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blenny2
17th of October 2002 (Thu), 23:06
Hi,

I'm a new user of D60, and looking for a RAW file editor.
The software, which is included with D60 is able to edit RAW image, but the function is very minimal.

Could somebody give me an advice regarding Canon RAW file editor?

Regards,

KEN

henkbos
18th of October 2002 (Fri), 04:29
Ken,

I don't think you should edit in RAW, but convert to TIFF first. After that you can play all you want in a variety of programs. BEsides the convertor that comes with the camera you can try Breezebrowser and YarcPlus. Both have trial versions that you can download.

God luck!

Roger_Cavanagh
18th of October 2002 (Fri), 04:51
Ken,

Canon don't want the raw file to be edited. They intend that it could be used as digital evidence, I believe that they are introducing some kind of "signature software" with the 1Ds.

As Henk says, convert from raw to TIFF and use the photo editor of your choice.

Regards,

blenny2
22nd of October 2002 (Tue), 02:03
Thanks for the advice, Henk and Roger,

I knew I could use to edit TIFF via some popular softwares, but I was wondering whether there is any quality disadvantege by editing TIFF than editing RAW.

Also if i could see a large image of RAW, it would be nice.
Since I think I can see only thumbnails RAW image by Canon's software, and I'm converting all RAW images I took into JPEG or TIFF, then deleting images (for both RAW and TIFForJPEG) I dont like.
This is kinda frustrating procedure.

If somebody could give me an advice on this, it would be appreciated.

Thanks,

KEN

henkbos
22nd of October 2002 (Tue), 02:12
You can see the full picture in RAW in Breezebrowser. Download an eval-version and check it out!

Roger_Cavanagh
22nd of October 2002 (Tue), 05:31
henkbos wrote:
You can see the full picture in RAW in Breezebrowser. Download an eval-version and check it out!

This is not strictly true. BB shows a preview display of the image, which is generally speaking good enough to determine which images to throw away, but will not be same quality that you get once the raw image is converted.

However, it will save you having to convert all the images just to weed them out. If you are looking for best quality then I recommend converting to 16-bit TIFF and do major edits in 16-bit and only convert to 8-bit when you have to.

The closest you can get to editing the raw image is to convert to 16-bit linear TIFF, which is a different ballgame again, but if you are interested and own Photoshop (full version) check out Fred Miranda's Linear Pro action http://www.fredmiranda.com/D60_LPbatch/index.html.

BB is highly recommended, a great product for only USD35.

Regards,

blenny2
23rd of October 2002 (Wed), 03:42
Thanks again, Henk and Roger,

I downloaded BB eval-version, and it looked nice.
I will probably get it soon.

Regarding editting TIFF. 16-bit leaner TIFF is too big to handle for me. I own full-version of Photoshop ver.6 and Canon Film scanner FS4000.
I tried to edit the 42-bit (14 bit / channel ) scanned data, but it was just too much.

Besides, I dont know if I can see the difference with my G-card and Monitor.
Is there any significant difference between editing 8-bit TIFF and 16-bit TIFF on usual PC?
I mean there must be a difference, but can we see the difference on our PC's monitor?

Regards,

KEN

Roger_Cavanagh
23rd of October 2002 (Wed), 08:28
Ken,

Take a look at this thread on Fred Miranda's forums were this issue was discussed
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=12190&page=0#105985.

In particular, check out the Bruce Fraser articles mentioned.

Bottom line, my credo is for best quality images shoot raw and stay in 16-bit as long as possible.

Regards,

blenny2
23rd of October 2002 (Wed), 22:25
Roger,

Thanks a lot.
That infomation is exactly what i was looking for.
I surfed on the net a little to find those info, but i couldn't.

I guess I stick with shooting RAW and just waiting for the time we can handle 16bit data more easily.

Regard,

KEN