For $15, this company sends a body cap with pinhole lens (variable, nonetheless) with range from f/5.6-f/64 (pinhole) and focus distances from 50cm to infinity.
I was looking at doing a fixed pinhole from a spare body cap and have to go buy a drill bit small enough - almost $10 to get a set, so I think I am going this route. They also have the same thing but with perspective control for $21, and a 10x multiplier for ultra-macro shots for $11.
so for less than $60 you can have a lot of fun with pinhole photography on a digital camera, or regular camera fir that matter...
LOREO Lens in a Cap (http://www.loreo.com/pages/products/loreo_lenscap.html)
LOREO Perspective Control Lens in a Cap (http://www.loreo.com/pages/products/loreo_pccap.html)
LOREO Products Online (http://www.loreo.com/pages/shop/loreo_products_online.html)
I am probably going to buy these. Sound like fun... Have anyone else seen/used any of the Loreno products?
pradeep1
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 11:38
Very nice. I remember one time seeing some pinhole photography by Ansel Adams in a book and always thought how cool it would be to do that.
Good links.
Jon
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 11:39
You'd make a classic pinhole "lens" by dimpling a thin sheet of brass with a needle, taking care not to puncture it - we want good bokeh, don't we? :{)# and then sanding the dimple lightly with a very fine sandpaper until it's just penetrated. Then mount this in your lens cap or whatever (use a 1/4" or so bit).
OviV
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 11:44
What are the benefits of a pinhole camera? Is it DOF?
Ovi
kawter2
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 11:44
any samples?
defordphoto
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 11:58
What are the benefits of a pinhole camera? Is it DOF?
Ovi
Very cheap.
NGrinerPhoto
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 12:00
get a holga for $20
-nick
Jon
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 12:06
get a holga for $20
-nick
'Tain't digital!
Deckyon
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 12:08
any samples?
There are samples on the website.
NGrinerPhoto
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 14:17
'Tain't digital!
true ... but a good time
random side note - jon, you like a few minutes from where i grew up
Jon
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 14:23
random side note - jon, you like a few minutes from where i grew up
Then you haven't been back lately; "a few minutes" around here now is just down the block! :{)#
leony
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 17:54
This is BS. Pinhole really works well ONLY ON VIEW CAMERAS.
This is because the mirror in your SLR takes up too much space, and you end up with a rough approximation of a 40mm lens with f/22. after that you can't see any difference in DOF, so your pinhole is just there to make it darker. With view cameras, you can set the shutter plane VERY CLOSE TO film plane AND since the film is HUGE if compared to 35mm, you get a really wide-angled and tack sharp picture. With view cameras, it's common knowledge that you need to use small apperatures (big numbers) to have any DOF at all.
If you're digital, Pinhole is as bad as it gets. The small apperature is a nightmare for digital sensors. This is why P&S digitals only go to f/8.0 or there abouts. You can clearly see degradation in quality from 10D when shooting at above f/16.
Sorry to burst people's bubble.
kawter2
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 18:30
IMO the samples on there site arent much to speak of
Deckyon
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 19:04
IMO the samples on there site arent much to speak of
Um, pinhole cameras are not the sharpest resolving cameras out there, no matter how they are made.
Seems like a quick, fun way of shooting artsy shots when tired of all the sharp L glass...
blinking8s
28th of December 2004 (Tue), 19:30
i built a pinhole camera once, it was hard to use, but what photos came out in the darkroom has amazing detail
exposingmyself
3rd of April 2005 (Sun), 20:17
brad: it's wonderful to see you thinking beyond the super sharp, large file, low noise digital box. good for you!!! your tips were very helpful. i'm looking into the lens cap for me-self :D .
i'd love to see your images!
here are a few of my favorite pinhole or pinhole like sites. the last one posted is my photography professor:
http://lensbabies.server101.com/phorum/list.php?f=1
http://www.papercams.com/about.html
http://www.wandascott.com/64mm.html
http://www.timedia.com/inprocess/
DocFrankenstein
3rd of April 2005 (Sun), 20:39
This is my try building a pinhole camera.
Very low sharpness obviously. :confused: But hey - you can tilt/shift it no problem. :lol:
nosquare2003
3rd of April 2005 (Sun), 20:52
Have anyone else seen/used any of the Loreno products?
I have one. I'm afraid that I have too many things to play with.
Dante King
3rd of April 2005 (Sun), 22:29
brad: it's wonderful to see you thinking beyond the super sharp, large file, low noise digital box. good for you!!! your tips were very helpful. i'm looking into the lens cap for me-self :D .
i'd love to see your images!
here are a few of my favorite pinhole or pinhole like sites. the last one posted is my photography professor:
http://lensbabies.server101.com/phorum/list.php?f=1
http://www.papercams.com/about.html
http://www.wandascott.com/64mm.html
http://www.timedia.com/inprocess/
Thanks for the links. Very interesting!
Jackal
3rd of April 2005 (Sun), 22:45
I made a pinhole camera out of a shoebox when I was like 12. I developed the pictures in a darkroom and they came out "ok." Too bad I don't have them anymore =(
Bruce Hamilton
4th of April 2005 (Mon), 13:40
Suppose you purchase a Loreo lens and slap it on your SLR... When you look through the viewfinder, what are you going to see? Will your image fill the viewfinder? How sharp will that image be? Your lens is the most important part of the camera, you get what you pay for...
PacAce
4th of April 2005 (Mon), 13:59
In searching for the math to create a pinhole camera attachment out of a body cap for a Canon EOS-series camera, I cam across this link. For $15, this company sends a body cap with pinhole lens (variable, nonetheless) with range from f/5.6-f/64 (pinhole) and focus distances from 50cm to infinity.
I was looking at doing a fixed pinhole from a spare body cap and have to go buy a drill bit small enough - almost $10 to get a set, so I think I am going this route. They also have the same thing but with perspective control for $21, and a 10x multiplier for ultra-macro shots for $11.
so for less than $60 you can have a lot of fun with pinhole photography on a digital camera, or regular camera fir that matter...
LOREO Lens in a Cap (http://www.loreo.com/pages/products/loreo_lenscap.html)
LOREO Perspective Control Lens in a Cap (http://www.loreo.com/pages/products/loreo_pccap.html)
LOREO Products Online (http://www.loreo.com/pages/shop/loreo_products_online.html)
I am probably going to buy these. Sound like fun... Have anyone else seen/used any of the Loreno products?
Technically, this Loreo thing really doesn't make the camera into a pin-hold camera, does it? It's got a lens attached. A real pin-hold camera doesn't use a lens, just a tiny hold for light to pass through. :confused:
PacAce
4th of April 2005 (Mon), 14:04
This is BS. Pinhole really works well ONLY ON VIEW CAMERAS.
This is because the mirror in your SLR takes up too much space, and you end up with a rough approximation of a 40mm lens with f/22. after that you can't see any difference in DOF, so your pinhole is just there to make it darker. With view cameras, you can set the shutter plane VERY CLOSE TO film plane AND since the film is HUGE if compared to 35mm, you get a really wide-angled and tack sharp picture. With view cameras, it's common knowledge that you need to use small apperatures (big numbers) to have any DOF at all.
If you're digital, Pinhole is as bad as it gets. The small apperature is a nightmare for digital sensors. This is why P&S digitals only go to f/8.0 or there abouts. You can clearly see degradation in quality from 10D when shooting at above f/16.
Sorry to burst people's bubble.
??? ??? ???
"mirror in your SLR takes up too much space"? ??? ???
"shutter plane very close to film plane"? ??? ???
"since the film is HUGE if compared to 35mm, you get a really wide-angled and tack sharp picture" ? ??? ???
:confused: :confused: :confused:
hecya
2nd of January 2006 (Mon), 10:37
You are right Leony. I just made a pinhole around 0.3 mm for a focal length of 48 mm and the results are quite soft. You can the thread here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=124751
PaulB
2nd of January 2006 (Mon), 10:44
"his is BS. Pinhole really works well ONLY ON VIEW CAMERAS."
Come on, really............what adownbeat attitude
This is for FUN for heavens' sake' - lighten up for the New Year.
scr7b
2nd of January 2006 (Mon), 14:48
Thanks for the link, I just ordered one of the "PC" shift models... Less than 15 GBP for a new toy! I won't expect award-winning sharpness, but I'll have some fun with it!
ahchar
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 09:37
this is just for fun~ give it a break
drPheta
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 10:14
In high school, we just took a box, gaffers tape, put some opaque parchment with a pinhole, some foil, and got ourselves a nice pinhole camera for $5. Haha, but our photos weren't award winning at all.
Fun, though.
René Damkot
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 11:03
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/Canon_1ds_pinhole.html
rx7speed
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 11:19
Suppose you purchase a Loreo lens and slap it on your SLR... When you look through the viewfinder, what are you going to see? Will your image fill the viewfinder? How sharp will that image be? Your lens is the most important part of the camera, you get what you pay for...
that's kind of the idea of a pinhole I thought was a cheap low budget camera that while it has it's quirks and lack of sharpness brings on a whole new look to the image. kind of like the holga, or lomo cameras that are out there.
a pinhole isn't about getting L quality images which by your post is what I'm taking it you think people are expecting out of something like this.
and btw you don't always get what you pay sometimes you get far more other times you get far less, and sometimes you get something all together different. in a situation like this if your looking for images that have that look where they came from a lomo camera would you buy a 70-200mm lens for the job?
ralff
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 12:12
as we get older some people forget what it is like to just have fun and loose all their sense of curiosity....don't let em rain on your parade, just have some fun...:lol:
Synenergy52
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 12:52
"Makes any SLR small enough to put in your pocket!" Yeah try putting a 5D in your pocket.
ejicon
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 17:29
i built a pinhole camera once, it was hard to use, but what photos came out in the darkroom has amazing detail
I made one as well in 10th grade out of cardboard, tape and black and white unprocessed photo paper. Definitely some fun times with that. I wonder if I can find the shots I took. Hmm.
TeamSpeed
18th of February 2009 (Wed), 17:37
as we get older some people forget what it is like to just have fun and loose all their sense of curiosity....don't let em rain on your parade, just have some fun...:lol:
This thread is 2 years old, ain't nobody raining on anybody's parade anymore, that rain has long since dried up. ;)
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