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Techuser
14th of July 2008 (Mon), 20:13
Was shooting on 12x and noticed that the camera isnt focusing right when I manually set to infinity
its strange because ive already shot the moon sharp with the same settings
tried IS on/off and safety MF on/off, same thing, also its not camera shake as its also blurry on 1/1000
and before shooting, the image looks sharp in the zoomed square...

100% crops below

ISO100 1/400 F6.3 72mm
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9379/img9351jd2.jpg

ISO100 1/400 F5 72mm
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1690/img9334zj2.jpg

ISO100 1/400 F5.6 72mm
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4295/img9356kf5.jpg

tried the focus one step down from infinity and got worse :(

mullhawk
14th of July 2008 (Mon), 21:57
what does the uncropped photo look like, the thumbnail of the moon looks like it has grass or something around it, and the plane looke like it has somehting on the edges?? I am just wondering if all of that for some reason messed with the focus??
Were you shooting in M?
I realize it's not the case but it looks like you were shooting the moon on like iso1600 or something, do you use CHDK, that maybe there is a setting in there that you were using and forgot to turn off??

Techuser
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 00:06
The moon I shot behind some branches but the others were clear, this shouldnt be a problem when using manual focus
Yes, shooting in M
I use the chdk but its really on ISO100, the noise looks normal to me, it appears more on these shots for them being underexposed

the originals:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9681/img9351jd1.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4104/img9334to9.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/613/img9356pa7.jpg

watt100
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 08:11
here's a moon shoot on manual focus

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3289/2670400863_e8ba716a25.jpg

Solano3
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 10:20
Here's another on manual focus

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/Solano333/moon.jpg

mullhawk
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 10:48
are either of you using a telephoto lens for those shots, my moon shots don't come out anywhere near that clear...

Solano3
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 11:13
No sir, just the camera by itself. With tripod. Mine is also cropped

Which mode did you use ?

mullhawk
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 11:29
I was using the full Manual mode
here is probably my best one taken a couple of nights ago, I didn't crop it, but it looks even worse if I do

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/mullhawk/IMG_2142-1.jpg

Yogesh Sarkar
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 12:19
Have you tried using a tripod?

wildabouthorses
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 13:26
I put my S5 on Program, under the Func button I have it set to vivid and cloudy to take my moon pics, staying with the cloudy pick. You do have to play with the focus a few times when you push down the shutter button halfway to get it to focus. These were taken with no extra lenses and above settings. Some nights I can't get the moon to focus as well and other nights I can't. I didn't use a tripod for these photos. You also have to play with the zoom length too to find the sharpest focus.
A series of new moon shots put together with psp7
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/00ffb99c6.jpg

This is one shot that I get alot of comments on. As I was focusing on the moon an airplane flew in front of it. I don't know why the moon was so big and the plane so small.
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/284973d9e.jpg

Here's one I took as the sun was rising one morning
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/833462f19.jpg

This was a series of shots taken new years day 08 as the sun rose. Again put together with psp7 and as you can see, not the sharpest focus.
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/f58c9cfca.jpg

here's another taken in the middle of January
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/e2ed155e6.jpg

This one was taken as the sun was setting...
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/91dc60209.jpg

This one was taken with the sun setting behind me as I looked eastward as the moon rose
http://photo.accuweather.com/photogallery/500/7ff123221.jpg

mullhawk
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 16:00
I had it on a tripod for that shot. I am going to try to take a few shots tonight, but try some different settings

bayoubooger
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 16:12
Finally got the TCON17, this is at F/8-1/80 sec-IS180 cloudy vivid tripod and S5 IS, just noticed EXIF missing?

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EBurF2nMdYs/SH0C4Iev8qI/AAAAAAAAAbI/yKUClccWn7M/s1600-h/2669986061_a4fed623bb_orev.jpg

mullhawk
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 21:45
nice do you prefer that over canons TC-DC58B, I am just wondering if the lens is better, the price was better or both, or whatever the reason you chose to go with that tele. I am looking into buying a lens and was juust going to buy the canon, but I have seen good things about the sony, and that pic looks damn good. Also do you still haveto set it in the camera that you are using the dc58b if you are using any teleconverter???? Thanks and sorry this thread got a little hijacked...

dan_bgblue
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 22:31
Finally got the TCON17, this is at F/8-1/80 sec-ISI80 cloudy vivid tripod and S5 IS, just noticed EXIF missing?

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EBurF2nMdYs/SH0C4Iev8qI/AAAAAAAAAbI/yKUClccWn7M/s1600-h/2669986061_a4fed623bb_orev.jpg


That is a great shot. I don't know why, but the image makes the moon into the shape of a black and white watermelon with the branch end broken completely off. Like I said that is a great shot. imo

mullhawk
15th of July 2008 (Tue), 23:38
I think my S5 is broken :D
I just spent a couple hours messing with settings and checking pics, and messing with settings and over and over again, still this is the best I can come up with, I don't get how you get those shots out of the same exact camera, I have tried every setting I can adjust in this thing. it is getting a little frustrating...

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/mullhawk/amoon.jpg

or maybe this, but they are nowhere near those shots...

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/mullhawk/IMG_2683.jpg

Techuser
16th of July 2008 (Wed), 00:44
Another sample of the problem

first the one manually set on infinite it focuses on the fence
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2335/img9381no8.jpg

changed to automatic focus, then it goes for real on infinite
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9545/img9385ur3.jpg

tomorrow will try setting the focus before zooming and see if changes something... :mad:

mullhawk
16th of July 2008 (Wed), 13:32
are you guys using full digital zoom, or just full optical zoom and no digital zoom???
I just don't get what I could be doing wrong

bayoubooger
16th of July 2008 (Wed), 16:42
every camera I have has digital zoom turned off, you need to learn some post processing to get them to turn out the way you see them. search the forums, you should find some good reads.