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perfectpixel
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 15:59
Hi All,
I am printing from photoshop CS to Epson 2200 using bordeless 4X6 paper and having problems with the output.
The image size is set to 4"X6" @420 dpi, landscape and looks perfecty sized on the screen in PS.
In printer setup, I pick 4X6 sheet paper, borderless paper.
Before the print starts I get a message saying "image is larger than paper's printable area. some clipping will occur". Epson print preview shows that I lose about 1/8 of inch from top, bottom and left side and about 1/4 inch from the right. The printout comes out like the preview, with those dimensions clipped (although the paper is printed to from edge to edge).
What am I missing?
An image with image size set to 4"X6" should print entirely on 4X6" borderless paper?!

Hellashot
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 16:17
Probably not. My Canon i560 prints borderless and in order to print borderless it extends the image to bigger than 4x6 in order for it to be borderless. So it clips a little bit off.
Anyone else out there agree?

perfectpixel
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 16:46
whatever happened to truth in advertising?! bummer. Hope I'm just doing something wrong here

kb244
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 17:19
Probably not. My Canon i560 prints borderless and in order to print borderless it extends the image to bigger than 4x6 in order for it to be borderless. So it clips a little bit off.
Anyone else out there agree?

Well with the canon ( I have an i860 ) , would appear best to print from the Canon Easy Photoprint. But the reason for bigger than 4x6 being borderless, is because 4x6 is not the same aspect ratio as most consumer cameras, where as the digital Rebel for example the aspect ratio matches the aspect ratio of a 4x6 output thus no croping/enlargement is required for borderless print.Or was it the other way around....

perfectpixel
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 20:23
... But the reason for bigger than 4x6 being borderless, is because 4x6 is not the same aspect ratio as most consumer cameras....

good point, but as I said, the image size is set to 4x6 to match the paper.

kb244
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 20:34
Have you tried to do Print with Preview on photoshop CS, I find alot of times, i can see a live view how its supposed to come out and sometimes for some strange reason I gota click the check box to fit for media , and it'll do like 94% , and it'll end up getting printed right, but if i go to just straight print doesnt always come out the way i want from PS CS.

Avalonthas
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 20:47
It enlarges it because if the paper is misaligned by even the smallest bit, even a millimeter, then the picture will not come out borderless, so it is enlarged a bit so if the paper feeds crooked or is off by a bit, you wont see any white space. So it is intentional and the only way u can get 4x6 borderless unless u have a tray that specifically fits and feeds 4x6's accurately into the printer (which dont really exist). I say it doesnt really exist because I notice that different brands of 4x6 paper have very small difference in size, and it is not consistant (on a very small scale) throughout the entire pack, so feeders have to compensate for that by adding an extra millimetre or so width to the feeder tray (also easier to slide the paper into the tray as it isnt as tight of a fit), so u will never get that perfect match between screen and printout. However I do agree that the amount they enlarge is quite allot but they choose that amount for there own reasons.

kb244
30th of January 2005 (Sun), 21:12
I notice the ammount of enlargement varies by printer. My i860 hardly any at all. (a milimeter or so) , but on an older printer like say my HP Photosmart, wasted ink alot as it bled alot past the edge.

L Pagan
3rd of February 2005 (Thu), 21:03
i notice the same problem , but this only happens when i use CS but when i use Elements 2.0 it prints fine borderless..in elements i dont get any messages like i get in CS.

Tobiko
3rd of February 2005 (Thu), 22:42
Do preview printing, in Photoshop or whatever program, click scale to fit media.