Editing the subject

[tommykjensen]

I have now noticed a couple of times that it is not possible to change the subject title.

The title is changed within the post itself but in the lists it remains the same?

[Pekka]

Only mods can edit main subjects. PM us if you want to change it.

[tommykjensen]

Can I ask whats the reason for that ?

Isn't that a little bureaucratic? I usually edit the subject if I update the main post, for example if I in a photo post have changed the photos, removed or added photos to the post. But I am not going to bother a MOD for a simple thing like that.

[kawter2]

Can I ask whats the reason for that ?

Isn't that a little bureaucratic? I usually edit the subject if I update the main post, for example if I in a photo post have changed the photos, removed or added photos to the post. But I am not going to bother a MOD for a simple thing like that.

Yea most other forms i belog to allow you to do this. it comes in handy when you add pics or want new perspective w/o creating a new thread

[Youngster]

It's the same on every Vbulletin forum - Why? I don't know.

I don't think it can be changed in the admin panel either, though I might be wrong.

[tommykjensen]

It's the same on every Vbulletin forum - Why? I don't know.

I don't think it can be changed in the admin panel either, though I might be wrong.

If that is the case allow me to say thats stupid! I see no reason in locking the subject from editing but allowing editing of the body text? That simply does not compute in my mind.

[Youngster]

If that is the case allow me to say thats stupid! I see no reason in locking the subject from editing but allowing editing of the body text? That simply does not compute in my mind.
Me neither... Oh well, Vbulletin is a nice system otherwise, but there are indeed a few beauty flaws.

[Moppie]

Iv been told that beacuse of the way VB builds and access the data base changing the thread title effectivly creates a new thread and should only be used occasionaly. Hence why only mods and admin have the ablity.

[tommykjensen]

Iv been told that beacuse of the way VB builds and access the data base changing the thread title effectivly creates a new thread and should only be used occasionaly. Hence why only mods and admin have the ablity.

Then I would say the designers of the database made a mistake.

[Youngster]

Then I would say the designers of the database made a mistake.
Exactly.

I bet it's just a wee bit of the code that has to be modified so that it overwrites the existing thread instead of making a new one. I wouldn't advice messing with the source code unless you're fully aware of what you're doing.

[4walls]

I just noticed this as well... very annoying. I am not going to pile up
messages to the moderators every time I feel like changing the title.
That could become a full time job for the mods.

[belmondo]

I just noticed this as well... very annoying. I am not going to pile up
messages to the moderators every time I feel like changing the title.
That could become a full time job for the mods.

We don't mind. ;)

[Pekka]

I just noticed this as well... very annoying. I am not going to pile up
messages to the moderators every time I feel like changing the title.

The point of the restriction is to prevent people changing titles after the discussion has been replied. It's not my software, and I'm not going to change that now - if you need title change PM me or mods. Simple. Other choice is merely to spend a little bit more time before hitting that post submit button.

NOTE: You CAN change the title after you have posted it. Just open the message and EDIT. After it has been replied the change is not allowed.

[tommykjensen]

Other choice is merely to spend a little bit more time before hitting that post submit button.


Well sometimes the need to edit the subject is because the main post has been edited.

But I am simple not willing to bother You or any moderator to edit the subject.

I understand that You don't want to change the software but I stand by my statement that the software is designed wrong when it is not possible to allow original poster to edit the subject after the post have replies.

[marie]

The point of the restriction is to prevent people changing titles after the discussion has been replied.


Tommy, I can see the point in this

someone maybe says something in angry mode about how the title is not completely correct
(or something )
and someone else denies it was ever in the subject title.
they maybe had changed it quickly.
all different kinds of reasons

I know what you mean exactly but it cuts both ways.
if we add on pictures (I have tried to do it myself so I do know) we can always say it inside the first post again.
in larger coloured letters so as the person viewing will understand
whatever the reason is .



as changing the title can't be done for reasons after the first reply
(as Pekka said.. it can be changed before the first reply)
there are other ways around it.

just say it in the first entry as an edit at the top and when the post is opened it will be seen.

I think that's the best of what can be done in that situation
http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[tommykjensen]

Tommy, I can see the point in this

someone maybe says something in angry mode about how the title is not completely correct
(or something )
and someone else denies it was ever in the subject title.
they maybe had changed it quickly.
all different kinds of reasons


But thats just the subject. It is still possible to edit the post and there a user can do more "damage" even post inappropriate photos etc.

My point is locking the subject but not the post is meaningless and won't prevent idiot useres from posting something and then change it claiming they never said that.

In my opinion users like that should be dealt with by a moderator rather than limiting all users from doing a specific action.

This is not a big issue and I can live with how it works. It just puzzled me.

[tommykjensen]

[color=darkred]I know what you mean exactly but it cuts both ways.
if we add on pictures (I have tried to do it myself so I do know) we can always say it inside the first post again.
in larger coloured letters so as the person viewing will understand
whatever the reason is .


Forgot to comment this ;) True but me for example I have changed the view of posts to display the latest on top, this means I will only see an updated first post if I scroll to the bottom of the page or the user has made a new post saying the first one is updated.

[marie]

But thats just the subject. It is still possible to edit the post and there a user can do more "damage" even post inappropriate photos etc.

My point is locking the subject but not the post is meaningless and won't prevent idiot useres from posting something and then change it claiming they never said that.

In my opinion users like that should be dealt with by a moderator rather than limiting all users from doing a specific action.

This is not a big issue and I can live with how it works. It just puzzled me.



(I hope I get it right about what you mean)


re the above,
the date change at the bottom of the entry will give some clue Tommy

if this is what you mean
quote > "won't prevent idiot useres from posting something and then change it claiming they never said that."
unquote

the person (wronged) has some evidence there which could mean there has been a change.... for better or worse
(if evidence if needed) after the initial entry

the time shown gives a fair idea if the post wording was changed after
also
what you say about any pictures
well, that could happen anyway, at any time and always could
that's where the mods. do the great job
they see it
they deal with it
that is not really a problem as it will happen no matter what

we already don't know all what the mods. have already done
and all in our precious names

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

"In my opinion users like that should be dealt with by a moderator rather than limiting all users from doing a specific action "

not sure how that would work
we all want to change so much and so often to suit our individual needs
most of all the new system works for everyone now in many ways.
the mods have a life too.
they are just like us here mostly , only they have to read everything.

that's enough to drive one bonkers ?
http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif


I guess all of us have to watch out for certain things http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
and if some problem can be suitably changed.
it is ..
when requested


as the saying goes :
you can't please all of the people all of the time
but some of the people some of the time


(I think that's how it goes)

:lol:



I hope that I understood you ok ( re the above) and replied accordingly

[marie]

Forgot to comment this ;) True but me for example I have changed the view of posts to display the latest on top, this means I will only see an updated first post if I scroll to the bottom of the page or the user has made a new post saying the first one is updated.

just saw this Tommy
sounds a bit awkward alright
I wonder can not the 'views setting' be changed again to be more suitable ?
you may find a way round it

[tommykjensen]

just saw this Tommy
sounds a bit awkward alright
I wonder can not the 'views setting' be changed again to be more suitable ?
you may find a way round it

I have chosen to see the oldest on top because it results in less scrolling so I would not want any change thee ;)

As I said this is not that big an issue, I will just not edit subjects like I did on the old forum.