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ugly_a
31st of July 2008 (Thu), 19:09
First of all, it’s been hell trying to select which tripod I need. After reading countless posts about tripods on this forum, there are several schools of tripod owners categorized in the following:

I. I like using the best group
Mr. Belmondo with multiple tripod purchases, cough cough. :) ben_r_ with new legs and ballhead. And RRS L plate. And clamp. And flash bracket. And ... ? :)

Anyway, this group goes for Gitzo carbon fiber 6x with various combinations of supported weight class, rigidity, and portability. Ballhead of choice seems to be Markins or RRS BH series. Costs run 800 bucks minimum for a set of legs and a ballhead.

II. I am buying cheapest tripod possible group
Goes for no-name tripods with non-detachable head. Less than $100, all aluminum (steel?) legs.

III. I love Manfrotto 190/055 + 488rc2 group
Largest group here I think. Buys the combination above. Great review by dlivelyphotography as listed on the how to choose a tripod faq. Costs $250-$300.

IV. I want to be in group I but I can’t/won’t spend that much money group
Spends somewhere between group III and group I, buying carbon fiber tripods made from Slik, Feisol, Benro, Amvona, etc. Actually, I think Amvona might be cheaper than III.

V. I don’t need no stinkin’ tripod group
Costs $0. Good for them.

So, I wanted to be in group IV but wanted Gitzo. Now, if you’re not in one of these groups, your quest for finding the right tripod here in the forums is a treacherous one due to lack of information. In short, I ended up with Gitzo 2941 basalt fiber legs for $300. The best set of information I found was B&H website with their specification tabs of the tripods combined with user reviews from all over the web. If you’re looking for a tripod and are not in any of those groups, I recommend that you take a look at basalt fiber legs from Gitzo or the explorer 2 series.

With that intro out of the way, off we go onto the Gitzo 2941 review.

Cost from Canoga:
Gitzo 2941 - $300
Manfrotto 488rc2 - $100
Shipping - $12 UPS

Total - $412

Note that this tripod is a discontinued model. Gitzo 2942 replaces this model.

Gitzo 2941 “Reporter” tripod is made with basalt fiber, supposedly as good in rigidity as carbon fiber but heavier. It has 4 sections with regular G-lock and removable, reversible center column. I’m not sure if basalt fiber can dampen vibration at all, but by the feel of the material (feels like a soft rock, doesn’t bend much) I don’t think there will be as much vibration dampening as carbon fiber models. Other relevant specs:

* Supports upto 22lbs
* 66.1” maximum height
* 53.5” height, column not extended
* 22” folded length
* 3.7lbs

Everyone worries about the weight of their tripod. 3.7lbs is heavy but not bad. With 488rc2, the tripod comes in at hair above 5lbs. What more can you expect out of a non-carbon fiber tripod? In comparison, 055xprob + 488rc2 is 6.5lbs, 1541T + Markins Q3 is 3lbs, and 2540 + Markins M10 is ~4lbs. Not really for extended hiking unless you have a nice bag, but it’s very easy to lug around for couple hours at a time.

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When folded and closed, this tripod spans length of 4 pens - about 25”. The legs are black like the Manfrotto tripods, but it seems to have a lot of reflective properties like a shiny rock.

ugly_a
31st of July 2008 (Thu), 19:10
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The tripod works exactly like other regular Gitzo tripods. It has a removable center column with leg locks near the top to keep the legs at 24 degrees. Gitzo 2941 is able to get into two different angles - 24 and 60 degrees. Gitzo 2492 which replaces this model has one more angle to lock the legs at 88 degrees.

One thing that was strange from the cheapie tripod that I had before was that the legs move independently, and is very stiff. It’s very awkward to open up the legs to the desired angle without using the center column as leverage. I guess it really isn’t a problem for someone who has used a decent tripod with independent leg spreads before, but this definitely adds to the initial set-up time along with the twisting G-locks. Perhaps it will improve over time.

ugly_a
31st of July 2008 (Thu), 19:11
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When the tripod is fully extended, center column not extended and camera attached to the ballhead, the viewfinder stays at about 5’11" - 6’0" above ground. With center column removed viewfinder is at about 5’6” - 5’7”. The Gitzo tripods that have “L” in its designation are definitely too tall for most people. If you’re an average person 3 section tripods should suffice. One of the selling points of 3-section tripod is also that it is more “stable” than the 4-section ones so there’s another advantage.

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Ground set feature is what I like best about this tripod. Most Gitzos have this feature actually, I assume others as well. I can remove the center column entirely. How you do this, check out ben_r_’s review of 1451T, his pictures are a lot sexier than mine. With this feature I can get my camera even lower, and not have to worry about damaging the center column when setting the tripod on the ground with legs extended at 60 degrees.

ugly_a
31st of July 2008 (Thu), 19:11
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This is my heaviest load - 70-200mm f/4. Let me tell you, this tripod setup is definitely overspending if 70-200 f/4 is the heaviest load in your gear. It felt too stable with the load on the tripod ring and the legs extended, so I moved the quick release plate onto the camera and shortened the legs. It is still quite stable in this configuration, and there is no creep that I can see.

Overall, this setup is pleasant to use and very sturdy. The weakest link in this setup is the ballhead. There is certain amount of movement when the quick release is secured onto the head. Although the tripod itself is stable, I can imagine that the camera may be prone to shake when there is a gust of wind or something. Unfortunately, I can’t see myself getting Markins ballhead yet - maybe in couple of years, or when I really get frustrated with the quick release one day.

I hope this information has been helpful to someone. Basalt fiber line in Gitzo is an excellent run for the money, and if you’re set on getting quality tripod without feeling guilty about spending 800+ dollars, this is it. Any questions or comments I will try to be helpful.

ben_r_
31st of July 2008 (Thu), 22:34
Ha ha! Its true I AM a type I personality!

Excellent review! Thanks for giving back to the community! I have never even seen what the Basalt Gitzos look like, so this was very interesting for me! I think you have yourself a nice setup there! Congrats!

Dont forget to PM René Damkot and have your review added to the tripod review thread HERE (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53864).

Riff Raff
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 00:04
Current group V member. Hoping to join the herd in group III at some point though. Nice review. :-)

René Damkot
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 01:03
Dont forget to PM René Damkot and have your review added to the tripod review thread HERE (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53864).
Already added it ;)

devil350
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 06:47
Hi,

First of all thanks for that great review (adding pics added some great extras to your review!).

I think I was in the group III with some ideas of the group I.
Now thanks to you ;-) , I think I'll be in the same group as you.
I've the same head you're using, and I was looking for a great tripod to replace my Velbon, I was looking at the Manfrotto 055 for the great Quality/Price combo, but now with this review I have to make my choice...

Thanks again for sharing your great experience with us, this is really usefull ;-)

Ciao,
Laurent.

ben_r_
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 08:44
Already added it ;)
Awesome!

TheHoff
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 08:55
Do these have the same G-Locks as the CF series? If so, the basalts should be a good way to get the same quality with a bit more weight.

ugly_a
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 09:02
Yes, as far as I can tell the G-locks are the same.

Mr_Bester
1st of August 2008 (Fri), 10:12
I have that ball head and cam/lens combo(but I have the ancient 3021 legs). There didn't seem to be any creep until I tried a 15 sec exposure. Then I notice a lovely downward motion blur. Obviously, i'm going to be getting the ring soon:)

Great review.

Jannie
19th of May 2009 (Tue), 09:44
Will the top plate on the column fit a RSS BH-55LR ball head. I'm wanting to go heavier for mostly table top shooting and portrait stuff so the slightly added weight of the Basalt over carbon isn't an issue. Category 1 here, I love the RSS heads and like the idea of using the larger ball setup.