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OneManArmy
10th of January 2005 (Mon), 22:28
This is a portrait of my son, the painter. We went to get some supplies for him today at hobby lobby. He told the checkout girl that he was a painter. She replied, "Oh, that's awesome - what do you paint?" And his answer was, "I'm an emotional artist."
Comments encouraged... I won't be sensivite, please tell me your thoughts, thanks.
http://tracymilburn.com/public/img/ForrestArtist.jpg
Jemook
10th of January 2005 (Mon), 22:41
I think you should let him out of the house more often, he doesn't look to happy! I'm only kidding, sort of. :)
The photo is actually kind of spooky.
jaypie77
10th of January 2005 (Mon), 22:53
"I'm an emotional artist."
Wow, that's the best thing I've heard all day. When I was younger (6 months ago when I was 23) my parents would give me a hard time for laying about the house and not getting a job. I would start yelling "I'm a genius! You don't understand!" over and over and I would storm out of the room.
elbirth
10th of January 2005 (Mon), 23:16
Wow, that's the best thing I've heard all day. When I was younger (6 months ago when I was 23) my parents would give me a hard time for laying about the house and not getting a job. I would start yelling "I'm a genius! You don't understand!" over and over and I would storm out of the room.
Those are the beginning signs of actually being insane, aren't they? :lol:
I agree that photo looks rather spooky... almost like he's a murderous child or something. It might be more interesting if we could see what he was painting... as well as being sharper. Was that shot with your MkII?
berto
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 00:46
hey hey, he's an emotional dude. let him be. creativity comes in many forms.. perhaps he was in his moody period.
sheye
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 01:01
I like it a lot, he appears a little moody & mysterious - everything a great artist should be!.
OneManArmy
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 08:01
like he's a murderous child or something. Ah... I can't really comment on that ;)
It might be more interesting if we could see what he was painting... as well as being sharper. Was that shot with your MkII?No, 20d... and it's fairly sharp. But others weren't. I had a hard time getting a focus, because you have NO idea how bad the light was in the room. I should have taken more time to bring in some lamps and stuff, but it was hard enough getting the 15min I got to shoot these photos, it's hectic at our house. this was a 50mm 1.4, around 1/8 and f/2.8. To me, his face is fairly sharp in that one though,which is what I was focusing on.. I had to throw away about 70% of them.
The expression he has is "intense"
I probably need to clone out the section of the tan window ceiling in the left side... Any other thoughts?
Jemook
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 08:35
just unsharpmask it a bit 1ma.
also take a pic of one of his paintings!
OneManArmy
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 08:43
just unsharpmask it a bit 1ma.
also take a pic of one of his paintings!
I've tried using that tool, and I'm sure I'm just not using it right, but haven't had much luck with it; any tips?? Thanks
elbirth
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 10:23
I've tried using that tool, and I'm sure I'm just not using it right, but haven't had much luck with it; any tips?? Thanks
As far as using Unsharp Mask, first start out with the threshold fairly low (1-5 or so, maybe). Then, keeping the radius fairly small (~2-3 maybe) push the amount up around 80+ and see how it looks. You can also increase the radius if you want, but if you do that, decrease the amount. Or, you can jack the radius up, but will want to increase the threshold....
I'm not sure that really makes too much sense... but messing with that sample some, I tried Amount: 93%, Radius: 3.0, Threshold: 20 and got a slightly sharper result. The coloring of pictures starts to get almost posterized or something if you take one option to the extreme, so you have to be careful.
marie
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 11:26
hey hey, he's an emotional dude. let him be. creativity comes in many forms..QUOTE=berto]hey hey, he's an emotional dude. let him be. creativity comes in many forms..
perhaps he was in his moody period.and I thought only girls had those:o
:lol:
like father like son ?
no wonder you love the little b.......... beautiful fellow:lol: :lol:
love the shot
needs a little sharpening , that's all
I think
I actually thought he was outside the house when you took this.
the picture is slightly leaning towards the left
(that's if you want us to really look for something not 100% in it )
Ballen Photo
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 12:06
I agree that photo looks rather spooky... almost like he's a murderous child or something. I'm seeing the look of a person that is probably getting tired of the "Papparazzi" (His Father?) always putting the camera in His face?:lol: :cool: :lol:
Or, He could just be PO'd by the small size of His canvas? :shock:
Either way, nice portrait of your "Little Artist".
-Bruce
OneManArmy
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 13:11
I'm seeing the look of a person that is probably getting tired of the "Papparazzi" (His Father?) always putting the camera in His face?:lol: :cool: :lol: Wow, I'm suprised to hear so many people say that... no the look is just intensive... he loves to have his photo taken. I'll look for a slightly different expression next time, but I didn't want to "guide" him too much, I like natural candids.
:shock:
Either way, nice portrait of your "Little Artist".
-BruceThanks guys! He's something else, that's for sure. He's 9 and reads on a 7th grade level... he acts crazy and silly, but is a borderline genius, and very creative and sensitive.
jgbeam
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 14:03
Since he's looking straight at you with that intense look while working on that little canvas, I think you should show us your portrait! :lol:
Jim
OneManArmy
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 14:13
Since he's looking straight at you with that intense look while working on that little canvas, I think you should show us your portrait! :lol:
Jim
Sorry, I don't get what you're saying... ???
elbirth
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 17:40
Sorry, I don't get what you're saying... ???
lol... he was suggesting that by him looking at you "intensively" (as you say that's what that look is) and he's painting, that he must be painting your portrait, so therefore show us the portrait of you he painted. ;)
jgbeam
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 18:23
lol... he was suggesting that by him looking at you "intensively" (as you say that's what that look is) and he's painting, that he must be painting your portrait, so therefore show us the portrait of you he painted. ;)
You got it.:) But whatever he's painting, let's see it!
Jim
AprilShowers
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 19:35
WAY TO BE!! Be sure to remind him to feel ALL emotions. For some reason artists seem to dwell on the darker side of the spectrum...i hope he's able to see the beauty and freedom in painting- very cool pic- kids are funny!!!!
Also a painter-
AG
OneManArmy
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 19:56
As far as using Unsharp Mask, first start out with the threshold fairly low (1-5 or so, maybe). Then, keeping the radius fairly small (~2-3 maybe) push the amount up around 80+ and see how it looks. You can also increase the radius if you want, but if you do that, decrease the amount. Or, you can jack the radius up, but will want to increase the threshold....
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Thanks; does this one look better or worse?
http://www.tracymilburn.com/public/img/ForrestArtistSharp.jpg
ssim
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 19:56
I don't have issue with his expression. It could be intense.
I find the overall image to be too soft.
OneManArmy
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 21:17
I don't have issue with his expression. It could be intense.
I find the overall image to be too soft.
Even the second one?? If so, then what do you mean by soff?
elbirth
11th of January 2005 (Tue), 23:56
Thanks; does this one look better or worse?
http://www.tracymilburn.com/public/img/ForrestArtistSharp.jpg
That's a little sharper, but watch how far you push certain elements of USM, you're beginning to see almost like chromatic aberation or something in his skin tones and such... they look somewhat harsh. You're getting the hang of it, though, the trick is to just keep messing with it until you get a feel for how it works.
If I get a chance sometime tomorrow, I'll give it a go and see how it comes out and post
Dimitry
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 00:12
What I like about this photo is if you where going for that emotional look, the blue back walls make the photo look sorta "blueish" and therefor the tone of the photo emotionally moody. The softness of the first photo sorta adds to that as well too. I like it.
elbirth
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 00:15
I was just messing with it, and with that smaller lower quality shot, sharpening it some just doesnt really seem to be noticable too much unless you zoom in.
But to give you an idea of what we're talking about when we say "sharp", take this picture of one of my cats, for example:
http://www.heycubed.net/photos/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_2735.jpg
Notice how she's really in focus, and when you zoom in at 100% at full resolution, it's very clear, as in this 100% crop:
http://www.heycubed.net/imageupload/userfiles/elbirth/sharppiccrop.jpg
See the level of detail you can see in the fur, eyes and whiskers? If you're still somewhat unclear, take the cropped selection of my above picture and open it in Photoshop and give it a Gausian Blue of about 1.5 or so and compare that to the original crop... notice the difference in the level of detail you can make out- the blurred picture is considered "soft"
ok, I really need to go on to bed now... first day of classes tomorrow :rolleyes:
OneManArmy
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 09:28
To me, the second photo looks sharper...
Dimitry, was thinking the same thing :) Thanks
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