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thisisgazza
21st of January 2005 (Fri), 13:09
Hi everyone,

Can you please advise me on what camera is best for taking a photo at A2 size. Im wanting to create some stock art imagery to sell to companies wanting this type of service(like gettyimages or digital visions), So im after a camera that will be able to print out at A2 300dpi with no compramise in quality.
Im not looking for fancy over the top features full camera, just somthing that has the usual manual focus,shutter speeds etc... Im graphic designer by trade so i can pritty much simulate any effects via photoshop.

I have had a look on this site and its fantastic, with very good indepth reviews, but then there been compared with others and so on and it gets abit confusing.

thanks for your help people :)

Jon
21st of January 2005 (Fri), 13:19
If you want that resolution (which works out to 34 MP) right out of the camera, you'll need a digital back for a view camera, or else drum-scans of film. If you're willing to go to post-processing, it depends on how much post-processing you're willing to go with. But don't count on being able to simulate any direct photo effect in post-processing. There are often subtle differences between an effect as captured on "film" and one resulting from post-processing, and sometimes these differences can be critical. Why not check with the stock agency you'd like to go with and see what they require? If you know what their specs are, it'll narrow down your search considerably.

tim
21st of January 2005 (Fri), 15:09
I have a 300D. I just printed a photo 32 x 20 inches at only 100dpi, and it still looks very good unless you stick your head right next to it and look for flaws. You'll need a very high end camera to do what you've specified abolve, like Jon says, so I suggest compomising a bit. 20D is good, or the 1D Mk II is much higher resolution of you can afford it.

thisisgazza
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 10:04
Hi,
i have snet an email to the stock agency asking how to go about it. Hopefully they will answer all the questions.Iv got a feeling they will probably be after negatives in order to get a good quality at A2 size.
what are your thoughts on the the FujiFilm S7000. Would that create some good photo's or is there better for around the same money.

Thanx again people

davidwegs
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 10:14
The s7000?

That's going to leave a lot to be desired.

I would suggest at the very least a Drebel or six MP DSLR. You probably need a Kodak 14c/n or a 1Ds MkII to get close to your intended goal.

These will interpolate up to the size you want fairly well.

What do you shoot now? If you shoot film, go MF. and give scans. ?

thisisgazza
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 13:12
Hi,
right thought i would make everything clear. Im not a photographer, and really dont have any experience in this field.Obviously i have taken pictures with my own 2.1 megapixel camera, but not on a professional basis.
My aim is to take photos' in which i can overlay graphics or cut out a particular piece of the image and do graphics around that. Somthing along the lines of these below.
http://www.digitalvision.com/asset_previews/images/previews_copyright/640003.jpg
http://www.digitalvision.com/asset_previews/images/previews_copyright/603041.jpg

But i also want to do photo's without any computer graphic them just plain photo's.

I checked out a few of those camera's. The Drebel one, i take it its the cannon(Canon EOS 300D / Digital Rebel)? not sure what the Mp DSLR is?
Couldnt find the kodak one but i imagine it will cost around the same as the MkII which is well out of my price range :(

Not sure if this mini adventure will work out for me so dont want to spend too much on the equipment, so around £400($800)

thanx for ya help :)

Movinfr8
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 17:29
Hi,
i have snet an email to the stock agency asking how to go about it. Hopefully they will answer all the questions.Iv got a feeling they will probably be after negatives in order to get a good quality at A2 size.
what are your thoughts on the the FujiFilm S7000. Would that create some good photo's or is there better for around the same money.

Thanx again people
I was going to go with the S7000 and really liked it. Then my boss (wife) ok'd spending twice as much on the Drebel, and I jumped at the chance! I like the s7000 a LOT for the consumer features it has, but it is hard to compare it to a DSLR. Neither would be acceptable to an agency looking for 35MP captures, but both are sufficent for my needs. But then my needs are shots of my daughter, portraits, etc and playing around with a camera again!
Oh, and Hi everybody, I've been lurking and looking for a couple of weeks, but yet to have anything that to contribute till now.
Norm.
P.S. If youre going to go with the S7000, I heard they are discontinued, replaced by a S20pro, or something like that. It is built on the same body, faster software.
Norm

Canuck
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 17:45
Just bear this in mind...$800 is not a lot to spend! The DSLR will not come with a lens, lest you get the 300D/Digital Rebel kit or 20D kit. The 20D is about $1300-$1400 from a reputable dealer. I don't see this in the cards. :rolleyes:

thisisgazza
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 18:19
ooops your boss is your wife....no sciving off work then ;) hehehe

yeh iv been told on another forum to not go for the S7000 but go for the Canon 300D. They didnt seem to think the camera was upto scratch at all for what im after, and they sugested that this camera would be good for that price range.

Any other sugested ideas?

thanx :)

Jesper
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 18:20
I checked out a few of those camera's. The Drebel one, i take it its the cannon(Canon EOS 300D / Digital Rebel)? not sure what the Mp DSLR is?
Couldnt find the kodak one but i imagine it will cost around the same as the MkII which is well out of my price range :(

Not sure if this mini adventure will work out for me so dont want to spend too much on the equipment, so around £400($800)Yes, "DRebel" is short-hand for the Canon EOS Digital Rebel (outside the USA the same camera is called Canon EOS 300D).

"Mp DSLR" is not the name of a camera. When David said "six MP DSLR" he meant a Digital Single Lens Reflex (SLR) camera with 6 megapixels (MP). The Digital Rebel is a DSLR with 6 megapixels, and there's also the Canon EOS 10D, which is the "big brother" of the Digital Rebel. The 20D has eight megapixels and is the successor to the 10D.

You will not find a digital camera, certainly not for $800, that will give you an A2-size, 300 pixels per inch image right out of the camera. A2 size is 16.5 x 23.4 inches. A 300 pixels per inch image at A2 size has 16.5 x 300 x 23.4 x 300 = 34.7 megapixels. Even digital backs for medium format cameras, which cost $20,000 or more have "only" 22 megapixels.

That doesn't mean you can't make really good poster-size prints with something like the Digital Rebel or 20D, however.

thisisgazza
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 20:51
thanks for clearing that up jasper :)

I have been looking at the Olympus E-300 and its seems to have had some pritty good reviews. it is stretching the budget alittle but its had some good reviews and it gets me into that 8 megapixel bracket which gets me alittle more quality for my money....its around £600($1000). so what do you think about this camera. Do you think its a good choice? i cant really put any more money above that but obviously later on i can buy extras for the camera when i get the funds to do so.

Thanx again for ya help, really apreciate it :)

tim
22nd of January 2005 (Sat), 23:06
My photography tutor recommended the E-300 to me, IIRC. That's the one with the sensor clean built in, and using the 4/3 system? I was too impatient to wait for it, plus I like Canon cameras for some reason.

Movinfr8
23rd of January 2005 (Sun), 12:49
ooops your boss is your wife....no sciving off work then ;) hehehe



I think most of our honest married forum members would agree, it doesn't matter where you work, your boss IS your wife!!:o
Norm