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thenaturephotographer
23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 11:27
Hi everyone, I just got asked to do the photos for a cookbook, but I have NO idea of how to do the lighting/what lights to use/positioning the lighting or anything. Any help is greatly appreciated!

tim
23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 18:55
How'd you get the job if you have no idea to do it? Cheap bid?

A light tent will work wonders, a couple of lights pointed at the outside. Or strobes with soft boxes. You want some highlights.

Food photography is a specialist area, i'd google for advice, there's plenty out there.

thrash_273
23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 19:00
window light will work and its free.=D 45 deg.angle w/ reflector on opposite side. just play w/ the blinds.

DC Fan
23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 19:07
There are a couple of web sites (http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/food-photography-an-introduction/) that offer general guides to food photography. (http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2004/09/15/food_photos.html) However, getting good images of food has been as much a trick of "styling" the food to look good as getting the lighting, exposure and saturation right.

bsaber
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 01:55
I had a similar assignment awhile back and got some good advice. The shots came out alright. Here's the thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=488176

LBaldwin
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 02:34
I shoot lots of food and one very good book of recent work is by Lou Manna. He gives excellent Bg on several aspects of photo in general and specifc to shooting food
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Food-Photography-Lou-Manna/dp/1592008208/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216884759&sr=8-1

But I gotta say if you have never done food for publication before, make sure that you hire a real good stylist.

Gentleman Villain
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 04:54
I used to assist for a top food photographer. He probably lit 80% of the shots using a softbox as the mainlight and placed it behind the subject and pointed towards the camera. Then he placed a flag to make certain that the light didn't flare the camera and added a polarizer to the lens to dial out the reflections.

The mainlight from behind gives a nice even smooth light to the edges of the food and also provides a solid directional quality. It throws the shadows forward and gives some depth. Then he would add white foamcore cards to fill the shadows. Depending on the shot, he would use grids and mirrors to add more detail from the sides.

Try not to light food like you're taking a portrait. The same lighting concepts that apply to people don't necessarily make for the best food shots. Also, don't be too dramatic. Food usually doesn't look appealing when there are deep shadows. There are always exceptions but these are good general rules to follow.

Window light is great as long as the shadows are nicely filled.

Just a few thoughts.

MagicallyDelicious
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 04:56
Window light is great for this sort of thing.

RTMiller
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 06:51
45 deg.angle w/ reflector on opposite side.
That is how I did these.

http://rtmiller.smugmug.com/photos/281750103_VMVtK-M.jpg

http://rtmiller.smugmug.com/photos/281749849_EtQVF-M.jpg

http://rtmiller.smugmug.com/photos/281738616_c5r58-M.jpg

Collin85
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 06:57
Window light and 580EX roof bounce works well for me. Last time I used a second Speedlite, but that wasn't too necessary.

http://www.collinzphotography.com/photos/228204668_raNHU-M.jpg

http://www.collinzphotography.com/photos/208945126_BxLt6-M.jpg

http://www.collinzphotography.com/photos/233588247_g7waK-M.jpg

René Damkot
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 08:09
I'm with Gentleman Villain: Generally speaking, food should be backlit, and not too contrasty.
I agree on the getting a good food stylist if you've never done this before.

thenaturephotographer
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 11:19
thanks everyone for your great comments!!! I got the job because my friend is making the cookbook and she's like supported me in my developing photography and thinks i have the skill to do it. I think she's going to be very understanding, hopefully! lol. Not to get to off subject, but what lenses and such do you guys think are best? Thanks. PS. Those pictures are awesome!

RTMiller
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 11:33
what lenses and such do you guys think are best?

I used the 85L 1.2

Any good prime lens should do the job (85mm, 50mm, maybe even a 35mm). If all you have is a zoom, that would work too.

Collin85
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 11:52
thanks everyone for your great comments!!! I got the job because my friend is making the cookbook and she's like supported me in my developing photography and thinks i have the skill to do it. I think she's going to be very understanding, hopefully! lol. Not to get to off subject, but what lenses and such do you guys think are best? Thanks. PS. Those pictures are awesome!

From my experiences, a wide array of lenses work well. Output-quality-wise, it's the lighting and post-process which often makes the most difference. In the past, I've used the 28/1.8, 35L, 17-55 f/2.8 IS, 17-40L, 24-70L, 50/1.8 and 85/1.8. You're rarely shooting wide-open so most mid-high range zoom/primes are all sharp and contrasty when stopped down a bit.

thrash_273
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 12:46
That is how I did these.

http://rtmiller.smugmug.com/photos/281750103_VMVtK-M.jpg

http://rtmiller.smugmug.com/photos/281749849_EtQVF-M.jpg

http://rtmiller.smugmug.com/photos/281738616_c5r58-M.jpg
sure looks good and yummy.

Trainboy
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 13:08
I hate this thread, because it means I have to go make lunch now.

Wilt
24th of July 2008 (Thu), 13:28
Very nice food shots, but they would be more appetizing if steam was coming off the 'hot' food.

Azzure_7
25th of July 2008 (Fri), 07:59
Use TS lens to play w/ DOF.

tcphoto1
25th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:24
The lighting is underwhelming. I always suggest that people check out food magazines like Donna Hay or any Martha Stewart publication. There are distinct styles that are popular whether Editorial or Commercial. The food must be prepared well and plated in an interesting manner. Your fish is charred on the top and raw in the middle. The pyramid of scallops is not something you would see in any restaurant. You had interesting plates but you cropped them at strange angles.

I shoot food www.tcphoto.org so I know the challenges of the genre. The most important part is finding a Stylist if you cannot do it yourself.

Gentleman Villain
25th of July 2008 (Fri), 11:09
The lighting is underwhelming. I always suggest that people check out food magazines like Donna Hay or any Martha Stewart publication.

Martha Stewart almost always has great photography...good call



I shoot food www.tcphoto.org (http://www.tcphoto.org) so I know the challenges of the genre. The most important part is finding a Stylist if you cannot do it yourself.

nice work!