RE:Capture 1 for 20D Available

[eosster]

FYI,

Finally, Capture 1 Canon 20D(update) for Windows version is available. I am downloading LE version.

Cheers,

Charles,

[pierrot]

Uhh... you mean here, I guess ?
http://www.phaseone.com/content/downloads/c1%20for%20windows.aspx
or here
http://www.phaseone.com/content/downloads/c1%20for%20mac.aspx

[eosster]

Thanks for the link....

[cmM]

holy sh!t, I can't believe it! lol

Now I'm excited.... gotta buy the upgrade soon. AAAAAHHHH dammit i crashed my car now have to pay for that too. I'm doomed.

[blinking8s]

just how good is C1? Ive only used the Canon software (breifly) then got photoshop CS...so I am clueless

Ive read reviews but they all seem the same...

[edsarkiss]

C1 is sweet -- especially if you go out and shoot a bunch of RAW images and then want to tweak/process a bunch of them once you're back to your machine.

this is my favorite feature -- thumbnails are arranged on the left, preview in the center, and adjustment pallettes on the right. select any thumbnail, tweak, and move on to another. any adjustment you make to one (e.g. color balance, sharpening, etc.) may be instantly applied to any number of other images. once things are where you like, you can batch-process the files.

if you like to just work on one at a time, you can work on an image while C1 is processing another.

i tried a bunch of the converters out there, and C1 just works how I want to. That's not to say it's perfect for everyone -- it fits me well though. Try the demo.

[4walls]

just how good is C1? Ive only used the Canon software (breifly) then got photoshop CS...so I am clueless

Ive read reviews but they all seem the same...
I just started using C1. Now I shoot everything RAW. This is great software
and once you start using it, you will wonder why everyone doesn't shoot RAW.

[Jesper]

I've had Capture One for a long time, for converting my 10D RAW images.
It's nice, but I like Canon Digital Photo Professional 1.5 better.

I've installed Capture One LE v3.6 yesterday, but the differences with the previous version (3.5.2) are only minor. No great new features, besides support for the 20D and other new cameras, which I don't need anyway....

When there's going to be a paid version upgrade in the future, I'm not going to pay for it.

You can download a trial version of Capture One and try out for yourself if you like it.

[KennyG]

just how good is C1?

C1 is THE tool for RAW conversion. It is quick and accurate with the ability to run conversions while you are still browsing and adding more to the batch. Add to that the crop tool and image controls and there is nothing to touch it out there at the moment. ACR is nowhere near as good a tool if speed of workflow and accuracy of conversion is your aim.

[cmM]

It's nice, but I like Canon Digital Photo Professional 1.5 better.I have DPP 1.5 and still like C1 Pro better. I think it's the best workflow out there, but I guess in the end it's just a matter or prefference.

[Luvwine]

C1 Pro is rather expensive. Any reason to get the Pro version if you are not doing a high volume of images?

[Jesper]

C1 Pro is rather expensive. Any reason to get the Pro version if you are not doing a high volume of images?You can download a PDF file with a comparison of the different versions of Capture One here: http://www.phaseone.com/upload/comparison_chart_003.pdf

The differences between the versions are minimal and if you don't really need to be able to put more than 20 images in a batch (I almost never need to), it's not worth it to pay the huge price difference, in my opinion.

Download the trial version and try it out, and see if you like it better than Canon Digital Photo Professional, which you get for free from Canon. Don't spend $100 or even more on a program if you don't feel it's worth it.

[Luvwine]

Thanks, Jesper. I am still rather new to post processing in general--especially raw conversion. I have read some criticisims of the raw conversion quality under DPP, but I cannot confirm or deny these allegations based upon my own limited observations. I have used DPP and have 1.5. C1 seems to be the consensus choice for ease of use, but I am most concerned about quality of conversion issues.

Best,

Luvwine

[ssim]

This is good news for those 20D owners that have been waiting too long for this release.


There are some issues with 3.6 for the 1D cameras in this release. You might want to check out http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=28 for the most reported issues.

I will stay with 3.5.2 for the time being as I don't see that great an advantage to this given what I am seeing on their support forum.

[Jesper]

Thanks, Jesper. I am still rather new to post processing in general--especially raw conversion. I have read some criticisims of the raw conversion quality under DPP, but I cannot confirm or deny these allegations based upon my own limited observations. I have used DPP and have 1.5. C1 seems to be the consensus choice for ease of use, but I am most concerned about quality of conversion issues.I recall that some people were noting problems with some 20D images, but I don't know if that was only with earlier versions of DPP than 1.5 or not. Ofcourse, people have their preferences, and C1 is easy to use, but I find DPP not more difficult or cumbersome, and DPP is free, while C1 costs more than $100. So try it before you spend your money...

I don't think it's a good idea to use a program because it's a "consensus" - you should use the program that suits you best, not what others tell you to use......

[tacos3]

It's about freakin' time. I bought an upgrade to C1 rebel in November when I bought my 20d. Been using DPP 1.5 since. DPP isn't bad, but it's nowhere near the capabilities of C1. I downloaded this morning and man, you don't what you've got till it's gone...that would make a good line in a song....

Anyway....back to using C1 in the workflow and I wish the PRO version was a tad cheaper...

Darren

[drisley]

I was a devoted C1 Pro user when I had my DRebel. But, because of the long delay of 20D support with C1 Pro, Ive been forced to use Photoshop CS with Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) 2.3.
ACR 2.3 is vastly improved over the older versions that I previously tried and disliked because of high noise levels and colour inaccuracies.I've really grown to like the workflow and more importantly, the quality, of ACR 2.3. The colour has improved with each version, and now 2.3 has colour accuracy that is just as good as C1 Pro imho.
I just gave the new C1 Pro a try and I have to say, I like ACR 2.3 so much better. The image quality is very close, but C1 Pro still exhibits blotching in high saturation red areas, a problem that existed even with the old versions.
The workflow of ACR 2.3 is much more to my liking, and the conversion of Raw with ACR is SO much faster than with C1 Pro... I forgot how slow C1 actually was.
Anyway, if it wasn't for the delay in 20D support, I probably would still be a C1 user as I wouldnt have tried the new, improved ACR. However, what works for me may not be best for others.

[KennyG]

The issues with 3.6 are, in the main, for people upgrading from 3.5.x and it is due to picking up the old settings with the new version. The fix is very simple: Workflow - All Capture Settings - Reset. Clear out the cache from 3.5.2 before upgrading as well.