Regarding G2's crack

[Braveheart]

I know this is old news for most, but I just recently heard about the cracks, and am not happy at all, might return the camera for a refund and get something else, no G2, sorry but for this much money, I want the camera to be PERFECT.


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[G2Jim]

If I'm not mistaken, you can return the camera and get a replacement without a crack. If the outlet where you got it won't, I know Canon will. It would be too bad to give up on the camera just for that, but I know what you mean about expecting the best for that price.

[Braveheart]

Yes, but the ratailer will only let me return or exchange within one month, and most cracks apear later on, after a few months.

I dont think Canon would give me a new camera, I think they only fix the crack by changing the back part or something like that, and paying one thousand for a camera only to have it fixed later on, I dont know if it's worth it.

I dont know what to do.

[Gibbs]

You could get an S40/45. Great camera, great body, that takes great pictures. It is particularly well known for being a G2 disguised as a 'point and shoot'.

All the S40/30 users are smiling. Hope you have a sense of humour?

[Braveheart]

Gibbs wrote:
You could get an S40/45.


I really dislike small point and shoot cameras especially S40/45, I love the way G2 is, other than the crack problem, it's good.

[Gibbs]

You have a dilemma.

Canon will have sorted this out in the G3. Maybe you can get the dealer to meet you on an 'arrangement' that would get you one.

It may also be worth establishing whether the 'black body' has this problem. If not, maybe that's a solution.

When all else fails - go and take some amazing pictures. That is what you paid your money for and that is what the G2 can do.

C'ya

[Mind Socket]

Braveheart, no camera will be perfect, and unless you have the crack and it bothers you, forget about it. I have a tiny crack and just took 400Mb of photos, no problems.

I understand your wanting it to be perfect, but is it really worth returning your camera for a defect it doesn't have?

Don't believe everything you read. Some cameras were cracked in-store.

[dn7elson]

Gibbs wrote:It may also be worth establishing whether the 'black body' has this problem.

The Canon bulletin regarding the crack on some models applies to both the regular and black models.

I am wondering whether it is related to the camera strap mount that is adjacent to the crack location. I have used a wrist strap that connects to the tripod threads. I find it much more useful and don't risk a camera drop no matter what I am doing. It only falls the length of the wrist strap; about 8 inches.

I have never used the strap and don't have the crack. Coincidence or relationship...I do not know.

[Braveheart]

Black G2 is virtually impossible to find in Toronto, I looked at quite a few places and no one has them.

[Morden]

dn7elson, I would rate my experience similar to your own, in that I too have not witnessed this 'crack' on my G2 (where is it usually observed?), and I too use a wrirst strap - on each of my cameras. I will not take a camera out of it's case or bag until I have my hand through the wrist strap.

But then, I am unusually clumsy. :)

Neil D.

[Gibbs]

Hi ya

It does seem to be a pressure problem. Somebody posted some pictures of what the Canon techies did to the inside of the body when they fixed the problem. They replaced the cracked part and them quite literally chomped away some of the plastic at the point where the back and side plate junction. Not a pretty piece of work - probably used a nail clippers. So they are obviously relieving the pressure by doing that.

Maybe you have the solution.

[Mind Socket]

The theories on the crack have been discussed to death.

Here are some conclusions that won't change your life in any way shape or form (can you tell I'm sick of this issue?) ...
1. The crack potentially affects all G2 models (black or champagne) manufactured before the problem was acknowledged.
2. Pressure on the wrist strap eyelets was not correlated with the problem.
3. New G2s off the shelf did exhibit the problem
4. Canon will fix it.
5. The crack doesn't affect the operation of the camera in any way, shape or form.
6. Not all cameras have or will necessarily develop the crack
7. The problem does not affect any particular range of serial numbers, regions, firmware versions, dealers etc
8. Getting addicted to crack is very bad for you. Stop worrying about it and take some photos.

:)

[Morden]

Here are some conclusions that won't change your life in any way shape or form (can you tell I'm sick of this issue?) ...
9. This problem is, in general, unrelated to the 1965 Science Fiction movie, "Crack in the World".

Neil D.

[Gibbs]

It's not an issue. Its just something frivolous to talk about. Keeps the campers happy.

[dialdn]

Mine has "the crack". It's about 2 mm long right now.

I am thinking of not sending it back yet. I have read some stories about problems in sending the camera back.

We all paid alot for this camera but I don't want to be without a camera for a couple of months or chance it coming back with other issues.

Dialdn

[Morden]

Your plan sounds reasonable, dialdn; unless you view your G2 as a piece of art, ignore the silly crack and continue to use your great camera to take great photos.

If it isn't broke, don't fix it. :)

Neil D.

[dialdn]

Exactly. This camera is not a piece of art but I hope to create some. I bought the extended warranty and I have also only had it 2 months so lots of time.

This camera rocks and I would buy it again. I did extensive research and knew about the crack before purchase. I am using it connected to a telescope for some excellent close-ups and just bought a 420EX. Picking up an 11 by 14 print tomorrow which I am sure will turn out great!

Mike (aka Dialdn)

[Braveheart]

Well, just to let everybody know, I returned my G2 to the store and got my money back.

Not only the crack, but I didnt like the picture quality it produced, and am going to stay away from Digital cameras for the time being because they seem to have a LONG way to go before they start making good pictures.

Obviously 4 Megapixels is not enought to make even decent pictures, so I'll stick with my film camera till digital cameras start selling cheap and with at leats 8 Megapixels, at least.

Thanks all for your help.

Cheers.

[canchi]

Braveheart wrote:
am going to stay away from Digital cameras for the time being because they seem to have a LONG way to go before they start making good pictures.

Obviously 4 Megapixels is not enought to make even decent pictures,

I'm sorry Braveheart I dont agree with you on both points. The G2 is an excellent camera with or without the crack; usually it is the person behind the camera who is to be blamed rather than the camera itself when snaps are out of focus! 4MP gives you excellent pictures, sometimes I find they are a tad better than film cameras.
Peace ...O Fainthearted One.....

Canchi

[mjmcgarry]

I believe our young Braveheart lacks the virtue of patience.

I too disagree with his assesment:
Not only the crack, but I didnt like the picture quality it produced, and am going to stay away from Digital cameras for the time being because they seem to have a LONG way to go before they start making good pictures.

I have printed out a couple of pictures taken with my G2 as 8x10s and practically everyone is surprised when I tell them that I printed it out with my color ink jet printer. They usually believe that the picture was taken with a film camera and the print was chemically processed.

As a computer programmer, and as someone who knows something about computers [the two do not go hand in hand], I will say that most problems people encounter are what we call operator error. I know this from personal experience because I too have been guilty of it myself - even when running my own code! This is mainly a result of a lack of experience and sometimes the lack of patience to learn the product. Operator error can also be the result of simply being impatient when the knowledge and skills are there.

When young Braveheart learns patience, then he too may realize that the G2 is great camera capable of outstanding pictures. If he is after perfection, then he will never find it since nothing on the earth is perfect.

[Braveheart]

"Young" Braveheart?

And how old might you be, OH THE WIZE ONE?


If I wanted to "print" the pictures I took with my EX digital camera, then I wouldnt buy digital, I would use FILM camera.

The pics look like crap on my monitor, and not only the pictures I took, but the pictures taken with the same camera by people who are experienced.

I trust my eyes, rather than your words.


Do not cream your pants because I dont like the camera you like and because I am not happy with picture quality most digital cameras produce.

[mjmcgarry]

I'm sorry. Young and Angry Braveheart, then.

I don't care whether you like the G2 or not. But after reading several of your postings, you come across as being impatient. And impatience is generally, but I will admint not always, a sign of youth. I consider anyone born after 1980 to be young. Other would consider me to be young since I was born in the mid '60s.

As for the quality of the G2, I simply disagree with your assesment. My father, who has been serious about photography for over 40 years, beleives the G2 is a very good camera.

The basic meaning of my previous post is that your demeanor from all your previous posts show impatience. I only suggest that if you become more patient, your own [and valid] opinion may change.

As for your monitor, as I don't know the specs, I will simply suggest you upgrade.

[Braveheart]

Most pictures I took with my G2 were all in "auto" mode, and I waited for the focusing to turn green and then clicked the pictures.

I wish you were here on my computer to see what I am talking about man, even after looking at pictures taken by other users I came to a conclusion I didnt like the quality, not just for G2, but nearly all other digital cameras.

Like I said, it could be my monitor or my video card, but I doubt it.

Yes, I am impatient sometimes, but still I think that a camera such as G2 when shot in "auto" mode and properly focused (green light) should make good images, at least good in my opinion.

I am 23 years old, soon to be 24.

[Mind Socket]

Braveheart wrote:
Well, just to let everybody know, I returned my G2 to the store and got my money back.

That's a shame, it seemed like you were beginning to get the hang of it.

Not only the crack, but I didnt like the picture quality it produced, and am going to stay away from Digital cameras for the time being because they seem to have a LONG way to go before they start making good pictures.

Yours had a crack? Tell me, yes or no? I guess it might have been ironically wise to return it after foolishly not checking about warranty. As for picture quality, few people report the same problem, and many sites prove the picture quality of the G2 to my eyes. Perhaps there is something else that has "a LONG way to go before they start making good pictures".

Obviously 4 Megapixels is not enought to make even decent pictures

Megapixel, shmegapixel. I've seen some great photos taken with 2 megapixel cams, disposable cams, and to a lesser degree, even webcams! Don't blame the pixel count, there's a lot more to it than that, and most of the factors aren't related to the camera itself.

Thanks all for your help.

What can I say, we tried. :)

All the best with your film cam (seriously). I hope you find what you're looking for someday.

[Sputnik]

G2 is a pretty good camera ... its totally strange that someone will return it even when he has not explored the full potential of the camera and is more concern about the specs and the faults of the camera... all cameras in the market are not perfect... in fact... we all learn to work around problems to come up with a solution... that probably how it works in a non perfect environment... besides .. if everything works "perfectly" we'll all be having just one camera ... wearing the same clothes ... and look alike... aww that'll be boring ...

anyway... we all do what we can with our limited resources... we'd all want to get the new 11 mega pixel camera in the market... but then again ... who wants to pay that kind of money.... it all boils down to pure economics if u ask me...

and besides ... its no use getting personal ... its just a camera .. :) ...

cheers...

[iDan]

Braveheart wrote:


Obviously 4 Megapixels is not enought to make even decent pictures, so I'll stick with my film camera till digital cameras start selling cheap and with at leats 8 Megapixels, at least.


If I wanted to "print" the pictures I took with my EX digital camera, then I wouldnt buy digital, I would use FILM camera.

The pics look like crap on my monitor


You want more than 4 Megapixels for seeing your pictures on your monitor? How many pixels do you have on your monitor?

iDan