EOS D10 or Rebel?

[Geeeyejo]

Been having alot of fun with the new S1 IS but really am longing for a digital SLR. Price is definately an issue. I figure I might be able to convince the wife and go for a dig slr in a few months. It seems that a good used EOS D10 and a new 6.3 Rebel are comparably priced - what would you choose and why?

[tim]

You should do a search if you can, i'm sure I saw this topic recently.

Personally I like new products, and IMHO the 300D is 95% as good as the 10D and takes just as good a picture. Of course the 300D probably won't be available in a couple of months, it's being replaced next month with it's sucessor. If you want a cheap DSLR get the 300D now, the rebates make it cheap. If you want a little more expensive but signficantly better camera get the 300D sucessor in a few weeks.

[FlyingPete]

The only reason I would buy a 10D over a 300D is frame rate and buffer, it you need rapid fire of up to 8 shots, then 10D, if not a hacked 300D is fine.

Remember also that a 10D can't take EFS lenses, so you will miss out at the wide end of the focal range unless you hack a 18-55, or buy some more expensive wide non EFS glass. That fact pushed me towards the 300D, the frame rate pushed me back to the 10D, then the 20D came out, problem solved!

[MrChad]

I finally took the plung myself I jumped on the Digital Rebel. The price was the cheapest of any DSLR and who can beat the $100 rebate and free shipping from BHphoto.

I shoot a film Eos Elan 7 so I'm going to miss some of it's features with the Rebel but I figure the money saved vs. the 20D is better spent on glass. Plus the savings vs. film.

I sold a bunch of garage junk on ebay to generate the cash. Maybe you could do the same :D Thank heavens credit cards can do the rest :)

But I have some Canon lenses and gear, if you don't own any Eos gear maybe you should look at the Nikon D70 too, but you didn't hear that from me......

If you don't plan to go much past the SLR kit lens, I think the D70 is a better kit. Else I love Canon glass.

[Akreager]

If you are going digital SLR on a limited budget go with the Nikon D70, the 18-70 kit lens, the 70-300ED, one SB800 flash, an SC-29 off camera cord for your flash, and a simple L shaped flash bracket. You will have a system that blows away the digital rebel with a 35mm equivilent range of 28-450 and much better i-ttl capability/flexibility all for under $2000.

If you can afford more, go with the Canon 20D, a 17-40F4.0L, a 50F1.8, a 70-200F4.0L with a 1.4TC, a 580 flash with an ST-E2 controler - All for the mere price of about $3750. 35mm equivilent will be 28 - 448. It is better than the D70 for sure!

Beware that you will get hooked and want PS creative suite (PS Elements III is also pretty good), Noise Ninja, and multiple other programs designed to help with/work with PS and you will need memory cards etc etc. You may spend 500 - 2000 in addition to the camera.

I have no brand allience sinced I have a Nikon 17-55F2.8DX coupled full time to a D70 used with 3 SB800 flash units for multiple flash and a Canon 1D Mark II with 15mm Fisheye, 35MM F1.4L, 70-200F2.8L IS with a 1.4TC for all my available light pics. AND a zilion other things like light stands, backgrounds......for what seems like a zillion $$$$$$$$.

I started with the D70 system I reccomended to you and got good trade in value for the first two lenses when I moved up. The fact that I still use it when I also have a Mark II tells you something about the D70. There is a diminishing rate of return for sure. For the 3-4X factor my current system costs over my first I do not get 3-4X better quality. I get more keepers. I have two bodies each with a lens mounted so I get to take some pics you would not since I do not have to change lenses as often. I get faster and more reliable focus and exposure especially in low light and therefore more keepers.....you get the point.

Hope this helps.

Andy Kreager - akreager@equistar.com

[Eric DeCastro]

get a rebel.

you will spend the same amount, and it will be new.

[Hellashot]

You should do a search if you can, i'm sure I saw this topic recently.

Personally I like new products, and IMHO the 300D is 95% as good as the 10D and takes just as good a picture. Of course the 300D probably won't be available in a couple of months, it's being replaced next month with it's sucessor. If you want a cheap DSLR get the 300D now, the rebates make it cheap. If you want a little more expensive but signficantly better camera get the 300D sucessor in a few weeks.

The Digital Rebel will still be available for some time even IF a Digital Rebel 2 comes out. The 10D is still sold after 6 or so months after the 20D came out. People will still buy the DIgital Rebel if a v2 comes out because of the price. The Drebel is at a very attractive price right now.

[tim]

Aye, the Rebel is a great camera for what they charge, but the Rebel2 will be better albeit more expensive. Depends on your priorities which you should get.

I want a 30D, but I have to wait a year for the boffins to design it :(

[Medic1]

anyone have any links to inside hints about the features/construction of the Rebel2?

[tim]

I think you'll find anyone with solid information is under an NDA and can't give any solid information as facts, but may be able to drop hints.

[Medic1]

well I personally would like to see a metal body....not that it really adds anything but durability, but even being as new to SLR photography as I am, I had an oppourtunity to snap off a couple shots with a 10D, and it just feels so much more quality when holding it compared to the rebel

[Lesmac]

This is a no brainer, a good, used 10D is by far the best buy, same sensor, loads more functions, and solidly built.
Les
http://lesmclean.photoblink.com/

[tim]

Don't forget cameras are rated for so many shutter actuations, and it's hard to be sure how many pics were taken with a used camera.

[MrChad]

If you are going digital SLR on a limited budget go with the Nikon D70, the 18-70 kit lens, the 70-300ED, one SB800 flash, an SC-29 off camera cord for your flash, and a simple L shaped flash bracket. You will have a system that blows away the digital rebel with a 35mm equivilent range of 28-450 and much better i-ttl capability/flexibility all for under $2000.

I started with the D70 system I reccomended to you and got good trade in value for the first two lenses when I moved up.


I'm glad to see someone else likes the Nikon gear and has actually given it a try. I got to use a D1h and some of the Nikon speedlights w/ the VR tele. I really liked the setup. I was actually kind of bummed at the Canon flashes vs. the Nikons once I got to use the SB80 I think, I really loved content and size of the flash vs. the 420/550's.

Don't ge me wrong I love Canon, but I think Nikon has some pretty good ideas too.

[CyberDyneSystems]

You should go for the 10D if only so that you won't suffer the recurring embarrasment of having D70 owners claiming that there camera is better.. :lol: :lol:

[xdjoynerx]

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