Noob...Print Help?

[booju]

I have an image that is:

2742 x 1828

3.44MB


I would like to send this off to get printed by an on-line printing company...


I wanted to get a HIGH QUALITY print of this very important image sized at 11" x 14"......


My question is what do I have to do to make it print image ready.........I just want to be fully prepared once I start my order as I don't have a clue but just the 11 x 14 size that I want....

Could someone help me please?

I have CS2 and from what I can see on the top of the screen it gives the images name and says....[RGB/8]



Questions like resolution?

Convert to sRGB?

I have no idea what it takes to get this valuable image ready...

Thank you for your kind and patient help in getting this ready for printing...

What screen menus do I need to input this info would be very helpful also...


Thank you for walking me through the process I certainly appreciate it!!!!:D

[René Damkot]

[RGB/8] means it's 8bpc, and in the default RGB working space (as set in the color preferences of PS).

The online printing company *probably* wants sRGB, so it is a good idea to double check it, and deliver what they expect.

11x14 is a bit bigger then the native resolution of the camera, and quite a bit bigger then the 2742 x 1828 pixels you have. (a 300dpi print would require 4200 x 3300 pixels).

Furthermore; the image you have is in a ratio of 3:2, while 11x14 is a *lot* more square. So either you need to add a border, or you need to crop. I'd add a border.

You need to adjust the image as you normally would, then upsize (Image > Image Size; tick the "Resample Image" box, choose "Bicubic Smoother") to something like 3500x2333. Then add a border to get to 4200x3300 pixels (Image > Canvas size). Then sharpen a bit.

It will require careful editing, since you are upsizing quite a bit.

[Mike R]

Here's anothe tip: Work with a calibrated monitor this will help to assure that the print will be as close as possible to what you see on your monitor. I use Spyder2 Express and have had excellent results from Mpix and Exposure Manager. Prior to calibration, my prints were not accurate.

[aram535]

Might want to contact the printer you are going to use and get a printer profile from them. That way after your monitor is calibrated you will see what the printed version will look like as well.

[booju]

Wow...thanks everyone...

I didn't know that taking a photo to print was so highly technical and involved!

Obviously I need to learn a bit more here in what you folks have described...As a noob to all of this I simply thought that I could "simply" take a photo from my XTi,...then crop and then normal type of adjustments in PP,...then send it off to be printed....

Thank you for bring it to my attention....May I ask another question that I hope to pose correctly here so I can gain an understanding "prior" to PP an image?...

What are the limitations as far as creating high Quality prints from my XTi?


Because this image is already a crop if I enlarge only to 8x 10 would that work with the pixel size I have than the 11 x 14 enlargement?

I shoot jpeg...

I still have the original and I can redo my PP to it to gain a higher pixel size, then maybe use a more appropriate crop ratio to suit my 11 x 14 print size...

Would that be how I should approach this?

And if yes, what would be the crop ratio and resolution I should plug in?

Thanks!:)

[booju]

[RGB/8] means it's 8bpc, and in the default RGB working space (as set in the color preferences of PS).

The online printing company *probably* wants sRGB, so it is a good idea to double check it, and deliver what they expect.

11x14 is a bit bigger then the native resolution of the camera, and quite a bit bigger then the 2742 x 1828 pixels you have. (a 300dpi print would require 4200 x 3300 pixels).

Furthermore; the image you have is in a ratio of 3:2, while 11x14 is a *lot* more square. So either you need to add a border, or you need to crop. I'd add a border.

You need to adjust the image as you normally would, then upsize (Image > Image Size; tick the "Resample Image" box, choose "Bicubic Smoother") to something like 3500x2333. Then add a border to get to 4200x3300 pixels (Image > Canvas size). Then sharpen a bit.

It will require careful editing, since you are upsizing quite a bit.


Thankyou for the great info...



I notice that my XTi is giving me...Dimensions: 3888 x 2592

and being that for a 300 dpi print would require... 4200 x 3300

Am I correct in saying that an XTi is only capable of producing HIGH QUALITY prints at say a 8 x 10?

Would an 8 x 10 be the max I should consider from my XTi?

And what would be the dimensions in pixel size required for a 300 dpi requirement for an 8 x 10?

If I desired the ability to make larger prints as 11 x 14 and more then I need to get something like a 40D or something?


Only now I'm seeing the limitation of my XTi in its native resolution!

Thanks for your help!

[René Damkot]

I notice that my XTi is giving me...Dimensions: 3888 x 2592

and being that for a 300 dpi print would require... 4200 x 3300

Am I correct in saying that an XTi is only capable of producing HIGH QUALITY prints at say a 8 x 10?

Well, no.
An 8x10 print will look great, also if you view from real close up. (as in: nose on the paper ;))
An 11x16 print will look great as well, but if you view from real close up, you might be able to see some "coarser" detail then in the 8x10.

Then again; big prints generally aren't viewed from up close.

Also depends on the image off course. A portrait can be enlarged a lot more then something like a landscape with very fine details.

I've printed great A3 (12x18 I think?) prints from my 1DMk2.

Would an 8 x 10 be the max I should consider from my XTi?

And what would be the dimensions in pixel size required for a 300 dpi requirement for an 8 x 10?
I've printed a picture at 3 meters (!) wide, and if viewed from the proper distance, it's very nice ;) Workflow here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=200008)

Posted in this thread (post #62): Click (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=448105)

a 300 dpi print at 8x10" will require 8x300=2400 by 10x300=3000 pixels.

If I desired the ability to make larger prints as 11 x 14 and more then I need to get something like a 40D or something?

Nope, you just need to understand that you are working beyond the "native" resolution, so you might have to take a bit more care in processing, but the print will hold up quite well.

I've also had a shot of a 10D (6Mp) printed at 70x100 cm. You can see that it's an "enlargement", but it looks fine...

Here's another thread: Click (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=163217)

[booju]

Thank you Rene for all this great info....I'm understanding what you are saying here...

I will definitely look up those links you provided and see if I can increase my understanding here...

I just need to get an understanding of the basic parameters and I think I'll be ok...

I will post more if I have any questions that I might need some clarification on...

I appreciate the help sir!:D

[aram535]

If I desired the ability to make larger prints as 11 x 14 and more then I need to get something like a 40D or something?

Pixel wise the XTi (10MP), is the same as the 40D. Although the 40D has a better processor. If you wanted ever more, 5D is 12MP and the 1Ds is 21MP. In the current lineup, There is no middle ground in Canon. Its either 10.1, 12.8 or 21.1.

Before you go look the 1Ds Mark III is $8k for the body alone.

[booju]

Pixel wise the XTi (10MP), is the same as the 40D. Although the 40D has a better processor. If you wanted ever more, 5D is 12MP and the 1Ds is 21MP. In the current lineup, There is no middle ground in Canon. Its either 10.1, 12.8 or 21.1.

Before you go look the 1Ds Mark III is $8k for the body alone.




There I go....and there I come...


Before you go look the 1Ds Mark III is $8k for the body alone.


a man got toos do,...what a man got toos do....no joke...I just gotta talk to the good wifey first.....



1D you and me baby...:lol:

Thank you for letting me see the diff....:rolleyes:

[-Douglas-]

(as in: nose on the paper )

:lol:

Ha Ha, we have "pixel peeping" and now we have "droplet sniffing", ta-da!!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[René Damkot]

Hahahaha. :lol:
I'll have to remember that one.