Help with printing from DPP with Epson RX 580

[Tee Why]

Went from a Canon i860 to the Epson RX 580 and I'm having some color issues.

First of all, I calibrated with Heuy and in DPP's Preference, picked color to Huey, and the Epson RX series profile. I used Relative colorimetric when I've selected the Epson RX printer profile.


When I print with DPP, I select print with details and am printing with Epson Premium Photo Paper Glossy, photo RPM, and under color management I'm selecting ICM and clicking on the "OFF(no color adjustment)."

Basic thing I notice is that the colors seem to come out dark and maybe a touch blue.

Any suggestions?
Thanks.

[-Douglas-]

I don't no if I can be much here because I don't know about the Epson printer or the driver:p When you print out of DPP, what color space are you using? Does your printer handle larger than sRGB color space? In DPP prefs., are you setting the "printing profile" to the printer profile or the printer paper profile? Needs to be set to the paper profile. Kind of sounds like the printer driver is taking over instead of DPP. Any thoughts?

[René Damkot]

First of all, I calibrated with Heuy and in DPP's Preference, picked color to Huey,
As the Monitor profile to use, I suppose? ("for display")
and the Epson RX series profile. I used Relative colorimetric when I've selected the Epson RX printer profile.
"Printing Profile" I again suppose?

When I print with DPP, I select print with details and am printing with Epson Premium Photo Paper Glossy, photo RPM, and under color management I'm selecting ICM and clicking on the "OFF(no color adjustment)."

Sounds good. What's "photo RPM"?

Is the "Epson RX series profile" the right one, meant for the "Epson Premium Photo Paper Glossy"? (Don't know the printer, but the R2400 has specific profiles for specific papers; I'd expect this one to be the same).

That being said, AFAIK, DPP doesn't show a softproof for the printers profile, so that will make another difference.

What light are you viewing the prints in?

[Tee Why]

First of all. Big thanks for those helping me out.

Ok, just talked with the tech guy at epson. He had me print with MS windows picture and fax viewer. In the print options, he had me pick "color management" and select the default "Epson Vivid" and it's colors were very close.

Now as for DPP, under tools and preferences, I have the following
"work color space" to sRGB,
"color matching settings" to Huey
"Printing Profile" to Stylus RX 580
"rendering intents" to relative colorimetric.

Now when I press "print with details" I get the Epson's printer preferences
and I'm picking Epson premium photo paper glossy (which I have)
"Photo PRM" for the highest quality
for "Color Management" I was selecting "ICM" and then clicking on to turn off the color adjustment.

Now Under "color management", I'm selecting "color controls" and then selecting "Epson Vivid" for Color Mode and then turning the brightness up to +8 and am now finding that this is closer to what I'm seeing on my monitor.

I'm viewing the prints under flourescent lights at work but taking it outside into the sun as well. It's a touch better under the sun, but not as easy in terms of getting the colors right as was with my Canon i860.
I'm wondering if others have any other workflow.

[-Douglas-]

First of all. Big thanks for those helping me out.
Your welcome, too bad I couldn't be of more help, don't have Epson!
Still sounds a little screwy though--IMHO!

Where are all the Epson experts, I see on the printer threads, when you need em?:D:D:D

[Tee Why]

I'm a bit bummed b/c my old Canon i860 seems to give better colors once I had the monitor calibrated. I didn't need to do much more after that.

I heard about the higher resolution and the better colors with the new Epson Claria system using the 6 ink dyes but so far the colors seem more muted. I'm a bit dismayed why using the ICM instead of the default Epson color management yields worse results.

At least the colors are almost right now.

[-Douglas-]

At least the colors are almost right now.
and if you are like me, that will never be good enough!!!!

[René Damkot]

I'm wondering if others have any other workflow.

Don't know that particular printer, but when I use the R2400, I print from Photoshop, letting PS determine colors, printers color management off, using the specific paper/printer profile in PS.
I get a very good softproof to screen match. (which might be different from 'normal" screen to print, depending on the colors in the image!)

I'm a bit confused about this bit:

"Printing Profile" to Stylus RX 580...
I get the Epson's printer preferences and I'm picking Epson premium photo paper glossy

For the R2400, there's an actual profile for each type of paper used, and that's the profile I set in PS as printr profile. Not some generic "R2400 profile", but a paper specific one for that printer...

In the link from my sig there are a few links about printing. Including one on an Epson 3800 printer. Might help a bit.

[Tee Why]

Thanks for your response. Under Printer Preferences, you can pick the paper used and since I'm using an Epson Premium Glossy photo paper, that's the type of paper I picked.

I tried printing with PSE too and found it gave a green cast.

I think I'm going to sell this and go back to Canon. Man I guess I'm turning into a Canon fanboy.

[Lowner]

I use the Epson generic driver and I do not recognise some of the OP's procedure at all, particularly where the Huey profile is concerned, because why does that have anything at all to do with printing?

Theres nothing wrong with Epson printers in my view, and the help Epson offer cannot be bettered.