Do you chimp?

[Penguin_101_1]

Well, time for the truth to come out.

(For those of you who don't know what chimping is, see here: http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html)

[belmondo]

Yup....but only to check the histogram.

[blinking8s]

im the king of chimping...and i hate that i do it

lol...i saw that vid when it was posted...

[steven]

I do it but still get a laugh when I see others at it :lol:

[Harry Settle]

There is a tool there for our use. . . why not use it? Remember the initial problem with film, you have to wait for developing to check your shots.

[Tom W]

I invented chimping. I used to stare at the back of my Elan, before they even invented LCD's.

[Moppie]

I chimp, and I don't have a problem with it.

I saw some serious chimping yesterday, clearly a Pro with a 1d taking a photo of a building in the city. She had either an assitant, or director, or someone else with her, she would take a shot, then they would take turns looking.

[Mills]

Yes I Do.

[Jesper]

Ofcourse, there's nothing wrong with chimping! :)

[neil_r]

Yup....but only to check the histogram.
Me too (he said lying through his teeth)

N

[Ikinaa]

Of course... who doesn't...
in the results, there's one who said no... hmmm either he/she doesn't know what chimping is or he/she is not telling the truth :cool:

[Turbowolf]

I don't chimp.

Since I know my equipment and how to use it, and I am after wildlife which is shoot or lose anyway, I can't take the time to look at each shot. I trust my training, the equipment and lady luck. It usually works out 90% of the time.

Now, I have been know to ape . . .

[iwatkins]

I do chimp, but usually during a pause in the action. Nothing wrong with quickly flipping though and deleting shots which are obviously all wrong.

If you didn't chimp, you might as well use film. :)

Cheers

Ian

[JAZZ D.P.G.]

Yep, I chimp.:o

Depending on where I am. Track or court side, no. I wait until I'm away from the action and in a safe place, then I will sort through the shots. I learned this watching someone else get injured for not paying attention, fortunately it was not serious.

Family, vacation, landscape or still life, just about 100%.

[sGu]

I chimp, especially when I'm shooting on assignment, histogram for one, also I'd like to see I got "THE SHOT", then I can move on to try different techniques and different style of shooting. Otherwise I'll keep chimping until I'm happy with it :p ... of course, based on not to miss any actions.

[Cadwell]

Yes, of course I do!

[dewmuw]

What me?

http://www.pbase.com/dewmuw/image/28124991.jpg


They call me Cheetah!!

[Brands]

Yes, of course I do!
LOL :p


and my answer would be yes as I've picked up some bad habits;)

[kawter2]

I usually chimp in bursts. I don't usually chimp immediately after taking the shot, but i do chimp in downtime to review the last 5-30 shots i took

[EoSD30fReAk]

I usually chimp in bursts. I don't usually chimp immediately after taking the shot, but i do chimp in downtime to review the last 5-30 shots i took
this is the way i chimp too ;)

[RichardtheSane]

Ooook

[dispatchermike21]

King Kong was a smaller chimp ( I know he was a Gorilla but I was going for size and don't know any big chimps who arn't in office ).

[iowahawkeye6]

I sure do.
I'm hungry, perhaps a banana? :)

[epeace]

I didnt know I chimped until I read this thread . . . . .

[Cadwell]

LOL :p

and my answer would be yes as I've picked up some bad habits;)

Right... from me I suppose? :rolleyes: I kinda think you worked out chimping all on your little lonesome :p

[thomascanty]

I glance at the LCD to check the histogram maybe about 60% of the time. Every once in a while when I have a little time available I'll go through and review the shots I have, but lately it's getting more and more rare for me to do that.

[RichardtheSane]

oook

Today I did an entire morning without even glancing at my histogram
I feel like I have achieved something here
OK, took under 100 shots but still.
Best think is I knew the exposure would be right because I know my camera and the lighting was also very good - it didn't even occur to me to have a chimp.

so today, my oook is reduced just a little

[Giant]

I didnt know I chimped until I read this thread . . . . .

Me too!!!

[RichardtheSane]

For those new to chimping

watch this

http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/

[Andy_T]

Hmmm. I don't. Should I?

Main reason is that the LCD is too small anyway to judge whether a shot is good or not. I have even turned off the review on my 20D.

My 2 year old son, however, does it for the two of us. Whenever I shoot a photo of him and his brother (6 months), he comes over to me and demands to see the photograph :lol:
So maybe I'm a forced chimper ...

Best regards,
Andy

[aam1234]

Hmmm. I don't. Should I?

Same here.

[blackviolet]

i do - mostly for histo... i have to work on the 'oooh! oooh!' sounds, though.

i am teaching my 11 year old the finer points of chimping on his canon s20 (or rather the 'what not to do's...') ;)

[belmondo]

I was watching the Condaleezza Rice hearings today, and there was a fellow with a Nikon right behind her just before the afternoon session, and he was merrily chimping away, oblivious to the world.

I thought of this thread when I saw it.

[theflyingkiwi]

I consider chipping very important, for a number of reasons.
1. I do it :) and I don't do dumb things :lol:
2. enables me to check the histogram, makeing sure that I don't over/under exposure.
3. the pros do it, so if I wont to be a pro I need to do the same things they do :lol:
4. it enables me to see how skills are coming along with framing etc.

[CaseyScofield]

I don't...but until I get my 20D I can't cause I'm only shooting film. sadly. . .:cry:

[KennyG]

I'm a confirmed histogram chimper. Having shot alongside a lot of pros and some members here, I can assure you that 100% of them chimp to some degree, no exceptions. Anyone who claims otherwise, shame on you, tell the truth, we know who you are. :)

[blinking8s]

I take my camera to classes and chimp so I don't fall asleep...

[karusel]

No, siree, last few times I was shooting I even didn't look at the histogram, I was simply busy trying to get the shots the way I wanted to get them.

[Penguin_101_1]

http://www.chimping.de/littlechimp2.jpg

[CoolToolGuy]

I will steal a comment that has been attributed to a different activity -

'There are those who admit that they do, and the liars.'

Have Fun,

[roanjohn]

Of course!!! All the time!!!

Ro1

[CyberDyneSystems]

I was watching the Condaleezza Rice hearings today, and there was **this senator asking her if she chimped a lot,... needless to say she denied ever doing it**

I thought of this thread when I saw it.

This is what really happened....

[CyberDyneSystems]

I never chimp.

[RichardtheSane]

CDS.....


OOOOOK???


ook.

[belmondo]

This is what really happened....

One thing we californians never discuss with people outside the Golden State is the fact that Barbara Boxer is one of our senators. She is the flesh and blood equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard.

If I ever take a picture of her, I promise not to chimp. Instead, I'll just go straight for the delete button.
:rolleyes:

[Penguin_101_1]

http://www.childrenwithspecialneeds.com/pecs/pictures/songs/clap.jpg

[Barb42]

I didn't pay $1500+ to pretend I don't need to check images. Its not a negative action, its a tool. Did you ever buy a hammer to just store in the basement and pretend you never need it? Pointless. I like to check the composition, the histogram, and other information. My job is to get the shot and be sure I do before I leave. If I wanted to wait until I got home I might as well have stayed with film and the lightbox. I prefer not to be a Luddite and will take whatever technology offers. Three cheers for chimping! And God bless the guy who invented it.

[Jon]

Histogram checking at the beginning of a burst, practically never for composition (what can you tell on that dinky screen, anyhow?), but maybe sometimes after the shooting's done to let someone else have a look pre-processing.

[intechpcx]

Absolutely I do it. Mostly because I am very much the amateur and I do it to check my technique. When shooting sports, usually my kids games, I do wait until there's a break in the action (time-out, end of period, etc) so as not to miss a shot. I don't however delete any pictures when I do it. One lesson I learned using a point-and-shoot digital years ago is that a shot that looks uninspired on the LCD may be hiding something that only appears when you see it full size.

[flyfishnj]

Hi everybody --


My name is John and I'm an Lcaholic and a chimper

[CyberDyneSystems]

Sorrounded by a pack of Chimpanzees...
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/chimp.gif

I feel like Charleston Heston for God's sake....

TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF ME
YOU DAMN FILTHY APEs

[Moppie]

Sorrounded by a pack of Chimpanzees...




Don't blame us because you failed to evolve :evil:



oh, oook, oook, oooook! Look! ook!

[PhotosGuy]

Me, too. Instant Polaroid!

[epeace]

I didn't pay $1500+ to pretend I don't need to check images. Its not a negative action, its a tool. Did you ever buy a hammer to just store in the basement and pretend you never need it? Pointless. I like to check the composition, the histogram, and other information. My job is to get the shot and be sure I do before I leave. If I wanted to wait until I got home I might as well have stayed with film and the lightbox. I prefer not to be a Luddite and will take whatever technology offers. Three cheers for chimping! And God bless the guy who invented it.I dont really chimp ever at all anymore . . i find it slows me down and kills my battery like nothing else . . i either got the shot or i didnt . . the moment has passed . .

that being said . . let me give a solid "WORD UP" to Barb42 for this response . .

there are occaisions when i do . . . only on a shoot for a client . . . the rules change then . . . when im after a precise list of shots that have to be "just so" according to the art director . . .
on a shoot my goal is basically this . . to get the shot in as few takes as possible . . its a production thing . . time is money and money is important if your shooting for it . . when you have 10-15 people gathered together in a collaborative effort and you're already looking at a 8-10 hour schedule . . you want to do your thing and get out . . cuz chances are there are other people who will put you behind schedule anyway (late models, fussy hairdressers, makeup ****s, broken sets, etc) . . . and the only way to make up time is shoot time . .

so in those situations . . chimp on my people . . . CHIMP ON :D

[CyberDyneSystems]

I didn't think anyone took it seriously ???http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/cower.gif

.... christ it's like talking to a room full of gibbons..

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/chimp.gif


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Medic1]

Guilty as charged, on occasion...especially if I only took one card with me (for whatever stupid reason)....and I want to conserve space

[Pamela107]

Yes
I do on occasion







ok, I give up, I do chimp!
LOL

Pamela

[Giant]

Come on, we all do it now and then. Just some more now than then. LOL!!

[Rob612]

Main reason is that the LCD is too small anyway to judge whether a shot is good or not. I have even turned off the review on my 20D.


Same here, the display is too small to really evaluate the shot (maybe its just me, I don't know). I ended up turning off the review also.

And yes, I had no idea of what was chimping anyway :D Now I learned something new, that is always a good thing. Thanks to everybody for the lesson.

[epeace]

I didn't think anyone took it seriously ???http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/cower.gif

.... christ it's like talking to a room full of gibbons..

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/chimp.gif


:lol: :lol: :lol:ha! . . i dont think anyone did until this thread . . .

[Jon, The Elder]

I have developed a method of turning my head 90° to the right and thereby being able to Chimp the last shot while simultaneously taking another - so it evolves into a constant chimping session.

I also keep in trim by peeking into keyholes during non-shooting times.

Any more brilliant threads I can contribute to?

[Big_B]

I never chimp. In an attempt to return to my evoloutionary roots, I have recently resorted to taking photos with my eyes shut.

[mdm]

Would that mean that I'm Chimp-Challenged?

[Barb42]

Of course, I paid enough for the ability to do so. I like to check composition and the histogram is critical. The image means little outside of composition, but the histogram is very important.

[primoz]

Yeah I usually do. Actually... if I remember right some definitions that chimping is looking on your lcd and letting out some weird mumbling noises, then I don't :)
But I do check (as rest of 90% accoring to this poll) before (or in between) race for exposure and rest of stuff since I usually don't dare to come back with too dark or too bright photos. But I don't check for every single photo I shoot. In sports I'm shooting it's too late anyway. You have shot or you don't have it, since usually there's no another chance when you have only one run :)

[mbze430]

I rarely chimp. I do it when its break time, or after a shoot.

[roanjohn]

With digital comes chimping..........I chimp after every shot!!!

Ro1

[epeace]

ya know . . i think the interpretation of chimping (here and even as told in the movie clip on sports shooter) is a bit osbcure . . .

is it the showing to someone else (sharing of recent shots - noises optional) or is it the mere checking every 10-20 shots or so?

i dont think looking after a shoot at the shots you took qualifies . . .

(after every shot. . thats a bit much . . hope you brought plenty batteries)

[CyberDyneSystems]

Some people insist its the other way around Epeace.. in fact most people try to argue that checking histograms is NOT chimping.. and it's just the reviewing so you can "ohh and ahh" over your photos that is "Chimping"


But both arguments... these are just excuses for the many of us that have barely fallen out of the trees and still use our knuckels to walk... :lol: :p ;)


Banana? http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/banana.gifhttp://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/banana.gif

[R1 Kid]

Of course you chimp, or at least you should chimp. Well sort of anyway. Unless your a seasoned pro, cockey, etc. As for looking at the pics. well the LCD isn't going to tell the story. The histogram is. I love the combo of a thumbnail type pic and the histogram on the same post-view screen. Personally I'm not good enough to not check the histogram. Maybe one of these days. Maybe one day I can call someone a snot-nosed chimping punk. Till then I will keep wiping my nose and chimping away... (just kidding by the way I would never call anyone a name or degrade their skills)

[jfrancho]

I do a lot of chimping during setup and taking test shots. Once I'm shooting, I turn the lcd off. When I'm through I'll review them if I dont have my laptop with me. There has been a couple of occasions where I ran out of memory, and had to cull the cards on the spot. I was very uneasy about deleting images before viewing them on screen.

[jukas]

I mainly only chimp to check the histogram, I don't even bother looking at the image on the LCD.

I did however catch myself peering dim-wittedly at the back of my EOS3 the other day though ;)

[Wazza]

I CHIMP and I LOVE it. :D

I used to look at every single shot. Now I only check a full zoom shot, to check that it's sharp and focused, and will check the histogram every few shots, especially when the sun comes out of the clouds, with changing light.

Sorry gotta go. Zoo keeper wants me back in my enclosure. OO ehh ooo ahh

[epeace]

Some people insist its the other way around Epeace.. in fact most people try to argue that checking histograms is NOT chimping.. and it's just the reviewing so you can "ohh and ahh" over your photos that is "Chimping"


But both arguments... these are just excuses for the many of us that have barely fallen out of the trees and still use our knuckels to walk... :lol: :p ;)


Banana? http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/banana.gifhttp://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2hdzu/pics/banana.gifah yes thats it precisely . . . its the "ooh-aah" factor that determines chimpness of your review (IMHO) . . . . thanks for clarifying (even if you were being sarcastic) :D . .

for those that deem legitimate review chimping as well . . you need only go all manual (if you havent already) to acheive full soul shooter status . . . . . . . . . you can then climb to the highest mountain and meditate on the righteous ways of renouncing all technological assistance . . . pack light . . all you'll need is your canonflex and a roll of velvia . . . . . and $15 for the mule . . . . .

: P

[CappuccinoDavid]

No I don't chimp, I'm still use to my film camera and don't think of looking at the screen. Maybe soon I'll start (if their is hope for me...

[Moments]

I do chimp to check the histogram every so often. I also do review the images every so often to do things like, checking for closed eyes in groups and other importaint shots and to see if I'm getting the action in the candids that I want. I delete the shots that don't work to cut down on the editing time back in the studio. The object in shooting digital for me was in part for that reason.

When I shoot in the studio, I do review the images every so often with the clients to get thier feedback on how they are feeling about the shoot. I build relationships with clients and in reviewing the shots durring the shoot I think it helps, especially when it comes to engagement sessions. The clients get to see how the slight changes we make affect the look of the image. I also don't have to worry about non-billable retakes. In the past 2 1/2 years, I have only had 1 retake for a corporate client that was billable as she ok'd the original shots at the end of the session.

Checking the images on the camera is basically like shooting a polaroid back in the old days, but it's a whole lot faster and cheaper.

[LazyPhotographer]

I rarely do - because I cannot see the LCD without my glasses!

[ravatm1]

Isn't it just another form of voyeurism and narcissism? We all want to think that we are doing something great and memorable.

[Titus213]

Nope! Too close to the film world yet and just not use to being able to. I do check the histogram frequently. That's not chimping. Is it?

[Kadath]

As the great american poet Flavor Flav says 'Chimpin aint easy'

Sam

[Bruce Hamilton]

I CHIMP and I LOVE it. :D

Same here... I chimp and I'm proud to admit it. :p

[belmondo]

Nope! Too close to the film world yet and just not use to being able to. I do check the histogram frequently. That's not chimping. Is it?

:lol: :lol:
It sure is. Welcome to the wonderful world of chimping. You're one of us.

[Conk]

Sure I do. Whoe cares? :) Not a big deal. I look at the screen but never determine what my shot is going to be like from it. That would be a waste of time.

[pyterps]

I do it...looking at the histogram.

[allanc]

I do a lot of cave photography. Chimping is the only way that I can tell what the exposure really looks like. I don't have a problem with it.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Cave Photography almost sounds like watching the Submarine Races.. :lol:

Actually,. I'd love to see some photos.

[pdrow]

I do chimp. I tried without and missed a whole night of a show I was shooting. I had checked in the beginning, but somehow I managed to turn the dial on the top of the camera. Now, I chimp. Maybe not after every shot, but often.
pam

[belmondo]

New statistic.....

Almost 10% of digital photographers lie about chimping. We have the data to prove it.

[Tundrasport]

Only to check the histogram........and I only subscribe to Playboy for the articles.:p

[20DNewbie]

Yup, but I don't recall making noises, lol.

[saravrose]

yes, I do chimp.. but i'm beginning to chimp less and less and i've completely stopped deleting shots before I see them on my laptop.... but, I don't think the day will ever come when I stop chimping all together.. nope. pretty certain I will never completely give it up... but hell, I don't smoke, I don't drink much.. I do have one too many espressos a week but, I feel relatively peaceful about my chimping habit.. doesn't bug me much...... actually doesn't bug me at all... nope.. But, admittedly if you're over the age of seven I won't show you shots before I've looked them over... ego, insecurity? doesn't really matter, I chimp my shots but nobody else is allowed....

sari

[20DNewbie]

^awfully selfish.:lol::lol::lol:

[Andy_T]

Haha, another thread from the vaults :D

Anybody know whatever happened to Penguin?
Gone for good or doing his subversions with a new ID?

Best regards,
Andy

[Nidz]

As much as I like to laugh at those who do it I admit i do it too.. I want to make sure those important shots are gonna at least look right when I get home and process them.. I'm not good enough to not look.. lol

[spiky_simon]

All the time, don't see anything wrong with it (unless you miss a shot while staring at the back of the camera :) )

[Jon, The Elder]

Of course! It is part of the capturing process and an excellent 'quick reference'. For a $50.00-$100.00 shot I'd be a damn fool not to. Just don't understand why people treat the subject as something to be shy/embarassed about.

When I take a break for coffee, I'll sit there and thumb through stuff just for the fun of it.

I also blow my nose in public (with kleenex in hand) and my wife has a shot of me scratching my butt. Politically correct is a VERY foreign term to me.

Remember, I'm a maverick anyway, in that I shoot naked horses and the pretty girls that ride them.