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lbeck
8th of July 2008 (Tue), 20:10
Shot a wedding on Sunday with a friend of mine, it was my first time as a second shooter. Actually, I guess it could really be considered my first wedding. I shot one over 2 years ago but have learned so much since then that I almost don't even count it.

These were a few of my favorites. Let me know what you think. ;)

lbeck
8th of July 2008 (Tue), 20:12
2 more ...

lbeck
8th of July 2008 (Tue), 20:14
more ...

lbeck
8th of July 2008 (Tue), 20:17
final two ... I have more if you wish to see them ;)

howzitboy
8th of July 2008 (Tue), 22:15
really nice work!! love the exposures, love the colors, love composition! thx for sharing.

TTGator
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 14:29
Meh, it's ok.






Just kiddin Luke, great work! Really like the sky in #1

sam0329
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 14:33
#2 and #4 are my picks, well done. And I understand its not easy to 2nd shoot. That 's why I allow my 2nd shooters to post the B&G and they all get excited and never let me down lol.

michillebaker
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 16:22
Wow, they all look really well for being the second shooter escpecially since it looks like neither the dress or girl was blown out. It can be hard taking pictures of black people in white clothing. Great Job!

Michille

M12576
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 16:29
Great job!! The first one is absolutely beautiful!! They all are!

zachwsu
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 20:09
your exposures are spot on, great work

hannaxt
9th of July 2008 (Wed), 22:17
You did excellent!

grego
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 02:27
Luke,

You did a good job for your first weddding. :)

1 - If you were the one posing her, I think you could have had her turn her head towards you slightly more. Also you might have wanted to take a few steps in or zoom more to help blur out the background slightly more. Those are small nit picks though.

2 - Nice moment.

3 - probably want to move in a little bit more on the flowers and try to use a bigger aperture to put the focus more on the flowers and less on her body.

4 - nice smile. Try to aim for portrait orientation next shoot. You get more of her lovely dress and the flowers she's holding. As of now, her hand is cut off.

5 - if you could lean out, and focus more on the hands, you could eliminate more negative space and put more emphasis on the hands.

6 - Nice smiles and moment.

7 - my favorite one of yours. A good display of the vertical orientation and its usefulness. Great expressions.

8 - Because the crowd doesn't look like they are giving attention to the couple, this is where you try to move in with your feet + zoom (on a zoom lens). The family/friends are more a distraction than a help. With wide you tend to show more, so you need to move in more. You could also put more emphasis on the moment if you are slightly closer.

Overall, good job. They were still very nice even though I had nitpicks. I think some of the pictures could benefit from portrait orientation (more room to work with the person in the frame).

lbeck
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 07:23
Luke,

You did a good job for your first weddding. :)

1 - If you were the one posing her, I think you could have had her turn her head towards you slightly more. Also you might have wanted to take a few steps in or zoom more to help blur out the background slightly more. Those are small nit picks though.

2 - Nice moment.

3 - probably want to move in a little bit more on the flowers and try to use a bigger aperture to put the focus more on the flowers and less on her body.

4 - nice smile. Try to aim for portrait orientation next shoot. You get more of her lovely dress and the flowers she's holding. As of now, her hand is cut off.

5 - if you could lean out, and focus more on the hands, you could eliminate more negative space and put more emphasis on the hands.

6 - Nice smiles and moment.

7 - my favorite one of yours. A good display of the vertical orientation and its usefulness. Great expressions.

8 - Because the crowd doesn't look like they are giving attention to the couple, this is where you try to move in with your feet + zoom (on a zoom lens). The family/friends are more a distraction than a help. With wide you tend to show more, so you need to move in more. You could also put more emphasis on the moment if you are slightly closer.

Overall, good job. They were still very nice even though I had nitpicks. I think some of the pictures could benefit from portrait orientation (more room to work with the person in the frame).

Thanks Grego! That was the best critique I've ever had, very helpful with great points ;) Hmm ... on the one you suggested a portrait orientation, I believe I took one. And I think I have a closer shot of them dancing that eliminates the crowd. Let me go back through my files and find them, I'll edit and repost them to compare.

Thanks again and thanks everyone for the great comments, I really apppreciate them.

lbeck
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 08:17
Ok, I found 2 other images that may work better. The first one is in place of #8 (the dancing one) and the second one is in place of #4 (bride sitting on chair, horiz)

keegsmeister
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 09:44
stunning work. were you just using the 430EX for the first shot above^?

lbeck
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 09:52
stunning work. were you just using the 430EX for the first shot above^?

Thank you! Yep, the ceilings were pretty low so I was bouncing the 430 during most of the reception. I also had a white bounce card to throw extra light forward. ;)

Catlover
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 12:20
Solid and well executed! Exposure, composition, and PP are very good! You certainly have the skill to be a primary shooter.

stunt4949
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 12:47
Hey Luke!!

Love the second image and the tighter composition on the last one of them dancing!There's not much I can say after Grego's comments. Overall, the color of her bouquet is stunning.

Where was the reception?

lbeck
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 15:20
Hey Luke!!

Love the second image and the tighter composition on the last one of them dancing!There's not much I can say after Grego's comments. Overall, the color of her bouquet is stunning.

Where was the reception?

Hey Rommel! I thought you were a forum member but never saw you floating around anywhere. Thanks for the comments man!

The wedding and reception was at Tampa Palms Golf and Country Club, it was set up beautifully.

lbeck
10th of July 2008 (Thu), 15:21
Solid and well executed! Exposure, composition, and PP are very good! You certainly have the skill to be a primary shooter.

Thanks Todd, that's my plan. Now, I just need to book some weddings. I do have an engagement session coming up in 2 weeks and possibly another after that. Hopefully they will hire me to shoot their wedding.

grego
11th of July 2008 (Fri), 00:27
part 2:

#10 - A lot of what I was looking for in #8. Good separation from the background. Good moment.

#11 - i know you are the second shooter, but here and there try to have them pose for you. It'll help get you practice in posing so that you can do your own shoots or that the main shooter can trust you to cover even more (so you can be even more effective as a team).

As far as the photo, the background is pretty clean and good exposure. The one thing about cropping on the left (with the camera) is she is looking that direction which makes it appear like you are crowding her so to speak. Moving a little to the left (if possible) and/or walking up to get a higher angle (over the chairs) might have helped this picture.

Again, solid job, especially for a first.

lbeck
11th of July 2008 (Fri), 07:48
part 2:

#10 - A lot of what I was looking for in #8. Good separation from the background. Good moment.

#11 - i know you are the second shooter, but here and there try to have them pose for you. It'll help get you practice in posing so that you can do your own shoots or that the main shooter can trust you to cover even more (so you can be even more effective as a team).

As far as the photo, the background is pretty clean and good exposure. The one thing about cropping on the left (with the camera) is she is looking that direction which makes it appear like you are crowding her so to speak. Moving a little to the left (if possible) and/or walking up to get a higher angle (over the chairs) might have helped this picture.

Again, solid job, especially for a first.

Thanks Greg, I see your points. I wish I could have posed them more but the main photog was having a hard enough time running through al the formals because people kept disappearing. We planned on letting me have about 15 minutes with them so I could play around with some of my ideas but it just never happened. I'm suppose to be shooting another with her soon so hopefully I can do some them.

Thanks again, you've been a big help! ;)