DRebel at ISO 1600

[Kinger]

Well I was in vegas two weeks ago and brought my all my gear with me. Well I just wanted to let you all know that you can still get good high ISO shots from the DRebel and you don't need to dump it for the 20D. I just followed the advice of those here and exposing to the right, and I achieved this.

http://home.comcast.net/~king247/images/CRW_1433.jpg

Also this was taken with the 75-300 non IS.

[poke]

hmmm... you have just inspired me to take another look at iso1600 on my 10D.

[lmelendez]

Well I was in vegas two weeks ago and brought my all my gear with me. Well I just wanted to let you all know that you can still get good high ISO shots from the DRebel and you don't need to dump it for the 20D. I just followed the advice of those here and exposing to the right, and I achieved this.

http://home.comcast.net/~king247/images/CRW_1433.jpg

Also this was taken with the 75-300 non IS.

Hey Kinger... I like that picture... I've tried to use the ISO-1600 in my rebel but they normally turn out very bad. Can you please tell me the settings you used? Did you have the camera hand-held? And... if it is not too much to ask... can you publish a bigger version of that picture??

Thanks!

[Kinger]

Here are the settings used for this shot as requested.
Tv Mode
1/400 sec
f/5.0
85mm

I am hesitant to post a larger image in order to make this more forum friendly for everyone, including those with dial up.

[Volatile]

Nice picture, dolphins in Vegas? Where are the showgirls???

I only run into noise issues if I'm truly in a low-light situation. But even then, Neat Image takes care of it. Changing ISO is a hugely useful tool.

[Citizensmith]

Dial up? Is that one of those archaic terms like floppy disc? :)

Cool photo, but I was wondering, how come you didn't drop down to ISO 800 or 400 as you had plenty of shutter speed, or was it more a spur of the moment photo and the settings where what ever the camera happened to be set to?

[Kinger]

Well I am cursed with very shakey hands, so I try to keep the shutter speed pretty fast to prevent blur. Also the dolphin pool I was shooting at was a decent size, so I was at times using the full length of the 75-300, and with it being a reletively slow lens, and the other side of the pool kinda shadey, ISO 1600 was needed to keep the shutter speed.

[Citizensmith]

Actually I should have been able to figure that out from the fact you said 85mm on the focal length, it had to be your 75-300.

Sounds like conditions weren't ideal so a good pic like that must have been a bonus.

[tim]

Like someones sig says, i'd rather have a noisy picture takes at ISO 3200 than not have the picture at all. Noise reduction does a great job, though it can't fix extreme noise perfectly, but it helps a lot. I use the free version of neat image, and will upgrade to the paid version when I feel the need.

[drisley]

Good work.
The DREbel at ISO1600 is very clean as long as you expose properly, or as you did, slightly overexpose.
Underexpose an image on any camera, 20D or 1DMKII, and you will get alot of noise when you try to compensate the exposure.
I think too many people out there underexpose to get a faster shutter speed, and then pay for it later in the form of noise.

[Cadenza]

Well I was in vegas two weeks ago and brought my all my gear with me. Well I just wanted to let you all know that you can still get good high ISO shots from the DRebel and you don't need to dump it for the 20D. I just followed the advice of those here and exposing to the right, and I achieved this.

http://home.comcast.net/~king247/images/CRW_1433.jpg

Also this was taken with the 75-300 non IS.

Nice picture! Is this your kid?

[Akreager]

I think that picture inspired us all. I Just bought a 1DMII...loving it so I have less of a problem these days. i started digital with a D70 - great camera but poor noise at high iso. I became the King of work around solutions. One thing I did was to set up for exposure bracketing. I used the meter, +-0 EV,+2/3 EV, and +4/3EV. I fired off three quick shots each time. Of course raw. I know....only 100/3=33 actual sets went on a one gig card. Cards have become cheap. Cheaper than buying a new camera every time one come out. With Mask Pro, Noise Ninja, Layers in PS I got some pics the D70 was just not designed to do. Of course now with the 1DMII I am going to do the same thing but also write JPEG fine along with RAW. I know.....memory, but a lot less work. The MII has less noise....alot less, it meters and focuses better, and renders some great JPEGS. Gives me more time to spend on the forum....Uh....I mean taking pics!

We should all write less and post more good pics like the one you just did!!!

[xdjoynerx]

posting a bigger picture is necessary... noise is impossible to see on small images or images that are not 100% crops. post up the original image, not edited, not touched, nothing, and post a link to dl it.

for example, here is a 1600 iso image, resized to 450 like yours, and this was taken in low light, of a plain, not very detailed subject. the kind of image you would expect TONS of noise from.

http://img180.exs.cx/img180/5972/16009vu.jpg

[drisley]

100% crops are not necessary.
It's the final output that counts. 100% is really only for pixel peepers.
Even the noisiest image will look quite clean at web size (which counts) and when printed, even at large sizes (which counts). I've printed 8x10 images that looked perfectly clean, but these same images look noisy at 100% in photoshop.
Output is all that counts. Canon makes this EXACT statement in their documents somewhere (I read about 1 month ago, and I can't find it again). They say to best represent 8x10 output when working with a 1dMKII image in photoshop, you should be viewing the image at about 25%, NOT 100%.
Nice image btw xdjoynerx

[Kinger]

Well since it has been requested multiple times, here is a link for the pic in a larger form. I believe you can actually download the original 36mb TIFF. Now this is a direct from RAW conversion in photoshop, no sharpening, no noise reduction (which wasn't done either on the originally posted photo).

http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/detailfs?userid={21075BFC-69AF-4622-9A55-D8EDB6F54F09}&ndx=5&slideshow=0&AlbumId={AC04CF35-6C76-4E96-8A78-12D03EA4E222}&GroupId=&screenheight=1024

[xdjoynerx]

nice, lol...

im downloading the 36mb tif right now... pretty good transfer speed 450kbps

[xdjoynerx]

something is special about that image, cause even at 100% its very clean... comparable to the average 400 maybe 800 i would say. you got lucky i think... id like to see those results reproduced time and time again.

and if you dont mind (ill take it down if you want), heres an edited version of it i filtered through neat image 4 pro+, and sharpened (lvl 6, fredmiranda intellisharpen).... VERY clean if i say so my self... people wouldnt be able to tell its not 100 iso if you didnt tell them.

http://img189.exs.cx/img189/1867/160000008fs.jpg

[Kinger]

Well if you liked that shot so much, go to page two of this site: http://home.comcast.net/~king247/

the rest of my dolphin shots from my trip are there. They are all ISO 1600.

and while you are at it, browse through the rest of them.