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RLopez
15th of August 2008 (Fri), 20:39
Ok so strange things have been happening in my house lately, toys going off by themselves late at night, my kids seeing shadows etc etc. So i wanted to set up my camera on my tripod and try to capture "something".

I have a canon 30D, 18-55mm kit lens, tamron 2.8mm macro and a 75-300mm canon (out of the question)

So i was gonna set up my 30D on my tripod with the kit lens and buy a remote so when i hear toys going off late at nite try to capture something. Do you guys recomend using the on camera flash or buying an external flash? no flash? with digital photography so many things can appear like something that they're not.

Do any of you have any images you've captured like this? any tips? I would appreciate any comment and tips you guys might have. Thanx.

runarut
15th of August 2008 (Fri), 20:45
My opinion - your mileage may vary.

It is more likely activity is caused by more worldly agents. I would recommend a game camera. The kind that either senses motion by video motion or via sound based motion sensor. Many game cameras will use infrared "flash" for low light situations.

For a sampling of game cameras, see Cabellas or other fine outdoor equipment retailer.

Another alternative is to use a PC USB video camera coupled with motion detection software. Leave PC running with camera hooked up. Look in the morning to see what's up. Probably the least expensive option.

Dusty
15th of August 2008 (Fri), 20:52
When I was new to photography I took some freaky images man, of people with their heads cut off !
Then I learned the rule of thirds and never seen those sort of shots in my camera again.

:oops:

RLopez
15th of August 2008 (Fri), 21:30
My opinion - your mileage may vary.

It is more likely activity is caused by more worldly agents. I would recommend a game camera. The kind that either senses motion by video motion or via sound based motion sensor. Many game cameras will use infrared "flash" for low light situations.

For a sampling of game cameras, see Cabellas or other fine outdoor equipment retailer.

Another alternative is to use a PC USB video camera coupled with motion detection software. Leave PC running with camera hooked up. Look in the morning to see what's up. Probably the least expensive option.

The toys going off happens late at night when im the only one awake like 2 nights ago when i was reading the bible a toy went off in the living room which is next to my room, all my kids were sleeping so no one else could have done it. It went off about 5 times in about an hour then once in the morning when i was getting ready for work.

Since all this happens when im awake i wanted to try to capture any images with the remote.

I wonder if theres any way a motion sensor can be used with the camera, i saw something like that that was used for liquid photography so the picture could be taken when the drop hit the water.

When I was new to photography I took some freaky images man, of people with their heads cut off !
Then I learned the rule of thirds and never seen those sort of shots in my camera again.

:oops:

I was reading the post all interested on the images then i read the rest lol, thats funny.

710 Studio
15th of August 2008 (Fri), 22:00
The toy that "goes off"... is it battery powered? My daughters used to have a battery powered inch worm that would play music and say phrases. The batteries drained and the thing started going off by itself and it sounded demon possessed.

If you DO happen to catch something, post it! It would be awesome to see.

RLopez
15th of August 2008 (Fri), 22:10
The toy that "goes off"... is it battery powered? My daughters used to have a battery powered inch worm that would play music and say phrases. The batteries drained and the thing started going off by itself and it sounded demon possessed.

If you DO happen to catch something, post it! It would be awesome to see.

Yeah is battery powered but is not the only one that has gone off. Is a mix of a lot of stuff that happens, things falling, toys going off, shadows etc etc.

I think i am gonna buy me a remote and just try to capture something like that, im just gonna wait to see if anyone could give me more tips about the flash because sometimes a reflection of something could make shadows appear like something thats not really there.

kenyc
16th of August 2008 (Sat), 06:34
Worry less about photography and worry more about seeking professional help. :)

**** happens. :)

malskat
16th of August 2008 (Sat), 14:51
Worry less about photography and worry more about seeking professional help. :)

**** happens. :)

ooooo, That can be taken a couple different ways.... :confused:

RLopez
16th of August 2008 (Sat), 18:20
Worry less about photography and worry more about seeking professional help. :)

**** happens. :)

ooooo, That can be taken a couple different ways.... :confused:

lol i know, he didnt specify what kinda help :eek:

kenyc
16th of August 2008 (Sat), 18:25
:) :)

Stormin_24
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 06:03
Here's a radio show that deals with this, that I've been listening to for many years... You may get some answers as well... http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Paranormal? Believe it, it does happen...

Swaffs
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 06:09
why not just use a video camera? it can run all night!

kenyc
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 06:59
Here's a radio show that deals with this, that I've been listening to for many years... You may get some answers as well... http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Paranormal? Believe it, it does happen...


Well, you are what you eat. :)

malskat
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 18:03
Hmmmm

londonblue007
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 18:10
The toy that "goes off"... is it battery powered? My daughters used to have a battery powered inch worm that would play music and say phrases. The batteries drained and the thing started going off by itself and it sounded demon possessed.

If you DO happen to catch something, post it! It would be awesome to see.

My wife has a Stitch doll, from the disney movie, it would wake up in the middle of the night and say random lines it was programmed with. Turns it out was a dying battery, but like above....

kenyc
20th of August 2008 (Wed), 19:17
My wife has a Stitch doll, from the disney movie, it would wake up in the middle of the night and say random lines it was programmed with. Turns it out was a dying battery, but like above....

Yep.

TooManyShots
23rd of August 2008 (Sat), 20:28
Sure, ghost and spirit do exit. If I were you I would probably try to find out what is the background behind the house you are living in. What happened there before you moved in. I believe that these things do not happen unless your house is haunted. If not, maybe you are the cause of it, such as you are going through some emotional struggles.

marie
23rd of August 2008 (Sat), 20:41
:|Yep.

lol

Sure, ghost and spirit do exit. If I were you I would probably try to find out what is the background behind the house you are living in. What happened there before you moved in. I believe that these things do not happen unless your house is haunted.
If not, maybe you are the cause of it,
such as you are going through some emotional struggles.


arn't we all

:mrgreen:

I think its a canon thing
:eek:

http://www.PhotoShare.co.nz/PhotoShareGallery1/100543/104697/bathtime1944.jpg

{not my cat... not my photo}

kenyc
23rd of August 2008 (Sat), 20:44
Sure, ghost and spirit do exit. If I were you I would probably try to find out what is the background behind the house you are living in. What happened there before you moved in. I believe that these things do not happen unless your house is haunted. If not, maybe you are the cause of it, such as you are going through some emotional struggles.

so now we come full circle to my initial comment. :)

ataricult
24th of August 2008 (Sun), 18:46
Sure, ghost and spirit do exit. If I were you I would probably try to find out what is the background behind the house you are living in. What happened there before you moved in. I believe that these things do not happen unless your house is haunted. If not, maybe you are the cause of it, such as you are going through some emotional struggles.

Lol, sorry but you have nothing to prove this claim that ghosts and spirits exist.

TooManyShots
24th of August 2008 (Sun), 23:46
That's like trying to prove the existence of God....:) I have heard plenty of stories. My staff, who has just been transfered from one of the Florida stores, saw the little girl. This little was allegedly strangled somehow. Everyone saw it and he refused to believe in it. He saw it one day closing the store and he is still refusing to believe in ghost and spirit. What can I say? :) In fact, one of our stores, 20 blocks from mine, is also haunted. Allegedly a little girl was murdered there inside the fridge. The store was used to be a restaurant ran by the mob. The manager who used to manage that store couple of years ago saw the little girl, so as his assistant manager. To each their own, I personally saw a spirit, not ghost mine you, in my dream.

Lol, sorry but you have nothing to prove this claim that ghosts and spirits exist.

malskat
25th of August 2008 (Mon), 03:09
RLopez asked for photographic advice but instead was met with resistance and the topic shifted to individuals beliefs or lack thereof and a slight debate resulted.
Similar to old posts where the topic was safeguarding your equipment turned into a firearm debate.
RLopez, the costs of securing gear for your needs may prove to be cumbersome with just the chance of obtaining results. There are however groups who can help who already have such gear and most will work for free.
My advice is to look into contacting such groups as they will look into your problem and attempt to provide you help and will search for the evidence you seek.
I strongly recommend a mature group who will attempt to prove such suspicions wrong or explainable before jumping to conclusions, because in order to capture such evidence you need to first attempt to prove natural reasons.
When that has failed then you have the unnatural.
Either way, whether you are a believer or not.. giving mature advice instead of ridicule is what RLopez I assume will appreciate more and and will leave ppl who post comments with a better image.. without the taste of immaturity.

kenyc
25th of August 2008 (Mon), 06:53
That's like trying to prove the existence of God....:) I have heard plenty of stories. My staff, who has just been transfered from one of the Florida stores, saw the little girl. This little was allegedly strangled somehow. Everyone saw it and he refused to believe in it. He saw it one day closing the store and he is still refusing to believe in ghost and spirit. What can I say? :) In fact, one of our stores, 20 blocks from mine, is also haunted. Allegedly a little girl was murdered there inside the fridge. The store was used to be a restaurant ran by the mob. The manager who used to manage that store couple of years ago saw the little girl, so as his assistant manager. To each their own, I personally saw a spirit, not ghost mine you, in my dream.

The human mind is an amazing instrument capable of detailed analysis as well as absolute deception.

PhotosGuy
25th of August 2008 (Mon), 08:36
Get a raccoon trap.

FREEZE
25th of August 2008 (Mon), 09:04
As i saw you were reading your bible when it happened in my opinion you already have the answer to your needs.;)

kenyc
25th of August 2008 (Mon), 10:28
Get a raccoon trap.

Right and bait it with ecotplasm!

PhotosGuy
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 00:26
This thread shows some nice ectoplasm shot with a chipped lens.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=558457

BTBeilke
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 00:46
The Canon Timer Remote Controller TC-80N3 will allow you to do time lapse photography. However, you'd have to leave the lights on in the room. I kind of like the wild game camera idea.

Oh, and if it were me, I take the batteries out of those toys. If they still go off, then you'll know for sure that you have some "unresolved" issues. :evil: :twisted:

Mike
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 14:11
How about just leaving the camera in the room where the things have been happening - maybe the spirit will get curious and take a self portrait?! ;)

DerekRob
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 14:20
My opinion - your mileage may vary.

It is more likely activity is caused by more worldly agents. I would recommend a game camera. The kind that either senses motion by video motion or via sound based motion sensor. Many game cameras will use infrared "flash" for low light situations.

For a sampling of game cameras, see Cabellas or other fine outdoor equipment retailer.

Another alternative is to use a PC USB video camera coupled with motion detection software. Leave PC running with camera hooked up. Look in the morning to see what's up. Probably the least expensive option.I would also recommend a a game camera and a EMF meter "about $99 @ amazon.com" if they stay in stock long enough.


But buy a deer camera that has motion censers. Or buy DLRS Remote software by a company called Breeze and then buy a motion censer off radio shack so the laptop would turn on when something passes by and you can resume the camera picture taking mode.

tonylong
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 15:33
The problem with stills, even time lapse, is that they only show that something is happening at that instant/point of time. I'd say something similar to a security camera setup would be your best bet. The stories of battery-operated toys going off on their own when the battieries are low are interesting. But with anything moving on its own the only way you can capture and demonstrate this would be with actual video (of course those can be edited but for your own use it would tell the tale!).

Doc Nickel
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 18:08
I wasn't aware the dark ages had returned. Are some of you actually entertaining the idea that not only are there really ghosts and poltergeists, but that you might be able to actually photograph them?

What's next, we bring back the leeches when we get too much "bad humour" in our blood?

Doc.

tonylong
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 18:31
I wasn't aware the dark ages had returned. Are some of you actually entertaining the idea that not only are there really ghosts and poltergeists, but that you might be able to actually photograph them?

What's next, we bring back the leeches when we get too much "bad humour" in our blood?

Doc.

I'd say it's more that we are trying to help a fellow photog document something unexplained, even if it turns out that there is a natural explanation.

If you one day posted that you suspected that extraterrestrial beings were wandering around your backyard at night and wanted to know how to best set up to photograph whatever was really happening, we may or may not chuckle at the idea, but still, we could give helpful photographic advice, and it may show that it was only racoons!

TooManyShots
26th of August 2008 (Tue), 22:22
Dark age? Why? What has changed since the dark ages? People live and die. A life time of life experience does not disappear just because your mind (brain) stops to function. Just imagine that your cultural beliefs and life experiences/wisdom just disappear because you no longer exist. How inefficient the human mind would be if for every new birth you have to learn and develop your culture all over again. Have you had dreams about your love ones (grandparents for an example) who passed away??

I wasn't aware the dark ages had returned. Are some of you actually entertaining the idea that not only are there really ghosts and poltergeists, but that you might be able to actually photograph them?

What's next, we bring back the leeches when we get too much "bad humour" in our blood?

Doc.

jmcder53
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 00:23
i would agree, the video camera would probably be the easiest way to go. i might not have the term exact but i've heard something about electronic voice phenomena, you don't hear anything but if you do an audio recording, noises and voices sometimes show up. you might also just want to take random pictures when things aren't going on. some of these Haunted TV shows or Ghost Hunters, there are ordinary photos that people take, and see something weird in there.

shavedaccord
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 00:39
I think it would be awesome to capture paranormal activity. I have always been interested in this aspect of photography and research in general. I have some questionable images from the past that I have taken at reportedly haunted locations and cemeteries. Maybe I'll have to dig them up and get your guys opinions.

All I can say is have an open mind, most people don't believe simply because it hasn't happened to them.

breal101
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 01:26
I think it would be awesome to capture paranormal activity. I have always been interested in this aspect of photography and research in general. I have some questionable images from the past that I have taken at reportedly haunted locations and cemeteries. Maybe I'll have to dig them up and get your guys opinions.

All I can say is have an open mind, most people don't believe simply because it hasn't happened to them.

Please post some if you can find them. There are many interesting photos on the net, and the TV shows have turned up a few as well. I was watching an episode of Ghost Hunters International with my nephew, he was making fun of them and generally dismissive of the whole thing until they showed an image from a full spectrum camera they were using. A clear shot of what looked like a man sitting in the kitchen when no human was there.:shock:

shavedaccord
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 01:31
Looking for them as we speak. Hopefully I can find them. They were taken a few years back.

M_ark
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 01:48
Please post some if you can find them. There are many interesting photos on the net, and the TV shows have turned up a few as well. I was watching an episode of Ghost Hunters International with my nephew, he was making fun of them and generally dismissive of the whole thing until they showed an image from a full spectrum camera they were using. A clear shot of what looked like a man sitting in the kitchen when no human was there.:shock:

what spectrum exactly is 'full spectrum'? full visible? +IR + UV - or full EMF spectrum?

breal101
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 02:13
what spectrum exactly is 'full spectrum'? full visible? +IR + UV - or full EMF spectrum?

From what I understood from the show it was IR visible and UV, not really familiar with that type of camera. Reminds me that I wanted to do some research on the camera they had.

shavedaccord
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 02:18
I'd personally use a few cameras with just different filters to cover each spectrum.

Doc Nickel
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 05:28
A life time of life experience does not disappear just because your mind (brain) stops to function.

-It doesn't? How do you figure? By what mechanism are those memories stored, then? By what further mechanism are they "played back", so to speak? Where, moreover, is the evidence of said data from the twenty billion human beings that have so far passed on since the dawn of man's sapience?

Have you had dreams about your love ones (grandparents for an example) who passed away??

-I have indeed. I've also dreamt of flying unaided, of walking through school wearing nothing but underwear, and of driving a tank through a parking lot, for some reason. Are these, then, communiques from The Other Side?

Doc.

kenyc
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 05:45
-It doesn't? How do you figure? By what mechanism are those memories stored, then? By what further mechanism are they "played back", so to speak? Where, moreover, is the evidence of said data from the twenty billion human beings that have so far passed on since the dawn of man's sapience?



-I have indeed. I've also dreamt of flying unaided, of walking through school wearing nothing but underwear, and of driving a tank through a parking lot, for some reason. Are these, then, communiques from The Other Side?

Doc.

+1


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Doc Nickel
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 05:48
i might not have the term exact but i've heard something about electronic voice phenomena, you don't hear anything but if you do an audio recording, noises and voices sometimes show up.

-They do indeed. I once heard a trucker (presumably using a booster) quite clearly on my electric guitar amplifier. Needless to say, the amplifier did not have a radio receiver of any sort built in, let alone one attuned to CB frequencies. I heard it just the same.

I also heard a cordless phone conversation (apprx. 49MHz) on an AM-band radio (somewhere in the 600kHz range.)

And once I heard an emergency services radio- probably a paramedic- on my laptop speakers.

The skies are filled with broadcast signals that sometimes leak into or out of places they're not supposed to go. It's hardly supernatural.

Doc.

pgulati
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 06:06
For a moment I thought I was in TAPS forum.:rolleyes:

johnz
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 06:09
Subscribed..

I am just waiting for the images of ghosts or poltergeists :)

( seriously....)

_aravena
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:39
Video camera mate. Why use anything else? Too much timing for the other unless you have a grip. Then boost the on board flash all the way up, get a timer remote, and set it to take so many shots whenever and hope.

With a camera it's simply a guess and check game. Ya might get something ya might not. At least video can go all night without you being there. Yes, I've done this before.

And I applied for TAPS. :D

fi20100
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:42
Getting a bowl of popcorn and sits down :D

ryanvc76
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:56
Getting a bowl of popcorn and sits down :D

Yep... this should be interesting. :) :rolleyes:

johnz
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 09:19
I wonder how exactly should you meter when your shooting a ghost. Using flash might destroy the exposure.
I would definitely atleast dial in -1 FEC, and remember to use a wide angle lens and small aperture to ensure that the ghost is in focus!
;)

frenchfx
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 14:04
and if you capture a ghostly image playing with a toy.....then what?

fi20100
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 14:50
and if you capture a ghostly image playing with a toy.....then what?

Well, at least we would know then :D

shavedaccord
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 14:52
lol I think some of you guys are scared to go out looking for paranormal stuff... Oh and so far no luck finding the pictures, still looking though.

Maxxum5
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:00
Just remove the batteries and turn ON all the lights. Do you still see shadows and hear the battery operated toys going off?

If so, I would buy a new house......

Haven't you ever seen POLTERGEIST???? hahahahaha

Does your TV turn to SNOW? :p

shavedaccord
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:07
You know they do say that doing EVP's invites the spirits in.... good and evil

PhotoJourno
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:20
I guess I can understand how the subject of this thread may cause a great deal of skepticism, or tons of witty remarks. Hey, I may have posted a silly remark or two back in the day.

In this case however I do feel strongly encouraged to support the Thread Poster, he has something he wants to do with cameras, and has come to the forums for advice. I think that for every silly thing we say, we also have to contribute something positive.

Whether the camera captures something arguably paranormal or not, I don't think it is my job to judge it. Not yet, and even if I did, I would not be blasting the photographer for it. At most I'd say "Well, that looks like lens flare to me".

Now, back to the OP. Some ideas to capture something unknown happening in your kitchen:

- Most Canon point and Shoots have a Video mode, and also a Time lapse (I have the SD750). No motion detection, but I assume that unless you have a sleepwalker, nothing else would trigger the motion sensor, specially in low light or darkness.

- If it were me, I would go with the cheap approach: I would not base this situation to purchase photo equipment, but rather whatever tool will get the job done with the least amount of money spent. A good MiniDV VideoCamera from Best Buy, something with NightVision, can be put atop of a shelf, or on a tripod, and with AC power could record 120 minutes non-stop before the tape needs replacing. This would give you continued coverage of the area, and a greater chance at actually figuring out what's going on. Plus, you're left with a handy camera for birthdays, and other events. Price outcome would not be remotely as expensive, and you can turn it into a present "Hi honey, happy birthday, hope you like it, now let's go plug it downstairs and see what happens". HERE's a Camcorder with Night vision for $300 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8718694&type=product&id=1200703056029), that is worth keeping and good enough for video uses for the next couple of years.


- I would leave a Tape recorder (Staples, Office Depot) for $50 bucks you can get one that is Solid State Memory (means no little tapes or nothing) that can record up to 12hs of High Quality sound. A good backup to the videocamera, perhaps not enough to capture most infrasound waves, but still good enough to be able to give you a timeline on events that do happen (things that fall, toysthat start on their own, steps, doors, etc). HERE's a Tape recorder for $60 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8717953&st=digital+sound+recorder&type=product&id=1202649781184).

That is what would be most effective to me. And would not be nearly as budget consuming as to keep you from owning a nice Canon 30D or 40D, with which you can take great photos during the day.

As far as technology inviting spirits and what not, I am not so sure. Otherwise Circuit City or Best Buy would be infested with spirits (not to be confused with the zombies that often wear store uniforms and attempt to help you buy stuff, without the least amount of knowledge about it).


PS: In your research, you want to establish three things (from an investigative point of view)

A- Timeline of Events (what happens when, always same order? Random? etc).
B- Visual cues (streaming visual footage of the events)
C- Audio cues (streaming audio of the events)

With those three elements, you will be in a prime position to ascertain whether you have a sleepwalker in your house (no need to laugh, it happens), or an intruder (also happens, though less likely), or simply something you cannot readily explain. But at least, getting to that point of having a list of events, and sound and video, will take you to the next level.

Paranormal? Perhaps. Abnormal? absolutely. I would not be able to sleep if I were not in control of 100% of all sounds and movements in the house during the night. I am just that crazy.

Best of luck though, and please don't let the witty remarks keep you from posting.

_aravena
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 16:01
^Bad thing about that is you suggest a MiniDV for $300 for 120mins when you can get a HDD camcorder and it'll go for hours for $100 more, depending where you get it. Less if you get it online and not retail.

Sorry, 2hrs is no time to record something. That's why I have a JVC Everio. Awesome, small, fun, and can record forever depending what quality you want. I used it when me and my friends went out and did something stupid and other fun activities.

Or buy security cameras. Those are always fun.

PhotoJourno
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 16:05
^Bad thing about that is you suggest a MiniDV for $300 for 120mins when you can get a HDD camcorder and it'll go for hours for $100 more, depending where you get it. Less if you get it online and not retail.

Sorry, 2hrs is no time to record something. That's why I have a JVC Everio. Awesome, small, fun, and can record forever depending what quality you want. I used it when me and my friends went out and did something stupid and other fun activities.

Or buy security cameras. Those are always fun.


Good Point!!... I actually never had experience with HDD Cameras, as when I bought my last one (MiniDv) the HDDs were still fairly expensive (almost 1k), but now it sounds not only much more reasonably priced, but as you said, worth for more hours of uninterrupted video.

_aravena
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 16:07
Quite. Just check, the JVC Everio is $366 on BH. Awesome price. Can only be found cheaper around holidays typically at CC or BB.

white russian
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 18:56
As far as paranormal photography is concerned I would have to say don't attempt it unless you have a lot of time to kill. If toys are being moved I would agree with everyone and say, get a motion activated security camera.

I wholeheartedly believe that you don't find the paranormal, it finds you. Ghosts, spirits, angels, demons, ETs, anything unknown, has no reason to show itself on camera. Just make sure you don't let this overtake your life.

Here is a link that gives a brief history of spirit photography. Now I know that the majority of the pictures have been proven to be faked. But if stories hold true for the others, then I think they are quite fascinating.

http://www.prairieghosts.com/ph_history.html

But then again, I don't expect photos, videos, or even audios for that matter to turn skeptics into believers. I am also glad that no one has mentioned orbs here.

_aravena
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 19:02
OH gosh no. I hate those things. I think that's why TAPS kinda ignores me when I email them although I'm supposed to be called if they're in the area. :rolleyes:

I hate orbs and they're nothing more than someone shooting at F22. :p Naw, Idk, but they're quite BS.

kenyc
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 19:13
Yep... this should be interesting. :) :rolleyes:

or just silly :lol:

shavedaccord
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 19:17
oh have an open mind.. you never know.

LW Dail
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 19:35
Ah heck, I'm in! Just put batch of cookies in the oven, I'll let ya'll know when they're ready....

kenyc
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:28
oh have an open mind.. you never know.


I certainly do...on both counts. :)

Doc Nickel
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:29
oh have an open mind.. you never know.

-Actually, at this point we do.

We've been photographing things for over 150 years, and today, there's over a million CCTV cameras in London alone. There's over a billion camera-phones out there, and digital cameras are selling by the hundreds of thousands to boot.

And yet, the best we ever see is a somewhat suggestive shape in a badly-out-of-focus background, or a flash-illuminated dust mote.

I do keep an open mind. But as the old saying goes, I don't keep it so open I let my brain fall out. Beliefs are fine, to a point, but temper everything with logic and reason.

Doc.

S.Horton
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:38
*popcorn*

PhotoJourno
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:38
We scared the poor dude already!!.. When was the last time Lopez posted in his own thread? it's a week old, and it's been days. Sad way to treat a POTNer I tellsya.

When to me a canon owner talking about D70s with that shine in his eyes is straight out of a horror movie. Geeez people.

kenyc
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:38
We scared the poor dude already!!.. When was the last time Lopez posted in his own thread? it's a week old, and it's been days. Sad way to treat a POTNer I tellsya.

When to me a canon owner talking about D70s with that shine in his eyes is straight out of a horror movie.


Maybe he took my advice. :)

1ruffryder
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:39
i hope u dont get a pissed ghost that willknock ur cam over

S.Horton
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:41
Redrum

TooManyShots
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:44
I hope he is OK. Someone needs to check up on him???

Maybe he took my advice. :)

DerekRob
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:52
You know they do say that doing EVP's invites the spirits in.... good and evilThat's very wrong. If you research evps you can see that sound some times gets captured into certain things and will re main their until some kind of audio recorder can bring them out.


And I would like to see where they said this.

bsaber
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:57
Why not just sit in the room with the toys and see if you see anything??

_aravena
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 20:58
It's not just EVP's it's the invite in general that can open up for anything. Study more on demonology than paranormal. It's covers details more realistically, by that I mean the truth from in the days of yore and what the Catholic church believes.

Not stuff written by obsessed wiki users. :p

PhotoJourno
27th of August 2008 (Wed), 21:44
It's not just EVP's it's the invite in general that can open up for anything. Study more on demonology than paranormal. It's covers details more realistically, by that I mean the truth from in the days of yore and what the Catholic church believes.

Not stuff written by obsessed wiki users. :p


He he... True. (Except about the kiwis, I have an ongoing legal issue so I cannot comment ;) ).

It is certainly true that while Paranormal is a word that invites a lot of controversy (same as UFO, aliens or Ghosts), one tends to use these labels with great generalization and prejudice.

I am not sure about paranormal, but if everyone is sleeping upstairs, and the toy goes off or stuff falls downstairs, it sounds not normal to me. So at least, Abnormal.

UFO? Any aircraft is a UFO until identified. Not all UFOs are flying saucers, though the term widely suggests this.

Aliens? Little green men from space. Sting, Lennon and Myself are part of a very large group of ex Aliens, in my case, a Resident Alien of the United States of America (till I became Citizen, then they welcomed me to Earth, and took me to roswell to see if I recognized any of my relatives :p ).

At any rate, there is no denying that weird stuff happens. Things that for most, are unexplainable. Wether it is a spirit or not, whether the photo is true or not, the events do happen, so they cannot be taken lightly.

Personally, I like how others put it. I'd rather not mess with that sort of "joo-joo". I have been invited as a young punk to all kinds of games, and in the later years to weird places for halloween (once at an abandoned Mill in Utah, where a fire had killed several people, and ghost stories had abounded ever since). I stayed out. Scared? sure. But also, without a decent flashlight and permission, there was no way in hell I was going to sneak past a six foot solid fence, to go inside an abandoned building whose room distribution and hazards remained unknown to me. I did help review the tape they had later on. Their laughter was so constant, the giddiness so strong, that it was all you could hear through the tape.

S.Horton
28th of August 2008 (Thu), 03:10
It's not just EVP's it's the invite in general that can open up for anything. Study more on demonology than paranormal. It's covers details more realistically, by that I mean the truth from in the days of yore and what the Catholic church believes.

Not stuff written by obsessed wiki users. :p

....it always comes down to what the people who wrote it believed, or were told to write, or both.

LW Dail
28th of August 2008 (Thu), 08:20
I am curious how a camera would be used to capture motion as opposed to a video camera....

Pic 1: Picture of bookshelf
Pic 2: Picture of a book on floor in front of bookshelf?

I think I could do that!

Pic 1: Pic of toy
Pic 1 edited: Pic of toy with words "music playing" PP along the bottom

I could do that too!

S.Horton
28th of August 2008 (Thu), 11:17
When we had toys around, they'd go off all the time.

Some moved. It takes some getting used to.

Mark
15th of September 2008 (Mon), 22:48
Construction site?

EDIT: oops must have responded to wrong thread... WTF???

Dusty
15th of September 2008 (Mon), 23:28
Construction site?

EDIT: oops must have responded to wrong thread... WTF???

Spooky.......:confused:

Oneslowz28
16th of September 2008 (Tue), 02:09
I have a feeling that the only ghost you are going to capture is the one your shutter gives up after all of those near misses of the other ghost. :)

number six
24th of September 2008 (Wed), 17:32
Hate to hijack a thread, but I guess the OP has been gone for a month anyway.

OK, guys, how would we go about getting a picture of the Title Fairy?

:twisted:

-js

number six
24th of September 2008 (Wed), 17:37
Ah, I've found a hint on TF from Pekka himself:

"TF is just vapor with bad breath."

I guess flash is out of the question... :p

marie
24th of September 2008 (Wed), 18:37
OK, guys, how would we go about getting a picture of the Title Fairy?

:twisted:

-js






http://www.PhotoShare.co.nz/PhotoShareGallery1/100543/108082/102774812clzMWuqFCopyofTalk2Hand17632.gif





http://www.PhotoShare.co.nz/PhotoShareGallery1/100543/108082/71366189S3nMe2MNPutInCamera1684.GIF






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zeva
24th of September 2008 (Wed), 19:12
can anyone PROVE that the TF exist? :)

DigitalSpecialist
24th of September 2008 (Wed), 19:31
I just wish the paranormal would take photos of us so we don't need to do all that crazy self portraiture!

DerekRob
24th of September 2008 (Wed), 23:49
So when will some one post a real photograph in here?

Oneslowz28
25th of September 2008 (Thu), 00:40
A real one will not be posted because it is physically impossible to photograph something that does not exist.

number six
25th of September 2008 (Thu), 01:13
A real one will not be posted because it is physically impossible to photograph something that does not exist.

The Title Fairy DOES exist. I pray to him/her/it every night for a new life. Well, just for a cool title...

-js

EDIT: oops. Be careful what you ask for. :confused:

FlyingPhotog
25th of September 2008 (Thu), 01:24
Anyone ever own property in Questa Verde? ;)

Oneslowz28
25th of September 2008 (Thu), 01:31
I still stand behind my statement that the TF is too afraid to give me a title. Been saying that for a while now.

number six
25th of September 2008 (Thu), 01:34
I still stand behind my statement that the TF is too afraid to give me a title. Been saying that for a while now.

:shock:

Geez! I'm outta here!!!

fi20100
25th of September 2008 (Thu), 02:09
I still stand behind my statement that the TF is too afraid to give me a title. Been saying that for a while now.

Most of the time it's the people NOT asking for a custom title that will get haunted by the TF, and the people asking for it will be ignored... When you least expect it, when you've said something really stupid, the TF will strike :D

PhotosGuy
26th of September 2008 (Fri), 10:42
when you've said something really stupid, the TF will strike This qualifies!
I still stand behind my statement that the TF is too afraid to give me a title. Been saying that for a while now.

DerekRob
27th of September 2008 (Sat), 16:33
This qualifies!
I still stand behind my statement that the TF is too afraid to give me a title. Been saying that for a while now.I've found out the hard way "points to title"

marie
27th of September 2008 (Sat), 19:34
So when will some one post a real photograph in here?


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marie
27th of September 2008 (Sat), 19:35
I've found out the hard way "points to title"

http://www.PhotoShare.co.nz/PhotoShareGallery1/100543/108082/102774782bLAKgOANjpg9673.gif

DerekRob
27th of September 2008 (Sat), 19:38
LOL

LW Dail
8th of October 2008 (Wed), 07:17
Well, I'm thinking the popcorn has gone stale and we've all slid off of the edge of our seat.

So, here is a picture of a ghost to stay somewhwere near the original topic!!!!

http://www.smileyzone.eu/smilies/halloween/ghostie.gif (http://www.smileyzone.eu/flying-ghost-smiley-emoticon-69.html)

tonylong
9th of October 2008 (Thu), 22:16
I find ghosts are more visible when you're shooting into the sun -- probably some non-visible light frequency that brings out the "ghostiness" in them, ya know:)!

DerekRob
10th of October 2008 (Fri), 13:05
I find ghosts are more visible when you're shooting into the sun -- probably some non-visible light frequency that brings out the "ghostiness" in them, ya know:)!Ah yes, The glare spots from the camera's and camcorders haha.


Shhhh I'm hunting ghooooooost's

:P

number six
10th of October 2008 (Fri), 13:31
I find ghosts are more visible when you're shooting into the sun -- probably some non-visible light frequency that brings out the "ghostiness" in them, ya know:)!

On a ride a couple of years ago my riding partner was chased by a UFO:


311541

LittleRock
28th of December 2008 (Sun), 22:23
The toy that "goes off"... is it battery powered? My daughters used to have a battery powered inch worm that would play music and say phrases. The batteries drained and the thing started going off by itself and it sounded demon possessed.

If you DO happen to catch something, post it! It would be awesome to see.


what would be even creepier is to remove the batteries. If the toy continues to go off.....well.....you'll have a true paranormal news worthy story.

tonylong
28th of December 2008 (Sun), 22:30
Worse yet would be that toy, stowed in your luggage, giving off a strange buzzing sound as you were going through an airport security checkpoint...:)!

zeva
28th of December 2008 (Sun), 22:39
On a ride a couple of years ago my riding partner was chased by a UFO:


311541


AHHHH TRANSLUCENT UFO!!!!

Adrena1in
29th of December 2008 (Mon), 05:37
Has this thread recently been moved in the "Celestial and Astronomy" forum??!

number six
29th of December 2008 (Mon), 15:08
Has this thread recently been moved in the "Celestial and Astronomy" forum??!

Yeah. It was put here by a moderator when they reorganized POTN a few months ago.

:lol::lol::lol:

Adrena1in
30th of December 2008 (Tue), 10:56
Yeah. It was put here by a moderator when they reorganized POTN a few months ago.

:lol::lol::lol:

Well perhaps it should be moved again then! :rolleyes:

michelle01x
6th of January 2009 (Tue), 09:16
AHHHH TRANSLUCENT UFO!!!!

Initially I thought it was some kind of an insect! lol.Look at how cute that UFO is.:D