perhaps it's called the 7D

[theflyingkiwi]

The 7D
* 21.1 MP FF
* Dual Digic III Processor
* ISO 100-6400 L:50 & H:12800
* 5 FPS
* 3" High Resolution Screen (LCD)
* 19 point AF
* Liveview
* Viewfinder: 100% Coverage
* No pop-up flash
* Full weather sealing
* EF Lenses only

from http://www.canonrumors.com/

[gpx4]

Specs looks more or less nailed on. 21MP it is.
We can expect the new 5D to be 21 MP.
However, 3-5 fps is a letdown, so was hoping for at least 6 fps.

[theflyingkiwi]

yea but don't forge that the 1dsmk3 is only 5fps.

the specs sound good, and if they offer it at the same price as the nikon D700 then it's going to make it hard for people to switch

[fashioneyes]

I can't see the specs being that high ... that's very close to the DS Mk3 and whey beyond the D700 is resolution.

[Juan Zas]

I would expect higher spec for a 3D and lower for a 7D ....

Am I missing something with Canon naming ??

3D is half way between 1D and 5D .... but 7D is too far from 1D ... so lower specs ...
Am I wrong ??

[bluefox9er]

if this was true, i seriously doubt it would be below $4,500.

[nick400d]

A 7d being a cheap full frame camera? and a 3d being a cheaper shrunken down 1ds mk3? (assuming any of this happens)
Just like the D3 and D700. Am i right?

[theflyingkiwi]

if this was true, i seriously doubt it would be below $4,500.

Hey you never know. perhaps if canon think they are going to lose market share, then who knows what they would do.

Nikon has the D700 which is close to the D3 in many regards, perhaps canon think they should do the same.

of course that is many perhaps :)

time will tell. but interesting enough to post.

As for the naming, who ever said that canon will release a 3D?

[AdamJT]

If the 21 mp is right, I am going to buy stock in hard drive manufacturers. The amount of data for the average photographer is just too much. My current 5d already makes beutifuo enlargements, I would rather keep the pixels down (14-16) at this point.

[kevEOS]

If the 21 mp is right, I am going to buy stock in hard drive manufacturers. The amount of data for the average photographer is just too much. My current 5d already makes beutifuo enlargements, I would rather keep the pixels down (14-16) at this point.

+1
I vote for 14-16 as well.

[Imaginos]

If the 21 mp is right, I am going to buy stock in hard drive manufacturers. The amount of data for the average photographer is just too much. My current 5d already makes beutifuo enlargements, I would rather keep the pixels down (14-16) at this point.
+1
These specs read more like a wish-list than an practical expectation. If it did come out at a price less than 1D3, then I'd probably buy two with my 1Ds3 savings. The only thing the 1Ds3 would have over it is the 45-point AF, and honestly, I don't use it as much as it was intended. Even if this does come out at 16MP FF and the low-noise we've all come to expect through Canon's ISO range, I'd still probably get two. The biggest thing I need is ruggedness, so I really want full sealing and an alloy body.

I do think these specs are in conflict with Canon's historical business model, so I expect the reality of the new high-end camera(s) to be significantly different than what the rumor sites are farming.

[BigBlueDodge]

Those specs make no sense at all. That's almost a 1dsMKIII. No way that happens.

I think you will see a modest increase in pixels (14-16MP sounds about right). I also don't think you will see dual Digic III. The 1DsMKII did 16MP on a single Digic II chip, so a single Digic III chip should be able to handle 16MP 14 bit.

I do see more AF pts. Nikon is just embarrasing Canon with the number of AF points they have been putting in their camera's (51pt). I'm hoping for 20+ AF which is a happy medium between 9 and 45 of the 1 series.

Canon will definately answer with a better LCD screen. Nikon again embarrased Canon on the LCD front. Nikon's $1800 prosumer camera has a LCD screen that has 4x more resolution than Canon's top of the line professional camera. I expect Canon to offer a competitive LCD with 900K+ pixels

[BigBlueDodge]

If the 21 mp is right, I am going to buy stock in hard drive manufacturers. The amount of data for the average photographer is just too much. My current 5d already makes beutifuo enlargements, I would rather keep the pixels down (14-16) at this point.

Actually, I see nothing wrong with leaving MP at the current 12MP count. I would rather see Canon focus on delivering usable ISO 25600 at 12MP than I would see having 16MP that only does ISO 3200.

We don't need more MP !! What we need is better quality pixels.

[Juan Zas]

Actually, I see nothing wrong with leaving MP at the current 12MP count. I would rather see Canon focus on delivering usable ISO 25600 at 12MP than I would see having 16MP that only does ISO 3200.

We don't need more MP !! What we need is better quality pixels.

And better AF system, fast, reliable and dead on target when it moves, not like the last ones of the mkIII and 40D based ... that gets OOF very quickly. More AF point it would help, too. My vote for around 19 AF points

[AdamJT]

Actually, I see nothing wrong with leaving MP at the current 12MP count. I would rather see Canon focus on delivering usable ISO 25600 at 12MP than I would see having 16MP that only does ISO 3200.

We don't need more MP !! What we need is better quality pixels.

Yeah, I am on with this too. But I expect that they will bump the MP slightly just to say that it is higher than the current stable of Nikon products (all around 12MP).

Definitely on board with more selectable AF points (don't forget that the 5d already has 15, only 9 selectable). 20-30 would be nice. Also able to focus in looowww light, at least EV-2.

Also 5 fps.

On board noise reduction software that is selectable for amount would be great too.

[Colorblinded]

If the 21 mp is right, I am going to buy stock in hard drive manufacturers. The amount of data for the average photographer is just too much. My current 5d already makes beutifuo enlargements, I would rather keep the pixels down (14-16) at this point.
I'm hoping for the same!

[Quad]

I'm hoping for the same!


Same here I would rather see a smaller pixel count and 16 bit files and wider dynamic range, it is about time that features are refined rather than just more features. Make the cameras more ergonomic and refined, oh and make the direct print button programmable already.

[Epix]

Another spec sheet from Chinese site, link dead.
As I posted this, the link went away. I will try to find it again. This is a Babelfish translation.

I'm with everyone else though, I want some type of picture or a better quality rumor. I have some stuff that might materialize into something worthwhile, but for now... here's the latest.

Sensor: Full Frame CMOS
mp: 18mp
iso: 100-6400 (L50 - H12800)
af: 19 Point
fps:5
lcd: 3" VGA LCD
proc: Dual DIGIC III
A/D: 14bit
shutter: 200,000 Cycle
mem: Compact Flash & SD
vf: 100% 0.76x
feature: AF-ON Button
feature: Sensor Cleaner
feature: Microadjustment
feature: Live View
feature: Highlight Tone Priority
feature: Speedlight on camera control
feature: Pop-up Flashhttp://www.canonrumors.com/index.php

[mrklaw]

If the 21 mp is right, I am going to buy stock in hard drive manufacturers. The amount of data for the average photographer is just too much. My current 5d already makes beutifuo enlargements, I would rather keep the pixels down (14-16) at this point.

why can't you have both?

Have 21mp for really high res/extreme crops etc. Then have some special processing which can deliver 14mp images by using all 21mp and averaging values in neighbouring pixels (fuji superCCD anyone)?

[fashioneyes]

This is turn in the the 5D Mk2 feature wish list ... LOL

anyway ...

happy with the number of selectable focus points ... more would confuse me as I only ever use one !

happy with the MP ... but I guess 16 would be a good move by Canon beat the D700

better ISO perforance

5 frame exposure bracketing (-2,-1,0,+1,+2)

3" screen

... plus a confirmed release date ;-)

[05Xrunner]

This is turn in the the 5D Mk2 feature wish list ... LOL

anyway ...

happy with the number of selectable focus points ... more would confuse me as I only ever use one !

happy with the MP ... but I guess 16 would be a good move by Canon beat the D700

better ISO perforance

5 frame exposure bracketing (-2,-1,0,+1,+2)

3" screen

... plus a confirmed release date ;-)
Man if they released a new 5D with same focus, same MP and only a 3" VGA screen and 5fps..that would be one of the biggest let downs and probably would not sell well at all. they would loose ALOT to Nikon doing something so lackluster as that

[theflyingkiwi]

Man if they released a new 5D with same focus, same MP and only a 3" VGA screen and 5fps..that would be one of the biggest let downs and probably would not sell well at all. they would loose ALOT to Nikon doing something so lackluster as that

I would agree with that. Canon has to do more than just upgrade the camera. If they wont to put the D700 to shame then it has to do more than just using a bigger sensor.

[Colorblinded]

I would agree with that. Canon has to do more than just upgrade the camera. If they wont to put the D700 to shame then it has to do more than just using a bigger sensor.
The D700 and the 5D both have the same sized sensor.

Still, I agree that even if the 5D were competitive with the D700 in performance but cost less people would still be upset. I think a lot of people perceive a bigger gap between Canon and Nikon than there is right now, and they expect Canon to really pull through with something exceptional right now. In in terms of customer morale I'd say doing that would be a very smart thing (knocking our socks off with a drastically improved 5D MK II even if it costs more than and bests the D700).

[theflyingkiwi]

well 12mp is more than enough for any amateur. I know that I don't need a 16mp, or a 21mp camera. I don't really print anything that would require such a large file. And I would have to upgrade my machine to handle such files.

but the sensor size isn't the end all of a good camera. If people perceive that there's a gap then that's a problem. If people think that the nikon gives you more bang for buck then guess what, that's what real. even if it's not.

[ulrikft]

"well 12mp is more than enough for me"

"any amateur" != "me"

mkey theflyingkiwi? :P