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maytay20
30th of August 2008 (Sat), 08:36
Ok when you are doing a shoot and you are about to take the photo what do you say to the person you photographing to get them to smile / feel comfortable with you. This has been bugging me for a while I feel I just don't make them feel comfortable enough to get nice relaxed happy photos. Also not every time but a lot of the time I say look this way and smile and I hate that but I can't think of anything else to say / do. What do you do??? And how do you differ from kids to adults. I love shooting kids and usually have no problem making them comfortable teenagers / adults are a whole another story though. :o Thanks, Mary

WilliamL
30th of August 2008 (Sat), 08:49
I think the key is TALKING to them... with senior shoots the more i talk to the kids the more comfortable i become and they become.. same with when i help shoot weddings the more we talk and joke with the BG the more relaxed they become...

fotojoem
30th of August 2008 (Sat), 11:33
I agree, Talking to them and I use humor! always playing around with them because when they are having fun your shoot is more productive. Give it a try, use stories that your subject can relate to. The only way to find out what that is, is by talking to them and asking questions. Have fun it works.

NathanJK
31st of August 2008 (Sun), 17:36
At my last engagement session the couple brought their dogs to shoot a few with them first...well the dogs only listen to a girl voice. So I spoke to the dogs in a girl voice. Later we were doing some pictures with just the couple and they said "you know, we'd smile more if you spoke in a girl voice". I got some good laughs and smiles in the series that followed that moment! Of course, I DID speak in a girl voice to them then! Really its all about talking to and getting to know your clients a bit, build a rapport and the rest will come generally.

Turntablist
31st of August 2008 (Sun), 17:41
say "ready freddy!?!?"

710 Studio
31st of August 2008 (Sun), 17:49
The thing I do is actually converse with them BEFORE starting a photoshoot. That way, we establish each other's personalities and feel comfortable with each other. I make sure to talk BETWEEN shots, as well. I establish a bit of a friendship with them. That way, smiles are natural and the session is just really relaxed. Makes for great shots! That said, I don't really have to say anything to get them to smile.

Flip side, sometimes, I have to tell the client NOT to smile on some shots, if I want the shot to have a more serious tone.

With kids, depending on the age, I say "smile!", "say purple underwear!", or for the really young ones (one and two year olds), I make duck quacking sounds... gets them every time!!! :)

cevad
2nd of September 2008 (Tue), 07:03
I'm not a kid and you're not even taking my picture but the "purple underwear" thing still made me laugh! :lol: I might steal that one

710 Studio
2nd of September 2008 (Tue), 07:17
I'm not a kid and you're not even taking my picture but the "purple underwear" thing still made me laugh! :lol: I might steal that one

I discovered that little gem with my own children. My thought at the time was, "Holy crud... it worked!!!"

OdiN1701
2nd of September 2008 (Tue), 14:13
I'm the opposite....I can't STAND shooting little kids as they are uncooperative. I won't do it. I am fine with older ones/adults though.

I won't do little kids unless their parents can have some semblance of control over them. I'm not going to strut around in a chicken outfit or make animal sounds to get them to smile, sorry.

710 Studio
2nd of September 2008 (Tue), 17:46
...I won't do little kids unless their parents can have some semblance of control over them...

These days? Good luck with that. I was shooting a 3-generation family shot. One of the families had a 15-month-old who was just learning how to walk on his own. We were shooting by a pier with deep water on one side. That was the side of the pier he was standing by. 3 more inches, he would have been overboard. The parents looked at the kid... then kept talking, expecting ME to babysit while they chatted. Incredible...

OdiN1701
2nd of September 2008 (Tue), 17:47
These days? Good luck with that.

Which is why I pretty much don't do small children.

I leave them to others who can have more patience with them than I.

GM_of_OLC
2nd of September 2008 (Tue), 20:50
3 more inches, he would have been overboard. The parents looked at the kid... then kept talking, expecting ME to babysit while they chatted. Incredible...
You should have let him fall, would have made a great couple of pictures.

NathanJK
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 03:43
Parents...control...children...whats that? Oh wait, I think I saw that one time, but it was pretty fleeting!

zapfdingbat
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 05:14
This stuff works for older kids:

Pee pee
doo doo
Think about your girlfriend
Think about your friend's girlfriend
Sandwich Bags
frazzle dazzle
woolyboogers
WHOOP WHOOP
HONK HONK
Chubby girls (or pretty much anything regarding the opposite sex)
MONEY


Hey I have to keep my job entertaining somehow

SKnight
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 05:40
Talking candidly to them and tell corny embarassingly stupid jokes. An honest smile is always better than a forced one.

tim
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 06:00
With guys "smile you bastard(s)!" works pretty well, if said in a joking way. Not kidding! Usually with groups I kid around, tell them I rarely fall off my ladder (wedding groups), and just be friendly. Talk to people. Don't rush things. Not sure how I do it but people in my photos are usually smiling.

Gamb
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 06:59
Well.. as a guy who's about to have engagement pictures made and then wedding pictures to come it's one thing I talked to our photographer about when my fiance and and I met with her. I'm not a smiler when it comes to having my picture made but I do smile when in my "natural element". So in other words, pictures of me when I don't know a camera is around are normally good. Pictures when someone says "cheese" and I look like an idiot (well, moreso than normal). I find this thread interesting

plattepro
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 09:36
What about in nature photography?

OdiN1701
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 10:18
What about in nature photography?

Simple, 12 step process.

1 - Drive to forest.

2 - Camp out and wait for wildlife (deer, elk, etc.).

3 - See wildlife, take pictures and go home.

4 - Realize pictures are horrible.

5 - Have some alcohol.

6 - Return to forest tomorrow, pack gun.

7 - Shoot elk.

8 - Take elk to taxidermist and have it stuffed.

9 - Load elk back into truck.

10 - Drive back to forest.

11 - Pose elk in amazingly perfect setting.

12 - Take 500 pictures, one will be good.

Done.

plattepro
4th of September 2008 (Thu), 15:46
Simple, 12 step process.

1 - Drive to forest.

2 - Camp out and wait for wildlife (deer, elk, etc.).

3 - See wildlife, take pictures and go home.

4 - Realize pictures are horrible.

5 - Have some alcohol.

6 - Return to forest tomorrow, pack gun.

7 - Shoot elk.

8 - Take elk to taxidermist and have it stuffed.

9 - Load elk back into truck.

10 - Drive back to forest.

11 - Pose elk in amazingly perfect setting.

12 - Take 500 pictures, one will be good.

Done.

So funny - I didn't expect an answer! :D

slomaroz
5th of September 2008 (Fri), 00:04
Simple, 12 step process.

1 - Drive to forest.

2 - Camp out and wait for wildlife (deer, elk, etc.).

3 - See wildlife, take pictures and go home.

4 - Realize pictures are horrible.

5 - Have some alcohol.

6 - Return to forest tomorrow, pack gun.

7 - Shoot elk.

8 - Take elk to taxidermist and have it stuffed.

9 - Load elk back into truck.

10 - Drive back to forest.

11 - Pose elk in amazingly perfect setting.

12 - Take 500 pictures, one will be good.

Done.


Bahahah!!! Classic!

NathanJK
5th of September 2008 (Fri), 01:43
With guys "smile you bastard(s)!"

I've always wanted to joke in that fashion but my fear of not looking professional has won out to date. I have positively HORRIBLE language when I let it all hang out in the proper company, but when I'm working I try not to curse at all. I might have slipped up at some point but I can't remember when, I just turn on the "your at church with your family" language filter! I think I called a security guard an ass to a client once after they already had said it. You know in the "that guy was such an *******", "yeah...he was an ass alright" sense. Perhaps I could stand to loosen up a bit in some select situations in the future ;)

Popper
5th of September 2008 (Fri), 04:19
If I'm having a hard time getting a kid to smile I will tell them that they can make one "silly face" but then I want nice smile. Most of the time those "silly face" pictures turn out to great shots that the parents love. I started that with my own kids and it's worked great.

tim
5th of September 2008 (Fri), 06:06
I've always wanted to joke in that fashion but my fear of not looking professional has won out to date. I have positively HORRIBLE language when I let it all hang out in the proper company, but when I'm working I try not to curse at all. I might have slipped up at some point but I can't remember when, I just turn on the "your at church with your family" language filter! I think I called a security guard an ass to a client once after they already had said it. You know in the "that guy was such an *******", "yeah...he was an ass alright" sense. Perhaps I could stand to loosen up a bit in some select situations in the future ;)

I'm not even going to tell you a line I used once, not on a public forum! I got a few zingers from DWF that I used at a wedding when taking photos of three guys that went to boarding school together.