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hammerhead
24th of January 2005 (Mon), 23:11
please help me out, i'm sure this question has been asked but i cant find it. i'm very interested in buying a canon 10d slr. problem is i have really no shooting experience. i have owned several kodak point and shoot digitals, but never anything like this. :o . i was wandering if i get a decent auto lense with it will it help the learning curve maybe? i have children that are very active and we do alot of ballgames. the camera i have now you have to led the shoot by 2 seconds. i'm wanting something thats fast and i'll enjoy learning about. is the 10d over my head? i'm going to try and insert pic here to see if i can, any feedback would be great.
thank you
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Penguin_101_1
24th of January 2005 (Mon), 23:16
Have you tried a film SLR? Maybe get a cheap one (unless there is a good buy on the 10D) and practice and see if you like it. I would pick up a good book. The 10D will make it some what easier, but will cost you a lot more than a film SLR or digital P&S. It all matters on what you want to spend.

On the pic: (I hope this is what you want) There is really no outstanding subject. You see the bikes but the background is cluttered and the forground is also cluttered. You really don't know what you want us to look at.

Keep trying!!!
:)
hammerhead
24th of January 2005 (Mon), 23:32
true, i know nothing of organizing a shoot or even the basics. that is what i need some feedback , should i buy a faster point and shoot and be happy with it? i honestly dont know but i love trying to take a descent pic, just clueless.
thanks
Penguin_101_1
24th of January 2005 (Mon), 23:42
true, i know nothing of organizing a shoot or even the basics. that is what i need some feedback , should i buy a faster point and shoot and be happy with it? i honestly dont know but i love trying to take a descent pic, just clueless.
thanks
It is all in what you want. I could get a DSLR, but I am way too cheap to drop that much money on that. I could get good pics from it, but I am patient and like film. I also like my A60. Manual control, pretty fast, good quality. You can also get a ZLR, (Pro-1) that has a good lens and maunal control. It just limits you in changing lenses. Go to the camera store and let them show you cameras of all kinds - SLR, DSLR, ZLR, Point ans Shoot, Film, Digital, Medium Format ;). Then choose what you want. There are also a lot of site that help you with taking the pics. Everyone has to start. (Just don't read Bloo-Dogs stories :lol: )

Here is a big list of sites and books that you should look at: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53846&highlight=beginner+links
hammerhead
24th of January 2005 (Mon), 23:58
great link thank you.
Andy_T
25th of January 2005 (Tue), 02:50
Hammerhead,

welcome to the forum!

Take a look at these threads in the 'G series' forum.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53388
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49026

The Canon G series are very good digicams that might be similar to the Kodak Point&shoot cameras you've used.

Many of the pros and cons I read in your post (better and faster AF, no shutter lag, better low light capabilities, but on the other hand maybe big&heavy) are discussed there.

Best regards,
Andy

PS: I just got my Canon 20D and absolutely love it. Absolutely no comparison to the G2, and I now take it virtually everywhere with me, although it's about 3 times as big.

PPS: Judging from your picture (nice bikes, BTW), a flash might also greatly help you.
Longwatcher
25th of January 2005 (Tue), 08:03
If you get a 10D, 300D, or 20D take into account not only the cost of the camera and one lens, but everything else you may want later. The 20D is probably the best value for your money at this time, but if you can get a used 10D go for it.
With the 10D, unless you want to spend lots of money I recommend getting at least the 50/1.8 and the 28-135 IS lenses. an external flash will also be a good investment. As you learn what else you need then get what you need as you learn you need it. It will make it cheaper/better in the long run.

As to ease of use. If you have no skill what so ever, just put the 10D shooting mode dial on the green square and let it do the rest. When you get just a little confidence then switch to P mode and pay attention to the settings. Then try out Tv and Av modes and finally M mode. Having both of those lenses will give you the knowledge you need to pick future lenses (except for seeing the difference in "L" quality).

Just my opinion,
Andy_T
26th of January 2005 (Wed), 03:43
The 20D is probably the best value for your money at this time, but if you can get a used 10D go for it.

I disagree. The 20D is the nicest of the 'entry level' digital cameras, but it's also not really cheap.

The best value for money is the Digital Rebel with the rebates.
The 20D is a lot nicer, but not twice as nice :lol:

Best regards,
Andy