5D MK II or what ever its called

[2.8orfaster]

If the 5D replacement does not have 6400 or 12,800 ISO, will you witch to Nikon?

[1DMARKII]

I have to much Canon glass to switch - plus I love how the 1D series looks and feels in my grubby hands :)

[eror11]

I have a 400d with the kit lens, 55-250 IS and nifty. I really really want to upgrade to full frame, I made a decent budget and wanted to buy the 5d mk2 + 24-105, 17-40, 70-200 f4 and 100 macro... I'm waiting for the new 5d until the end of september and then do one of the following two things (if mk2 isn't out) - either go ahead and buy the old 5d with the lenses i want or switch everything to the nikons d700... both of these variants include me selling the 400d and the ef-s lenses...

[bluefox9er]

I have a 400d with the kit lens, 55-250 IS and nifty. I really really want to upgrade to full frame, I made a decent budget and wanted to buy the 5d mk2 + 24-105, 17-40, 70-200 f4 and 100 macro... I'm waiting for the new 5d until the end of september and then do one of the following two things (if mk2 isn't out) - either go ahead and buy the old 5d with the lenses i want or switch everything to the nikons d700... both of these variants include me selling the 400d and the ef-s lenses...


if i were you i'd ditch your crop sensor lenses and bodies as ASAP in that case..

*if* canon makes an announcement about a new FF then the market will be asbloutley and totally flooded with tons of canon bodies and ef-s lenses.

You will maximise what you can get for your gear and re-invest it into nikon or the new 5d/old 5d and then do it all over again in 3 years time when someone else releases a new body/lens system.....

[AdamJL]

Wouldn't switch because I'm too invested in Canon.

BUT, I wouldn't give them any more of my money as a protest, not for the ISO range, but for decent AF, and sealing.

[Village_Idiot]

if i were you i'd ditch your crop sensor lenses and bodies as ASAP in that case..

*if* canon makes an announcement about a new FF then the market will be asbloutley and totally flooded with tons of canon bodies and ef-s lenses.

You will maximise what you can get for your gear and re-invest it into nikon or the new 5d/old 5d and then do it all over again in 3 years time when someone else releases a new body/lens system.....

Canon only makes like 6 ef-s lenses.

[Colorblinded]

Wouldn't switch because I'm too invested in Canon.

Same here.

I don't value ridiculously high ISO options as much as improved ISO performance at the higher ISOs already offered like 1600 and 3200. Nikon's new cameras don't look great at 12800 or 25600 and 6400 from what I've seen is pretty close to the Mark III (I have more experience with a D3 than I do the MK III though).

I won't switch because I want to keep my MK II and get a 5D Mark II and I have lenses that Nikon has no alternative to not to mention many of their lenses cost quite a bit more.

There are a number of areas I'd like to see the 5D Mark II improve on, and hopefully Canon gets some or all of them right.

[05Xrunner]

I wont be switching anywhere. I hate the layout of nikons and dont like the Images out of them...My buddies D300 is not impressive to me at all.
I am not interested in a new 5D..i want a new 1DMKIIIn or MKIV to come out

[2.8orfaster]

I do not think I will ever sell my Canon lenses or bodys.

However, I have debated starting a nikon system once they come out with some good primes.

[AdamJL]

I wont be switching anywhere. I hate the layout of nikons and dont like the Images out of them...My buddies D300 is not impressive to me at all.
I am not interested in a new 5D..i want a new 1DMKIIIn or MKIV to come out

A FF MkIIIN or MkV (They'll never call it a Mk IV because of the Japanese superstition of the number 4) with working AF would be on my cards as well. Definitely a first choice above the 5D II.

[sapearl]

No - this is not a show stopper for me and I'm not sure why it is such a big deal for some folks. Sure, it would be a nice feature to have but hardly an incentive to jump ship unless you have money to burn.

If you shoot RAW with the 5D, you have a pseudo kind of ISO 6400 & 12,800 right now with the current body.

6400 is only 1-stop off from the current 5D's 3200, and two from 6400. Shooting RAW, you can pull those 2-stops back in ACR with little difficulty. Granted, it will be noisy and contrasty, but it is there RIGHT NOW if you really need it. If you really need genuine 12,800 then the "quality" of light is probably so bad to begin with that the image will be equally wretched.... time to use the flash :lol:.

If the 5D replacement does not have 6400 or 12,800 ISO, will you witch to Nikon?

[AdamJL]

A FF MkIIIN or MkV (They'll never call it a Mk IV because of the Japanese superstition of the number 4) with working AF would be on my cards as well. Definitely a first choice above the 5D II.

Oh - and it's interesting to note that the Mk III is actually the 4th 1D camera released (1D, 1D II, 1D IIN, 1D III). The 1Ds III, whilst suffering from the same problem is the third camera in the Ds lineup, and the problem is nowhere near as pronounced.
That's gotta mean something to our Japanese friends.

[sapearl]

So only witches use Nikon?:lol::lol::lol:

[ArenGh]

i'd like a 5d replacement - if canon can deliver that'd be an A+

[scokar]

Canon only makes like 6 ef-s lenses.

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/ef-s.html

10, starting 2004

[Village_Idiot]

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/ef/ef-s.html

10, starting 2004

5 on that list are 18-55's

18-55
USM
II
II USM
II IS

4 of those aren't currently in their lineup.

18-55 IS
17-55
17-85
10-22
60
55-250

Just 6 in their current lineup.

[mdr]

Fully agree with first comment. 5D does everything I want and delivers IQ I need, so why would I change and learn a complete new camera.

Love my Nikon FE/FM2N though.

[2.8orfaster]

I went and checked out the D700 today at my local camera store. It is a very nice camera. I love that you can be full frame or 1.5 crop. I also like the fact that you can crop your photos in your camera for different ratios.

In all honestly ISO 6400 looks to be about the same as ISO 3200 on the 5D. But then again I was only looking at the view screen while zooming in. The D700 has a very nice screen!

This would make very useful 3200 when using macro or stopping down a lot when not using a tripod.

I just want really clean 6400 from the new 5D and I will be happy. Micro lens adjustment and full weather sealing would be great too. And how much I would love if it took dual SD cards!!!

[Banno]

If you are willing to just chop and change between Nikon and Canon based on the ISO range of a single camera model then you have missed the boat my friend.

Most people have a collection of glass (either a small one or a rather large one) which would have to be changed at a cost, and then you would have to get familiar with the new make of camera which will cost you time....

Unless there happens to be a major reason and possible financial benefit from switching between the two I would have to try shake some sense into anyone who was thinking of switching. Even (dare I say it) someone with Nikon gear wanting to change to Canon. It's just not worth it with out the major benefit. And a greater ISO range in one model of camera is not that reason

/end rant

[scokar]

5 on that list are 18-55's

18-55
USM
II
II USM
II IS

4 of those aren't currently in their lineup.

18-55 IS
17-55
17-85
10-22
60
55-250

Just 6 in their current lineup.


"Just 6" doesn't indicate the R&D (including marketing research),testing,machining, QA, aftermarket serviceing/etc that has gone into the ef-s lenses.

Some people are still on the border as to the format's longevity. I think efs will be here for a long time.

Not sure if Canon will follow nikon's example and have efs lenses on FF cameras. We are almost at the stage where a crop lens on a 5dmII would have the same megapixels as the 300D and "phatter" :) pixels too.

This photokina and PMA should be interesting for the quantity and types of lenses announced.

and any 5D successor :) nice how we always manage to get back on topic. haha

[davidwegs]

This is a question that would have been appropriate for me about 10 months ago.

I have sold the majority of my Canon gear (keeping some to hold the door open for the release of the MkII or whatever) and slowly transitioned into using the D300 and now the D700.

I know, I konw, traitor you say. Well, that was also true when I began buying Canon gear in 02 and slowly let my attachment to Nikon go.

I think brand loyalty is like voting for the party because its the party you always voted for. Any one thinking about these questions objectively must vote what they believe is best for them and brand be damned.

Of course if you shoot for fun, there is not a compelling reason to switch. Unless you consider getting closer to 10 trillion in debt a compelling reason.

5D is the ONLY camera from Canon that I have kept for over 18 months and even with the D700 and D300 in my bag, I keep the 5D card in case I want to play with some nostalgia.

[Colorblinded]

Of course if you shoot for fun, there is not a compelling reason to switch.
I'm not sure what really compelling reason there is to switch either way at most times. Right now, I'm not sure what it would be either. I'm sure many people who switch back and forth have their reasons, although I certainly hear of many doing it because the other brand has the newest shiny toy :p

[rexspangle]

Comparing it to what Nikon offers in the iso department to gauge switching, being angry etc. is somewhat silly....Sure it is nice to have comparable features in the same price range from different companies...and that logic applies to pretty much everything we buy in life...

What I want to see is significant upgrades from the current 5d that make it seem like the new and improved 5d on steroids version...that is how I will measure it...

[sol95]

i voted i won't switch because "i'm a canon user forever" since I have too much invested in canon lenses too...
however, is it just me or does this poll make absolutely no sense?

The poll question asks if you will switch to nikon, but option 3 is "most likely if the iq is the same as the d700"...

anyways...hehe

[sapearl]

I agree with you - people get waaaaaaay too hung up on their gear.

36 years ago I couldn't afford Nikon, so I bought Canon instead. They are both excellent cameras. Fact of the matter is, the PHOTOGRAPHER is the primary factor in determining how good the image is.

I will likely stick with my 5D's for some time - they do everything I expect. Is the OP in marketting or trying to get people to help him make up his mind :lol: ?

i voted i won't switch because "i'm a canon user forever" since I have too much invested in canon lenses too...
however, is it just me or does this poll make absolutely no sense?.....

[Colorblinded]

I think No, I am a canon user forever. Is a poor way of putting it anyway. Yes I'm tied in to the system right now, I own a few cameras and a bunch of lenses. The systems aren't different enough to warrant switching and besides regardless of who makes the "best" camera now that is likely to change many times in the future.

Would I switch to something else in the future? That kind of depends on a lot of things I think. If I needed a new camera but Canon was so far behind some competitor I'd still have to decide if it was worth trading in all my lenses. I wouldn't be switching for the convenience of it but my current choice would have to be performing badly enough to be worth the hassle and another brand would have to offer something pretty good to make it worth the switch because as others have mentioned the cameras and lenses are tools and the differences between most of the cameras right now in terms of being able to take good photos are small... it's more in the photographer.