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royv
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 10:49
Apparently Canon announced a new lens: The Canon EF-S 18-200mm F 3.5-5.6 IS.
According to this (http://www.fotokonijnenberg.nl/news.php?news_id=1283) Dutch Onlineshop.

It says the long awaitened lens will be released around September this year.
Further specifications, images and pricing is not yet available.

LightRules
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 10:54
There's a post of it in the Rumors section. Still awaiting Canon's actual announcement.

Nick_C
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 11:00
No doubt retaliation to Sigmas 18-200 ;-)

LightRules
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 11:07
No doubt retaliation to Sigmas 18-200 ;-)

I'm in the camp that says Canon needs to come out with this lens. Nikon has their 18-200 VR, Tamron their 18-200 and 18-250 lenses, and Sigma their 18-200 and 18-200 OS and now 18-125 OS HSM. Canon has nothing (currently) in the APS-C "stabilized" superzoom category.

If this rumor is true, it's about time. I do hope Canon puts ring HSM into it with FTM. That would be the only thing that makes me consider swapping out my 18-200 OS. Pricing will be interesting too.

Nick_C
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 11:28
I'm in the camp that says Canon needs to come out with this lens. Nikon has their 18-200 VR, Tamron their 18-200 and 18-250 lenses, and Sigma their 18-200 and 18-200 OS and now 18-125 OS HSM. Canon has nothing (currently) in the APS-C "stabilized" superzoom category.

If this rumor is true, it's about time. I do hope Canon puts ring HSM into it with FTM. That would be the only thing that makes me consider swapping out my 18-200 OS. Pricing will be interesting too.

I doubt that very much, they may suprise us all but im thinking it will be similar to their 55-250IS, same "kit lens" build & just another average lens, nothing that will make any of us shout from the rooftops :p

BUT, they may suprise us with a peach, but im thinking it will be more of a lemon :D

LightRules
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 15:02
I doubt that very much, they may suprise us all but im thinking it will be similar to their 55-250IS, same "kit lens" build & just another average lens, nothing that will make any of us shout from the rooftops :p

I think they will put it in, at least along the same lines as their EFS + ring HSM + FTM lenses like the 10-22, 17-55, 17-85, and 60 Macro. Nikon has theirs with SW units, Canon should do the same.

Nick_C
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 17:18
I just have a funny feeling its going to be exactly like the 18-55IS & 55-250IS, just a superzoom instead.. but hey im probably wrong ;-)

LightRules
28th of June 2008 (Sat), 17:29
but hey im probably wrong ;-)

That's what I'm counting on :lol:

Nick_C
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 03:35
That's what I'm counting on :lol:

lol.. I just cant see them putting ring USM into that type of lens, unless of course its going to be a much higher quality & higher priced lens than what I imagine it to be..

I hope I am wrong ;)

sneakerpimp
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 12:11
I hope I am wrong ;)

i think it's design and price would be similar to Nikon or Sigma's 18-200, but not as poor as Tamron, Sony or Canon's 28-200.

Nick_C
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 12:47
i think it's design and price would be similar to Nikon or Sigma's 18-200, but not as poor as Tamron, Sony or Canon's 28-200.

Probably, that's why I cant see Canon putting Ring USM on a lens of that class, in the same way Sigma havent put HSM on their 18-200OS

sth_
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 13:05
Please not another el-cheapo lens without ring-USM. :( :( :(

I really hope this is a false rumor or at least that this lens will be introduced next to an updated 17-85mm or a 30mm f/1.4.

If it turns out to be true, I really hope that it wont be just another extreme superzoom with lots of distortions, "strange" resolution characteristics and ugly bokeh.

Nick_C
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 13:29
Please not another el-cheapo lens without ring-USM. :( :( :(

I really hope this is a false rumor or at least that this lens will be introduced next to an updated 17-85mm or a 30mm f/1.4.

If it turns out to be true, I really hope that it wont be just another extreme superzoom with lots of distortions, "strange" resolution characteristics and ugly bokeh.

All superzooms come with strange resolution characteristics & other flaws, but they are all about compromise, sure they will never match a decent L lens collection, BUT they sure are great as a travel lens with all that range available at the flick of a wrist :D

Although none of these are any good to me as they are not FF compatible, although there is the Tamron 28-300, but im waiting for one with L quality optics (I may have a long wait) lol

sth_
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 16:33
All superzooms come with strange resolution characteristics & other flaws, but they are all about compromise, sure they will never match a decent L lens collection, BUT they sure are great as a travel lens with all that range available at the flick of a wrist :D
Yeah, but a 18-125mm would be enough for that purpose and probably allow for a bit higher quality optics.

Anyway: The big question is: Will the 18-200 replace the 17-85 or will they coexist? And if they do: Will Canon update the 17-85? I mean the lens is quite okay, except for the wide-angle performance where it is beaten even by the Tamron 18-250 "Hyperzoom".

but im waiting for one with L quality optics (I may have a long wait) lol
-> Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 USM L IS

Nick_C
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 16:56
Yeah, but a 18-125mm would be enough for that purpose and probably allow for a bit higher quality optics.

Anyway: The big question is: Will the 18-200 replace the 17-85 or will they coexist? And if they do: Will Canon update the 17-85? I mean the lens is quite okay, except for the wide-angle performance where it is beaten even by the Tamron 18-250 "Hyperzoom".


-> Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 USM L IS

Im waiting for a decent L superzoom ;) that lens is generally not very well liked.

xMClass
29th of June 2008 (Sun), 19:42
If this is true, I will most likely be picking one up come release day.

Pete-eos
30th of June 2008 (Mon), 07:53
Count me in on this one!

tkoutdoor
30th of June 2008 (Mon), 09:56
All superzooms come with strange resolution characteristics & other flaws, but they are all about compromise, sure they will never match a decent L lens collection, BUT they sure are great as a travel lens with all that range available at the flick of a wrist :D

Although none of these are any good to me as they are not FF compatible, although there is the Tamron 28-300, but im waiting for one with L quality optics (I may have a long wait) lol
Canon 28-300 L with IS. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/319784-USA/Canon_9322A002_28_300mm_f_3_5_5_6L_IS_USM.html

FF compatible as well. You wanted L quality and you have it. No more waiting! Tell us how you like it when you get one. :-)

tkoutdoor
30th of June 2008 (Mon), 09:59
Im waiting for a decent L superzoom ;) that lens is generally not very well liked.4.5 star rating at B&H, you were expecting a 5 star rating before it merits your attention? ;)

Nick_C
30th of June 2008 (Mon), 10:12
4.5 star rating at B&H, you were expecting a 5 star rating before it merits your attention? ;)

Well im unaware of the ratings on B&H being in the UK & all.

I dont know, I just have a feeling its a little outdated now, in need of a revamp, if Canon were to bring out an updated version with the latest 4 stop IS rather than the 2 stop it has, it might be worthy of a look, but I wouldnt pay that price for the spec it has at the moment no...

I also cant get on with the push & pull design, I much prefer a zoom ring, I tried one once (not this lens) & I just cant get any real accuracy with the push & pull.

Neilyb
2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 04:08
I'd love this lens but I don't own it because it is way too pricey, way too heavy and large to be a walkaround lens for travel. I like push pull though.

Nick_C
2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 06:49
I'd love this lens but I don't own it because it is way too pricey, way too heavy and large to be a walkaround lens for travel. I like push pull though.

Yes im sure it doesnt have to be quite so large, its a little too dated for me to spend that much money on too, I might consider it if they bring out a new version with 4 stop IS, but 2 stop IS for me is a downgrade on the lenses I already own.

sebr
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 11:29
Interesting travel option. I am waiting to see how it performs and how good it is built...

Woodja
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 21:21
count me in as well i need a easy all around lens.... any price speculations i know the nikkor 18-200 VR is like 800+.... maybe close to the same?

ekie
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 07:41
count me in as well i need a easy all around lens.... any price speculations i know the nikkor 18-200 VR is like 800+.... maybe close to the same?

nikon one is about $680 on amazon now and sigma is around $450 .. i guess once the price settles, eprhaps the canon one will be in the 500s or low 600s? just an assumption :D

Southswede
30th of July 2008 (Wed), 16:32
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08073001Tamron18270.asp

Ooooppppss. This will give them a run for the money.....

Pete-eos
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 07:44
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08073001Tamron18270.asp

Ooooppppss. This will give them a run for the money.....

Doubtful, I can't see 15x having the same IQ and should the Canon be f/4-f/5.6 I know where my money would rather be, plus other possible features like USM etc.

Nick_C
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 07:49
15x zoom is mighty impressive, but I think it would be pushing it to the limits, I think IQ would suffer too much, IQ is already quite compromised with the 18-200 lenses around, Tamron say about high res performance but when you eventually see some test crops its usually smeared details, but I understand some prefer the versatility over ultimate IQ, they certainly do score highly in that respect.

MLphoto
11th of August 2008 (Mon), 11:31
This will be the great walk around lens for sure, but still im wondering how the quality will be on the far zoom

_aravena
14th of August 2008 (Thu), 14:46
Needs USM!!! Ugh...or else it'll still be useless, IMO>

The 28-300 is no different than the 100-400 really in size. It's a great lens, used it a lot. Not too bad as a walk around but awesome as a travel lens. Team it up with a UWA and you're set!

Southswede
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:50
Doubtful, I can't see 15x having the same IQ and should the Canon be f/4-f/5.6 I know where my money would rather be, plus other possible features like USM etc.

If the QI is the same as the 18-250, I have no doubts it will be great! I regret selling my 18-250. From 24-105, my 18-250 was better than the 24-105 f4 is L I had!

Lore
3rd of September 2008 (Wed), 11:04
I was reviewing lenses, saw on canon's site they just came out with this one... course when I googled it saw this thread ;)

Anyone pick one up yet? Online stores, seems to be priced at $699 consistantly. Lower than I thought it'd be...

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon_18-200_3p5-5p6_is/

_aravena
3rd of September 2008 (Wed), 11:15
It's priced right where I was afraid it'd be. Oh well. Without USM it's not worth noting unless you need on then...there's plenty to choose from now.

Lore
3rd of September 2008 (Wed), 14:31
I've been looking at the reviews on Sigma's 18-200... it really doesnt read all that bad... The price difference is pretty significant. Clearly tho, I wouldnt want it to be one of those 'you get what you pay for' :oops:

hk300
8th of September 2008 (Mon), 01:15
Price in China are:

50D EUR1050
50D + 17-85 USM IS EUR1400
50D + 18-200 IS EUR1520

For this price the 18-200IS better be good (not only optically, but also build)!

http://www.canon.com.cn/products/camera/eos/50d/index.html