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Henry Low
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 10:41
Hi guys,

I am planning to do some model photography, mainly indoors. I am wondering if a wide angle lens such as the tokina 17mm ATX pro F/3.5 would be more suitable than a 28-75 range lens (tamron f/2.8)? Which one do you guys think I will be using more? I want to do full body shots mainly. I also have a 50mm F1.8 mki lens but found it WAY to narrow on my 20D with its stupid 1.6x.

Thanks in advance guys,
Henry

donlavange
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 10:47
I think it is too wide. And she/he would not be pleased with the rendition of the face.

Ferdinand
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 10:59
For indoors/studio work (apart from PRIMES) I prefer the 24-70mm f/2.8 sometimes my 70-200mm f/2.8 IS, some outdoor shots when I have to get into tight spaces or want a more dramatic look I will go with the 16-35mm f/2.8

Cordell
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 11:00
That would be pretty useless IMHO. you would be capturing a lot of surrounding area instead of the model (assuming you're talking about people).

cmM
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 11:26
it depends very much on the shot you want. if you do indeed want the sense of depth a wide angle lens gives you, then 17mm is great. It's not normally used, but I've seen model shot taken with fisheyes :D

Longwatcher
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 11:39
I shoot models in the studio a lot.
I primarily use a 28-70L, but I also use a 16-35 and a 70-200.

I use the 28-70 for full and partial body shots.
This works out to about 75-80% of my shots.
I use the 16-35 for up close off-tripod artistic shots. About 10-15% of my shots
I use the 70-200 for head and portrait type shots. About 5-10% of my in studio shots.

Just depends on what look you are trying to achieve. For straight fashion shots with the D60/10D/20D cameras I would go with the 28-75 lens you mentioned over the 17mm lens. The 17 is a bit too wide unless you have absolutely no room to shoot in. It will also provide too much distortion. The better lens would be a Canon 24-70L (you shots will look better overall), but if otherwise yes the 28-75 range is a much better range and will give you much more flexability then a prime.

Assuming you are using studio lights I personally think the Canon 28-135 IS lens would be an even better choice then the Tokina 28-75. They are within $10 of each other on BH and I suspect have similiar quality levels. The Tokina may give you more aperture (which might be important), but the Canon will give you more flexability. Plus I know the 28-135 will take some good pictures allowing you to go from full body to head shots with one lens.

Just my opinion,

Andy_T
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 12:30
Assuming you are using studio lights I personally think the Canon 28-135 IS lens would be an even better choice then the Tokina 28-75.

I do not think so.

The Tamron 28-75 /2.8 will give you incredibly sharp images if you shoot it at f/3.5-4.0 (or at f/2.8 if you have a good copy) that equal the sharpness of the Canon 24-70/2.8 L. The same can definitely not be said about the Canon 28-135 IS. Also a nice lens, but not in the league of the Tamron, image quality wise.

If you like primes, another option would be the Canon 35/2.0. Same build quality as the 50/1.8 MK I.

Best regards,
Andy

Henry Low
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 13:10
THanks for all the repliess.. actually i was thinking of the tamron for the 28-75 F2.8 zoom.

From what is said here, I think i wil lget teh Tamron :)

or how about a Canon 20mm prime with a F2.8? how is that lens interms of sharpness? I realized that because its a prime lens, it would be more difficult to compose shots, but would it give me any advantages in terms of sharpenss comapred to the Tamron 28-78 F2.8?

Thanks

Longwatcher
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 13:28
I do have to mention that sharpness is not everything when shooting models (especially female models). That is why they have soft focus lenses.

And you are right, I had looked up Tamron data for the zoom, but typed Tokina for both.

Adam Hicks
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 13:44
While I agree that sharpness is not always the thing to focus on when shooting models, it's a LOT easier to ADD softness than it is to remove it! I'll take a razor sharp original anytime... then I'll have my way with it.


Adam

nat869
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 15:32
Typically I use my Tamron 28-75 and also my 50 1.8........I get great results with both. The Tamron is nice because I have to convert my living room, which is small, into my studio, so the zoom really comes in handy.

nat869
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 15:33
While I agree that sharpness is not always the thing to focus on when shooting models, it's a LOT easier to ADD softness than it is to remove it! I'll take a razor sharp original anytime... then I'll have my way with it.


Adam

Exactly!!!!

sjprg
12th of January 2005 (Wed), 23:59
One of the drawback of wide lenses is foreshorting. Don't try to use one on a sitting model, Her legs will come out huge in relation to the rest of her. Sitting poses with wide lenses need very careful posing.

blinking8s
13th of January 2005 (Thu), 01:16
One of the drawback of wide lenses is foreshorting. Don't try to use one on a sitting model, Her legs will come out huge in relation to the rest of her. Sitting poses with wide lenses need very careful posing.

good point...

best bet...find a bigger room...if you cant get what you want in a room with the 50 its probably not an ideal location.