VOTING - Contest # 21 "Bad Habits" [Archive] - Canon Digital Photography Forums

KarinaB1970

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 06:48

Good Morning,

Contest #21 "Bad Habits!" has now closed and I'd like to thank everyone who entered. :D

Photos can be viewed at http://canondigitalphotographycontests.fotopic.net/

To cast your vote, simply list your 3 favourite entries in this thread.
You may rank them and also make a comment on each photo if you wish.

Voting will last for one week and will conclude on Wednesday, January 19th at 8:00 AM EST.

RULES

1) Anyone who is a member on this board may vote, regardless of whether they entered the competition or not.

2) You cannot vote for your own images.

3) The person with the most votes wins and will be given the task of choosing the topic and rules for the next competition and will have to handle the administration as well.

Thanks again for all of your support and happy voting!

Dimitry

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 08:33

Image 01, 03, 04 in that order...

Youngster

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 08:35

One (1)
Three (3)
Five (5)

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 16:27

04

03

01

Rendezvous

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 17:25

4 (I especially like this one)
1
3

Ogrt48

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 17:33

1
3
4

aam1234

12th of January 2005 (Wed), 19:18

1
4

SuperFly

13th of January 2005 (Thu), 11:55

Missed this one, thought of a couple good ones as well...

01
03
04

Laters...

aam1234

13th of January 2005 (Thu), 22:36

Seems we will have a three-way tie :D

tim

13th of January 2005 (Thu), 23:07

3 (great shot!)
1
4

17th of January 2005 (Mon), 08:15

Hmmm... I think breaking up the "General" forum into smaller ones has had the unwanted side effect of reducing participation in entering contests and voting. Do many people still go into the "Other" forum ? Perhaps contests and stuff like that should be moved to Canon EOS digital cameras (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9) which sometimes has over 100 people viewing (as opposed to 2 or 3 in this one!)

Just an idea...

Dimitry

17th of January 2005 (Mon), 09:23

I agree with JK as well...

jmjmotorsport

17th of January 2005 (Mon), 18:09

In order..
3
4
5

aam1234

17th of January 2005 (Mon), 20:30

17th of January 2005 (Mon), 21:27

Hi JK,

You seem to like the contest, and when you ran it you ran it smoothly. So how about (drum roll please)....you become the admin to the contest :cool:

I bet if you volunteer many people will join, because many people are afraid to host it if they win.

Give it a thought :DThanks for the compliment aam1234, but I think Karina also ran the contest very smoothly, yet the response to it has been very low. The theme of "Bad Habits" was a good and interesting one, so I don't think we can put the low participation numbers down to that. I think it's simply due to the fact that the contest thread is almost "hidden" away in a sub forum that's not visited very frequently.

The Canon EOS digital cameras (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9) thread is by far the most active and visited one, so perhaps the moderators may want to consider moving the contest thread there. It would be a bit off-topic, but at least people will notice it.

As for me volunteering to run contests, well I don't have a problem with that but I'm sure other people would also like to give it a go. Is anyone out there really not entering contests just because they have to host the next one ? Let us know and I'm sure we can sort something out! ;)

iowahawkeye6

18th of January 2005 (Tue), 00:11

5
1
4

aam1234

18th of January 2005 (Tue), 01:21

Hi JK again,

Thanks for the compliment aam1234, but I think Karina also ran the contest very smoothly, yet the response to it has been very low. The theme of "Bad Habits" was a good and interesting one, so I don't think we can put the low participation numbers down to that.

You are absolutely right, Karina ran it very smoothly (thanks Karina) and the topic was very interesting. I'm not disagreeing with that.

My main suggestion was that the contest could really use a permanent admin for it to work and to gain wider participation. You may recall that myself and our good friend Superfly ran a pool about it sometime ago. If memory serves, I think the fear of winning was one of the main reasons people don't participate (I'll try to dig up that poll).

As for you volunteering, I don't think anybody would object to that. If there is an objection then that would be great too, so you may have more than yourself to run the contest. If you like, I can run another poll about a permanent admin, just let me know.

What do you think

18th of January 2005 (Tue), 01:47

My main suggestion was that the contest could really use a permanent admin for it to work and to gain wider participation. You may recall that myself and our good friend Superfly ran a pool about it sometime ago. If memory serves, I think the fear of winning was one of the main reasons people don't participate (I'll try to dig up that poll).
Hehe... "fear of winning" - sounds like people equate this to winning the lottery where the first prize is a trip to the dentist for a root canal! :D

I guess the other question is whether people actually still WANT a monthly contest and also what kinds of topics they'd be interested in. Time for another poll perhaps ?(but in the other sub forum - no-one hangs out in here any more!)

[EDIT: Uh, and sorry for hijacking this thread Karina - we should really take our banter elsewhere! :cool: ]

aam1234

18th of January 2005 (Tue), 02:23

You raise very good points, especially the one about having a contest at all.

I'd suggest that we take up the subject privately, and preferably ask Superfly to join the discussion. What do you think.

KarinaB1970

18th of January 2005 (Tue), 20:27

Just my 2 cents, but I would certainly think that many people may not be so eager to win the "prize" (being responsible for facilitating the following months contest from beginning to end). This month there were just 5 entries. But between the very clumsy interface used for posting pics (took me quite a while to get it all figured out once I was logged in and Im not exactly "computer dumb") and the possibility of having to post endless photos AND make revisions up until the closing date may scare people away. Picking the next topic might be a fine reward, but having to host the following contest may be too much of an undertaking for some people.

I am not complaining :D but then again, I only had 5 pics to post and 1 revision. However, I do recall saying....."I kinda hope I dont win b/c then I have to facilitate the next one from beginning to end."

boomer1959

18th of January 2005 (Tue), 20:55

Time for another poll perhaps ?(but in the other sub forum - no-one hangs out in here any more

There used to be alot of enteries in the contests so I don't think its a matter of not wanting to host the next one so much.

Perhaps "CONTESTS" should have its own subform. Then more than one contest could be run from that. The forum has more than one contest happening now.

Oh buy the way my pics are.
1,4,5 :D

IndyJeff

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 02:38

Karina that is precisely why I don't enter the contests here. I don't want to have to run it if I win it. There should be a way to create a gallery which the last winner could decide on a topic and create a password and if you want to enter, PM the last winner and they will give you the password. Load your own images. The only problem I can forsee is more than one person trying to access at once. Solution? Create a thread where the contest is announced and the subject declared. If I want to load something, I PM the last winner for the password and then post "I am uploading" on a new post. When I am done uploading, I delete the message. As long as there is no "loading message" your good to go.

Will this work?

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 04:10

I think the easiest way of running a contest would be for the winner to start a new contest thread into which people who wish to participate simply post their entries. Sure, the anonymity of who submitted what would be gone, but does that really matter ?
Moderators would be responsible for deleting any posts that are not contest submissions. Then, after 2 weeks, the creator of the thread posts an "Entries are now closed" message at the end of the thread and that's it! Another voting thread is created and the winner is determined as per usual.

Easy! :cool:

KarinaB1970

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 06:31

Congratulations to jmjmotorsport and tannerb, who tied for first place in Contest #21! :D

Well done!

Typically, as the winner, they would get to pick the next topic plus also get to run the next contest. Since the contest itself is kind of up in the air at the moment, I guess we will wait to see the discussion's outcome (especially since this one was a tie).

Congratulations!! :D :D :D

PS Tanner is my 11 yo son who picked his subject and created the composition with no help from us. In fairness, neither myself nor Gary voted in this contest. :)

jmjmotorsport

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 07:17

Alright, my first contest win! Or tie.. whatever. I would have liked some more entries though, I must admit. Which picture was tanners? I was using a Canon Sureshot 35mm P+S @ age 11! He's got some skills in the making then.. BTW, mine was #1. Good job to all.. I'll check back and see what the status on future contests is... I've got plenty of ideas so I'd like to see this continue and get better response than this one. Anyhow, maybe a new system of posting/voting could be in order..

CyberDyneSystems

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 07:39

I've been reading this thread,. and I too am saddened to see only 5 entries this time around.

A few points,

This contest has allways been a member operated contest.. no input from mods or admin except for the task of adding "stickies" by request,. I like that personally... get the mods involved and suddenly someone is going to start in with politics and what not... ...the less involvement from mods the better IMHO.

This is YOUR contest,. don't make it Mine or Pekka's..

I am however chagrined at the impact of splitting the sharing forums,. and I agree this has been a major part in the cause of going from 20 some odd entries to 5.

The suggestion to move the contest to another forum is reasonable,. but "EOS" is not the place. The Equipment forums are for just that, discussing equipment and thus image sharing of any kind is "taboo" in those forums ;)

I would suggest either "Talk about photography" or "General Chat" would be reasonable places to have the contests if we move them to an existing forum...

But,.. I will also bring this to the Admin if the consensus is that a "contest forum" in Share is the best solution?

As allways,. you have my full support in this endeavor,. so figure out how, or if there is anything I can do to help, and I will. :)

ilya

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 08:02

i think the main reason may have been that the picture of the year contest runs at same time.

Another that skill tests seem to do better than themes.

Since its a running thing, Contest forum seems like a great idea.

CyberDyneSystems

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 08:05

P.S.

Congrats JmJ!

tommykjensen

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 09:02

I've been thinking :shock:

Karina mentioned that the current administration is a bit clumsy so how about using a different album software to host the photos.

For example this one (http://gallery.menalto.com/modules.php?set_albumName=screenshotsG1&id=aav&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php)

This gallery can be setup to handle the voting instead of the manual voting used today. It would also be possible to allow registered users to upload their own photos - disadvantage though is that the name would be visible.

If there is an interest I could setup this gallery to run on one of my domains. I am not saying I would also run the actual contest just the technical setup.

As for my paritipation in this contest #21. I would have submitted a photo if my idea of illustrating how people mishandle fireworks on new years eve worked out. But the weather was foggy so I could not get any proper photos - and to my shock people did not behave as badly as they have done previous years :mrgreen:

Of course the site went offline just as I am typing this ....

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 09:19

I think Jeff hit it on the head (ouch!) and that's what I tried to do sometime ago, but no such luck. It's to make loading of the pics the responsibility of the participant, not the winner. However, that's not an easy thing to do. The contest that I'm a regular at has a program to do so. I tried to get a permission to use that program, but, and to make a long story short, the owner of that program is so busy (he is a med student) that it's not possible to contact him.

I think if we can find a way for the person to enter his own pics, then we have solved the problem.

How about if we/somebody contact those photo hosting sites, do you think they would help us with that. The contest I mentioned is hosted by PBase and for free.

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 09:31

I've been thinking :shock:

Karina mentioned that the current administration is a bit clumsy so how about using a different album software to host the photos.

For example this one (http://gallery.menalto.com/modules.php?set_albumName=screenshotsG1&id=aav&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php)

This gallery can be setup to handle the voting instead of the manual voting used today. It would also be possible to allow registered users to upload their own photos - disadvantage though is that the name would be visible.

If there is an interest I could setup this gallery to run on one of my domains. I am not saying I would also run the actual contest just the technical setup.

Of course the site went offline just as I am typing this ....

That would be great!

And do you know what, there is no problem of identifying your photo. As a matter of fact, in that contest I mentioned, the photo will be deleted if it has no owner name. Not only that, but commenting is HIGHLY encouraged.

tommykjensen

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 10:17

I just downloaded the gallery and am testing it.

The voting system can work in 2 ways.

One where voters have x votes to rank the photos. One rank can only be applied to one photo. So this is actually a top x list. Both number of ranks and votes per user can be defined.

The other way allows any rank to be applied to 1 or more photos. This means that if a user think 2 photos a top notch then he/she can give the top vote for both.

Here is a screenshot of the first method of voting.

http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/public/gallery.jpg

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 10:58

Hi Tommy,

If you ask me, I think putting a numerical values is better than descriptive ones.

tommykjensen

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 11:05

Hi Tommy,

If you ask me, I think putting a numerical values is better than descriptive ones.

I just used the standard values. It would be no problem using 1 to 10 or any other range of numbers.

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 11:15

That's a great start!

Let's get other peoples' opinion. I for one is supporting your intiative.

KarinaB1970

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 13:31

I am sorry! Number one was jmjmotorsport and number four was tannerb, both tied for first place :) I am not sure how to handle the tie....which pic to display on the front, or perhaps I leave it as is and just mark them first place inside the gallery :confused:

KarinaB1970

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 13:37

tommykjensen

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 13:49

I think it will ensure that users can't vote more than once. But if someone where to attempt to bypass it it would probably be possible. But then again thats not something we do around here is it :lol:

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 15:21

I think Tommy is on the right track. He/we will irone out the details as we gain more experience with the s/w.

BTW, if no comments are allowed (for the photos) then I'm out of the contest.

TannerB

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 19:05

Yeah I tied my first Photography Contest and im only 11 years old!! Yeah this is so cool Thanks everyone for voting for my picture!! :) :)

CyberDyneSystems

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 19:08

Congrats Tanner! :)

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 19:13

Hey TannerB, you got the 1st place!!! woohoo!!!

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 19:16

If it is OK with your co-winner, we would love for you to choose the next topic. Think think.

jmjmotorsport

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 19:59

go for it little guy.. pick away at the next topic.

aam1234

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 20:23

Hey, your co-winner gave you the green light! go for it (but don't make it hard, grr :D ).

boomer1959

19th of January 2005 (Wed), 23:02

Congrats JMJMOTERSPORT AND TANNER GREAT SHOTS :D
My photo was #3 and also I would have liked to see more entries.
Second place in a feild of 20 would feel better than a feild of 5 :(

TannerB

20th of January 2005 (Thu), 05:40

Okay I wont make it 2 hard. Or at least I wont try to.

boomer1959

25th of January 2005 (Tue), 21:37

SO WHAT'S UP. IS THERE GOING TO BE A NEW CONTEST OR WHAT? :confused:

tommykjensen

4th of February 2005 (Fri), 14:27

SO WHAT'S UP. IS THERE GOING TO BE A NEW CONTEST OR WHAT? :confused:

Yeah that would be interesting to know and especially if my offer to host a gallery for the photos is of interest. I am not going to set it up until I know there is an interest since there is a small cost associated with it. So whats the verdict? Did the contest die at the age of 21?