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_aravena
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:51
So I was on my honeymoon this past week in St. Augustine and I noticed that, given this maybe the worse ratio ever given, 3 out of 5 people had an DSLR. Most were Rebels or D40s with the occasional xxD series and I even saw a few gripped (idk why I singled this out, just seemed interesting because what standard consumer knows of grips). Seemed like everyone had one now! OMG! I was really surprised how the market has turned and no longer do you get the looks when you have your own big ole' camera out.
So yes, I felt a little forgotten, until the 70-200 or 430EX came out showing that I Mean Business. I just found it very interesting to finally go to a tourist area and see what has become of the tourist camera. I still saw many super zooms, although no S5's only quite a bit of Fuji's, Panasonics, and a few Sony's. Then there were the SX100's and A720's.
What was the best was the people shooting with...crap, forgot the names. The old screw in lens SLR's. *bangs head* And a few film P&S.
So, yeah, just something I noticed. By the way, this was only when we were out and about, I did not forget the importance of the trip, just another thing to list under, "You Know Your Photography Crazy When..."
OdiN1701
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 18:01
There was a bridesmaid at the wedding I did last weekend with a gripped XTi.
AnthonyLin
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 18:21
Well, now digital SLRs are relatively affordable. With computers, blogs, email, facebook, flickr, photoshop, iPhoto, etc., many people carry a digital camera, and SLR's offer much more in image quality and control. My friends nowadays ask me to send them pics of parties so they can put them up on their blog, or ask me to send photos of them to put as their facebook profile.
DocFrankenstein
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 19:07
What did you expect at 500 bucks per DSLR kit?
Jamie Holladay
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 19:12
What did you expect at 500 bucks per DSLR kit?
True.
neumanns
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 20:06
Screw in crap...Theres a couple of those "crap" lenses that are high on my list.
_aravena
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 20:20
I never called them crap, it was an expression because I forgot the term.
My reasoning to teach English. :p
dave kadolph
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 20:25
I showed up at my nephews wedding with a gripped 40D/brick/580EXll on a Custom Brackets Mini-RC
Some habits die hard--If there is an event it always seems there is a camera in my hand. ;)
_aravena
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 20:27
There was a guy walking around downtown with what looked like a CB bracket, 17-40 or 24-70L (need to examine the pic I took) flash (obviously), and 1D series just carrying it by the bracket. Tell ya what, if it was NYC or...seriously I'd think anyone that's a easy snatch and run with several grand worth.
BottomBracket
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 20:52
........What was the best was the people shooting with...crap, forgot the names. The old screw in lens SLR's. *bangs head* .......
Pentax Spotmatic?
_aravena
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 20:56
T mount! Kept thinking FD but I knew it wasn't that. Now that's out of the way.
Aaagogo
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:10
I shot this
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8953/img7512vu3.jpg
I wanted to tell him, your fingers are blocking the flash, that is being diffused by something, but i didn't cause I was working
and this
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1475/img6780hq9.jpg
But they were both nice enough to stay out of my way
while I was shooting this
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/852/img6962gv1.jpg
The male guest with the N was hanging around, and asking me how to get a silhouette shot. He says his flash keeps popping up each time he tried. I just smiled and very politely said, "It's trade secret, if I told you, then I would lose my job won't I...
JWright
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:17
The last two years at the San Diego Red bull Air races, one of the Red Bull girls was walking around with a 70-200f2.8 IS mounted to a 1DmkII. It was her own camera.. I asked.
scotteisenphotography
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:19
Yeah, I know what you mean. There was a guy at the event I covered yesterday with a 1ds Mark 3 and a 24-70 2.8L on his camera. I was shooting with my 1D Mark 2 and 5D with various lenses (300 2.8L IS, 400 2.8L IS, 70-200, 24-70 and so on) and he came over cause he didn't know how the camera worked. he said "I just got this as a gift, can you help me figure it out" I was about offer him a trade with my 5D since it's "easier" to use =]
DocFrankenstein
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:19
There was a guy walking around downtown with what looked like a CB bracket, 17-40 or 24-70L (need to examine the pic I took) flash (obviously), and 1D series just carrying it by the bracket. Tell ya what, if it was NYC or...seriously I'd think anyone that's a easy snatch and run with several grand worth.
I dunno. I found NYC quite safe. The bells didn't go off once while I was there...
The only thing that kinda scared me was at the staten island terminal. It was something like: "Beyond this line you're considered to be a breach to security". I felt like I'd get shot at if I were to cross.
Maureen Souza
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:20
We just got off a cruise and it was amazing how many DSLR's were being used. Even little kids running around with a Nikon or Rebel.....
DocFrankenstein
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:22
Now it's not the medium. Not the equpment.
Now it's truly the talent that sets you apart.
I like it.
Jamie Holladay
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 23:23
Now it's not the medium. Not the equpment.
Now it's truly the talent that sets you apart.
I like it.
That is a very accurate statement.
eddarr
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 23:36
Everyone has to start somewhere. If it wasn't for those inexpensive consumer dSLR's I would not have gotten into photography (many of you probably wish I hadn't:)). Most people will start with a Rebel or D40. Maybe they actually learn how to use it or maybe they just leave it on the green box.
99% of these people will never do anything to take money out of a pro's pocket. They just want more than a typical P&S can give them. Like not waiting 2 minutes for it to start up or 4 seconds for the shutter to work. Seriously, those two reasons are the only justification I had to purchase an XTi.
eddarr
20th of June 2008 (Fri), 23:39
Now it's not the medium. Not the equpment.
Now it's truly the talent that sets you apart.
I like it.
I like it too. But hasn't it always been this way? There may be more equipment around now but it's always taken talent. I also think that the really good photographers actually benefit from this. There is so much crap around and more people are better educated. It may actually allow a skilled photographer a better and bigger audience.
cory1848
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 00:45
I find that most people buy this gear strictly on advertising and having a sales guy "help" them choose a "good" camera. 9 times out of 10, its always set on P mode and no ones knows what the other modes do. They all magically think that a more expensive camera takes better pictures...
DocFrankenstein
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 01:15
I find that most people buy this gear strictly on advertising and having a sales guy "help" them choose a "good" camera. 9 times out of 10, its always set on P mode and no ones knows what the other modes do. They all magically think that a more expensive camera takes better pictures...
Oooh... the resentment.
If they're wrong, then the opposite must be true.
Meaning cheaper cameras produce better pictures that expensive cameras.
So, Cory. Is it true that cheaper cameras make better pictures? Do you really believe that? Do explain.
Why did you buy that 30D with all those lenses? Why aren't you shooting with a cheaper camera?
dave kadolph
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 05:55
They all magically think that a more expensive camera takes better pictures...
Now that's an odd coincidence. The pro's second shooter at our nephews wedding was shooting with a PowerShot a530.
For the money they paid I expected something else.
I was unsure of the reason at the time-- but now I understand.:D
yogestee
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 06:21
So I was on my honeymoon this past week in St. Augustine and I noticed that, given this maybe the worse ratio ever given, 3 out of 5 people had an DSLR. Most were Rebels or D40s with the occasional xxD series and I even saw a few gripped (idk why I singled this out, just seemed interesting because what standard consumer knows of grips). Seemed like everyone had one now! OMG! I was really surprised how the market has turned and no longer do you get the looks when you have your own big ole' camera out.
So yes, I felt a little forgotten, until the 70-200 or 430EX came out showing that I Mean Business. I just found it very interesting to finally go to a tourist area and see what has become of the tourist camera. I still saw many super zooms, although no S5's only quite a bit of Fuji's, Panasonics, and a few Sony's. Then there were the SX100's and A720's.
What was the best was the people shooting with...crap, forgot the names. The old screw in lens SLR's. *bangs head* And a few film P&S.
So, yeah, just something I noticed. By the way, this was only when we were out and about, I did not forget the importance of the trip, just another thing to list under, "You Know Your Photography Crazy When..."
Owning a Canon or Nikon DSLR doesn't give you any kind of exclusivity..Here in Vientiane Laos I have seen a young Buddhist monk with what looked like a 20D or 30D with 24-70mm F/2.8L attached ( didn't get a close look)..The street photographers here use XT, XTi and various Nikon DSLRs,,for around a dollar they will take your photo and print you a copy on the spot..Remember I'm taking about the poorest country in Asia..
Shutterbug Doug
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 06:38
DSLR's in the US have become a status symbol more than anything IMO. It's what they see the "pros" use so it's gonna make them look and shoot like a pro....until they get home and realize their expensive camera is making them no better a photographer than they were with their Cyber-Shot. But they'll still tote it around for the appearance....lol, always set on the green box.
I didn't say ALL I was saying MOST people that have them.....
Some people do actually take the time to learn about the equipment and do get great shots. But that's the exception, not the norm.
At least in my experiences.
And you should have asked the guy with the mkIII if the camera came with a manual.
yogestee
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 06:59
DSLR's in the US have become a status symbol more than anything IMO. It's what they see the "pros" use so it's gonna make them look and shoot like a pro....until they get home and realize their expensive camera is making them no better a photographer than they were with their Cyber-Shot. But they'll still tote it around for the appearance....lol, always set on the green box.
I didn't say ALL I was saying MOST people that have them.....
Some people do actually take the time to learn about the equipment and do get great shots. But that's the exception, not the norm.
At least in my experiences.
And you should have asked the guy with the mkIII if the camera came with a manual.
Doug,,,have a look through this forum,,you will find more viewers in the Equipment Talk Section than the Photo Sharing Section..What does that tell you?? Is everyone so wrapped up in talking about who has the biggest this or best that than actually looking at photographs and appreciating the craft??
Shutterbug Doug
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 07:06
I'm not certain what you're driving at but if you're saying my opinion is wrong then it's good to know yours is right. I'll track you down next time I need one.
yogestee
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 07:12
I'm not certain what you're driving at but if you're saying my opinion is wrong then it's good to know yours is right. I'll track you down next time I need one.
Nothing like that Doug..What I'm saying we are often getting too wrapped up in our tools and forgetting about our art..
Shutterbug Doug
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 07:25
Roger, I got it that time. The main reason I cruise these areas and not the photo sharing section so much is I'm here to learn to be a better artist by learning more on how to use my tools. All I was saying is the majority of the people you see with DSLRs in the US would be in the sharing section getting back slapped for that one great shot while I'm here trying to learn how to get 50 of them. How about them apples!;)
**EDIT** And the equipment talk section is a good place for me to help ensure I'm getting a good piece of equipment that will help me and not hinder me.
Curtis N
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 07:26
Is it true that cheaper cameras make better pictures?In some cases, yes.
The greater DOF inherent to the small sensors of P&S cameras makes focusing less critical and aperture choice less important.
This forum is full of threads from people who upgraded from P&S to DSLR and are find that their pictures are worse, and they don't know why.
Green box or not, DSLRs are more difficult to use, regardless what Canon's marketing department says. Those who aren't willing to dedicate some time to learning photography are making the wrong choice in buying one.
yogestee
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 07:41
Who's Woger?? Sorry,,you have to be Python fan to appreciate that one!!
Shutterbug Doug
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 07:43
Are you here for an argument?
A little Python back at ya!
Mike R
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 08:15
Now it's not the medium. Not the equpment.
Now it's truly the talent that sets you apart.
I like it.
How true!
fxk
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 12:42
Speak softly, and carry a big lens.
griptape
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 14:07
The male guest with the N was hanging around, and asking me how to get a silhouette shot. He says his flash keeps popping up each time he tried.
Now THAT is freakin' hilarious.
Maureen Souza
21st of June 2008 (Sat), 14:12
Now it's not the medium. Not the equpment.
Now it's truly the talent that sets you apart.
I like it.
I learned something important on our cruise last week. I suck at photography when I've been drinking.............;);)
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