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toddb
31st of January 2005 (Mon), 11:34
Would it really be that hard to put the iso setting in the eye display. It is an important part of the exposure triangle. I know eventually I'll train myself, but after 17,000 shots with my 10D I seem to still forget every once in a while. I'll want to shoot something without flash so I dial up to iso 800....then a few minutes later I'll pop the flash and it looks great on the back display, but when I get home it is horribly noisy (unneeded since I used the flash). I always pay attention to the eye display because it's right there. I think the ISO read out is too berried. What do you think?

PacAce
31st of January 2005 (Mon), 11:40
Have you considered upgrading to the 1DmkII? It'll give you an ISO display in the viewfinder. But, like everything else in life, nothting's for free. With the ISO display in the viewfinder, you lose your "frame" counter. :confused:

cmM
31st of January 2005 (Mon), 12:15
i wouldn't mind trading the frame counter for an ISO display. I never look at the frame counter anyway...

I forget it too sometimes... At one point I was shooting at ISO-400 for like a month. LOL. Yea I noticed each time I saw the pics on the computer but by the time I had to shoot again I would forget again....

Citizensmith
31st of January 2005 (Mon), 12:19
I'd love to have the ISO info displayed, not sure at the cost of the frame count though. To many times I've looked at a photo taken in the sun, and realized that last night when I was taking pictures I had set it to.......

OK, its a user error thing and no fault of the camera, but life could be made easier. How about frame count is displayed until you half press and then it gets replaced by current ISO for the same time speed/appeture are displayed?

CyberDyneSystems
31st of January 2005 (Mon), 17:21
I have the ISO displyed in viewfinder on my MkII,. it does help prevent those pesky "ISO Accidents" ,.

....but on the other hand;
1: With the "1" series adjusting the ISO "on the fly" with your face in the veiwfinder is next to impossible,. nearly defeating the advantage.

2: When you do go to adjust the ISO, (with all three required hands) ...the ISO number is "blacked out" while you are adjusting,. again defeating the purpose. :~

On my 10D I did a "poor man's" ISO display to help avoid ISO related accidents. I put a big sticker on the top of the flash fip up panel reading simply "ISO" in large caps!

I stopped forgetting to check ISO... ;)

cmM
31st of January 2005 (Mon), 18:03
LOL
I gotta try that, CDS.... maybe with the other settings, too.... I think I need a bigger body :-P

toddb
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 11:15
I didn't realize the MarkII had this, interesting. I guess these cameras are still sort of designed around film. I'd think a huge advantage of shooting digital is being able to adjust ISO and perfect your exposure. To me ISO is a very important component of this exposure triangle. It would be cool if Cannon could figure out how to add ISO adjustment as easy as the shutter speed and aperture.

Think of this idea, what if a custom action could be set to instead of the roller by your index finger adjusting shutter and aperture it would compensate with ISO and have one of the other two fix. That seems like it wouldn't be too hard to do.

Or, enable the back thumb dial to adjust ISO instead setting under or over exposure. I think this would be really worth while to have.

cmM
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 11:19
...heck, I'd settle for the ISO being displayed even on the LCD panel (without pressing anything that is)

PacAce
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 14:47
...heck, I'd settle for the ISO being displayed even on the LCD panel (without pressing anything that is)
It is, if you have the LCD in Info mode and you're reviewing the image.

gmen
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 14:53
...heck, I'd settle for the ISO being displayed even on the LCD panel (without pressing anything that is)

CF-8 lets you tweak these settings. On my MKII, I have the ISO showing on the top LCD panel.

FlyingPete
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 14:56
After a while when you really get to 'know' your gear, you can tell roughly what the ISO is set at just from the exposure settings, I am starting to get there now, and this level of familiarisation has saved me from some high and low ISO incidents.

Learn to watch for very high shutter speeds at small apertures on sunny days, and low shutter speeds with large apertures in darker conditions, these are usually a good give away, after some time it becomes automatic, and you notice straight away, i.e, picking up my camera from a night shoot, my nifty fifty still attached look in the view finder and notice f/1.8 and a blinking 1/8000 shutter speed, hello, camera is still set to ISO1600 :cool:

toddb
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 15:26
I'm looking for more of this example. Say your outside, you take some still shots of someone standing there and you want to get a noise free as possible so I have it on ISO 100. Then maybe someone I know is running past me (say I'm at a track meet on a cloudy day) and I realize I'm not going to get fast enough shutter speed....so I have to press the iso button on top, look at the top display, roll up the iso...recopose, see that I still don't have quite high enough iso setting, repeat the process and then go back and recompose...well, I missed the shot already. So I go back to shooting the people standing still...I have to roll the iso back down because I want to get as noise free as possible. See what I mean? I would love to see a setup that allows this. I bet they could do this in a firmware release. Is this something I can ask Cannon directly for. Sure would make another cut for going digital with this kind of flexibility at your finger tips.

Actually, here is a more common need for me now. I bounce my flash with a defuse on my 550EX. It works great, but I like to shoot manual because I want frame rate at 1/60 or better and I want my aperture at F8 because I get the best/sharpest images with my lens. I use my iso to compensate where the flash isn't enough power. So say I am in close (3ft) I run ISO 100, little farther at say 5-6ft I run about ISO 200, and then sometimes go to iso 400 when I'm about say 10ft. As my daughter is running around, this can be kind of hard to change the iso because it's kind of barred.

cmM
1st of February 2005 (Tue), 16:45
It is, if you have the LCD in Info mode and you're reviewing the image.

Yea, I know on the screen, but I meant on the top LCD panel. It doesn't show there unless you hit the ISO button.

Oh well, no biggie.... just have to be more carefull.