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Candid Bandit
23rd of January 2005 (Sun), 16:39
I love getting pictures of subjects walking. Most of the time while walking, rather you notice or not, usually your thinking about somemthing. If its nice and pleasent people can see. If its sad and unpleasent, people can also see. Candid facial expression is a very important factor in my photos.

i did this in color and black and white to kind of understand why most people consider b&w to be artistic while color isin't in many cases. I for one love the color ones much much more. Opinions please..

http://img183.exs.cx/img183/9564/mg4978s8hy.jpg (http://img183.exs.cx/img183/6464/mg49780st.jpg) http://img183.exs.cx/img183/8343/mg4978bs8ar.jpg (http://img183.exs.cx/img183/7939/mg4978b3tn.jpg)

meow
23rd of January 2005 (Sun), 20:54
I just have to post this link. This guy agrees with you and takes it one step further. It's a fun read. :p
http://www.simonhoegsberg.com/

I like your pictures. I've never been able to do that. Even if I use a long tele, people immediately turn towards me and s_t_a_r_e... *shudder* :cry:

Candid Bandit
26th of January 2005 (Wed), 20:05
Thanks for link... I like his style alot.
Seem like no one really cares for this shot here.

Rendezvous
26th of January 2005 (Wed), 20:21
CandidB, I think the shot is good, but maybe zoomed out a little? I don't know really, I don't have experience in that sort of shot.

Don't be discouraged by a lack of replies.

Ballen Photo
26th of January 2005 (Wed), 20:32
Bandit, I agree with you about expressions and expressive face's 100%.
The eyes are the windows to the soul. :cool:


Seem like no one really cares for this shot here.

Patience please Grasshopper. :lol: I try to look at as many photos as I can, and I'm sure lots of others here do too. On rare occasions though I just find myself speechless. ;)

Meow, Thanks for taking the time to post that link, but I'll have to try again later. It seems to be broken for me at the moment. :(
-Bruce

PacAce
26th of January 2005 (Wed), 21:36
I love getting pictures of subjects walking. Most of the time while walking, rather you notice or not, usually your thinking about somemthing. If its nice and pleasent people can see. If its sad and unpleasent, people can also see. Candid facial expression is a very important factor in my photos.

i did this in color and black and white to kind of understand why most people consider b&w to be artistic while color isin't in many cases. I for one love the color ones much much more. Opinions please..

http://img183.exs.cx/img183/9564/mg4978s8hy.jpg http://img183.exs.cx/img183/8343/mg4978bs8ar.jpg

Converting a color picture to B&W usually does not result in an "artistic" picture. On the contrary, the B&W picture will usually look drabbier than the colored counterpart. What B&W images need to make an impact, and more so if the subject matter itself doesn't provide it, is an exaggeration of lighting contrasts. Here's an example. Although it's not that great, I'm sure you'll agree that it's a little better than your straight B&W conversion. And this image was based on your B&W image. Since it was the expression on the face that's of real interest, that's what I tried to emphasize.

Candid Bandit
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 13:24
Converting a color picture to B&W usually does not result in an "artistic" picture. On the contrary, the B&W picture will usually look drabbier than the colored counterpart. What B&W images need to make an impact, and more so if the subject matter itself doesn't provide it, is an exaggeration of lighting contrasts. Here's an example. Although it's not that great, I'm sure you'll agree that it's a little better than your straight B&W conversion. And this image was based on your B&W image. Since it was the expression on the face that's of real interest, that's what I tried to emphasize.

Ahhh... I see I see.. Much much better when you did it. I'll try again on my next post. Thanks!

stealth
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 14:28
http://www.sportpictures.co.uk/pics/test.jpg

The beauty of black and white is the strength of the tonal range that is available.

When converting from colour into B&W you have to take into account the depth of the tonal range available and attempt to recreate it.

IMO the modification with the highlight on the face looks completely false and does nothing for the image. I have presented above a conversion which I have done from the colour file to a B&W.

If you would like to know the technique that I use then do ask. Its not difficult and I think personally it creates great results! In summary your original conversion lacked @PUNCH@

PacAce
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 15:53
http://www.sportpictures.co.uk/pics/test.jpg

The beauty of black and white is the strength of the tonal range that is available.

When converting from colour into B&W you have to take into account the depth of the tonal range available and attempt to recreate it.

IMO the modification with the highlight on the face looks completely false and does nothing for the image. I have presented above a conversion which I have done from the colour file to a B&W.

If you would like to know the technique that I use then do ask. Its not difficult and I think personally it creates great results! In summary your original conversion lacked @PUNCH@

Not to start a war here but you could have commented on your own technique without the negative comments about mine. As is always the case with any picture, especially with B&W, they can be interpretted many differnt ways. That doesn' make one better than the other. But I still prefer my own interpretation (and this is just one version of many I can easily come up with) and will leave it at that.

Candid Bandit
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 15:57
Not to start a war here but you could have commented on your own technique without the negative comments about mine. As is always the case with any picture, especially with B&W, they can be interpretted many differnt ways. That doesn' make one better than the other. But I still prefer my own interpretation (and this is just one version of many I can easily come up with) and will leave it at that.

True, very true.. Both versions from you and stealth is much better then mine... hehe.. Both have their strong points and punch for the picture. I need to learn from everybody to maybe combine the skills to have my own style. Thanks folks.

stealth
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 16:56
[QUOTE= the negative comments about mine. As is always the case with any picture, especially with B&W, they can be interpretted many differnt ways. [/QUOTE]

Please note that I did state, IMO [In My Opinion] when making reference to your interpretation.

Photography is a completely subjective pursuit and you can become totally annoyed by comments towards your own images, when all said your photographs have become one with your soul, a part of you, 'Deep in' Your 'Thoughts!'

My own C to B&W technique – C to LAB - Remove All but luminance – GREYSCALE - RGB - copy layer and overlay - curves adjustment layer over top – add two points onto adj. layer 1/5 from top right corner on line 1/5 from bottom left corner on line – lower bottom point fraction – raise top point a fraction [watch the image on screen to see what your are doing to the image] - you can adjust the overlay layers opacity to adjust the tonal density in the image and you can adjust the curves layer to tweak the images tonal ranges.

Candid Bandit
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 17:10
Coool!!! Thanks for secret technic my friend.. I'll try to put it to use when I find something good. Thanks again!!

PacAce
27th of January 2005 (Thu), 20:12
Photography is a completely subjective pursuit and you can become totally annoyed by comments towards your own images, when all said your photographs have become one with your soul, a part of you, 'Deep in' Your 'Thoughts!'


And that the very exact reason I refrained from commenting on yours! :rolleyes: